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Post by The Aztec Panther on Feb 25, 2023 10:17:16 GMT -8
Everyone at Fox knew and firmly believed that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 Presidential election.
And yet they broadcast hundreds of stories telling the opposite, even using, "Sources," that they knew were ridiculous just to have something to say that fit their agenda (which was to help Trump get the election overturned and turn the public against Biden).
I know the conservatives around here hate MSNBC, and there is no doubt that they do lean fairly far left. HOWEVER, this report is VERY well done, and gives an accurate picture of what happened and what's going on as Dominion is suing Fox for defamation. Turns out, Fox really did know that the election was valid, and tha that the Dominion systems were secure and accurate.
Fox News has become nothing but the propoganda wing for the far right of the Republican party.
Watch this all the way through if you don't believe that.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Feb 25, 2023 10:37:10 GMT -8
Hannity on the idea that the election had been, "Stolen," from Trump...
"I did not believe it for one second."
And yet he spent hundreds of hours telling his viewers that the election WAS stolen.
FOX NEWS = FAKE NEWS
(Tucker Carlson is even worse than Hannity, by the way, and the actual, "News," producers care little for facts unless they meet the Fox News agenda.)
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 25, 2023 10:42:37 GMT -8
Wait until you hear Tulsi Gabbard talk about Biden's cabinet diversity being "like Hitler."
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 25, 2023 13:41:17 GMT -8
without even hearing what the right wingers on this Board will say...let me anticipate "what about Hunter Biden"?. In other words, they will swallow $#!+ all day long, as long as the $#!+ is being fed to them by "their people". We are not in "Idiocracy" anymore...we are in the sequel.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Feb 25, 2023 14:13:08 GMT -8
without even hearing what the right wingers on this Board will say...let me anticipate "what about Hunter Biden"?. In other words, they will swallow $#!+ all day long, as long as the $#!+ is being fed to them by "their people". We are not in "Idiocracy" anymore...we are in the sequel. That's the thing - there is now EVIDENCE, documents in their own words that Fox News KNEW they were peddling bull$#!+, supporting a coup attempt, and fomenting an insurrection. They KNEW it. They talked about it among themselves - and then went on camera and knowingly LIED to their viewers. Anyone who takes Fox News seriously as a, "News," source after this evidence has come to life is a fool. Fox News is anti-democratic and anti-facts. They are a propoganda organization, not a news source.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 25, 2023 14:43:29 GMT -8
without even hearing what the right wingers on this Board will say...let me anticipate "what about Hunter Biden"?. In other words, they will swallow $#!+ all day long, as long as the $#!+ is being fed to them by "their people". We are not in "Idiocracy" anymore...we are in the sequel. That's the thing - there is now EVIDENCE, documents in their own words that Fox News KNEW they were peddling bull$#!+, supporting a coup attempt, and fomenting an insurrection. They KNEW it. They talked about it among themselves - and then went on camera and knowingly LIED to their viewers. Anyone who takes Fox News seriously as a, "News," source after this evidence has come to life is a fool. Fox News is anti-democratic and anti-facts. They are a propoganda organization, not a news source. This is the part that is sad. This will have zero effects on that audience. Tucker Carlson could go on a one-week onslaught (including fancy graphics) that the moon landing was faked, and he'd get minimum 50% of them going for it. I know we know the answer, but do you think he respects MTG even a tiny bit more than a gopher? Of course not, he's using her to make money from the candy from a baby crowd. Trump had this crowd down..that's the reason he knew he could get away with anything...and not lose any followers. If I was evil, I could make huge bank off these people. I know the talking points and the hot buttons in my sleep...not saying you couldn't do it as well.
