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Post by azman on May 11, 2023 18:28:43 GMT -8
There's ZERO chance he wouldn't be starting for us. He was the starting 4 on a NCAA finals team that had an excellent center, never mind a "decent" center. No chance we bench him. Arizona wants him because his game has a lot of strengths, and he's a great fit for their style of offense. They see it, even if some of our own fans can't (which I'll never comprehend). They thrive on pace, lobs, and they need a tough, athletic defender who will do all the little things, just like we could use right now. Not sure what you'd describe as a "big NIL deal", but Arizona doesn't get into bidding wars. They don't offer $100k+ NIL deals. Heck, Dickerson couldn't even get $100k at Michigan, and is barely getting that at Kansas & he's one of the best & most productive players in college hoops. Arizona doesn't even have a NIL collective as good as Kansas. Once again SDCoug speaking like he is an authority on NIL, yet completely incorrect (if you believe Lamont Butler's dad). Lamont Butler Sr. said the family received more than 10 calls from representatives of other schools offering lucrative NIL payments if his son would transfer. “The most was $1 million, a couple $500,000s, a couple $300,000s, a couple $175,000s,” Butler Sr. said. “At the end of the day, most people would jump at that. But I think the Butler family is built just a little differently. I thank God for that, I really do. My son, he wants to be an Aztec. He’s an Aztec for life. Lamont never wanted to go, he just wanted to make sure we were taken care of. So are there just no rules at all when it comes to NIL? Any team can contact any player and offer money, even when the player is not officially in the Portal? This is considered tampering in professional sports. This whole NIL thing is completely ridiculous. It’s the Wild West out there. Thanks for nothing, NCAA!
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Post by jp92grad on May 11, 2023 18:32:36 GMT -8
Once again SDCoug speaking like he is an authority on NIL, yet completely incorrect (if you believe Lamont Butler's dad). Lamont Butler Sr. said the family received more than 10 calls from representatives of other schools offering lucrative NIL payments if his son would transfer. “The most was $1 million, a couple $500,000s, a couple $300,000s, a couple $175,000s,” Butler Sr. said. “At the end of the day, most people would jump at that. But I think the Butler family is built just a little differently. I thank God for that, I really do. My son, he wants to be an Aztec. He’s an Aztec for life. Lamont never wanted to go, he just wanted to make sure we were taken care of. So are there just no rules at all when it comes to NIL? Any team can contact any player and offer money, even when the player is not officially in the Portal? This is considered tampering in professional sports. This whole NIL thing is completely ridiculous. It’s the Wild West out there. Thanks for nothing, NCAA! YEP!Sorry oh Mighty Oracle, let me redo that. YES!
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Post by Gundo on May 11, 2023 21:22:12 GMT -8
Reported that Kentucky only has 3 returning players.
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Post by jp92grad on May 11, 2023 22:28:02 GMT -8
Reported that Kentucky only has 3 returning players. We Coming! Coach Prime moved over to basketball?
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Post by hoobs on May 12, 2023 2:18:51 GMT -8
Once again SDCoug speaking like he is an authority on NIL, yet completely incorrect (if you believe Lamont Butler's dad). Lamont Butler Sr. said the family received more than 10 calls from representatives of other schools offering lucrative NIL payments if his son would transfer. “The most was $1 million, a couple $500,000s, a couple $300,000s, a couple $175,000s,” Butler Sr. said. “At the end of the day, most people would jump at that. But I think the Butler family is built just a little differently. I thank God for that, I really do. My son, he wants to be an Aztec. He’s an Aztec for life. Lamont never wanted to go, he just wanted to make sure we were taken care of. So are there just no rules at all when it comes to NIL? Any team can contact any player and offer money, even when the player is not officially in the Portal? This is considered tampering in professional sports. This whole NIL thing is completely ridiculous. It’s the Wild West out there. Thanks for nothing, NCAA! Well, there are sort of rules. In the case of NIL, schools don't pay them... private groups do (because there *is* a rule that schools can't be involved in NIL deals in any way). So these private groups are the ones contacting players / families, and there are no rules in that case. The NCAA has catastrophically forsaken any responsibility to put reasonable guardrails around NIL.
