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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 19:56:39 GMT -8
That means you are looking at the issue emotionally...you care more about your group...therefore you're willing to overlook a lot when it comes to this issue. I on the other hand, am looking at it rationally...and I have presented verifiable facts that back up what I say...and you and your ilk can't digest it...because you're too emotional. that is actually quite funny (your ilk). I'm walking away now, cause you just played your hand. There's a reason why part of his handle has the word "nasty" in it. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 19:59:26 GMT -8
[br hmmm..you sound a little bit happy to me. You have skin in the game? I have friends over there (Isreal) that look like me, think like I do and are all around great people. Not just Hamas, but a lot of that part of the world would cut your head off as easily as mine.."The Great Satan". A woman can still get her head cut off in Saudi..for not a lot. There is a hatred of not just Isreal, but the "West" in a lot of that part of the world. I mentioned the Olympics in 1972...everybody was watching. I'm picking sides...and its not a hard call. You're biased...I'm not. This is actually quite ironic. You're saying he's biased? All you're talking about is how Hamas is justified in all of their actions. Sheesh. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 20:03:25 GMT -8
that is actually quite funny (your ilk). I'm walking away now, cause you just played your hand. There's a reason why part of his handle has the word "nasty" in it. Dudes talking down to the Boomers! Thought maybe "nasty" meant he was an interior lineman or such...now we know better. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 20:04:58 GMT -8
West Bank: Spike in Israeli Killings of Palestinian ChildrenAugust 28, 2023 12:00AM EDT "Last year, 2022, was the deadliest year for Palestinian children in the West Bank in 15 years, and 2023 is on track to meet or exceed 2022 levels. Israeli forces had killed at least 34 Palestinian children in the West Bank as of August 22. Human Rights Watch investigated four fatal shootings of Palestinian children by Israeli forces between November 2022 and March 2023. “ Israeli forces are gunning down Palestinian children living under occupation with increasing frequency,” said Bill Van Esveld, associate children’s rights director at Human Rights Watch. “Unless Israel’s allies, particularly the United States, pressure Israel to change course, more Palestinian children will be killed.” "In all cases, Israeli forces shot the children’s upper bodies, without, according to witnesses, issuing warnings or using common, less-lethal measures such as tear gas, concussion grenades, or rubber-coated bullets. Adam Ayyad, 15, was fatally shot from behind in Deheisheh refugee camp on January 3 while with a group of boys throwing stones and at least one Molotov cocktail at Israeli forces. The soldier also shot and wounded a 13-year-old boy, witnesses said." www.hrw.org/news/2023/08/28/west-bank-spike-israeli-killings-palestinian-childrenNoted. You picked silence. I now know who I'm dealing with. You're ok with what Hamas has done. Kidnapping, rape, murder of babies by cutting their heads off, specifically targeting civilians and not structures, putting their own people in peril and not caring one bit about it, restarting a war, etc, etc, etc.... You have condemned the United States, over and over. You do not like it here. You especially do not like white people, the government, military, police, etc... This is obvious due to your posts over the year/years. If it's so horrible here, why not simply move, after you get your ducks in order? I know why you won't, but I'd like to hear it from you. Point out the lie I posted about the issue...or any issue...apparently...you just can't stomach the truth.... |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 11, 2023 20:13:40 GMT -8
This is actually quite ironic. You're saying he's biased? All you're talking about is how Hamas is justified in all of their actions. Sheesh. He's biased because he has friends/loved one affected by the issue...he can't possibly feel empathy for the Palestinians who are suffering from no fault of their own...in closing...all anyone but me is talking about is how Israel is justified in all of its actions...and I showed they are not innocent bystanders in the attack...they were killing babies way before Hamas' Saturday's attack...but that goes against the conventional wisdom or concern of this thread.... |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 20:14:32 GMT -8
Noted. You picked silence. I now know who I'm dealing with. You're ok with what Hamas has done. Kidnapping, rape, murder of babies by cutting their heads off, specifically targeting civilians and not structures, putting their own people in peril and not caring one bit about it, restarting a war, etc, etc, etc.... You have condemned the United States, over and over. You do not like it here. You especially do not like white people, the government, military, police, etc... This is obvious due to your posts over the year/years. If it's so horrible here, why not simply move, after you get your ducks in order? I know why you won't, but I'd like to hear it from you. Point out the lie I posted about the issue...or any issue...apparently...you just can't stomach the truth.... I will denounce ANY extremist group, unlike you. I'm sure there are Israeli extremist groups now, or only in the past. All countries have them, but to go into Israel and specifically target civilians, rape them, cut the heads off of babies, kidnap women and bring them back to Gaza to rape, and or kill them, target a group of young people who were enjoying a festival of peace and target them with artillery, and so much more is absolutely brutal. They killed over a thousand people, by striking first. Why won't you say that what Hamas did is not the way to go about it? Do you actually think it was going to help their cause? It only hurt their people to the nth degree. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 20:16:43 GMT -8
