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Post by sdsuball on Jul 28, 2024 20:40:55 GMT -8
I don't disagree, I'm just saying that it may not be as bad as it looks on the surface. No, it's pretty bad. The only thing that makes it not sting as much is the industry consensus on Lesko has dipped considerably this season. He may not be able to throw enough strikes to stick. Still, with limited resources, trading for a reliever isn't the best course of action, especially with the extreme tilt towards the sellers right now. I called it my least favorite trade of the Preller era, which I'm not sure is entirely true, but it's definitely up there. Now, you're somewhat forced to gamble on a starter with even less assets available. The farm is woefully thin right now. I wouldn't mind a different kind of gamble here. Trade for a legit AAA SP prospect who is blocked to the majors by a team with a good rotation. Give them prospects in return. I'd rather do that and take a chance on a guy, and have someone controllable, rather then pay a couple of prospects for a back end guy that doesn't move the needle much. The legit AAA prospect is probably just as good as the back end guy, but with more long term upside.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 28, 2024 20:51:08 GMT -8
Seems like everyone needs starting pitching though. Maybe the Rays have a SP prospect or two stashed in AAA? They would want Snelling + more prospects.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 28, 2024 20:54:06 GMT -8
No, it's pretty bad. The only thing that makes it not sting as much is the industry consensus on Lesko has dipped considerably this season. He may not be able to throw enough strikes to stick. Still, with limited resources, trading for a reliever isn't the best course of action, especially with the extreme tilt towards the sellers right now. I called it my least favorite trade of the Preller era, which I'm not sure is entirely true, but it's definitely up there. Now, you're somewhat forced to gamble on a starter with even less assets available. The farm is woefully thin right now. I wouldn't mind a different kind of gamble here. Trade for a legit AAA SP prospect who is blocked to the majors by a team with a good rotation. Give them prospects in return. I'd rather do that and take a chance on a guy, and have someone controllable, rather then pay a couple of prospects for a back end guy that doesn't move the needle much. The legit AAA prospect is probably just as good as the back end guy, but with more long term upside. Not happening. Teams have no incentive to do that unless the player is injured, like a Tiedemann. Plus, you have 40-man roster considerations and other dominoes.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 28, 2024 21:36:37 GMT -8
Kim for Snellzilla? Coming right up… 15 K's yesterday. Giants wouldn't want Kim if they were selling by trading Snell. Mostly likely it would be a three team trade, and yes in such a scenario trading away Kim's salary would help us not go over the CBT. The bigger question is, who is interested in Kim that has prospects that the Giants really want - that ALSO isn't interested in trading those prospects to the Giants straight up for Snell? Everyone needs SP right now, it feels like. So that really narrows down the number of third team partners that could facilitate such a trade. Or it's a situation where we trade Kim for prospects, then create a prospect package for the Giants out of our farm system and the prospects that we get in the Kim trade.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 10:19:48 GMT -8
The stove is going ballistic today.
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Post by azson on Jul 29, 2024 11:14:51 GMT -8
The stove is going ballistic today. ?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 11:15:36 GMT -8
The stove is going ballistic today. ? Trades.
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Post by azson on Jul 29, 2024 11:17:38 GMT -8
I'm not getting the stove/ballistic reference.
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Post by aardvark on Jul 29, 2024 11:29:54 GMT -8
Pham goes to the Cardinals--the team that Pham claimed did him wrong early in his career.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 11:44:43 GMT -8
I'm not getting the stove/ballistic reference. The hot stove is what the deadline is referred to in baseball circles.
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Post by junior on Jul 29, 2024 12:14:59 GMT -8
I'm not getting the stove/ballistic reference. The hot stove is what the deadline is referred to in baseball circles. These days, with instant access to the roomer mill, the hot stove is h3t up all year long. But yes, it's about to blow up today.
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Post by TPAztec on Jul 29, 2024 12:48:25 GMT -8
I've heard rumblings of Pauley being moved.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 16:07:07 GMT -8
These prices are insane. Going to regret not selling.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 29, 2024 16:18:39 GMT -8
These prices are insane. Going to regret not selling. How much interest is there in Kim? I would be interested in that type of trade too (where we trade Kim and get prospects back to trade for a starter)...
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 16:26:20 GMT -8
These prices are insane. Going to regret not selling. How much interest is there in Kim? I would be interested in that type of trade too (where we trade Kim and get prospects back to trade for a starter)... Don't believe he's being shopped.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 17:42:16 GMT -8
The Jays just got three top 20 system prospects from Houston (albeit a bad farm) for a rental pitcher in Kikuchi with an ERA near 5.00.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 29, 2024 18:16:12 GMT -8
The Jays just got three top 20 system prospects from Houston (albeit a bad farm) for a rental pitcher in Kikuchi with an ERA near 5.00. Toronto's out of it, but good for them. They've got to make some changes.
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Post by sdsuball on Jul 29, 2024 19:27:23 GMT -8
These prices are insane. Going to regret not selling. What's the ask for Flaherty, Crochet?
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 29, 2024 19:36:41 GMT -8
These prices are insane. Going to regret not selling. What's the ask for Flaherty, Crochet? A lot. Way too much.
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Post by docmm on Jul 29, 2024 19:51:46 GMT -8
I'm not getting the stove/ballistic reference. The hot stove is what the deadline is referred to in baseball circles. Actually, it's not. Hot stove league is a reference to the off-season where fans sat around hot stoves discussing baseball. It goes back to the 19th century.
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