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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 18:52:21 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 14, 2022 19:13:15 GMT -8
Defund the police is a misnomer and a poor characterization of police reform that's needed, badly, throughout this country. I guess I'm a moron. I can deal with that.  |
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 14, 2022 19:14:11 GMT -8
You mean the same needs that I brought up in my previous post, and more? Yeah, I agree with you. My guess is that he's not for defending the police, but you'll sure as heck never see him post an article where a cop saved a life. He wants them to look as bad as possible, unfortunately. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 14, 2022 19:25:15 GMT -8
You mean the same needs that I brought up in my previous post, and more? Yeah, I agree with you. My guess is that he's not for defending the police, but you'll sure as heck never see him post an article where a cop saved a life. He wants them to look as bad as possible, unfortunately. Yeah, that's my goal. To make the police look bad. It's not to illustrate a system of broken policies and systemic divide, but to make the police look bad. Talk about living in an information vacuum....lol. Unserious nonsense, per usual. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 19:50:19 GMT -8
Defund the police is a misnomer and a poor characterization of police reform that's needed, badly, throughout this country. I guess I'm a moron. I can deal with that. No, there actually IS a difference between the two. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s your problem — not mine pal. Easy to criticize them until you need them. |
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 14, 2022 20:27:24 GMT -8
Defund the police is a misnomer and a poor characterization of police reform that's needed, badly, throughout this country. I guess I'm a moron. I can deal with that. No, there actually IS a difference between the two. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s your problem — not mine pal. Easy to criticize them until you need them. Yep. I've seen many a video of people shown criticizing the Police, wanting to defund them in any way and saying to let Social Services handle it. Lol, and then showing them in a different video screaming for the Police as they're being harassed or assaulted. Hypocrites. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2022 20:31:59 GMT -8
No, there actually IS a difference between the two. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s your problem — not mine pal. Easy to criticize them until you need them. Yep. I've seen many a video of people shown criticizing the Police, wanting to defund them in any way, and then showing them in a different video screaming for the Police as they're being harassed or assaulted. Hypocrites. It’s actually really, really sad to see what is happening in the cities where basically police can/will only respond to major felonies. It’s scary. I’m 1,000% with police reform (major at that), more state and federal $$ for updated, deep training, etc. But, this is a country that needs law & order and a strong police force. Absolutely essential. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 14, 2022 20:35:50 GMT -8
Defund the police is a misnomer and a poor characterization of police reform that's needed, badly, throughout this country. I guess I'm a moron. I can deal with that. No, there actually IS a difference between the two. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s your problem — not mine pal. Easy to criticize them until you need them. My entire point is that the "Defund the police" platform is more of a propaganda talking point than an actual mandate. Most people don't want to defund as much as they'd like to redistribute money for better, safer alternatives. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 14, 2022 20:43:16 GMT -8
No, there actually IS a difference between the two. If you can’t tell the difference, that’s your problem — not mine pal. Easy to criticize them until you need them. Yep. I've seen many a video of people shown criticizing the Police, wanting to defund them in any way and saying to let Social Services handle it. Lol, and then showing them in a different video screaming for the Police as they're being harassed or assaulted. Hypocrites. Yeah, I'm betting you likely can't produce one, but that's not the point here. Again, nuance. Camden, New Jersey defunded their entire police department. Dissolved it. Corruption was rampant, officers were planting drugs on suspects, erroneous charges were utilized en masse, false reports, perjury, you name it. The result was a 42% drop in violent crimes over seven years. Populations and demographics influence these decisions and it's not a one size fits all solution, but social services plays a vital role in handling key situations that don't improve with a police presence. They are a crucial element in the machine, especially when it comes to things like domestic violence and children. |
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 14, 2022 21:46:48 GMT -8