This is actually quite ironic. You're saying he's biased? All you're talking about is how Hamas is justified in all of their actions. Sheesh. He's biased because he has friends/loved one affected by the issue...he can't possibly feel empathy for the Palestinians who are suffering from no fault of their own...in closing...all anyone but me is talking about is how Israel is justified in all of its actions...and I showed they are not innocent bystanders in the attack...they were killing babies way before Hamas' Saturday's attack...but that goes against the conventional wisdom or concern of this thread.... You're in favor of what Hamas did. We get it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2023 20:18:35 GMT -8
He's biased because he has friends/loved one affected by the issue...he can't possibly feel empathy for the Palestinians who are suffering from no fault of their own...in closing...all anyone but me is talking about is how Israel is justified in all of its actions...and I showed they are not innocent bystanders in the attack...they were killing babies way before Hamas' Saturday's attack...but that goes against the conventional wisdom or concern of this thread.... You're in favor of what Hamas did. We get it. Or, much more likely, you don't have all the answers and your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses. There's no winner here. Both entities have done awful, inhumane things to the other. Such is war. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 20:20:40 GMT -8
This is actually quite ironic. You're saying he's biased? All you're talking about is how Hamas is justified in all of their actions. Sheesh. He's biased because he has friends/loved one affected by the issue...he can't possibly feel empathy for the Palestinians who are suffering from no fault of their own...in closing...all anyone but me is talking about is how Israel is justified in all of its actions...and I showed they are not innocent bystanders in the attack...they were killing babies way before Hamas' Saturday's attack...but that goes against the conventional wisdom or concern of this thread.... hey don't put words in my mouth, I do have compassion for civilians in all cultures. I just don't give a f x x x about hamas...and I hope they get wiped. I'm getting the feeling you are 35 or younger with not a big life experience. I saw 1972 Olympics...I doubt you did. If that was a PR move by the PLO...it made them look like major POS. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 20:32:03 GMT -8
You're in favor of what Hamas did. We get it. Or, much more likely, you don't have all the answers and your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses. There's no winner here. Both entities have done awful, inhumane things to the other. Such is war. sorry Ryan, but this is one of the biggest bull$#!+ posts you have ever made "your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses"...really? |
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 11, 2023 20:36:26 GMT -8
I’m not sure what that little excerpt demonstrates, other than your lack of focus. Under Trump, we had peace. Under Biden we have war, chaos and invigorated terrorists. Biden’s energy policies have made Iran (and its petroleum) great again. Biden’s administration was worried about the sky falling, and completely ignored the legitimate terrorist threats we are now looking at. They can’t even say the words “Iran is complicit and responsible?” Imagine during WW II FDR not calling out Hitler for the fall of France and slaughtering of Jews? It illustrates what an idiotic, bumbling fool in cognitive decline looks like. Combine that with the literal hundreds of other sound bytes of his limited vocabulary, inhumane statements and disgusting gaffes and even you should be able to grasp it. Should we send a smoke signal to a neighbor or something for you to get help? You seriously cannot believe what you type, right? Disengage from Mark Levin for a second. Peace? You call selling out the country to foreign enemies....peace? Stunning levels of denial. Do you need a map and a compass? You are lost. Iran is not working in isolation. They are backed by Russia, as you have been shown. It's pretty apparent where that came from, and no it didn't happen in isolation either. Leaked intelligence equals means and opportunity. You're comparing this to World War ÍI? Lord help us. Trump’s policies of energy independence and bombing the cr@p out of ISIS led to stability in the region. There was no war, no dead babies, no raped Israeli women. Hamas (and Putin) waited for the US to elect a weak leader (Biden) before they unleashed their barbaric atrocities. Biden’s idiotic policy of energy dependence and giving terrorists money (5 billion) and advanced weapons (botched Afghanistan withdrawal) has led to 50 slaughtered infants and hundreds of other atrocities. You supported these inane policies and politicians Ryan, so these troubles began at YOUR doorstep. Granted these were probably unintended consequences, but honestly Trump predicted something like this would happen after Biden took office. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 20:40:52 GMT -8
You're in favor of what Hamas did. We get it. Or, much more likely, you don't have all the answers and your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses. There's no winner here. Both entities have done awful, inhumane things to the other. Such is war. Limited ability of neutrality? Here you go again, justifying what Hamas did. You're a Hamas sympathizer, and are cut out the cloth of the likes of our very own BNASTY. Congrats. Sheesh. I also did say that I don't condone ANY extremist organizations or their actions, including any in Israel if there are, including in the present or past. The answers for the Hamas atrocities are right in front of you. What they did put their people in even more jeopardy, and they could give a hoot. |
