|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 12, 2024 16:53:58 GMT -8
Guess not.
|
|
|
Post by azson on Aug 13, 2024 8:24:33 GMT -8
New thread on how the current situation resembles WW2 and how that makes his case incoming...
|
|
|
Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 14, 2024 12:34:09 GMT -8
This may surprise you, but, despite the fact that I am retired, I do have other things to tend to in addition to responding to AztecMesa posts.
Anyway, I will offer these thoughts.
As far as the war in Gaza is concerned, I see it as another chapter in the 76 year-old struggle between a nation trying to establish itself as a home for a people who have been brutalized for millennia and another group that seeks as its stated goal the destruction of that new state.
I am not, repeat not, saying that the Palestinians do not have legitimate concerns regarding their relations with Israel. I do say that so long as those who hold power among the Palestinians continue to maintain their goal of destroying the state of Israel, there will be no peace.
Here are some pertinent facts.
On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted Resolution 181. That resolution partitioned Palestine into two areas, one for Jews, the other for Muslims. The State of Israel declared its establishment on 14 May 1948. On 15 May, the armies of neighboring Arab states invaded the area of the former Mandate, beginning the First Arab–Israeli War.
Syria, one the most disgusting dictatorships on earth, has never made peace with Israel. Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994) have.
As for sdsball's charges of massive war crimes against Israel, no, I do not believe that they are true. Not without first examining Israel's side of the story in each case. Hamas and other anti-Israel actors have a long and well documented history of lying about Israel.
One thing is clear about Hamas, et al., and here I must once again refer to WWII. The Nazis went to some lengths to hide the Holocaust.
www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
On the other hand, Hamas, etc., are eager to publicize what they have done, the more horrible the better.
One part of the compilation is an extended version of an audio recording that was played by Israeli diplomats to the U.N. security council this week. On it, a Hamas fighter calls his parents in Gaza and brags, shouting, “Mom, I killed more than 10 Jews with my own hands,” he said. “Please be proud of me, dad.”
After his parents praise him, the terrorist repeatedly urges his family to watch his WhatsApp feed to see what he has done.
www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/videos-hamas-attack-suggest-jihadism-evolved-chilling-new-ways-rcna122564
I can guarantee that no German called his parents to brag that he had killed 10 jews.
I can see why the Palestinian people hate Israel. They are taught to hate from the time they are children. (Israeli children, on the other hand, are not taught to hate Muslims.) The possibility of living in peace with Israel is never mentioned by those who seek to radicalize the Palestinians. By maintaining the goal of destroying Israel, the Palestinians have dug themselves into a very deep whole that will be difficult to get out of. Nevertheless, a complete change in the way they deal with Israel is the ONLY way for them to build a better future. Once they do that, Israel will find it necessary to reach some sort of accommodation with the Palestinians.
AzWm
PS: Here's a thought. No doubt many Palestinians will demand a "light to return," which would destroy Israel as a Jewish state. Not going to happen! Even if you could prove that Muslims were forced out of what is now Israel, that is the classic non-starter. Did we steal California, etc. from Mexico? Arguably. So, what are the odds of returning the Golden State to Mexico? You see what I mean?
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 14, 2024 13:02:46 GMT -8
This may surprise you, but, despite the fact that I am retired, I do have other things to tend to in addition to responding to AztecMesa posts.
Anyway, I will offer these thoughts.
As far as the war in Gaza is concerned, I see it as another chapter in the 76 year-old struggle between a nation trying to establish itself as a home for a people who have been brutalized for millennia and another group that seeks as its stated goal the destruction of that new state.
I am not, repeat not, saying that the Palestinians do not have legitimate concerns regarding their relations with Israel. I do say that so long as those who hold power among the Palestinians continue to maintain their goal of destroying the state of Israel, there will be no peace.
Here are some pertinent facts.
On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted Resolution 181. That resolution partitioned Palestine into two areas, one for Jews, the other for Muslims. The State of Israel declared its establishment on 14 May 1948. On 15 May, the armies of neighboring Arab states invaded the area of the former Mandate, beginning the First Arab–Israeli War.
Syria, one the most disgusting dictatorships on earth, has never made peace with Israel. Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994) have.
