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Post by johneaztec on Dec 6, 2022 9:14:51 GMT -8
Most politicians are corrupt. Some more so than others. Democrats tend to be more corrupt than Republicans. Dems can get away with more shenanigans because they have the news media and social media covering up their corruption. A Republican slips up and they get crucified. The media, in general, is DEFINITELY anti Republican. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2022 9:52:21 GMT -8
Most politicians are corrupt. Some more so than others. Democrats tend to be more corrupt than Republicans. Dems can get away with more shenanigans because they have the news media and social media covering up their corruption. A Republican slips up and they get crucified. No matter how many times you repeat this, it doesn't make it true. You want the receipts? |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2022 10:20:37 GMT -8
Democrats tend to be more corrupt than Republicans. Dems can get away with more shenanigans because they have the news media and social media covering up their corruption. A Republican slips up and they get crucified. No matter how many times you repeat this, it doesn't make it true. You want the receipts? Just in the last half dozen years: Trump directs IRS to audit his enemies. Trump states that all Constitution rules regarding voting should be eliminated, the 2020 election should be redone or he should be declared the winner. Trump admits his role on Truth Social to inciting the insurrection on January 6th. Trump tries to pressure the Secretary of State in Georgia to find enough votes to win him the presidency, tampering with witnesses in the process. Trump investigated for tax fraud in New York. Trump illegally removes items from the White House to take them to his unsecured private residence in Florida, lying on a federal subpoena about returning those documents and tries to pressure the DOJ into a leveraged deal to not prosecute him. Among other Republican criminal activity: Voter fraud, aiding domestic terrorism (Gosar, Biggs, McCarthy, Boebert, Jordan and so on), alleged sex trafficking of minors (Gaetz), obstruction of justice, perjury, extortion, witness tampering and fraud. But yes, tell me about the lawlessness of Democrats. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 6, 2022 12:46:54 GMT -8
Ryan, we are going to have to agree to disagree. Corruption in the Democrat party has been a constant throughout their entire history, it’s practically cliche.
The Democrats are good at mudlaunching and deflecting/ stirring up political controversy. I’ll stop there because I don’t want to upset you.
The Republicans aren’t really good at anything, they promise reform then never follow up. All of the things you list are from an extreme democrat point of view and are basically lib dem accusations without substance.
You give the GOP too much credit. Most of them really don’t have the coconuts for that stuff.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2022 12:56:50 GMT -8
Ryan, we are going to have to agree to disagree. Corruption in the Democrat party has been a constant throughout their entire history, it’s practically cliche. The Democrats are good at mudlaunching and deflecting/ stirring up political controversy. I’ll stop there because I don’t want to upset you. The Republicans aren’t really good at anything, they promise reform then never follow up. All of the things you list are from an extreme democrat point of view and are basically lib dem accusations without substance. You give the GOP too much credit. Most of them really don’t have the coconuts for that stuff. There's nothing to disagree about. You're lying, as per usual. All the stuff I posted is true. As in today the Trump Organization was found guilty on all 17 counts to commit tax fraud in New York. How are you this delusional? Use Google and get your head out of the clouds. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2022 13:04:47 GMT -8
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 6, 2022 17:16:54 GMT -8
Ryan, we are going to have to agree to disagree. Corruption in the Democrat party has been a constant throughout their entire history, it’s practically cliche. The Democrats are good at mudlaunching and deflecting/ stirring up political controversy. I’ll stop there because I don’t want to upset you. The Republicans aren’t really good at anything, they promise reform then never follow up. All of the things you list are from an extreme democrat point of view and are basically lib dem accusations without substance. You give the GOP too much credit. Most of them really don’t have the coconuts for that stuff. There's nothing to disagree about. You're lying, as per usual. All the stuff I posted is true. As in today the Trump Organization was found guilty on all 17 counts to commit tax fraud in New York. How are you this delusional? Use Google and get your head out of the clouds. Much of the stuff you post are political opinion editorials, written by the mainstream media bots of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS ect. These lockstep opinions are generated by the democrat media complex and force fed to political news consumers such as yourself. The key word here is “opinions” and because you agree, you consider these “stories” as truth and people who are skeptical are in your mind “liars.” It used to be that a retraction of a story was unthinkable, but in this day and age it is all too common, which in my opinion has destroyed the credibility of the entire news industry. The recent Twitter releases comprehensively demonstrate this, in that the liberal news editors who decide which news story gets aired and which gets buried or ignored have a definitive left leaning agenda. Why should I trust these people? They can’t get their facts straight AND they bury stories (like the Hunter Biden laptop) which go against their political agenda. It’s actually fiendishly brilliant, but I’m not buying the cr@p. |