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Post by uwphoto on Oct 11, 2023 20:41:20 GMT -8
It illustrates what an idiotic, bumbling fool in cognitive decline looks like. Combine that with the literal hundreds of other sound bytes of his limited vocabulary, inhumane statements and disgusting gaffes and even you should be able to grasp it. Should we send a smoke signal to a neighbor or something for you to get help? You seriously cannot believe what you type, right? Disengage from Mark Levin for a second. Peace? You call selling out the country to foreign enemies....peace? Stunning levels of denial. Do you need a map and a compass? You are lost. Iran is not working in isolation. They are backed by Russia, as you have been shown. It's pretty apparent where that came from, and no it didn't happen in isolation either. Leaked intelligence equals means and opportunity. You're comparing this to World War ÍI? Lord help us. Trump’s policies of energy independence and bombing the cr@p out of ISIS led to stability in the region. There was no war, no dead babies, no raped Israeli women. Hamas (and Putin) waited for the US to elect a weak leader (Biden) before they unleashed their barbaric atrocities. Biden’s idiotic policy of energy dependence and giving terrorists money (5 billion) and advanced weapons (botched Afghanistan withdrawal) has led to 50 slaughtered infants and hundreds of other atrocities. You supported these inane policies and politicians Ryan, so these troubles began at YOUR doorstep. Granted these were probably unintended consequences, but honestly Trump predicted something like this would happen after Biden took office. Cue the Musician! lord help us. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 20:42:56 GMT -8
Or, much more likely, you don't have all the answers and your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses. There's no winner here. Both entities have done awful, inhumane things to the other. Such is war. sorry Ryan, but this is one of the biggest bull$#!+ posts you have ever made "your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses"...really? There is no neutrality when it comes to Hamas. I guess there are those that have sympathy for them. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2023 20:55:46 GMT -8
It illustrates what an idiotic, bumbling fool in cognitive decline looks like. Combine that with the literal hundreds of other sound bytes of his limited vocabulary, inhumane statements and disgusting gaffes and even you should be able to grasp it. Should we send a smoke signal to a neighbor or something for you to get help? You seriously cannot believe what you type, right? Disengage from Mark Levin for a second. Peace? You call selling out the country to foreign enemies....peace? Stunning levels of denial. Do you need a map and a compass? You are lost. Iran is not working in isolation. They are backed by Russia, as you have been shown. It's pretty apparent where that came from, and no it didn't happen in isolation either. Leaked intelligence equals means and opportunity. You're comparing this to World War ÍI? Lord help us. Trump’s policies of energy independence and bombing the cr@p out of ISIS led to stability in the region. There was no war, no dead babies, no raped Israeli women. Hamas (and Putin) waited for the US to elect a weak leader (Biden) before they unleashed their barbaric atrocities. Biden’s idiotic policy of energy dependence and giving terrorists money (5 billion) and advanced weapons (botched Afghanistan withdrawal) has led to 50 slaughtered infants and hundreds of other atrocities. You supported these inane policies and politicians Ryan, so these troubles began at YOUR doorstep. Granted these were probably unintended consequences, but honestly Trump predicted something like this would happen after Biden took office. How many times are you going to repeat the energy independence song? Because it's just.....wrong. You probably heard the term on Hannity and don't even understand what it means. www.google.com/amp/s/www.forbes.com/sites/rrapier/2023/05/02/us-energy-independence-soars-to-highest-levels-in-over-70-years/amp/Stability in the region? What stability? Brokering deals with countries that aren't fighting each other is paper achievement status. Of course it helps to get a two billion dollar blood deal with the Saudi kingdom, that'll buy a lot of (fake) stability. It only cost one murdered American journalist. Peace on Earth! Glad you brought up Putin - He waited for his puppet to be out of office, after milking him for classified intelligence, the root of which you're seeing unfold right now. The theme of praising dictators and terrorist groups? Not a coincidence. Hezbollah is "great" or "vicious" and Hamas is "incredible." Wrong side of history, flute. It's not hard to predict the future when you have a hand in the chaos. Botched withdrawal of Afghanistan - Trump brokered the deal, with Pompeo, in a backdoor meeting. Biden stuck to the idiotic timeline and both have culpability in the response. Please don't insult our intelligence here, we aren't like you. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2023 21:09:50 GMT -8
Or, much more likely, you don't have all the answers and your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses. There's no winner here. Both entities have done awful, inhumane things to the other. Such is war. sorry Ryan, but this is one of the biggest bull$#!+ posts you have ever made "your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses"...really? Yeah, really. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 21:12:27 GMT -8
Read the covenant that Hamas drew up in 1988. That explains their intentions.
