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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Nov 20, 2022 16:17:57 GMT -8
Like??? Japan?? Germany?? All of Latin America Afghanistan Afghanistan was controlled by the Taliban prior to 911 and is still controlled by the Taliban. Last I checked the US has no colonies in Central or south America. There were free countries to choose their own destiny, some like Venezuela chose poorly
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Post by AZTEC4LIFE1992 on Nov 20, 2022 16:21:13 GMT -8
No, but let’s talk about those vaccine mandates. Who knows the experimental vaccine i was forced to take to work soo I didn’t get COVID or spread COVID even though the vaccine was never tested against transmission! And now we find out the vaccines don’t stop you from getting COVID or transmitting COVID Perhaps you should have just injected Clorox bleach into your body? We have also 'found out' that complications from Covid are generally minimal for those who are vaccinated (as opposed to thousands of American deaths per day pre-vaccine). Edit: The CEO of Moderna is stating certain people should get the booster, i.e. the elderly and those at high risk. If you’re not in that group you should not be getting the booster because you’re not at risk I got vaccinated. I then got Covid. Wouldn't have ever known if I hadn't gone to the ER for an unrelated issue. Fake news. Vaccine only last a matter of.6 weeks -12 weeks. Your government knew this and lied to you. Studies show Mask mandates at zero effect. Yet some governments are still requiring them, ask yourself why? Hint it’s not to stop the spread of Covid.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 20, 2022 16:30:18 GMT -8
OK, this will be the place to post discussions about gun ownership rights, necessity or not, etc.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 20, 2022 16:39:02 GMT -8
No, you need it to ensure your liberty. It would be nice if it wasn't so, but history says otherwise. Point of common sense... If the government got to the point where they became authoritarian and fascist, and your liberty was in danger or had already been taken away, having guns in your home would allow you do to NOTHING to ensure your liberty. The only thing having guns gives you the power to do is commit suicide by cop. Period. The police force and military are so much better armed and so much better trained than civilians that there is ZERO POINT ZERO percent chance of being able to stop them if they became corrupt and decided to take your rights away. So, yeah, have your guns for suicide by cop. That's fine. But be prepared for really bad things to continue with school shootings, workplace shootings, public shootings, etc, because it's way too easy for unstable (or just bad) people to get guns.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 20, 2022 16:58:18 GMT -8
No, you need it to ensure your liberty. It would be nice if it wasn't so, but history says otherwise. The excuses we give ourselves to explain away tragedies...
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Post by mySTRAS on Nov 20, 2022 19:30:21 GMT -8
Perhaps you should have just injected Clorox bleach into your body? We have also 'found out' that complications from Covid are generally minimal for those who are vaccinated (as opposed to thousands of American deaths per day pre-vaccine). Edit: The CEO of Moderna is stating certain people should get the booster, i.e. the elderly and those at high risk. If you’re not in that group you should not be getting the booster because you’re not at risk I got vaccinated. I then got Covid. Wouldn't have ever known if I hadn't gone to the ER for an unrelated issue. Fake news. Vaccine only last a matter of.6 weeks -12 weeks. Your government knew this and lied to you. Studies show Mask mandates at zero effect. Yet some governments are still requiring them, ask yourself why? Hint it’s not to stop the spread of Covid. Yes, my own personal experience is... fake news, as you so eloquently put it. Chronic health conditions put me at heightened risk for Covid complications... and yet... absolutely nothing. I'll credit it to the vaccine. Or is our government, and the world at large, all in on the hoax? Wait a minute... there never was a worldwide pandemic! My best friend, an ER doctor, was in on the hoax as well! Holy $hit, Batman! People better start looking at the pizza-loving, Democratic pedophile ring as well! My eyes are wide open now! Time to go out and arm myself to the hilt!
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 20, 2022 19:43:09 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 20, 2022 20:00:27 GMT -8
I get the point you're trying to make, but let's not bypass the bigger picture here. LGBTQ rights have been under assault with the fetishizing of guns by the GOP and their far-right supporters. The marginalizing of an entire group of people and the eradication of their safety and civil rights should be the focus here.
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 20, 2022 20:10:45 GMT -8
Well, let's see. When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 2 magazines that featured guns. Outdoor Life and Sports Afield. Both were hunting publications that featured weapons made for hunting. The only people that had hand guns in my neighborhood were law enforcement dads. Every third family or so had a deer rifle or shotgun for birds. Fast forward to the 1990's to early 2000's and there are 30 magazines featuring military style weapons, body armour, and other self protection (against people - not animals!). Add to that the websites dealing in body armor etc. The NRA certainly succeeded in their marketing campaign.. Other advanced countries look at us and can't believe the gun situation here, its like watching Idiocracy and devolution from afar.
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Post by mySTRAS on Nov 20, 2022 20:36:12 GMT -8
Well, let's see. When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 2 magazines that featured guns. Outdoor Life and Sports Afield. Both were hunting publications that featured weapons made for hunting. The only people that had hand guns in my neighborhood were law enforcement dads. Every third family or so had a deer rifle or shotgun for birds. Fast forward to the 1990's to early 2000's and there are 30 magazines featuring military style weapons, body armour, and other self protection (against people - not animals!). Add to that the websites dealing in body armor etc. The NRA certainly succeeded in their marketing campaign.. Other advanced countries look at us and can't believe the gun situation here, its like watching Idiocracy and devolution from afar. At some point in the future... America will fail and fall. But not at the hands of any foreign country/threat. No, we will be undone from within!