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Post by aardvark on Feb 25, 2023 23:58:16 GMT -8
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Post by ptsdthor on Feb 26, 2023 6:54:25 GMT -8
Everyone at Fox knew and firmly believed that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 Presidential election. And yet they broadcast hundreds of stories telling the opposite, even using, "Sources," that they knew were ridiculous just to have something to say that fit their agenda (which was to help Trump get the election overturned and turn the public against Biden). I know the conservatives around here hate MSNBC, and there is no doubt that they do lean fairly far left. HOWEVER, this report is VERY well done, and gives an accurate picture of what happened and what's going on as Dominion is suing Fox for defamation. Turns out, Fox really did know that the election was valid, and tha that the Dominion systems were secure and accurate. Fox News has become nothing but the propoganda wing for the far right of the Republican party. Watch this all the way through if you don't believe that. The Hunter Biden laptop being a Russian plant fake news is childsplay. "I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election," James Clapper while under oath. Nobody ever saw evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. Nobody. So please tell us how many months, and even years, did the Democrat media complex (~NYT, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC) push that knowingly false narrative for the sake of maintaining ratings with their True Believer audience? Give an honest answer for that and it will help frame the discussion about Fox's part in pushing fake news for their audience.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 26, 2023 7:54:49 GMT -8
Everyone at Fox knew and firmly believed that Joe Biden legitimately won the 2020 Presidential election. And yet they broadcast hundreds of stories telling the opposite, even using, "Sources," that they knew were ridiculous just to have something to say that fit their agenda (which was to help Trump get the election overturned and turn the public against Biden). I know the conservatives around here hate MSNBC, and there is no doubt that they do lean fairly far left. HOWEVER, this report is VERY well done, and gives an accurate picture of what happened and what's going on as Dominion is suing Fox for defamation. Turns out, Fox really did know that the election was valid, and tha that the Dominion systems were secure and accurate. Fox News has become nothing but the propoganda wing for the far right of the Republican party. Watch this all the way through if you don't believe that. The Hunter Biden laptop being a Russian plant fake news is childsplay. "I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election," James Clapper while under oath. Nobody ever saw evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. Nobody. So please tell us how many months, and even years, did the Democrat media complex (~NYT, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC) push that knowingly false narrative for the sake of maintaining ratings with their True Believer audience? Give an honest answer for that and it will help frame the discussion about Fox's part in pushing fake news for their audience. Read the Mueller Report much? Imagine trying to vindicate Fox News....lol.
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Post by ptsdthor on Feb 26, 2023 8:15:33 GMT -8
The Hunter Biden laptop being a Russian plant fake news is childsplay. "I never saw any direct empirical evidence that the Trump campaign or someone in it was plotting/conspiring with the Russians to meddle with the election," James Clapper while under oath. Nobody ever saw evidence that Trump colluded with Russia. Nobody. So please tell us how many months, and even years, did the Democrat media complex (~NYT, WaPo, CNN and MSNBC) push that knowingly false narrative for the sake of maintaining ratings with their True Believer audience? Give an honest answer for that and it will help frame the discussion about Fox's part in pushing fake news for their audience. Read the Mueller Report much? Imagine trying to vindicate Fox News....lol. The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities". Imagine indeed!
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 26, 2023 9:45:20 GMT -8
Read the Mueller Report much? Imagine trying to vindicate Fox News....lol. The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities". Imagine indeed! Eric Trump quote 2014 "we have all the funding we need out of Russia" Trump in front of the World takes Putin's word over our own intelligence agencies..not to mention Manafort...I know ..nothing to see here. And, just admit that you still beleive what Hannity and Carlson are feeding you.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Feb 26, 2023 10:49:33 GMT -8
Like I said, only a fool believes Fox News legitimately broadcasts the news in a factual manner after this evidence has come out.
PRIVATELY they were all talking among themselves about how much B.S. Trump was spewing, and how he and his people were nuts to try that stuff. PUBLICLY, ON AIR, they were saying how Trump's claims were valid, and how the election was stolen.
They knew it wasn't. They admitted it among themselves. And then they said something completely opposite of that on air to meet their political agenda.
They knowingly and intentionally broadcast false reports to manipulate the public.
That makes Fox News a propoganda wing of the far right of the Republican Party. Nothing more, nothing less.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 26, 2023 11:21:41 GMT -8
Read the Mueller Report much? Imagine trying to vindicate Fox News....lol. The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities". Imagine indeed! ....Bill Barr.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 27, 2023 18:28:48 GMT -8
Now Murdoch is admitting that his hosts knowingly pushed a completely false narrative that the election was stolen. Geeze, you could get somebody killed pushing that $#!+! Wonder what TDSthor has to say about this?... oh that's right... Hunter Biden....