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2023 21:12:37 GMT -8
sorry Ryan, but this is one of the biggest bull$#!+ posts you have ever made "your limited ability to let neutrality through clouds your responses"...really? There is no neutrality when it comes to Hamas. I guess there are those that have sympathy for them. Sympathy? Who has sympathy for a terrorist group? Once again, you want to manipulate responses to cue some righteous crusade. You want to focus on this conflict alone, which doesn't take into account literally the last 75 years, or, more specifically, since 2007. It's simple: What Hamas did was disgusting and vile. It has no place on Earth. But absolving ethnic cleansing on one side to blame the other is irrespective of this entire war. The real losers are the innocent civilians who can't even leave. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 11, 2023 21:19:29 GMT -8
There is no neutrality when it comes to Hamas. I guess there are those that have sympathy for them. Sympathy? Who has sympathy for a terrorist group? Once again, you want to manipulate responses to cue some righteous crusade. You want to focus on this conflict alone, which doesn't take into account literally the last 75 years, or, more specifically, since 2007. It's simple: What Hamas did was disgusting and vile. It has no place on Earth. But absolving ethnic cleansing on one side to blame the other is irrespective of this entire war. Who has sympathy? Come on now. It sounds like you watch the news. If you want to replace the word with justifiers, than that's just fine. Here you go again, getting all dramatic towards me , AGAIN. Righteous crusade? If me talking about this historic, tragic event is a righteous crusade, sign me up. You seem to be riding a righteous crusade about one topic or another on this site, continually, so I wouldn't go there. I'm not manipulating anything. It's there right in front of everyone. When you say that someone can't find neutrality in this recent event, and towards Hamas, it sure sounds like you're sympathizing with them, and TRYING to justify it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 11, 2023 21:31:26 GMT -8
Sympathy? Who has sympathy for a terrorist group? Once again, you want to manipulate responses to cue some righteous crusade. You want to focus on this conflict alone, which doesn't take into account literally the last 75 years, or, more specifically, since 2007. It's simple: What Hamas did was disgusting and vile. It has no place on Earth. But absolving ethnic cleansing on one side to blame the other is irrespective of this entire war. Who has sympathy? Come on now. It sounds like you watch the news. If you want to replace the word with justifiers, than that's just fine. Here you go again, getting all dramatic towards me , AGAIN. Righteous crusade? If me talking about this historic, tragic event is a righteous crusade, sign me up. You seem to be riding a righteous crusade about one topic or another on this site, continually, so I wouldn't go there. I'm not manipulating anything. It's there right in front of everyone. When you say that someone can't find neutrality in this recent event, and towards Hamas, it sure sounds like you're sympathizing with them, and TRYING to justify it. I don't watch the news. Justified? From where? Who? You're the one being dramatic here. Most of the rest of us are able to calmly and rationally explore the details and complex nature of what got us to this point. As much as you want to boil it down to one side versus the other....that's just not real life. When I say neutrality - I mean looking through an objective lens that views both parties as doing irreparable and devastating harm to the other, as we've witnessed for years. This isn't like Russia invading a sovereign country and annexing part of it for their own gain; this is sheer brutality and oppression with both the Israeli government and the terror groups being in the wrong. |
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