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 20, 2022 21:04:28 GMT -8
Well, let's see. When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 2 magazines that featured guns. Outdoor Life and Sports Afield. Both were hunting publications that featured weapons made for hunting. The only people that had hand guns in my neighborhood were law enforcement dads. Every third family or so had a deer rifle or shotgun for birds. Fast forward to the 1990's to early 2000's and there are 30 magazines featuring military style weapons, body armour, and other self protection (against people - not animals!). Add to that the websites dealing in body armor etc. The NRA certainly succeeded in their marketing campaign.. Other advanced countries look at us and can't believe the gun situation here, its like watching Idiocracy and devolution from afar. At some point in the future... America will fail and fall. But not at the hands of any foreign country/threat. No, we will be undone from within! Here we have agreement!
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 20, 2022 21:10:27 GMT -8
No, you need it to ensure your liberty. It would be nice if it wasn't so, but history says otherwise. Point of common sense... If the government got to the point where they became authoritarian and fascist, and your liberty was in danger or had already been taken away, having guns in your home would allow you do to NOTHING to ensure your liberty. The only thing having guns gives you the power to do is commit suicide by cop. Period. The police force and military are so much better armed and so much better trained than civilians that there is ZERO POINT ZERO percent chance of being able to stop them if they became corrupt and decided to take your rights away. So, yeah, have your guns for suicide by cop. That's fine. But be prepared for really bad things to continue with school shootings, workplace shootings, public shootings, etc, because it's way too easy for unstable (or just bad) people to get guns. You realize that we just had a 20 year example of people with small arms resisting the greatest military the world has even Know right?
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 20, 2022 21:15:14 GMT -8
Point of common sense... If the government got to the point where they became authoritarian and fascist, and your liberty was in danger or had already been taken away, having guns in your home would allow you do to NOTHING to ensure your liberty. The only thing having guns gives you the power to do is commit suicide by cop. Period. The police force and military are so much better armed and so much better trained than civilians that there is ZERO POINT ZERO percent chance of being able to stop them if they became corrupt and decided to take your rights away. So, yeah, have your guns for suicide by cop. That's fine. But be prepared for really bad things to continue with school shootings, workplace shootings, public shootings, etc, because it's way too easy for unstable (or just bad) people to get guns. You realize that we just had a 20 year example of people with small arms resisting the greatest military the world has even Know right? ...What?
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 20, 2022 21:34:07 GMT -8
Well, let's see. When I was growing up in the 60's, there were 2 magazines that featured guns. Outdoor Life and Sports Afield. Both were hunting publications that featured weapons made for hunting. The only people that had hand guns in my neighborhood were law enforcement dads. Every third family or so had a deer rifle or shotgun for birds. Fast forward to the 1990's to early 2000's and there are 30 magazines featuring military style weapons, body armour, and other self protection (against people - not animals!). Add to that the websites dealing in body armor etc. The NRA certainly succeeded in their marketing campaign.. Other advanced countries look at us and can't believe the gun situation here, its like watching Idiocracy and devolution from afar. Man, do I miss those days UWPHOTO!!! I had a BB Gun, and a Pellet Gun. We hunted birds. So simple.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Nov 20, 2022 22:19:09 GMT -8
Point of common sense... If the government got to the point where they became authoritarian and fascist, and your liberty was in danger or had already been taken away, having guns in your home would allow you do to NOTHING to ensure your liberty. The only thing having guns gives you the power to do is commit suicide by cop. Period. The police force and military are so much better armed and so much better trained than civilians that there is ZERO POINT ZERO percent chance of being able to stop them if they became corrupt and decided to take your rights away. So, yeah, have your guns for suicide by cop. That's fine. But be prepared for really bad things to continue with school shootings, workplace shootings, public shootings, etc, because it's way too easy for unstable (or just bad) people to get guns. You realize that we just had a 20 year example of people with small arms resisting the greatest military the world has even Know right? So you think that you and your buddies can hold off even a small SWAT unit? Good luck with that.
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 21, 2022 3:55:59 GMT -8
Point of common sense... If the government got to the point where they became authoritarian and fascist, and your liberty was in danger or had already been taken away, having guns in your home would allow you do to NOTHING to ensure your liberty. The only thing having guns gives you the power to do is commit suicide by cop. Period. The police force and military are so much better armed and so much better trained than civilians that there is ZERO POINT ZERO percent chance of being able to stop them if they became corrupt and decided to take your rights away. So, yeah, have your guns for suicide by cop. That's fine. But be prepared for really bad things to continue with school shootings, workplace shootings, public shootings, etc, because it's way too easy for unstable (or just bad) people to get guns. You realize that we just had a 20 year example of people with small arms resisting the greatest military the world has even Know right? 😂 🤣 I mean we did train and arm them well before 20 years ago
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 21, 2022 3:58:22 GMT -8
All of Latin America Afghanistan Afghanistan was controlled by the Taliban prior to 911 and is still controlled by the Taliban. Last I checked the US has no colonies in Central or south America. There were free countries to choose their own destiny, some like Venezuela chose poorly 😂 🤣 Holy f'n crap You are so far out of your element here. You need several classes worth of coursework just to catch you up on basic knowledge of these regions. I can't even reply to you with an educated reply on the subject matter because you don't posses even the baseline knowledge to have a discussion about these regions. You're the child speaking to adults about Santa right now
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Post by sdsustoner on Nov 21, 2022 4:01:50 GMT -8
Yeah...90% home ownership compared to 65% in the US. Their citizens also get health care. Have you read anything outside of US propaganda from the 1970s about China? OK, China is free, good to know. Who has more prisoners despite a smaller population? I'll give ya a hint...the country you feel is the most free in the world
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 21, 2022 6:59:37 GMT -8
OK, China is more free than the US because they have less people in jail. Got it.
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Nov 21, 2022 9:14:16 GMT -8
It is amazing how much more I like some of you before you start talking about politics, guns, life & liberty, etc.
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