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Post by vision on Mar 21, 2023 15:14:26 GMT -8
I hate to add this the 350+ PAC12 pages....but How would SDSU do in the PAC11+ with basketball? Would we be a pre-season top pick to finish first like we usually are in MWC? Probably not, ARIZONA, STANFORD and maybe Oregon might be ranked ahead of us maybe others. I guess I am asking if SDSU would still be what we are now when we are in the PAC12? Not to say I don't want a chance at it...just wondering. I wonder if the AZTECS might lose their identity.
TRADITION never graduates.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Mar 21, 2023 15:22:39 GMT -8
State is the 2nd best program in the P12 (😉)
Depending on who comes back and what happens in the Portal… State would be in the Top 3 going into fall of 2023.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Mar 21, 2023 15:23:56 GMT -8
The only team I see us consistently behind is Arizona
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Post by docmm on Mar 21, 2023 15:29:43 GMT -8
Oregon is having a down year but still doing well in the NIT. They're always good and they have bottomless wallets. But we'd be level with or above everyone else.
I think we'd be middle of the pack in football for a while. Hopefully, we'd get a new coach and start to rise up that ladder too.
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Post by aztecking on Mar 21, 2023 15:48:27 GMT -8
Arizona is #1 and us and Oregon would be 2a and 2b.
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Post by aztecfred on Mar 21, 2023 15:50:53 GMT -8
What about the Big? Just let us find out!
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Post by twobits on Mar 21, 2023 15:56:36 GMT -8
We'd be in a battle for #2 most likely behind Arizona at first...it'd be interesting to see if we could climb even higher with some top recruits if we went to the Pac. We'd need to up our NIL game too though.
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Post by azteccc on Mar 21, 2023 15:58:30 GMT -8
Arizona is #1 and us and Oregon would be 2a and 2b. This^ Year to year, we’d have ups and downs. Ups being challenging for/possibly winning the conference, downs being middle of the pack. Most years a tournament team, with a much easier path to a high seed. Arizona would be the only program in the conference I would admit inferiority to in year one. We’d be right there with Oregon, ASU, and Utah, and I’d say rarely if ever fourth in that group. Washington and Colorado would occasionally field teams that are as good as ours some years. All the PAC teams put together legit teams every couple years, besides maybe WSU, OSU, and Cal (lately). We’d be in a tougher conference, but there is absolutely no reason to believe our recruiting wouldn’t dramatically improve as well. If you remove the P5 argument (and associated $) schools have against us, there aren’t very many reasons not to consider coming to SDSU to play basketball. |
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Post by jp92grad on Mar 21, 2023 16:22:11 GMT -8
You also need to add in there would not be any road trip issues to worry about, that is no elevation games to plan for or recover from.
Still will have typical road trip issues to deal with but most of the PAC are easy in and out games not to far from airports (SMU ?)
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Post by standiego on Mar 21, 2023 16:42:20 GMT -8
There have still been some HS and College Transfers that do not even want to consider Non P6 schools . So If and when that changes and also how quickly I would guess that Dutcher will be able to recruit even better recruits -
P5 money for a variety of things would also increase including travel and other fringe benefits
Also as we all know Aztecs have lost assistant coaches because gotten more money to go to a P5 school . Plus some additional money for Dutcher and some additional money for recruiting - think Aztec coaches have had to sometimes travel by cost effective ways - that should improve
So think that even though the basketball team has been better then some of the mid to lower level PAC schools it could also the gap between SDSU and the Arizona's ..
The Big 12 has numerous very good teams and also have some longer Road trips - especially WVU , UCF , Cincy , possibly ISU but if there is money to fly there and back could make it easier .
