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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 20:03:18 GMT -8
The hot stove is what the deadline is referred to in baseball circles. Actually, it's not. Hot stove league is a reference to the off-season where fans sat around hot stoves discussing baseball. It goes back to the 19th century. Cool. The Giants just traded Jorge Soler to the Braves and the Braves are taking on the entirety of his contract. Strange goings on.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 29, 2024 20:06:00 GMT -8
Actually, it's not. Hot stove league is a reference to the off-season where fans sat around hot stoves discussing baseball. It goes back to the 19th century. Cool. The Giants just traded Jorge Soler to the Braves and the Braves are taking on the entirety of his contract. Strange goings on. That is strange. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire this year. Has some pop.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 20:13:33 GMT -8
Cool. The Giants just traded Jorge Soler to the Braves and the Braves are taking on the entirety of his contract. Strange goings on. That is strange. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire this year. Has some pop. He has a 165 wRC+ over the last month and 116 for the season. They are salary dumping.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 29, 2024 20:24:43 GMT -8
That is strange. He hasn't exactly set the world on fire this year. Has some pop. He has a 165 wRC+ over the last month and 116 for the season. They are salary dumping. Sure, it's what have you done for me lately. They are salary dumping and the Braves are taking it on.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 29, 2024 20:24:48 GMT -8
These prices are insane. Going to regret not selling. What's the ask for Flaherty, Crochet? I've read that Crochet wants a contract extension to pitch in the post-season. I thought, maybe, he would be happy just getting away from the dumpster fire that is the White Sox. Interesting demands from a guy who is under club control through 2026, and who hasn't pitched very many innings.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 29, 2024 21:05:02 GMT -8
What's the ask for Flaherty, Crochet? I've read that Crochet wants a contract extension to pitch in the post-season. I thought, maybe, he would be happy just getting away from the dumpster fire that are the White Sox. Interesting demands from a guy who is under club control through 2026, and who hasn't pitched very many innings. Really makes you wonder about the condition of his arm, to be honest. I think that he thinks that this will force the White Sox to trade him, but I think actually it will kill his market. Bizarre trade demand considering he's under contract for two more years. Also makes you wonder about the legality of such a demand - if he doesn't get an extension, and refuses to pitch in the postseason, is that a breach of contract?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 21:17:34 GMT -8
I've read that Crochet wants a contract extension to pitch in the post-season. I thought, maybe, he would be happy just getting away from the dumpster fire that are the White Sox. Interesting demands from a guy who is under club control through 2026, and who hasn't pitched very many innings. Really makes you wonder about the condition of his arm, to be honest. I think that he thinks that this will force the White Sox to trade him, but I think actually it will kill his market. Bizarre trade demand considering he's under contract for two more years. Also makes you wonder about the legality of such a demand - if he doesn't get an extension, and refuses to pitch in the postseason, is that a breach of contract? No.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 9:57:24 GMT -8
Marlins are starting to deal pieces. SP Trevor Rodgers to the Orioles is close.
Padres are looking at RP's Anthony Bender and Huascar Brazoban. Bender has 3.5 years of team control. Brazoban is a rental.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 9:59:01 GMT -8
Prices are out of control...and this will likely happen yearly with expanded playoffs watering down the value of individual wins.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 10:08:25 GMT -8
Got to wonder if the Padres are considering picking up one to two more relievers with options and going with bullpen days instead of a fifth starter.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 10:12:39 GMT -8
Got to wonder if the Padres are considering picking up one to two more relievers with options and going with bullpen days instead of a fifth starter. No, they want a starter. It's not about a fifth starter.
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Post by junior on Jul 30, 2024 10:14:18 GMT -8
Got to wonder if the Padres are considering picking up one to two more relievers with options and going with bullpen days instead of a fifth starter. Pretty much doing that already with Mazur, et al. That's why I think it could be a good plan to ramp up with another BP arm. Maybe King goes into the same BP game program - it'd save some innings for later this season and still keep him fresh. Just don't know what the Padres are up to with him as he passes a personal milestone for innings pitched in a season. He can "feel" fine, but that doesn't mean the added stress on his arm isn't somehow going to catch up with him health wise.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 10:20:46 GMT -8
Got to wonder if the Padres are considering picking up one to two more relievers with options and going with bullpen days instead of a fifth starter. No, they want a starter. It's not about a fifth starter. Not sure how they are going to get one without giving up de Vries. That's why it made sense to me to deal Kim for prospects - also gives you salary relief, letting you get a Blake Snell or similar player with a high salary.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 10:26:52 GMT -8
No, they want a starter. It's not about a fifth starter. Not sure how they are going to get one without giving up de Vries. That's why it made sense to me to deal Kim for prospects - also gives you salary relief, letting you get a Blake Snell or similar player with a high salary. Kim was more valuable in San Diego than anywhere else. Salary relief? He's owed less than $3M.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 10:28:25 GMT -8
Maybe you trade Solano for prospects, then get a starter that doesn't have a high salary?
Is Snelling + Pauley enough to get a starter in this market? Trading Mazur seems somewhat counter productive, although maybe you do it if you're getting an ace back.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 10:33:41 GMT -8
Maybe you trade Solano for prospects, then get a starter that doesn't have a high salary? Is Snelling + Pauley enough to get a starter in this market? Trading Mazur seems somewhat counter productive, although maybe you do it if you're getting an ace back. Trading guys making nothing doesn't help you, either. (Outside of a reliever in this batshit market.) They needed to investigate moving Suarez, Arraez, etc. Ship has sailed.
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Post by azson on Jul 30, 2024 11:10:38 GMT -8
Maybe you trade Solano for prospects, then get a starter that doesn't have a high salary? Is Snelling + Pauley enough to get a starter in this market? Trading Mazur seems somewhat counter productive, although maybe you do it if you're getting an ace back. Trading guys making nothing doesn't help you, either. (Outside of a reliever in this batshit market.) They needed to investigate moving Suarez, Arraez, etc. Ship has sailed. What would have been the best case scenario of that?
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 30, 2024 11:27:30 GMT -8
Trading guys making nothing doesn't help you, either. (Outside of a reliever in this batshit market.) They needed to investigate moving Suarez, Arraez, etc. Ship has sailed. What would have been the best case scenario of that? Yeah exactly. I'm a proponent of moving an infielder for a pitcher, not selling at the deadline.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 11:29:58 GMT -8
Trading guys making nothing doesn't help you, either. (Outside of a reliever in this batshit market.) They needed to investigate moving Suarez, Arraez, etc. Ship has sailed. What would have been the best case scenario of that? Getting back a sizable haul that helps fortify your farm system and gives you increased flexibility to make future moves in the face of diminishing payroll.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 30, 2024 11:30:25 GMT -8
What would have been the best case scenario of that? Yeah exactly. I'm a proponent of moving an infielder for a pitcher, not selling at the deadline. Then you're ignoring what the market is telling you. And I'm telling you now: 2025 is going to be tough.
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