Yep. I've seen many a video of people shown criticizing the Police, wanting to defund them in any way and saying to let Social Services handle it. Lol, and then showing them in a different video screaming for the Police as they're being harassed or assaulted. Hypocrites. Yeah, I'm betting you likely can't produce one, but that's not the point here. Again, nuance. Camden, New Jersey defunded their entire police department. Dissolved it. Corruption was rampant, officers were planting drugs on suspects, erroneous charges were utilized en masse, false reports, perjury, you name it. The result was a 42% drop in violent crimes over seven years. Populations and demographics influence these decisions and it's not a one size fits all solution, but social services plays a vital role in handling key situations that don't improve with a police presence. They are a crucial element in the machine, especially when it comes to things like domestic violence and children. Oh, wow, that's a super easy one if I only knew how to upload videos here. I've never tried. But, just go to YouTube and type in "BLM wants to defund police, but then asks for police help." It's comical. There's another one where some defund the police protesters felt threatened and they promptly were screaming for police to help them. Hilarious. Hypocrites much??? There's a lot of these types of videos. You can't have it both ways. |
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 14, 2022 21:48:05 GMT -8
Yep. I've seen many a video of people shown criticizing the Police, wanting to defund them in any way, and then showing them in a different video screaming for the Police as they're being harassed or assaulted. Hypocrites. It’s actually really, really sad to see what is happening in the cities where basically police can/will only respond to major felonies. It’s scary. I’m 1,000% with police reform (major at that), more state and federal $$ for updated, deep training, etc. But, this is a country that needs law & order and a strong police force. Absolutely essential. You and I are on the same page here. I have basically voiced the same sentiments. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2022 7:59:36 GMT -8
Defund the police is a misnomer and a poor characterization of police reform that's needed, badly, throughout this country. I guess I'm a moron. I can deal with that. You’re a good man, sir ! |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 27, 2023 9:17:47 GMT -8
Another day, another mass school shooting. An elementary school this time.
When will it end?
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 27, 2023 12:08:16 GMT -8
Another day, another mass school shooting. An elementary school this time. When will it end? Not in America, not in our lifetime ..I'm afraid. |
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 27, 2023 12:09:10 GMT -8
Another day, another mass school shooting. An elementary school this time. When will it end? Not in America, not in our lifetime ..I'm afraid. It's most likely only going to get worse, unfortunately. |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 27, 2023 13:24:05 GMT -8
In January, Tennessee made it lawful for anyone over 18 to open carry fire arms. So, until you enter the school and start your body count .. I guess you wouldn't necessarily draw attention or be stopped prior?? I have grandkids and when I'm visiting, I drop them off at school and pre school. I sometimes notice how easy it would be to hurt those kids if somebody wanted to...not a pleasant thought...but days like today remind me why the thought creeps in.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2023 16:43:56 GMT -8
The biggest failure of politicians.
Stop hiding behind special interests. Do something.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 27, 2023 16:54:31 GMT -8
The biggest failure of politicians. Stop hiding behind special interests. Do something. I fear that the NRA and their campaign influence is too strong to overcome for sensible gun legislation to be promoted. I had an interesting exchange this morning with a family member, hearing all the same excuses. "How are we going to stop a shooter without guns?" (The answer is to limit access to the gun in the first place) "The police were there within 14 minutes." (Well, Cho Seung-Hui killed thirty people at Virginia Tech in nine minutes, so that's comforting for the dead children, I guess) "Need more officers on campuses, right"? (Uvalde had dozens of officers outside who were too afraid to confront the shooter, so that did a lot of good, Parkland similarly had an officer stay outside in the shadows until it was too late)...It circles back to simple realities: Expanded background checks, magazine limits, mental health protocols and provisions, greater accountability across campuses and in homes. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 27, 2023 17:14:25 GMT -8
Ditto, the issue is to reform the police rather than defund the police. What's wrong with "Psych" officers without pistols, tasers and pepper spray??
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 27, 2023 17:16:34 GMT -8
The biggest failure of politicians. Stop hiding behind special pinterests. Do something. They're not hiding, they are squarely in the pockets of the NRA and the gun lobby. JMO |
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