As for sdsball's charges of massive war crimes against Israel, no, I do not believe that they are true. Not without first examining Israel's side of the story in each case. Hamas and other anti-Israel actors have a long and well documented history of lying about Israel.
One thing is clear about Hamas, et al., and here I must once again refer to WWII. The Nazis went to some lengths to hide the Holocaust.
www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
On the other hand, Hamas, etc., are eager to publicize what they have done, the more horrible the better.
One part of the compilation is an extended version of an audio recording that was played by Israeli diplomats to the U.N. security council this week. On it, a Hamas fighter calls his parents in Gaza and brags, shouting, “Mom, I killed more than 10 Jews with my own hands,” he said. “Please be proud of me, dad.”
After his parents praise him, the terrorist repeatedly urges his family to watch his WhatsApp feed to see what he has done.
www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/videos-hamas-attack-suggest-jihadism-evolved-chilling-new-ways-rcna122564
I can guarantee that no German called his parents to brag that he had killed 10 jews.
I can see why the Palestinian people hate Israel. They are taught to hate from the time they are children. (Israeli children, on the other hand, are not taught to hate Muslims.) The possibility of living in peace with Israel is never mentioned by those who seek to radicalize the Palestinians. By maintaining the goal of destroying Israel, the Palestinians have dug themselves into a very deep whole that will be difficult to get out of. Nevertheless, a complete change in the way they deal with Israel is the ONLY way for them to build a better future. Once they do that, Israel will find it necessary to reach some sort of accommodation with the Palestinians.
AzWm
PS: Here's a thought. No doubt many Palestinians will demand a "light to return," which would destroy Israel as Jewish state. Not going to happen! Even if you could prove that Muslims were forced out of what is now Israel, that is the classic non-starter. Did we steal California, etc. from Mexico? Arguably. So, what are the odds of returning the Golden State to Mexico? You see what I mean?
This does not answer the question.
|
|
|
Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 14, 2024 13:25:11 GMT -8
|
|
|
Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 14, 2024 13:26:35 GMT -8
This may surprise you, but, despite the fact that I am retired, I do have other things to tend to in addition to responding to AztecMesa posts.
Anyway, I will offer these thoughts.
As far as the war in Gaza is concerned, I see it as another chapter in the 76 year-old struggle between a nation trying to establish itself as a home for a people who have been brutalized for millennia and another group that seeks as its stated goal the destruction of that new state.
I am not, repeat not, saying that the Palestinians do not have legitimate concerns regarding their relations with Israel. I do say that so long as those who hold power among the Palestinians continue to maintain their goal of destroying the state of Israel, there will be no peace.
Here are some pertinent facts.
On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted Resolution 181. That resolution partitioned Palestine into two areas, one for Jews, the other for Muslims. The State of Israel declared its establishment on 14 May 1948. On 15 May, the armies of neighboring Arab states invaded the area of the former Mandate, beginning the First Arab–Israeli War.
Syria, one the most disgusting dictatorships on earth, has never made peace with Israel. Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994) have.
As for sdsball's charges of massive war crimes against Israel, no, I do not believe that they are true. Not without first examining Israel's side of the story in each case. Hamas and other anti-Israel actors have a long and well documented history of lying about Israel.
One thing is clear about Hamas, et al., and here I must once again refer to WWII. The Nazis went to some lengths to hide the Holocaust.
www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
On the other hand, Hamas, etc., are eager to publicize what they have done, the more horrible the better.
One part of the compilation is an extended version of an audio recording that was played by Israeli diplomats to the U.N. security council this week. On it, a Hamas fighter calls his parents in Gaza and brags, shouting, “Mom, I killed more than 10 Jews with my own hands,” he said. “Please be proud of me, dad.”
After his parents praise him, the terrorist repeatedly urges his family to watch his WhatsApp feed to see what he has done.
www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/videos-hamas-attack-suggest-jihadism-evolved-chilling-new-ways-rcna122564
I can guarantee that no German called his parents to brag that he had killed 10 jews.
I can see why the Palestinian people hate Israel. They are taught to hate from the time they are children. (Israeli children, on the other hand, are not taught to hate Muslims.) The possibility of living in peace with Israel is never mentioned by those who seek to radicalize the Palestinians. By maintaining the goal of destroying Israel, the Palestinians have dug themselves into a very deep whole that will be difficult to get out of. Nevertheless, a complete change in the way they deal with Israel is the ONLY way for them to build a better future. Once they do that, Israel will find it necessary to reach some sort of accommodation with the Palestinians.