But would think Dutcher would greatly appreciate the challenge
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Post by Boise Aztec on Mar 21, 2023 16:54:16 GMT -8
You also need to add in there would not be any road trip issues to worry about, that is no elevation games to plan for or recover from. Still will have typical road trip issues to deal with but most of the PAC are easy in and out games not to far from airports (SMU ?) Salt Lake City and Boulder |
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Post by standiego on Mar 21, 2023 17:32:14 GMT -8
most of the current PAC schools are in the same time zone or maybe MT time - similar to the MW
SMU might be 2 hours different and there are numerous flights to Dallas
Sure beats some of the Road trips to MW schools
If Aztecs were to get into the Big 12 then you can get the longer road trips to UCF , WVU , Cincy , not sure about ISU or the Kansas school
As for identity of the Aztecs - doubt if Dutcher would change things on or off the court but it sure could help paying coaches , facilities etc for players , plane rides and of course recruiting would get even better
Basketball only has 5 players on the court and maybe 13 scholarships - so think that is much easier to move up then football - where you have offense , defense , special teams is it 80 players ?
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Post by jp92grad on Mar 21, 2023 17:42:31 GMT -8
You also need to add in there would not be any road trip issues to worry about, that is no elevation games to plan for or recover from. Still will have typical road trip issues to deal with but most of the PAC are easy in and out games not to far from airports (SMU ?) Salt Lake City (4600 feet) and Boulder (5400 feet) Air Force (7200 feet) and Wyoming (7200 feet) CSU (5000 feet), UNM (5100 feet) UNR (4500 feet) |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Mar 21, 2023 17:46:07 GMT -8
Salt Lake City (4600 feet) and Boulder (5400 feet) Air Force (7200 feet) and Wyoming (7200 feet) CSU (5000 feet), UNM (5100 feet) UNR (4500 feet) Yep… only 2 per year instead of 5…. but still will have elevation games |
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Post by junior on Mar 21, 2023 17:55:17 GMT -8
The only team I see us consistently behind is Arizona If SDSU were to end up in Pac12, I think this would change rapidly. The only reason they're consistently behind Arizona is that recruits want the P5 experience and glamor. If the court is leveled, SDSU should soon be seeing a greater variety of promising prospects every season. Arizona would be competing - for the first time, maybe - for the same level of talent. f-UCLA and U$¢ will unfortunately still hoover up the top level of talent. But SDSU moves closer to the top. |
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Post by jp92grad on Mar 21, 2023 18:00:57 GMT -8
Air Force (7200 feet) and Wyoming (7200 feet) CSU (5000 feet), UNM (5100 feet) UNR (4500 feet) Yep… only 2 per year instead of 5…. but still will have elevation games The 2 higher elevation games really screw things up for basketball in planning and scheduling games just prior and or after in regards to recovery, football is bad just not as bad as basketball. The others around 5000 feet just make for a less then optimal performance gameday (kinda shity day, but doable) |
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Post by sancarlosaztec on Mar 21, 2023 18:21:50 GMT -8
I think the first few years will be rough. I'd say middle to mid upper tier. After that we should be able to compete most years for the top spot. It isn't the same playing a conference schedule of PAC 12 teams as the team experiences today. Yes, our team can complete with the PAC schools 2-4 times a year now. I think it will be different once we are playing 18 PAC 12 conference games.
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Post by Texaz on Mar 21, 2023 19:21:34 GMT -8
You also need to add in there would not be any road trip issues to worry about, that is no elevation games to plan for or recover from. Still will have typical road trip issues to deal with but most of the PAC are easy in and out games not to far from airports (SMU ?) SMU is about 4 miles east of Love Field on Mockingbird Ln. |
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Post by AzTex on Mar 21, 2023 21:21:47 GMT -8
You also need to add in there would not be any road trip issues to worry about, that is no elevation games to plan for or recover from. Still will have typical road trip issues to deal with but most of the PAC are easy in and out games not to far from airports ( SMU ?) Salt Lake City and Boulder SMU is 22 minutes from DFW per Google. About the same as Snapdragon to SAN. |
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Post by fisherville on Mar 21, 2023 21:42:18 GMT -8
Edit: i’m dumb and had a brain fart
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