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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2023 15:32:16 GMT -8
You mean like this person? I’m not sure what that little excerpt demonstrates, other than your lack of focus. Under Trump, we had peace. Under Biden we have war, chaos and invigorated terrorists. Biden’s energy policies have made Iran (and its petroleum) great again. Biden’s administration was worried about the sky falling, and completely ignored the legitimate terrorist threats we are now looking at. They can’t even say the words “Iran is complicit and responsible?” Imagine during WW II FDR not calling out Hitler for the fall of France and slaughtering of Jews? It illustrates what an idiotic, bumbling fool in cognitive decline looks like. Combine that with the literal hundreds of other sound bytes of his limited vocabulary, inhumane statements and disgusting gaffes and even you should be able to grasp it. Should we send a smoke signal to a neighbor or something for you to get help? You seriously cannot believe what you type, right? Disengage from Mark Levin for a second. Peace? You call selling out the country to foreign enemies....peace? Stunning levels of denial. Do you need a map and a compass? You are lost. Iran is not working in isolation. They are backed by Russia, as you have been shown. It's pretty apparent where that came from, and no it didn't happen in isolation either. Leaked intelligence equals means and opportunity. You're comparing this to World War ÍI? Lord help us.
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 16:52:53 GMT -8
Bottom line is that there is no justifying what Hamas did. It was not going to be productive and it was to the detriment of their own people. They're radicals who don't give a crap about repercussions to their own people. Hamas cut the heads off of BABIES!!! Raped women in this invasion. Amongst MANY other atrocities. Israel is currently blowing the heads off babies with all the indiscriminate bombing of populated areas...innocent mothers, fathers, sister, brothers, cousins and grandmas are being destroyed...the Israeli-friendly media doesn't want that narrative out...Israel's final solution to the Palestinian problem...that it created back in 1948...is to starve out innocents in the Israeli-run Gaza concentration camp...collective punishment that deprives a whole population...the necessary food, water and medicine it needs...pretty soon videos of Palestinians with emaciated bodies will be on our 75-inch tvs...and Israel and its supporters will justify the war crimes just as the Germans did. It is easy to overlook the history of the region...who did what to whom back before history was written...results in what is happening today...I actually took an undergrad class on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict...the professor told us we know more about the issue than 75 percent of those who serve in congress...what most know about it is what they see on television...Israeli-friendly television networks and its representatives pose, sketch, colorize and frame the portrait as Israel being the victims in the public's mind...by and large the portrait television paints of Palestinians is one of evil...it demonizes them...it does so because when US-made F-35s war-crimes them...it makes the atrocity legitimate...leading one to conclude Palestinians are totally at fault and deserving of the hardships/lifestyle they experience...just like the Germans did...Israel is NOT the victim in all this...they've done plenty to deserve retaliatory strikes...and the word terrorism has no meaning in this conflict backed by US tax dollars. History of Israel-Palestine Conflictwww.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGcBy the way...Israel created Hamas...it did so to topple Arafat...it created the monster: Blowback: How Israel Helped Create Hamaswww.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0ever spent any time in those cultures? I'm sure they would treat their women better if the Jews bailed out of the Middle East.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 17:24:16 GMT -8
Bottom line is that there is no justifying what Hamas did. It was not going to be productive and it was to the detriment of their own people. They're radicals who don't give a crap about repercussions to their own people. Hamas cut the heads off of BABIES!!! Raped women in this invasion. Amongst MANY other atrocities. Israel is currently blowing the heads off babies with all the indiscriminate bombing of populated areas...innocent mothers, fathers, sister, brothers, cousins and grandmas are being destroyed...the Israeli-friendly media doesn't want that narrative out...Israel's final solution to the Palestinian problem...that it created back in 1948...is to starve out innocents in the Israeli-run Gaza concentration camp...collective punishment that deprives a whole population...the necessary food, water and medicine it needs...pretty soon videos of Palestinians with emaciated bodies will be on our 75-inch tvs...and Israel and its supporters will justify the war crimes just as the Germans did. It is easy to overlook the history of the region...who did what to whom back before history was written...results in what is happening today...I actually took an undergrad class on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict...the professor told us we know more about the issue than 75 percent of those who serve in congress...what most know about it is what they see on television...Israeli-friendly television networks and its representatives pose, sketch, colorize and frame the portrait as Israel being the victims in the public's mind...by and large the portrait television paints of Palestinians is one of evil...it demonizes them...it does so because when US-made F-35s war-crimes them...it makes the atrocity legitimate...leading one to conclude Palestinians are totally at fault and deserving of the hardships/lifestyle they experience...just like the Germans did...Israel is NOT the victim in all this...they've done plenty to deserve retaliatory strikes...and the word terrorism has no meaning in this conflict backed by US tax dollars. History of Israel-Palestine Conflictwww.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGcBy the way...Israel created Hamas...it did so to topple Arafat...it created the monster: Blowback: How Israel Helped Create Hamaswww.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas.