AzWm
PS: Here's a thought. No doubt many Palestinians will demand a "light to return," which would destroy Israel as Jewish state. Not going to happen! Even if you could prove that Muslims were forced out of what is now Israel, that is the classic non-starter. Did we steal California, etc. from Mexico? Arguably. So, what are the odds of returning the Golden State to Mexico? You see what I mean?
This does not answer the question. When will you answer my questions?
AzWm
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 14, 2024 13:29:36 GMT -8
This does not answer the question. When will you answer my questions?
AzWm
When you confront the reality of what I posted. Pretty simple. Did Israel tell civilians to evacuate to a safety city and then bomb them days later?
|
|
|
Post by azson on Aug 14, 2024 13:30:16 GMT -8
This may surprise you, but, despite the fact that I am retired, I do have other things to tend to in addition to responding to AztecMesa posts.
Anyway, I will offer these thoughts.
As far as the war in Gaza is concerned, I see it as another chapter in the 76 year-old struggle between a nation trying to establish itself as a home for a people who have been brutalized for millennia and another group that seeks as its stated goal the destruction of that new state.
I am not, repeat not, saying that the Palestinians do not have legitimate concerns regarding their relations with Israel. I do say that so long as those who hold power among the Palestinians continue to maintain their goal of destroying the state of Israel, there will be no peace.
Here are some pertinent facts.
On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted Resolution 181. That resolution partitioned Palestine into two areas, one for Jews, the other for Muslims. The State of Israel declared its establishment on 14 May 1948. On 15 May, the armies of neighboring Arab states invaded the area of the former Mandate, beginning the First Arab–Israeli War.
Syria, one the most disgusting dictatorships on earth, has never made peace with Israel. Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994) have.
As for sdsball's charges of massive war crimes against Israel, no, I do not believe that they are true. Not without first examining Israel's side of the story in each case. Hamas and other anti-Israel actors have a long and well documented history of lying about Israel.
One thing is clear about Hamas, et al., and here I must once again refer to WWII. The Nazis went to some lengths to hide the Holocaust.
www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
On the other hand, Hamas, etc., are eager to publicize what they have done, the more horrible the better.
One part of the compilation is an extended version of an audio recording that was played by Israeli diplomats to the U.N. security council this week. On it, a Hamas fighter calls his parents in Gaza and brags, shouting, “Mom, I killed more than 10 Jews with my own hands,” he said. “Please be proud of me, dad.”
After his parents praise him, the terrorist repeatedly urges his family to watch his WhatsApp feed to see what he has done.
www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/videos-hamas-attack-suggest-jihadism-evolved-chilling-new-ways-rcna122564
I can guarantee that no German called his parents to brag that he had killed 10 jews.
I can see why the Palestinian people hate Israel. They are taught to hate from the time they are children. (Israeli children, on the other hand, are not taught to hate Muslims.) The possibility of living in peace with Israel is never mentioned by those who seek to radicalize the Palestinians. By maintaining the goal of destroying Israel, the Palestinians have dug themselves into a very deep whole that will be difficult to get out of. Nevertheless, a complete change in the way they deal with Israel is the ONLY way for them to build a better future. Once they do that, Israel will find it necessary to reach some sort of accommodation with the Palestinians.
AzWm
PS: Here's a thought. No doubt many Palestinians will demand a "light to return," which would destroy Israel as Jewish state. Not going to happen! Even if you could prove that Muslims were forced out of what is now Israel, that is the classic non-starter. Did we steal California, etc. from Mexico? Arguably. So, what are the odds of returning the Golden State to Mexico? You see what I mean?
Here are some "pertinent facts" as well, all of which you continue to ignore and disingenuously pretend don't exist: www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1654922www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abusesen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes#:~:text=These%20have%20included%20murder%2C%20intentional,of%20medical%20neutrality%2C%20targeting%20journalists%2C
|
|
|
Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 14, 2024 21:06:14 GMT -8
If Israel is so evil, as some of you insist that it is, how can we, in good conscience, continue to support it? Why would we not do everything in our power to help destroy the government of Israel? I don't think one can straddle the fence on this issue. One cannot stand back and do nothing when a vile state has committed the kind of terrorist acts Israel is accused of. Come on, let us know what you think we should do to punish Israel. (I won't bother to ask what you think we should do against Hamas, Iran, etc.)