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Post by ptsdthor on Feb 27, 2023 21:28:59 GMT -8
Now Murdoch is admitting that his hosts knowingly pushed a completely false narrative that the election was stolen. Geeze, you could get somebody killed pushing that $#!+! Wonder what TDSthor has to say about this?... oh that's right... Hunter Biden.... The other poster didn't seem to have it. Perhaps you can tell us...how many months and years did the Democrat MSM push the obviously false Russia Collusion hoax? Can't do it either? And now we have the Wuhan wet market fake news making headlines. Anyone with any brains knew the actions of the CCP after the initial outbreak reeked of obvious guilt - lying about trasmissability, denying access to international investigations, disappearing Chinese scientists, scrubbed web sites, withholding Covid sickness stats, disinformation opps (See Ft. Detrick), etc. People died because of their actions - millions. And did you see all the cringe worthy Democrat MSM hosts and newspapers slam Trump, Sen Cotton, and whoever rightly called out the CCP? They offered little to no pushback on the CCP or the International and US Gov organizations (and their employees) with primary responsibility and did almost nothing to get to the facts of the leak. All were only too willing to push the fake wet market narrative and to attack anyone who questioned that phony narrative. If not for TDS, why? And are you going to tell us that you don't watch the lying and complicit CNN, MSNBC, the 3 Networks, listen to PBS, have Google feed you NY Times & WaPo bs? Right.. I'm glad you are over the moon with the problems of Fox's reporting just after the most popular Joe Biden's victory. Enjoy it while you can.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Feb 27, 2023 22:15:20 GMT -8
Now Murdoch is admitting that his hosts knowingly pushed a completely false narrative that the election was stolen. Geeze, you could get somebody killed pushing that $#!+! Wonder what TDSthor has to say about this?... oh that's right... Hunter Biden.... The other poster didn't seem to have it. Perhaps you can tell us...how many months and years did the Democrat MSM push the obviously false Russia Collusion hoax? Can't do it either? Myth: Mueller found “no collusion.” Response: Mueller spent almost 200 pages describing “numerous links between the Russian government and the Trump Campaign.” He found that “a Russian entity carried out a social media campaign that favored presidential candidate Donald J. Trump and disparaged presidential candidate Hillary Clinton.” He also found that “ a Russian intelligence service conducted computer-intrusion operations” against the Clinton campaign and then released stolen documents. While Mueller was unable to establish a conspiracy between members of the Trump campaign and the Russians involved in this activity, he made it clear that “ statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts.” In fact, Mueller also wrote that the “investigation established that the Russian government perceived it would benefit from a Trump presidency and worked to secure that outcome, and that the Campaign expected it would benefit electorally from information stolen and released through Russian efforts.” One of the underlying criminal offenses that Mueller reviewed for conspiracy was campaign-finance violations. Mueller found that Trump campaign members Donald Trump Jr., Paul Manafort and Jared Kushner met with Russian nationals in Trump Tower in New York June 2016 for the purpose of receiving disparaging information about Clinton as part of “Russia and its government’s support for Mr. Trump,” according to an email message arranging the meeting. Sorry, there was a ton of evidence of collusion. Mueller came, 'This close,' to referring the case for charges. He said it needed to be investigated further because there was so much evidence, just not quite enough to warrant his recommendation of charges. But, again, he did say that others should investigate to see if they thought charges should be filed. So just stop with the, "There was no Russian collusion," crap. There was. There was evidence of the Russians working to help the Trump campaign in 2016. A significant amount of evidence. CNN reporting about that evidence wasn't, "Fake news," like Fox reporting that the 2020 election had been stolen and there was fraud when THEIR OWN PEOPLE KNEW NO FRAUD EXISTED AND THE ELECTION WASN'T STOLEN. They knew one thing to be fact, and reported the opposite to promote a political outcome that they preferred, even though it would be based in part on their own fraud. There's a world of difference there. And if you're to politically biased and brainwashed to see it, that's just sad.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 27, 2023 22:40:14 GMT -8