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 18:09:53 GMT -8
Israel is currently blowing the heads off babies with all the indiscriminate bombing of populated areas...innocent mothers, fathers, sister, brothers, cousins and grandmas are being destroyed...the Israeli-friendly media doesn't want that narrative out...Israel's final solution to the Palestinian problem...that it created back in 1948...is to starve out innocents in the Israeli-run Gaza concentration camp...collective punishment that deprives a whole population...the necessary food, water and medicine it needs...pretty soon videos of Palestinians with emaciated bodies will be on our 75-inch tvs...and Israel and its supporters will justify the war crimes just as the Germans did. It is easy to overlook the history of the region...who did what to whom back before history was written...results in what is happening today...I actually took an undergrad class on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict...the professor told us we know more about the issue than 75 percent of those who serve in congress...what most know about it is what they see on television...Israeli-friendly television networks and its representatives pose, sketch, colorize and frame the portrait as Israel being the victims in the public's mind...by and large the portrait television paints of Palestinians is one of evil...it demonizes them...it does so because when US-made F-35s war-crimes them...it makes the atrocity legitimate...leading one to conclude Palestinians are totally at fault and deserving of the hardships/lifestyle they experience...just like the Germans did...Israel is NOT the victim in all this...they've done plenty to deserve retaliatory strikes...and the word terrorism has no meaning in this conflict backed by US tax dollars. History of Israel-Palestine Conflictwww.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGcBy the way...Israel created Hamas...it did so to topple Arafat...it created the monster: Blowback: How Israel Helped Create Hamaswww.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas. I was watching the 1972 Olympics in real time...no sympathy from me for Hamas..et al... and that was in Munich! they are into big statements...ok..people don't forget big statements.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 18:20:36 GMT -8
Israel is currently blowing the heads off babies with all the indiscriminate bombing of populated areas...innocent mothers, fathers, sister, brothers, cousins and grandmas are being destroyed...the Israeli-friendly media doesn't want that narrative out...Israel's final solution to the Palestinian problem...that it created back in 1948...is to starve out innocents in the Israeli-run Gaza concentration camp...collective punishment that deprives a whole population...the necessary food, water and medicine it needs...pretty soon videos of Palestinians with emaciated bodies will be on our 75-inch tvs...and Israel and its supporters will justify the war crimes just as the Germans did. It is easy to overlook the history of the region...who did what to whom back before history was written...results in what is happening today...I actually took an undergrad class on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict...the professor told us we know more about the issue than 75 percent of those who serve in congress...what most know about it is what they see on television...Israeli-friendly television networks and its representatives pose, sketch, colorize and frame the portrait as Israel being the victims in the public's mind...by and large the portrait television paints of Palestinians is one of evil...it demonizes them...it does so because when US-made F-35s war-crimes them...it makes the atrocity legitimate...leading one to conclude Palestinians are totally at fault and deserving of the hardships/lifestyle they experience...just like the Germans did...Israel is NOT the victim in all this...they've done plenty to deserve retaliatory strikes...and the word terrorism has no meaning in this conflict backed by US tax dollars. History of Israel-Palestine Conflictwww.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGcBy the way...Israel created Hamas...it did so to topple Arafat...it created the monster: Blowback: How Israel Helped Create Hamaswww.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas. Israel was created in 1948...so much for the rest of your ignorance....