By the way, HRW is famous for anti-Israel news. That's why I do not automatically believe its charges. Has HRW said anything about Oct. 7th?
AzWm
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 14, 2024 21:21:09 GMT -8
If Israel is so evil, as some of you insist that it is, how can we, in good conscience, continue to support it? Why would we not do everything in our power to help destroy the government of Israel? I don't think one can straddle the fence on this issue. One cannot stand back and do nothing when a vile state has committed the kind of terrorist acts Israel is accused of. Come on, let us know what you think we should do to punish Israel. (I won't bother to ask what you think we should do against Hamas, Iran, etc.)
By the way, HRW is famous for anti-Israel news. That's why I do not automatically believe its charges. Has HRW said anything about Oct. 7th?
AzWm The fact you can't answer a simple question that has been posted for nearly a week....tells me a lot more than any disingenuous, obvious query you have here. We're simply back to discrediting sources you don't like.
|
|
|
Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 15, 2024 11:36:51 GMT -8
This may surprise you, but, despite the fact that I am retired, I do have other things to tend to in addition to responding to AztecMesa posts.
Anyway, I will offer these thoughts.
As far as the war in Gaza is concerned, I see it as another chapter in the 76 year-old struggle between a nation trying to establish itself as a home for a people who have been brutalized for millennia and another group that seeks as its stated goal the destruction of that new state.
I am not, repeat not, saying that the Palestinians do not have legitimate concerns regarding their relations with Israel. I do say that so long as those who hold power among the Palestinians continue to maintain their goal of destroying the state of Israel, there will be no peace.
Here are some pertinent facts.
On 29 November 1947, the General Assembly adopted Resolution 181. That resolution partitioned Palestine into two areas, one for Jews, the other for Muslims. The State of Israel declared its establishment on 14 May 1948. On 15 May, the armies of neighboring Arab states invaded the area of the former Mandate, beginning the First Arab–Israeli War.
Syria, one the most disgusting dictatorships on earth, has never made peace with Israel. Egypt (1979) and Jordan (1994) have.
As for sdsball's charges of massive war crimes against Israel, no, I do not believe that they are true. Not without first examining Israel's side of the story in each case. Hamas and other anti-Israel actors have a long and well documented history of lying about Israel.
One thing is clear about Hamas, et al., and here I must once again refer to WWII. The Nazis went to some lengths to hide the Holocaust.
www.history.com/news/how-the-nazis-tried-to-cover-up-their-crimes-at-auschwitz
On the other hand, Hamas, etc., are eager to publicize what they have done, the more horrible the better.
One part of the compilation is an extended version of an audio recording that was played by Israeli diplomats to the U.N. security council this week. On it, a Hamas fighter calls his parents in Gaza and brags, shouting, “Mom, I killed more than 10 Jews with my own hands,” he said. “Please be proud of me, dad.”
After his parents praise him, the terrorist repeatedly urges his family to watch his WhatsApp feed to see what he has done.
www.nbcnews.com/news/investigations/videos-hamas-attack-suggest-jihadism-evolved-chilling-new-ways-rcna122564
I can guarantee that no German called his parents to brag that he had killed 10 jews.
I can see why the Palestinian people hate Israel. They are taught to hate from the time they are children. (Israeli children, on the other hand, are not taught to hate Muslims.) The possibility of living in peace with Israel is never mentioned by those who seek to radicalize the Palestinians. By maintaining the goal of destroying Israel, the Palestinians have dug themselves into a very deep whole that will be difficult to get out of. Nevertheless, a complete change in the way they deal with Israel is the ONLY way for them to build a better future. Once they do that, Israel will find it necessary to reach some sort of accommodation with the Palestinians.
AzWm
PS: Here's a thought. No doubt many Palestinians will demand a "light to return," which would destroy Israel as Jewish state. Not going to happen! Even if you could prove that Muslims were forced out of what is now Israel, that is the classic non-starter. Did we steal California, etc. from Mexico? Arguably. So, what are the odds of returning the Golden State to Mexico? You see what I mean?