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 6, 2022 18:41:53 GMT -8
There's nothing to disagree about. You're lying, as per usual. All the stuff I posted is true. As in today the Trump Organization was found guilty on all 17 counts to commit tax fraud in New York. How are you this delusional? Use Google and get your head out of the clouds. Much of the stuff you post are political opinion editorials, written by the mainstream media bots of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS ect. These lockstep opinions are generated by the democrat media complex and force fed to political news consumers such as yourself. The key word here is “opinions” and because you agree, you consider these “stories” as truth and people who are skeptical are in your mind “liars.” It used to be that a retraction of a story was unthinkable, but in this day and age it is all too common, which in my opinion has destroyed the credibility of the entire news industry. The recent Twitter releases comprehensively demonstrate this, in that the liberal news editors who decide which news story gets aired and which gets buried or ignored have a definitive left leaning agenda. Why should I trust these people? They can’t get their facts straight AND they bury stories (like the Hunter Biden laptop) which go against their political agenda. It’s actually fiendishly brilliant, but I’m not buying the cr@p. yep, the "Democratic Media Complex" has sure fugged me up. If it wasn't for them , I'd be all behind trump, Ye, Nick Fuentes and gettin rid of the Constitution. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2022 21:07:29 GMT -8
There's nothing to disagree about. You're lying, as per usual. All the stuff I posted is true. As in today the Trump Organization was found guilty on all 17 counts to commit tax fraud in New York. How are you this delusional? Use Google and get your head out of the clouds. Much of the stuff you post are political opinion editorials, written by the mainstream media bots of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS ect. These lockstep opinions are generated by the democrat media complex and force fed to political news consumers such as yourself. The key word here is “opinions” and because you agree, you consider these “stories” as truth and people who are skeptical are in your mind “liars.” It used to be that a retraction of a story was unthinkable, but in this day and age it is all too common, which in my opinion has destroyed the credibility of the entire news industry. The recent Twitter releases comprehensively demonstrate this, in that the liberal news editors who decide which news story gets aired and which gets buried or ignored have a definitive left leaning agenda. Why should I trust these people? They can’t get their facts straight AND they bury stories (like the Hunter Biden laptop) which go against their political agenda. It’s actually fiendishly brilliant, but I’m not buying the cr@p. By the same token, you think the Hunter Biden laptop is an actual crisis, despite it being investigated for years by a Republican-led FBI. You can hide behind your paranoia, but you're just being duped. How an objective person could take a Republican slanted news outlet seriously is insane, to be frank. It defies reality. All the stories I posted are true events. Yet you're probably more concerned with wokeness and drag shows. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 6, 2022 22:24:38 GMT -8
Much of the stuff you post are political opinion editorials, written by the mainstream media bots of the New York Times, Washington Post, CNN, NBC, ABC, CBS, PBS ect. These lockstep opinions are generated by the democrat media complex and force fed to political news consumers such as yourself. The key word here is “opinions” and because you agree, you consider these “stories” as truth and people who are skeptical are in your mind “liars.” It used to be that a retraction of a story was unthinkable, but in this day and age it is all too common, which in my opinion has destroyed the credibility of the entire news industry. The recent Twitter releases comprehensively demonstrate this, in that the liberal news editors who decide which news story gets aired and which gets buried or ignored have a definitive left leaning agenda. Why should I trust these people? They can’t get their facts straight AND they bury stories (like the Hunter Biden laptop) which go against their political agenda. It’s actually fiendishly brilliant, but I’m not buying the cr@p. By the same token, you think the Hunter Biden laptop is an actual crisis, despite it being investigated for years by a Republican-led FBI. You can hide behind your paranoia, but you're just being duped. How an objective person could take a Republican slanted news outlet seriously is insane, to be frank. It defies reality. All the stories I posted are true events. Yet you're probably more concerned with wokeness and drag shows. Ok, let’s look at it another way. Take out the “Donald/Joe/Hunter” framework and boil it down to the bare essence of politics. It’s all about power, money and influence and the people who seek those things will say just about anything to achieve those ends. The Dems have the biggest microphones (mainstream media & social media) and their message/lies get broadcast the loudest and the longest. In fact, they have the ability to make the other candidates invisible. During the last California election for governor did you actually see commercials or hear the Republican candidate speak? Do you even know his name? Now maybe Brian Dahle ran a poor campaign, but the local news coverage on him was practically nonexistent. Out of sight out of mind and out of office. The entire media coverage was all about Gov Newsom and his tax rebate/bribe and what a super job that the future Presidential candidate was doing. The Democrat puppet press we currently have is very disquieting. As much as you democrats bitch about Fox News and Newsmax, they are very important in their role as counter viewpoint. Take them away and we will become a lot like Mexico, one station, one viewpoint, one political vision. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 6, 2022 22:51:58 GMT -8