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 18:32:51 GMT -8
Israel is currently blowing the heads off babies with all the indiscriminate bombing of populated areas...innocent mothers, fathers, sister, brothers, cousins and grandmas are being destroyed...the Israeli-friendly media doesn't want that narrative out...Israel's final solution to the Palestinian problem...that it created back in 1948...is to starve out innocents in the Israeli-run Gaza concentration camp...collective punishment that deprives a whole population...the necessary food, water and medicine it needs...pretty soon videos of Palestinians with emaciated bodies will be on our 75-inch tvs...and Israel and its supporters will justify the war crimes just as the Germans did. It is easy to overlook the history of the region...who did what to whom back before history was written...results in what is happening today...I actually took an undergrad class on the Palestinian/Israeli conflict...the professor told us we know more about the issue than 75 percent of those who serve in congress...what most know about it is what they see on television...Israeli-friendly television networks and its representatives pose, sketch, colorize and frame the portrait as Israel being the victims in the public's mind...by and large the portrait television paints of Palestinians is one of evil...it demonizes them...it does so because when US-made F-35s war-crimes them...it makes the atrocity legitimate...leading one to conclude Palestinians are totally at fault and deserving of the hardships/lifestyle they experience...just like the Germans did...Israel is NOT the victim in all this...they've done plenty to deserve retaliatory strikes...and the word terrorism has no meaning in this conflict backed by US tax dollars. History of Israel-Palestine Conflictwww.youtube.com/watch?v=m19F4IHTVGcBy the way...Israel created Hamas...it did so to topple Arafat...it created the monster: Blowback: How Israel Helped Create Hamaswww.youtube.com/watch?v=o7grSsuFSS0One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas. Hamas has done nothing more than the Israel has done: Stern Gang: Zionist Extremist Organization"Stern Gang, also called Stern Group or Lehi, formally Loḥamei Ḥerut Yisraʾel (Hebrew: “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), Zionist extremist organization in Palestine, founded in 1940 by Avraham Stern (1907–42) after a split in the right-wing underground movement Irgun Zvai Leumi." " The group’s terrorist activities extended beyond Palestine: two members assassinated Lord Moyne, British minister of state in the Middle East, at Cairo (November 1944). Later t he Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces." www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-GangJews who wanted to steal land...from people who have papers/deeds/rights to it...killed heads of country...bomb, killed innocent Arabs to create the state of Israel...they were extremist murdering terrorist...one of the founding members of the Jewish terrorist group...Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister of Israel....Hamas is doing the same thing Jews did to establish a state/country of their own...Fighters for the Freedom of Palestine...
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 18:36:40 GMT -8
One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas. Israel was created in 1948...so much for the rest of your ignorance.... Ignirance? It was a question, bud. I'll have to reevaluate the video to see if I missed something.
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 18:42:59 GMT -8
One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas. Hamas has done nothing more than the Israel has done: Stern Gang: Zionist Extremist Organization"Stern Gang, also called Stern Group or Lehi, formally Loḥamei Ḥerut Yisraʾel (Hebrew: “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), Zionist extremist organization in Palestine, founded in 1940 by Avraham Stern (1907–42) after a split in the right-wing underground movement Irgun Zvai Leumi." " The group’s terrorist activities extended beyond Palestine: two members assassinated Lord Moyne, British minister of state in the Middle East, at Cairo (November 1944). Later t he Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces." www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-GangJews who wanted to steal land...from people who have papers/deeds/rights to it...killed heads of country...bomb, killed innocent Arabs to create the state of Israel...they were extremist murdering terrorist...one of the members of the Jewish terrorist group...Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister....Hamas is doing the same thing Jews did to establish a state/country of their own...Fighters for the Freedom of Palestine... So, Nasty...what's the strategy here with Hamas? They know what the response is going to be. Get Isreal to look bad by destroying infrastructure and innocents as collateral damage? This is a serious question. Question 2, how does this help the Palestinian people?