Here are some "pertinent facts" as well, all of which you continue to ignore and disingenuously pretend don't exist: www.palestine-studies.org/en/node/1654922www.hrw.org/news/2017/06/04/israel-50-years-occupation-abusesen.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_war_crimes#:~:text=These%20have%20included%20murder%2C%20intentional,of%20medical%20neutrality%2C%20targeting%20journalists%2C The sources you refer to are, to be frank, not reliable. Certainly not reliable with respect to "reporting" on Israel. And I am still waiting for you to comment on Oct. 7th.
AzWm
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 15, 2024 11:42:19 GMT -8
The sources you refer to are, to be frank, not reliable. Certainly not reliable with respect to "reporting" on Israel. And I am still waiting for you to comment on Oct. 7th.
AzWm
So basically if the source doesn't agree with you, you don't care. You asked for evidence, turned around and said you don't have enough time to investigate said evidence and now you're saying the sources aren't what you want to hear. And you expect people to take this seriously?
|
|
|
Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 15, 2024 11:47:52 GMT -8
U.S. Decries Reported Sexual Abuse of Palestinian Prisoners After Graphic Video Aired on Israeli TV“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” Miller said, adding that the reports should be “fully” investigated by the Israeli government. “There ought to be zero tolerance for sexual abuse, rape of any detainee, period,” he added. The White House also called the reports of rape, torture and abuse “deeply, deeply concerning.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-sexual-abuse-palestinian-prisoners-rcna165811Videos Appear to Show Israeli Soldiers Abusing Bound and Blindfolded Palestinian Detainees"In the most graphic scene, soldiers stand around a group of blindfolded Palestinian men whose hands are tied behind their backs. Most of the detainees are shirtless or completely naked. An Israeli soldier can be seen stomping on the head of one Palestinian man who is on his back, his bound hands covering his face. The man cries out for his mother in Arabic. He is then dragged away, screaming. Another man with a Palestinian accent wails repeatedly in Arabic: “ God, I can’t handle this.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/videos-israeli-soldiers-abuse-palestinian-detainees-rcna123214Israeli government is run by savages...war criminals...no wonder nobody but racists, bigots, war profiteers and abhorrent people/politicians side with it.....
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Aug 15, 2024 13:34:39 GMT -8
U.S. Decries Reported Sexual Abuse of Palestinian Prisoners After Graphic Video Aired on Israeli TV“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” Miller said, adding that the reports should be “fully” investigated by the Israeli government. “There ought to be zero tolerance for sexual abuse, rape of any detainee, period,” he added. The White House also called the reports of rape, torture and abuse “deeply, deeply concerning.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-sexual-abuse-palestinian-prisoners-rcna165811Videos Appear to Show Israeli Soldiers Abusing Bound and Blindfolded Palestinian Detainees"In the most graphic scene, soldiers stand around a group of blindfolded Palestinian men whose hands are tied behind their backs. Most of the detainees are shirtless or completely naked. An Israeli soldier can be seen stomping on the head of one Palestinian man who is on his back, his bound hands covering his face. The man cries out for his mother in Arabic. He is then dragged away, screaming. Another man with a Palestinian accent wails repeatedly in Arabic: “ God, I can’t handle this.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/videos-israeli-soldiers-abuse-palestinian-detainees-rcna123214Israeli government is run by savages...war criminals...no wonder nobody but racists, bigots, war profiteers and abhorrent people/politicians side with it..... Ditto for Hamas sympathizers.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 15, 2024 13:56:20 GMT -8
U.S. Decries Reported Sexual Abuse of Palestinian Prisoners After Graphic Video Aired on Israeli TV“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” Miller said, adding that the reports should be “fully” investigated by the Israeli government. “There ought to be zero tolerance for sexual abuse, rape of any detainee, period,” he added. The White House also called the reports of rape, torture and abuse “deeply, deeply concerning.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-sexual-abuse-palestinian-prisoners-rcna165811Videos Appear to Show Israeli Soldiers Abusing Bound and Blindfolded Palestinian Detainees"In the most graphic scene, soldiers stand around a group of blindfolded Palestinian men whose hands are tied behind their backs. Most of the detainees are shirtless or completely naked. An Israeli soldier can be seen stomping on the head of one Palestinian man who is on his back, his bound hands covering his face. The man cries out for his mother in Arabic. He is then dragged away, screaming. Another man with a Palestinian accent wails repeatedly in Arabic: “ God, I can’t handle this.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/videos-israeli-soldiers-abuse-palestinian-detainees-rcna123214Israeli government is run by savages...war criminals...no wonder nobody but racists, bigots, war profiteers and abhorrent people/politicians side with it..... Ditto for Hamas sympathizers. What an argument.