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Post by standiego on May 12, 2023 8:17:02 GMT -8
First congrats to Keshad for being the First member of his family to Graduate College - in 4 years not that easy for a student athlete
now he is going to do what is best for him and his family - would hope that wherever he goes it has a decent Grad program or NIL or ....
Kentucky may have only 3 returning players but they are also actively recruiting some other highly rated players in the Portal and will continue to do so - the fortunate thing could be that if he chooses a school he could have the ability to flip to another unless he registers for summer school there
Select a coach that might tell you the truth but know most P6 coaches know it is winning that means the most to them and their school . Early lessons about business
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Post by beadle on May 12, 2023 8:37:30 GMT -8
First congrats to Keshad for being the First member of his family to Graduate College - in 4 years not that easy for a student athlete ^^^This! He will likely have some opportunity in Europe but basketball life is short, nice to see him setting himself up well for the short term (NIL, overseas) and the long term.
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Post by standiego on May 12, 2023 9:12:08 GMT -8
correct might be important that whatever school he chooses has a good Masters program to fall back on
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Post by sdcoug on May 13, 2023 11:04:28 GMT -8
What does Lamont's quote have to do with Dickerson or Arizona? Dickerson SAID what he received. If you think he's a liar that's up to you. If you think Arizona offers major NIL deals that's also false according to those closest to the program. Much less than what Dickerson said he got at Michigan. As for Lamont being offered $1M/$500k, I'd like to see the details on that. His dad literally said those big numbers were offered. You don’t believe him? What would be the point of lying or embellishing those numbers when he said Lamont won’t be transferring? It’s not like he is trying to get his son a better deal and our NIL is set in stone. As this relates to Dickinson, if Lamont is getting offers of $500k+ then Dickinson is getting more than that. Those $2 mil rumors for him seem way more realistic now after hearing the numbers Lamont has been offered. Lots of NIL money floating around and we just can’t compete with it. As I said yesterday, it’s comical if you think he left for $10k more. It was simply an example of regular people moving jobs for more money. I didn't say he didn't hear those numbers, but the devil is in the details. There have been MANY players who hear numbers during the recruiting phase only to hear different numbers when it gets down to it. Players have backed out of commitments due to promises not being fulfilled (Wyoming just lost a player due to that). There are often stipulations involve, or milestones. If he had a legitimate $1M offer I think they take it, no matter what the level of loyalty. But I'd guess they saw it more as an enticement to enter the portal than a realistic offer. The million dollar club isn't as big as you tend to think it is. I'll tend to believe the coaches talking about it, or the players who actually come out & say what they actually got over rumors & innuendo. There's a big difference between hearing "you have the potential to earn...." and we will pay you....
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Post by Gundo on May 16, 2023 23:32:18 GMT -8
This man is getting his 15 Minutes of Fame and will announce his college decision on Saturday. I think its UK.
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Post by Gundo on May 16, 2023 23:36:35 GMT -8
This man is getting his 15 Minutes of Fame and will announce his college decision on Saturday. I think its UK. “It was a really great visit, everything was top-notch. It’s Kentucky basketball, you know?” he told KSR. “Everything about it was first class. Coach Cal was amazing and I think we both were really honored to meet him, be able to talk to him. It was a great time from a basketball standpoint, we love their style of play. I think Keshad — we can envision him being really good in that style of play.” Here's the full article: www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/keshad-johnson-sets-commitment-date-coming-off-top-notch-visit-to-kentucky/
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Post by docmm on May 17, 2023 6:11:21 GMT -8
Does that mean we'll get one of Kentucky's draft choices as compensation?
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Post by sdmotohead on May 17, 2023 7:05:44 GMT -8
I'm excited that it's (potentially) Kentucky that's excited about getting an Aztec transfer. Usually we're the one excited about getting a P5 transfer.