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 18:51:17 GMT -8
One of the things I got out of that is that Israel was there first, correct? Hamas is an extremist, terrorist group. They could care less about their own people. They absolutely knew that it would detrimental to go in and start a war, but they didn't care, because of the type of organization they are. You seem to have a lot of excuses for Hamas. Have you read the 1988 Covenant that Hamas wrote towards the Jewish people and Nation? I'm sure you did since you said you studied it. What do you think of that? It's brutal. Let me get this straight. You're ok with what Hamas did? You support Hamas? I've heard that at least 58 percent in Gaza is Pro extremist, terrorist organization, Hamas. Hamas has done nothing more than the Israel has done: Stern Gang: Zionist Extremist Organization"Stern Gang, also called Stern Group or Lehi, formally Loḥamei Ḥerut Yisraʾel (Hebrew: “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), Zionist extremist organization in Palestine, founded in 1940 by Avraham Stern (1907–42) after a split in the right-wing underground movement Irgun Zvai Leumi." " The group’s terrorist activities extended beyond Palestine: two members assassinated Lord Moyne, British minister of state in the Middle East, at Cairo (November 1944). Later t he Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces." www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-GangJews who wanted to steal land...from people who have papers/deeds/rights to it...killed heads of country...bomb, killed innocent Arabs to create the state of Israel...they were extremist murdering terrorist...one of the founding members of the Jewish terrorist group...Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister of Israel....Hamas is doing the same thing Jews did to establish a state/country of their own...Fighters for the Freedom of Palestine... Sounds like you belong to that FFFP. Have at it. You dodged these questions before. Let's see if you'll answer them this time. Are you Pro Hamas? Are you in favor of what they did, restarting the war, regardless of it putting the Palestine people in peril? Are you an eye for an eye type of person, no matter what damage it will do? Do you only HATE the Jewish people, and have no condemnation towards Hamas and their actions? I'm just wondering who I'm dealing with here. If you're vague on your answers, or don't answer them, then your silence reveals the answers. By the way, if you can't see that someone who decides to actually, knowingly pick up a baby and behead it, is the most evil of ALL evil, then I can't help you. They also kidnapped women, and brought them back to Gaza to rape them. Go ahead and justify that. I'm sure you'll attempt to. Yuck.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 19:15:02 GMT -8
Hamas has done nothing more than the Israel has done: Stern Gang: Zionist Extremist Organization"Stern Gang, also called Stern Group or Lehi, formally Loḥamei Ḥerut Yisraʾel (Hebrew: “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), Zionist extremist organization in Palestine, founded in 1940 by Avraham Stern (1907–42) after a split in the right-wing underground movement Irgun Zvai Leumi." " The group’s terrorist activities extended beyond Palestine: two members assassinated Lord Moyne, British minister of state in the Middle East, at Cairo (November 1944). Later t he Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces." www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-GangJews who wanted to steal land...from people who have papers/deeds/rights to it...killed heads of country...bomb, killed innocent Arabs to create the state of Israel...they were extremist murdering terrorist...one of the members of the Jewish terrorist group...Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister....Hamas is doing the same thing Jews did to establish a state/country of their own...Fighters for the Freedom of Palestine... So, Nasty...what's the strategy here with Hamas? They know what the response is going to be. Get Isreal to look bad by destroying infrastructure and innocents as collateral damage? This is a serious question. Question 2, how does this help the Palestinian people? Of course, I have no real idea...but my guess is nothing more than the Palestinians Tet Offensive...yeah Israel will push them back...but psychologically/security/militarily...this is devastating to Israel...Hamas just shown no matter how big and bad Israel is today...no matter how much high-tech, money and influence...Israel and its people can be touch...using low-tech...Chuck Norris stuff...motorcycle, paragliders, tunnels...it's destroying the will/peace of mind of the Israeli people...letting them know they are not safe...never will be...that "we shall overcome one day." Then it's to kill the will of the American taxpayer to continuously bankroll billions to prop up a state that would cease to exist without its goodwill...demographics/energy demands are changing...soon we won't need Midlle Eastern oil and after decades of the same ole thing in the region...support for the Israel is waning. Lastly, Israel just created the next wave of Palestinian freedom fighters by slaughtering innocent people...some eight-year-old boy is growing up to avenge his loved ones...he knows who is responsible for his suffering...and it ain't Hamas confining him to a concentration camp, starving him, denying him medicine, education and cutting of the electricity...death means little when one has no prospects of a livable life....