|
|
|
Post by johneaztec on Aug 15, 2024 14:09:15 GMT -8
Ditto for Hamas sympathizers. What an argument. I don't ramble on like you do, just for show. It's pretty simple. Everything that he listed that he claims the Israeli army is doing to Palestinians, is what Hamas is/has been doing to Israelis. Even you can decipher that, yet probably not.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 15, 2024 14:27:39 GMT -8
I don't ramble on like you do, just for show. It's pretty simple. Everything that he listed that he claims the Israeli army is doing to Palestinians, is what Hamas is/has been doing to Israelis. Even you can decipher that, yet probably not. Yeah, I don't do anything om the Internet for show.... Impressing strangers really isn't my forte. Where's your sources? Also, uh, two wrongs not making a right here applies.
|
|
|
Post by bnastyaztecs on Aug 15, 2024 15:26:29 GMT -8
U.S. Decries Reported Sexual Abuse of Palestinian Prisoners After Graphic Video Aired on Israeli TV“We have seen the video, and reports of sexual abuse of detainees are horrific,” Miller said, adding that the reports should be “fully” investigated by the Israeli government. “There ought to be zero tolerance for sexual abuse, rape of any detainee, period,” he added. The White House also called the reports of rape, torture and abuse “deeply, deeply concerning.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-sexual-abuse-palestinian-prisoners-rcna165811Videos Appear to Show Israeli Soldiers Abusing Bound and Blindfolded Palestinian Detainees"In the most graphic scene, soldiers stand around a group of blindfolded Palestinian men whose hands are tied behind their backs. Most of the detainees are shirtless or completely naked. An Israeli soldier can be seen stomping on the head of one Palestinian man who is on his back, his bound hands covering his face. The man cries out for his mother in Arabic. He is then dragged away, screaming. Another man with a Palestinian accent wails repeatedly in Arabic: “ God, I can’t handle this.” www.nbcnews.com/news/world/videos-israeli-soldiers-abuse-palestinian-detainees-rcna123214Israeli government is run by savages...war criminals...no wonder nobody but racists, bigots, war profiteers and abhorrent people/politicians side with it..... Ditto for Hamas sympathizers. Newborn Twins Killed in Israel's Offensive in Gaza as Their Dad Went to Get Their Birth Certificates"Mohamed Abu Al-Qomasan waited to collect the birth certificates of his days-old twins, he learned the newborns and his wife had been killed in what local officials and witnesses said was an Israeli strike." " The children he and his wife had welcomed to the world just four days ago had been killed, along with their mother, Joumana Arafa, and the twins' maternal grandmother." www.nbcnews.com/news/world/newborn-twins-gaza-killed-israel-father-birth-certificate-rcna166514john and his ilk approve of killing innocent "would-be" Hamas babies in their cribs....
|
|
|
Post by azson on Aug 15, 2024 16:18:23 GMT -8
The sources you refer to are, to be frank, not reliable. Certainly not reliable with respect to "reporting" on Israel. And I am still waiting for you to comment on Oct. 7th.
AzWm
I think you're mistaking me for Ryan, you never asked me a question re 10/7. However, I made it clear at the outset of this thread (as did most of us who lean left) that I did not condone or support it. Unlike you, I believe terrorism is terrorism, regardless of who commits it.
|
|
|
Post by aztecryan on Aug 15, 2024 16:20:07 GMT -8
The sources you refer to are, to be frank, not reliable. Certainly not reliable with respect to "reporting" on Israel. And I am still waiting for you to comment on Oct. 7th.
AzWm
I think you're mistaking me for Ryan, you never asked me a question re 10/7. However, I made it clear at the outset of this thread (as did most of us who lean left) that I did not condone or support it. Unlike you, I believe terrorism is terrorism, regardless of who commits it. To be fair, William is very busy and we probably look alike.
|
|