By the same token, you think the Hunter Biden laptop is an actual crisis, despite it being investigated for years by a Republican-led FBI. You can hide behind your paranoia, but you're just being duped. How an objective person could take a Republican slanted news outlet seriously is insane, to be frank. It defies reality. All the stories I posted are true events. Yet you're probably more concerned with wokeness and drag shows. Ok, let’s look at it another way. Take out the “Donald/Joe/Hunter” framework and boil it down to the bare essence of politics. It’s all about power, money and influence and the people who seek those things will say just about anything to achieve those ends. The Dems have the biggest microphones (mainstream media & social media) and their message/lies get broadcast the loudest and the longest. In fact, they have the ability to make the other candidates invisible. During the last California election for governor did you actually see commercials or hear the Republican candidate speak? Do you even know his name? Now maybe Brian Dahle ran a poor campaign, but the local news coverage on him was practically nonexistent. Out of sight out of mind and out of office. The entire media coverage was all about Gov Newsom and his tax rebate/bribe and what a super job that the future Presidential candidate was doing. The Democrat puppet press we currently have is very disquieting. As much as you democrats bitch about Fox News and Newsmax, they are very important in their role as counter viewpoint. Take them away and we will become a lot like Mexico, one station, one viewpoint, one political vision. They don't though. That's what you're failing to understand. Fox News isn't even news, it's considered "entertainment" when it should be called state propaganda. Newsmax is even worse, it's just conspiracy theories and fringe radicalism. Case in point tonight after the Georgia runoff...Laura Ingraham's first reaction? To decry voter fraud in blue counties because they are densely populated. It's idiocy and nothing more than clickbait water cooler stuff for the unintelligent and easily deceived. When I catch ABC News, my first thought isn't "whoa, this is far left propaganda." When I watch C-Span, I don't consider it radical. They aren't out here espousing conspiracy theories about voter fraud and promoting outright fanaticism and lies. It just doesn't happen. Here's an actual story from Newsmax today. That's supposed to be considered news? Having an opposing view is one thing, it's totally fine. But it has to be grounded in reality and this load of garbage doesn't qualify. |
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 7, 2022 0:16:15 GMT -8
The truth of the matter is that if Democrats were losing elections of importance, there would be those that would cry voter fraud, as well. It goes both ways.
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 7, 2022 2:42:48 GMT -8
Ok, let’s look at it another way. Take out the “Donald/Joe/Hunter” framework and boil it down to the bare essence of politics. It’s all about power, money and influence and the people who seek those things will say just about anything to achieve those ends. The Dems have the biggest microphones (mainstream media & social media) and their message/lies get broadcast the loudest and the longest. In fact, they have the ability to make the other candidates invisible. During the last California election for governor did you actually see commercials or hear the Republican candidate speak? Do you even know his name? Now maybe Brian Dahle ran a poor campaign, but the local news coverage on him was practically nonexistent. Out of sight out of mind and out of office. The entire media coverage was all about Gov Newsom and his tax rebate/bribe and what a super job that the future Presidential candidate was doing. The Democrat puppet press we currently have is very disquieting. As much as you democrats bitch about Fox News and Newsmax, they are very important in their role as counter viewpoint. Take them away and we will become a lot like Mexico, one station, one viewpoint, one political vision. They don't though. That's what you're failing to understand. Fox News isn't even news, it's considered "entertainment" when it should be called state propaganda. Newsmax is even worse, it's just conspiracy theories and fringe radicalism. Case in point tonight after the Georgia runoff...Laura Ingraham's first reaction? To decry voter fraud in blue counties because they are densely populated. It's idiocy and nothing more than clickbait water cooler stuff for the unintelligent and easily deceived. When I catch ABC News, my first thought isn't "whoa, this is far left propaganda." When I watch C-Span, I don't consider it radical. They aren't out here espousing conspiracy theories about voter fraud and promoting outright fanaticism and lies. It just doesn't happen. Here's an actual story from Newsmax today. That's supposed to be considered news? Having an opposing view is one thing, it's totally fine. But it has to be grounded in reality and this load of garbage doesn't qualify. Well, regardless of your opinion….and that’s what it is, just an opinion, Republican voters also consume news and view MSNBC and CNN as left slanted unwatchable rubbish. |