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 19:27:12 GMT -8
So, Nasty...what's the strategy here with Hamas? They know what the response is going to be. Get Isreal to look bad by destroying infrastructure and innocents as collateral damage? This is a serious question. Question 2, how does this help the Palestinian people? Of course, I have no real idea...but my guess is nothing more than the Palestinians Tet Offensive...yeah Israel will push them back...but psychologically/security/militarily...this is devastating to Israel...Hamas just shown no matter how big and bad Israel is today...no matter how much high-tech, money and influence...Israel and its people can be touch...using low-tech...Chuck Norris stuff...motorcycle, paragliders, tunnels...it's destroying the will/peace of mind of the Israeli people...letting them know they are not safe...never will be...that "we shall overcome one day." Then it's to kill the will of the American taxpayer to continuously bankroll billions to prop up a state that would cease to exist without its goodwill...demographics/energy demands are changing...soon we won't need Midlle Eastern oil and after decades of the same ole thing in the region...support for the Israel is waning. Lastly, Israel just created the next wave of Palestinian freedom fighters by slaughtering innocent people...some eight-year-old boy is growing up to avenge his loved ones...he knows who is responsible for his suffering...and it ain't Hamas confining him to a concentration camp, starving him, denying him medicine, education and cutting of the electricity...death means little when one has no prospects of a livable life.... [br hmmm..you sound a little bit happy to me. You have skin in the game? I have friends over there (Isreal) that look like me, think like I do and are all around great people. Not just Hamas, but a lot of that part of the world would cut your head off as easily as mine.."The Great Satan". A woman can still get her head cut off in Saudi..for not a lot. There is a hatred of not just Isreal, but the "West" in a lot of that part of the world. I mentioned the Olympics in 1972...everybody was watching. I'm picking sides...and its not a hard call.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 19:27:34 GMT -8
Hamas has done nothing more than the Israel has done: Stern Gang: Zionist Extremist Organization"Stern Gang, also called Stern Group or Lehi, formally Loḥamei Ḥerut Yisraʾel (Hebrew: “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), Zionist extremist organization in Palestine, founded in 1940 by Avraham Stern (1907–42) after a split in the right-wing underground movement Irgun Zvai Leumi." " The group’s terrorist activities extended beyond Palestine: two members assassinated Lord Moyne, British minister of state in the Middle East, at Cairo (November 1944). Later t he Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces." www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-GangJews who wanted to steal land...from people who have papers/deeds/rights to it...killed heads of country...bomb, killed innocent Arabs to create the state of Israel...they were extremist murdering terrorist...one of the founding members of the Jewish terrorist group...Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister of Israel....Hamas is doing the same thing Jews did to establish a state/country of their own...Fighters for the Freedom of Palestine... Sounds like you belong to that FFFP. Have at it. You dodged these questions before. Let's see if you'll answer them this time. Are you Pro Hamas? Are you in favor of what they did, restarting the war, regardless of it putting the Palestine people in peril? Are you an eye for an eye type of person, no matter what damage it will do? Do you only HATE the Jewish people, and have no condemnation towards Hamas and their actions? I'm just wondering who I'm dealing with here. If you're vague on your answers, or don't answer them, then your silence reveals the answers. By the way, if you can't see that someone who decides to actually, knowingly pick up a baby and behead it, is the most evil of ALL evil, then I can't help you. They also kidnapped women, and brought them back to Gaza to rape them. Go ahead and justify that. I'm sure you'll attempt to. Yuck. West Bank: Spike in Israeli Killings of Palestinian ChildrenAugust 28, 2023 12:00AM EDT "Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels. Israeli forces had killed at least 34 Palestinian children in the West Bank as of August 22. Human Rights Watch investigated four fatal shootings of Palestinian children by Israeli forces between November 2022 and March 2023. “ Israeli forces are gunning down Palestinian children living under occupation with increasing frequency,” said Bill Van Esveld, associate children’s rights director at Human Rights Watch. “Unless Israel’s allies, particularly the United States, pressure Israel to change course, more Palestinian children will be killed.” "In all cases, Israeli forces shot the children’s upper bodies, without, according to witnesses, issuing warnings or using common, less-lethal measures such as tear gas, concussion grenades, or rubber-coated bullets. Adam Ayyad, 15, was fatally shot from behind in Deheisheh refugee camp on January 3 while with a group of boys throwing stones and at least one Molotov cocktail at Israeli forces. The soldier also shot and wounded a 13-year-old boy, witnesses said." www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-children
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 19:29:31 GMT -8