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Post by standiego on May 17, 2023 7:24:46 GMT -8
maybe Kentucky or the winner of the Keshad sweepstakes could schedule a future game against the Aztecs
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Post by ignoranus on May 17, 2023 7:54:01 GMT -8
This opportunity really shows off the abilities of the Aztec coaching staff to recruit a player considered to be "raw" and coach him up to the point where Major D1 programs are vying for the chance to pay him some serious CASH to play for one year on their teams.
Kudos to our coaches!!
Hopefully, other high school players are seeing the value created by the Aztec coaches for their players and realizing that these coaches can improve their "games" to the degree that such doors of opportunity can be opened for them in the future, IF they become an Aztec!
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Post by aztec619 on May 17, 2023 9:36:14 GMT -8
maybe Kentucky or the winner of the Keshad sweepstakes could schedule a future game against the Aztecs lol, not laughing at you Stan but man you come up with some interesting ideas! First throwing out the first pitch for recruits at Padre games, then a million questions to Paul or anyone else. Now us scheduling games with Kentucky if they get Keshad.
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Post by aztech on May 17, 2023 10:06:57 GMT -8
This man is getting his 15 Minutes of Fame and will announce his college decision on Saturday. I think its UK. “It was a really great visit, everything was top-notch. It’s Kentucky basketball, you know?” he told KSR. “Everything about it was first class. Coach Cal was amazing and I think we both were really honored to meet him, be able to talk to him. It was a great time from a basketball standpoint, we love their style of play. I think Keshad — we can envision him being really good in that style of play.” Here's the full article: www.on3.com/teams/kentucky-wildcats/news/keshad-johnson-sets-commitment-date-coming-off-top-notch-visit-to-kentucky/If KJ does decide to go there, then it'll be interesting to see how much his scoring increases. Especially from the perimeter.
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Post by rockshow on May 17, 2023 10:24:13 GMT -8
I would be very surprised if Keshad doesn't have a pretty high level impact on whatever teams he ends up on.
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Post by azteccc on May 17, 2023 11:30:31 GMT -8
If KJ does decide to go there, then it'll be interesting to see how much his scoring increases changes. Especially from the perimeter. Agreed.
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Post by DeeMoney on May 17, 2023 12:25:30 GMT -8
Once again SDCoug speaking like he is an authority on NIL, yet completely incorrect (if you believe Lamont Butler's dad). Lamont Butler Sr. said the family received more than 10 calls from representatives of other schools offering lucrative NIL payments if his son would transfer. “The most was $1 million, a couple $500,000s, a couple $300,000s, a couple $175,000s,” Butler Sr. said. “At the end of the day, most people would jump at that. But I think the Butler family is built just a little differently. I thank God for that, I really do. My son, he wants to be an Aztec. He’s an Aztec for life. Lamont never wanted to go, he just wanted to make sure we were taken care of. So are there just no rules at all when it comes to NIL? Any team can contact any player and offer money, even when the player is not officially in the Portal? This is considered tampering in professional sports. This whole NIL thing is completely ridiculous. It’s the Wild West out there. Thanks for nothing, NCAA! Couple things: 1) Team's do not offer NIL money, NIL is nothing more than allowing amateur athletes to get paid by outside sources for sharing their name, image, or likeness. The NCAA has no jurisdiction over that. If McDonalds wants to pay Drew Timme 500K to do a commercial for them, then he is now allowed to accept that. If McDonalds wants to pay him to do a commercial for them, but ONLY if he transfers to Duke they can do that. But that isn't Duke doing anything, ergo its outside of the NCAA's control. 2) Why is anyone against NIL? A few years back all I heard was complaints about athletes not getting paid their fair share; the whole starving student athlete nonsense (which was a farce but I digress). Now, athletes are getting paid a ton. On the other end of the spectrum, were those who support a free market capitalist system; doesn't get much more free market than the Wild West situation we got going on here.
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