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 7, 2022 2:58:50 GMT -8
By the same token, you think the Hunter Biden laptop is an actual crisis, despite it being investigated for years by a Republican-led FBI. You can hide behind your paranoia, but you're just being duped. How an objective person could take a Republican slanted news outlet seriously is insane, to be frank. It defies reality. All the stories I posted are true events. Yet you're probably more concerned with wokeness and drag shows. Ok, let’s look at it another way. Take out the “Donald/Joe/Hunter” framework and boil it down to the bare essence of politics. It’s all about power, money and influence and the people who seek those things will say just about anything to achieve those ends. The Dems have the biggest microphones (mainstream media & social media) and their message/lies get broadcast the loudest and the longest. In fact, they have the ability to make the other candidates invisible. During the last California election for governor did you actually see commercials or hear the Republican candidate speak? Do you even know his name? Now maybe Brian Dahle ran a poor campaign, but the local news coverage on him was practically nonexistent. Out of sight out of mind and out of office. The entire media coverage was all about Gov Newsom and his tax rebate/bribe and what a super job that the future Presidential candidate was doing. The Democrat puppet press we currently have is very disquieting. As much as you democrats bitch about Fox News and Newsmax, they are very important in their role as counter viewpoint. Take them away and we will become a lot like Mexico, one station, one viewpoint, one political vision. Newsmax, FOX etc. manipulated you like candy from a baby, just like trump did cause they were making huge bank. Haha, end up like Mexico. How bout maga world think for themselves for once. Why did trump pick the right and Republicans to manipulate? Cause he knew they were the easiest. He watched Rush (dittos) all the right wing shows "we're right, thay are wrong" "you're a great American" etc. Listeners are like cult members. Talk about no free thought. We all told you trump was a shyster, a conman and a carnival barker. He was going to implode eventually. But maga world let him slide on every crazy, unethical dangerous act he ever did. You enabled this horrible human. Now guess what, the chickens come home to roost. Guess what, he is imploding and maga world is starting to jump of him like fleas off a dead dog. This has been predicted (based on his history) time and time again...yet you and others enabled. Now that he's made the Republicans a laughing stock and a SAD unit.. the TDS and mean tweets defence goes up in flames..just like it deserves. All you can talk about is the "The Democrat puppet Press" but guess who really got snookered. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 7, 2022 7:19:19 GMT -8
The truth of the matter is that if Democrats were losing elections of importance, there would be those that would cry voter fraud, as well. It goes both ways. Complete bull$#!+ and you know it. There's a massive difference between 2000, or even 2016...and this. It's not the same thing and to say otherwise is disingenuous and irresponsible. Do you see Hillary Clinton doing interviews about eliminating the Constitution? Do you see her trying to install herself as president? Did she incite an insurrection nobody is aware of? Your "both sides" nonsense is tiring and juvenile. It's lazy, half-assed assessments of an important battle for the core values of our country to remain in place. Attacking democracy like ONE party is doing cannot stand. Take your blinders off and start getting informed. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 7, 2022 7:22:19 GMT -8
They don't though. That's what you're failing to understand. Fox News isn't even news, it's considered "entertainment" when it should be called state propaganda. Newsmax is even worse, it's just conspiracy theories and fringe radicalism. Case in point tonight after the Georgia runoff...Laura Ingraham's first reaction? To decry voter fraud in blue counties because they are densely populated. It's idiocy and nothing more than clickbait water cooler stuff for the unintelligent and easily deceived. When I catch ABC News, my first thought isn't "whoa, this is far left propaganda." When I watch C-Span, I don't consider it radical. They aren't out here espousing conspiracy theories about voter fraud and promoting outright fanaticism and lies. It just doesn't happen. Here's an actual story from Newsmax today. That's supposed to be considered news? Having an opposing view is one thing, it's totally fine. But it has to be grounded in reality and this load of garbage doesn't qualify. Well, regardless of your opinion….and that’s what it is, just an opinion, Republican voters also consume news and view MSNBC and CNN as left slanted unwatchable rubbish. Not an opinion. A fact. You're incapable of neutrality and critical analysis in any aspect here. Why? CNN leans right now, you know that, right? After they fired multiple on air personalities who had been with the network for years for voicing concerns that were considered too liberal? MSNBC versus Newsmax is uh....a complete farce. Your stance is "Republican voters also consume news and view MSNBC and CNN as left slanted unwatchable rubbish." Left leaning media is one thing, but where's the part where MSNBC just makes things up and shares propaganda for entertainment? You can spot the difference....right? |