Of course, I have no real idea...but my guess is nothing more than the Palestinians Tet Offensive...yeah Israel will push them back...but psychologically/security/militarily...this is devastating to Israel...Hamas just shown no matter how big and bad Israel is today...no matter how much high-tech, money and influence...Israel and its people can be touch...using low-tech...Chuck Norris stuff...motorcycle, paragliders, tunnels...it's destroying the will/peace of mind of the Israeli people...letting them know they are not safe...never will be...that "we shall overcome one day." Then it's to kill the will of the American taxpayer to continuously bankroll billions to prop up a state that would cease to exist without its goodwill...demographics/energy demands are changing...soon we won't need Midlle Eastern oil and after decades of the same ole thing in the region...support for the Israel is waning. Lastly, Israel just created the next wave of Palestinian freedom fighters by slaughtering innocent people...some eight-year-old boy is growing up to avenge his loved ones...he knows who is responsible for his suffering...and it ain't Hamas confining him to a concentration camp, starving him, denying him medicine, education and cutting of the electricity...death means little when one has no prospects of a livable life.... [br hmmm..you sound a little bit happy to me. You have skin in the game? I have friends over there (Isreal) that look like me, think like I do and are all around great people. Not just Hamas, but a lot of that part of the world would cut your head off as easily as mine.."The Great Satan". A woman can still get her head cut off in Saudi..for not a lot. There is a hatred of not just Isreal, but the "West" in a lot of that part of the world. I mentioned the Olympics in 1972...everybody was watching. I'm picking sides...and its not a hard call. You're biased...I'm not.
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 19:35:49 GMT -8
[br hmmm..you sound a little bit happy to me. You have skin in the game? I have friends over there (Isreal) that look like me, think like I do and are all around great people. Not just Hamas, but a lot of that part of the world would cut your head off as easily as mine.."The Great Satan". A woman can still get her head cut off in Saudi..for not a lot. There is a hatred of not just Isreal, but the "West" in a lot of that part of the world. I mentioned the Olympics in 1972...everybody was watching. I'm picking sides...and its not a hard call. You're biased...I'm not. what does that mean exactly? and...you are not? your post coped a definite attitude.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 19:35:56 GMT -8
Hamas has done nothing more than the Israel has done: Stern Gang: Zionist Extremist Organization"Stern Gang, also called Stern Group or Lehi, formally Loḥamei Ḥerut Yisraʾel (Hebrew: “Fighters for the Freedom of Israel”), Zionist extremist organization in Palestine, founded in 1940 by Avraham Stern (1907–42) after a split in the right-wing underground movement Irgun Zvai Leumi." " The group’s terrorist activities extended beyond Palestine: two members assassinated Lord Moyne, British minister of state in the Middle East, at Cairo (November 1944). Later t he Stern Gang attacked airfields, railway yards, and other strategic installations in Palestine, usually with success, though at heavy loss in members killed or captured. After the creation of the state of Israel (1948), the group, which had always been condemned by moderate leaders of the Jewish community in Palestine, was suppressed, some of its units being incorporated in the Israeli defense forces." www.britannica.com/topic/Stern-GangJews who wanted to steal land...from people who have papers/deeds/rights to it...killed heads of country...bomb, killed innocent Arabs to create the state of Israel...they were extremist murdering terrorist...one of the founding members of the Jewish terrorist group...Yitzhak Shamir became prime minister of Israel....Hamas is doing the same thing Jews did to establish a state/country of their own...Fighters for the Freedom of Palestine... Sounds like you belong to that FFFP. Have at it. You dodged these questions before. Let's see if you'll answer them this time. Are you Pro Hamas? Are you in favor of what they did, restarting the war, regardless of it putting the Palestine people in peril? Are you an eye for an eye type of person, no matter what damage it will do? Do you only HATE the Jewish people, and have no condemnation towards Hamas and their actions? I'm just wondering who I'm dealing with here. If you're vague on your answers, or don't answer them, then your silence reveals the answers. By the way, if you can't see that someone who decides to actually, knowingly pick up a baby and behead it, is the most evil of ALL evil, then I can't help you. They also kidnapped women, and brought them back to Gaza to rape them. Go ahead and justify that. I'm sure you'll attempt to. Yuck. Hundreds of Palestinians Bury Toddler Killed by Israeli Forces6 Jun 2023"Mohammed al-Tamimi was the youngest of the 27 Palestinian children killed in Gaza and the West Bank this year." " Mohammed was shot in the head, which ruptured his brain vessels. His death was announced on Monday, and his body was transferred to the Palestine Medical Complex. The Israeli army said on Monday that soldiers had “responded with live fire” following a shooting attack on Neveh Tzuf." www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/6/6/palestinians-mourn-two-year-old-toddler-killed-by-israeli-forces
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 19:41:47 GMT -8
what does that mean exactly? and...you are not? your post coped a definite attitude. That means you are looking at the issue emotionally...you care more about your group...therefore you're willing to overlook a lot when it comes to this issue. I on the other hand, am looking at it rationally...and I have presented verifiable facts that back up what I say...and you and your ilk can't digest it...because you're too emotional.