Now Murdoch is admitting that his hosts knowingly pushed a completely false narrative that the election was stolen. Geeze, you could get somebody killed pushing that $#!+! Wonder what TDSthor has to say about this?... oh that's right... Hunter Biden.... The other poster didn't seem to have it. Perhaps you can tell us...how many months and years did the Democrat MSM push the obviously false Russia Collusion hoax? Can't do it either? And now we have the Wuhan wet market fake news making headlines. Anyone with any brains knew the actions of the CCP after the initial outbreak reeked of obvious guilt - lying about trasmissability, denying access to international investigations, disappearing Chinese scientists, scrubbed web sites, withholding Covid sickness stats, disinformation opps (See Ft. Detrick), etc. People died because of their actions - millions. And did you see all the cringe worthy Democrat MSM hosts and newspapers slam Trump, Sen Cotton, and whoever rightly called out the CCP? They offered little to no pushback on the CCP or the International and US Gov organizations (and their employees) with primary responsibility and did almost nothing to get to the facts of the leak. All were only too willing to push the fake wet market narrative and to attack anyone who questioned that phony narrative. If not for TDS, why? And are you going to tell us that you don't watch the lying and complicit CNN, MSNBC, the 3 Networks, listen to PBS, have Google feed you NY Times & WaPo bs? Right.. I'm glad you are over the moon with the problems of Fox's reporting just after the most popular Joe Biden's victory. Enjoy it while you can. I'm right here. I already corrected you once. Russian collusion with Trump was not a hoax. I'm sorry you don't have the ability to read basic text from the Senate. No need to engage your lunacy.
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Post by uwphoto on Feb 28, 2023 3:14:27 GMT -8
Now Murdoch is admitting that his hosts knowingly pushed a completely false narrative that the election was stolen. Geeze, you could get somebody killed pushing that $#!+! Wonder what TDSthor has to say about this?... oh that's right... Hunter Biden.... The other poster didn't seem to have it. Perhaps you can tell us...how many months and years did the Democrat MSM push the obviously false Russia Collusion hoax? Can't do it either? And now we have the Wuhan wet market fake news making headlines. Anyone with any brains knew the actions of the CCP after the initial outbreak reeked of obvious guilt - lying about trasmissability, denying access to international investigations, disappearing Chinese scientists, scrubbed web sites, withholding Covid sickness stats, disinformation opps (See Ft. Detrick), etc. People died because of their actions - millions. And did you see all the cringe worthy Democrat MSM hosts and newspapers slam Trump, Sen Cotton, and whoever rightly called out the CCP? They offered little to no pushback on the CCP or the International and US Gov organizations (and their employees) with primary responsibility and did almost nothing to get to the facts of the leak. All were only too willing to push the fake wet market narrative and to attack anyone who questioned that phony narrative. If not for TDS, why? And are you going to tell us that you don't watch the lying and complicit CNN, MSNBC, the 3 Networks, listen to PBS, have Google feed you NY Times & WaPo bs? Right.. I'm glad you are over the moon with the problems of Fox's reporting just after the most popular Joe Biden's victory. Enjoy it while you can. hahaha...the troll gets trolled! Right wingers weren't complaining when they were paying cheap prices for 90% Chinese goods, including farmed shrimp, catfish and tilapia for years at Walmart. In fact they love Walmart...I didn't go in ..and still don't. I see trump had a Chinese bank account when he was president, and his daughter had a lot of patents there...CCP indeed!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2023 19:54:47 GMT -8
I’m sorta confused.
For years, liberals have gone with “oh you must be watching Fox News as your source” as if we didn’t know there was mega BS spewing outta there. I mean, does anyone with a modest or better IQ take Tucker Carlson seriously?
Now the faux outrage over this?
Interesting.
Sadly, the old days of respectable TV news has mostly gone. You’ll find slanted garbage on many a station, Fox is just more despised by many and has a bigger audience.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 28, 2023 20:18:05 GMT -8
I’m sorta confused. For years, liberals have gone with “oh you must be watching Fox News as your source” as if we didn’t know there was mega BS spewing outta there. I mean, does anyone with a modest or better IQ take Tucker Carlson seriously? Now the faux outrage over this? Interesting. Sadly, the old days of respectable TV news has mostly gone. You’ll find slanted garbage on many a station, Fox is just more despised by many and has a bigger audience. There's spew on both sides. It gets really old.
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