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Post by johneaztec on Dec 7, 2022 8:27:43 GMT -8
The truth of the matter is that if Democrats were losing elections of importance, there would be those that would cry voter fraud, as well. It goes both ways. Complete bull$#!+ and you know it. There's a massive difference between 2000, or even 2016...and this. It's not the same thing and to say otherwise is disingenuous and irresponsible. Do you see Hillary Clinton doing interviews about eliminating the Constitution? Do you see her trying to install herself as president? Did she incite an insurrection nobody is aware of? Your "both sides" nonsense is tiring and juvenile. It's lazy, half-assed assessments of an important battle for the core values of our country to remain in place. Attacking democracy like ONE party is doing cannot stand. Take your blinders off and start getting informed. Ha!!! Triggered much? Lol. Did I say anything about Hillary? You're the one comparing Trump to Hillary, etc.... No, I don't KNOW it. What I'M saying is that there would be individuals in the media, and some politicians that would be screaming voter fraud, as well on the Democratic side. That's it. You, of course, will go the dramatic route and will ASSume what you want to ASSume what I'm referring to. If you say that some Democrats wouldn't, and haven't cried voter fraud, then you're very naive. Also, of course you're going to say that you're tired of hearing me say that both sides react the same way in certain situations, because you want to have blinders on and deflect accountability. You want to make one side look as bad as possy when the other side has their issues as well. No shock there. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 7, 2022 9:11:32 GMT -8
Complete bull$#!+ and you know it. There's a massive difference between 2000, or even 2016...and this. It's not the same thing and to say otherwise is disingenuous and irresponsible. Do you see Hillary Clinton doing interviews about eliminating the Constitution? Do you see her trying to install herself as president? Did she incite an insurrection nobody is aware of? Your "both sides" nonsense is tiring and juvenile. It's lazy, half-assed assessments of an important battle for the core values of our country to remain in place. Attacking democracy like ONE party is doing cannot stand. Take your blinders off and start getting informed. Ha!!! Triggered much? Lol. Did I say anything about Hillary? You're the one comparing Trump to Hillary, etc.... No, I don't KNOW it. What I'M saying is that there would be individuals in the media, and some politicians that would be screaming voter fraud, as well on the Democratic side. That's it. You, of course, will go the dramatic route and will ASSume what you want to ASSume what I'm referring to. If you say that some Democrats wouldn't, and haven't cried voter fraud, then you're very naive. Also, of course you're going to say that you're tired of hearing me say that both sides react the same way in certain situations, because you want to have blinders on and deflect accountability. You want to make one side look as bad as possy when the other side has their issues as well. No shock there. Triggered? No. A low tolerance for disingenous lying in a public forum about a gravely serious topic? Yes. This stuff matters. The truth matters. I'm using Hillary Clinton as an obvious recent example of a contested election where she conceded after there were doubts about votes cast (If we aren't talking about historical parallels, then what the hell is your point?) (This shouldn't be hard to understand?).... You're speaking in constant generalities, while I'm not. You prefer to point fingers opposite of reality. I prefer to get to a point. Your point is vague conjecture and whataboutism, as per your usual standard. It's not about "some Democrats"....it's about the largest single influential figure in an entire party who has mainstream appeal and cult status. How can you not see that? You really think if a random member of the House on the side of the Dems went on social media and declared all elections that they didn't win corrupt and rife with fraud that it would somehow equate to what the former sitting president has maintained for 6+ years now? THINK. It's not hard to figure this out. ONE party is the issue when it comes to this specific scenario. And no, I don't care if you look bad. You take care of that on your own with your constant lazy critiques. There's no effort. Zero. You think *I'm* trying to deflect? As you talk yourself in circles here, you haven't found the truth of the matter because you simply don't care to. It's pathetic, frankly. "The other side having issues" isn't the issue HERE. Full stop. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 7, 2022 10:31:12 GMT -8
Hey, look, John, here's a sitting Congressman (not a Democrat), who played a considerable role in January 6th advocating for the abolition of the Constitution.
When they say the quiet part aloud, believe them.
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Post by azson on Dec 7, 2022 11:17:37 GMT -8
The truth of the matter is that if Democrats were losing elections of importance, there would be those that would cry voter fraud, as well. It goes both ways. Really? Compare HRC's reaction to losing a close election to Trump's and get back to me. John, your false equivalence continues to baffle. I wrote AM and Thor off long ago but I still have hope you'll see the light one day. |
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