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 19:47:23 GMT -8
what does that mean exactly? and...you are not? your post coped a definite attitude. That means you are looking at the issue emotionally...you care more about your group...therefore you're willing to overlook a lot when it comes to this issue. I on the other hand, am looking at it rationally...and I have presented verifiable facts that back up what I say...and you and your ilk can't digest it...because you're too emotional. that is actually quite funny (your ilk). I'm walking away now, cause you just played your hand.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Oct 11, 2023 19:50:32 GMT -8
Israel is at war. Like us verse Japan in WWII. After this last attack by Palestine, purposely killing children, babies, women, etc, I don't think Israel will stop until the enemy is destroyed / completely defeated. And I don't think the enemy will surrender. It's gonna be ugly. Like all wars. Not sure what the end result will actually be.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 19:52:15 GMT -8
Sounds like you belong to that FFFP. Have at it. You dodged these questions before. Let's see if you'll answer them this time. Are you Pro Hamas? Are you in favor of what they did, restarting the war, regardless of it putting the Palestine people in peril? Are you an eye for an eye type of person, no matter what damage it will do? Do you only HATE the Jewish people, and have no condemnation towards Hamas and their actions? I'm just wondering who I'm dealing with here. If you're vague on your answers, or don't answer them, then your silence reveals the answers. By the way, if you can't see that someone who decides to actually, knowingly pick up a baby and behead it, is the most evil of ALL evil, then I can't help you. They also kidnapped women, and brought them back to Gaza to rape them. Go ahead and justify that. I'm sure you'll attempt to. Yuck. West Bank: Spike in Israeli Killings of Palestinian ChildrenAugust 28, 2023 12:00AM EDT "Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels. Israeli forces had killed at least 34 Palestinian children in the West Bank as of August 22. Human Rights Watch investigated four fatal shootings of Palestinian children by Israeli forces between November 2022 and March 2023. “ Israeli forces are gunning down Palestinian children living under occupation with increasing frequency,” said Bill Van Esveld, associate children’s rights director at Human Rights Watch. “Unless Israel’s allies, particularly the United States, pressure Israel to change course, more Palestinian children will be killed.” "In all cases, Israeli forces shot the children’s upper bodies, without, according to witnesses, issuing warnings or using common, less-lethal measures such as tear gas, concussion grenades, or rubber-coated bullets. Adam Ayyad, 15, was fatally shot from behind in Deheisheh refugee camp on January 3 while with a group of boys throwing stones and at least one Molotov cocktail at Israeli forces. The soldier also shot and wounded a 13-year-old boy, witnesses said." www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-childrenNoted. You picked silence. I now know who I'm dealing with. You're ok with what Hamas has done. Kidnapping, rape, murder of babies by cutting their heads off, specifically targeting civilians and not structures, putting their own people in peril and not caring one bit about it, restarting a war, etc, etc, etc.... You have condemned the United States, over and over. You do not like it here. You especially do not like white people, the government, military, police, etc... This is obvious due to your posts over the year/years. If it's so horrible here, why not simply move, after you get your ducks in order? I know why you won't, but I'd like to hear it from you.
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 19:55:29 GMT -8
what does that mean exactly? and...you are not? your post coped a definite attitude. That means you are looking at the issue emotionally...you care more about your group...therefore you're willing to overlook a lot when it comes to this issue. I on the other hand, am looking at it rationally...and I have presented verifiable facts that back up what I say...and you and your ilk can't digest it...because you're too emotional. I'll answer this as well, since I guess I'm one of the "ilk." I don't like it when innocent lives are taken, period. I especially don't like it when lives are taken in the way that Hamas has taken them. I also don't like how Hamas could give two s**ts about their OWN people, putting them in more peril.
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