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Post by 84aztec96 on Sept 30, 2022 11:05:51 GMT -8
You are right about Graham. He's trying to do what Roe v Wade did, but in reverse.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 11:14:24 GMT -8
You went from a "I don't support Trumpism" to a far-right approach in record time.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Sept 30, 2022 11:20:25 GMT -8
Yes, secure boarders are far-right. The right to bear arms, far right. Limits on abortion, far right. Calling out hypocrisy, far right...
And the list goes on...and don't forget far right are MAGA and they must be stopped because they are a threat to democracy....
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 12:05:56 GMT -8
Yes, secure boarders are far-right. The right to bear arms, far right. Limits on abortion, far right. Calling out hypocrisy, far right... And the list goes on...and don't forget far right are MAGA and they must be stopped because they are a threat to democracy.... "Secure borders" is a myth. The border has never been and will never be "secure." Migration will always flow, by the hundreds of thousands. A broken and backlogged asylum system desperately in need of overhaul is the culprit you'll likely looking for here. You undermine your own arguments when you have nothing of substance and make repeated jokes about tired talking points. (My guns, my rights, blah blah blah) You flat out said you didn't support Trumpism and then immediately backtracked and said "he's on my team." Forgive me if your perspective is lacking, or your knowledge of the Constitution is underwhelming.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 12:15:40 GMT -8
Yes, secure boarders are far-right. The right to bear arms, far right. Limits on abortion, far right. Calling out hypocrisy, far right... And the list goes on...and don't forget far right are MAGA and they must be stopped because they are a threat to democracy.... Since you need a refresher course: Don't choose this hill. You'll embarrass yourself because there are hundreds of photos in evidence of violence perpetrated by Trump supporters, Nazi sympathizers and White nationalists. If your position is that those people who attacked the Capitol are not a threat to democracy when their sole mission was to overturn the results of an election, you are lying to yourself and to the rest of the board.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 30, 2022 13:05:43 GMT -8
Yes, secure boarders are far-right. The right to bear arms, far right. Limits on abortion, far right. Calling out hypocrisy, far right... And the list goes on...and don't forget far right are MAGA and they must be stopped because they are a threat to democracy.... "Secure borders" is a myth. The border has never been and will never be "secure." Migration will always flow, by the hundreds of thousands. A broken and backlogged asylum system desperately in need of overhaul is the culprit you'll likely looking for here. You undermine your own arguments when you have nothing of substance and make repeated jokes about tired talking points. (My guns, my rights, blah blah blah) You flat out said you didn't support Trumpism and then immediately backtracked and said "he's on my team." Forgive me if your perspective is lacking, or your knowledge of the Constitution is underwhelming. Regarding your whataboutism regarding border security, don't equate an inability to have 100% effectiveness to an Administration supporting an unsecure border. Consider birth control, for example. While no method is 100% effective, using it correctly means you are NOT "trying" to get pregnant. But using only a "partial" border wall, offering every incentive to come illegally and allowing your agents to be overwhelmed with numbers is like using a "partial" condom. Its ludicrous. We are now actually "trying" to import illegal asylum seekers.
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Post by mySTRAS on Sept 30, 2022 13:28:15 GMT -8
Yes, only the NY Times must be quoted. Everything else is not a part of the "official" narrative. Never get off script. Of course you can't take care of people in your own neighborhood, that is for other people to do... Never get off script... kinda like the MAGA crowd? Heaven forbid we ever piss off the orange monkey! We'll mimic everyone he says. Fine individuals you have on the right... Alex Jones, Matt Gaetz, Roger Stone, Aileen Cannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Steve Bannon, Mike Lindell. Why were people on the right begging for pre-emptive pardons? Why did DeSantis send migrants to a specific location with zero facilities? The next time you attend a Trump rally or CPAC, look to your left and then look to your right. Please let us know if you see anyone who isn't high-school dropout white trash or someone wearing a hood. Let's start with a more basic question... WAS THE 2020 ELECTION STOLEN? Waiting on pins and needles for the tidal wave of proof provided by a pillow salesman.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 14:00:06 GMT -8
"Secure borders" is a myth. The border has never been and will never be "secure." Migration will always flow, by the hundreds of thousands. A broken and backlogged asylum system desperately in need of overhaul is the culprit you'll likely looking for here. You undermine your own arguments when you have nothing of substance and make repeated jokes about tired talking points. (My guns, my rights, blah blah blah) You flat out said you didn't support Trumpism and then immediately backtracked and said "he's on my team." Forgive me if your perspective is lacking, or your knowledge of the Constitution is underwhelming. Regarding your whataboutism regarding border security, don't equate an inability to have 100% effectiveness to an Administration supporting an unsecure border. Consider birth control, for example. While no method is 100% effective, using it correctly means you are NOT "trying" to get pregnant. But using only a "partial" border wall, offering every incentive to come illegally and allowing your agents to be overwhelmed with numbers is like using a "partial" condom. Its ludicrous. We are now actually "trying" to import illegal asylum seekers. I've made it clear I have no desire to engage with you, a lying, intellectually dishonest and disingenuous hack. No amount of football analogies, birth control analogies, or other stupid metaphors will change that. You're a disgrace. Have fun shouting into your racist wind.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 14:01:51 GMT -8
Yes, only the NY Times must be quoted. Everything else is not a part of the "official" narrative. Never get off script. Of course you can't take care of people in your own neighborhood, that is for other people to do... Never get off script... kinda like the MAGA crowd? Heaven forbid we ever piss off the orange monkey! We'll mimic everyone he says. Fine individuals you have on the right... Alex Jones, Matt Gaetz, Roger Stone, Aileen Cannon, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Steve Bannon, Mike Lindell. Why were people on the right begging for pre-emptive pardons? Why did DeSantis send migrants to a specific location with zero facilities? The next time you attend a Trump rally or CPAC, look to your left and then look to your right. Please let us know if you see anyone who isn't high-school dropout white trash or someone wearing a hood. Let's start with a more basic question... WAS THE 2020 ELECTION STOLEN? Waiting on pins and needles for the tidal wave of proof provided by a pillow salesman. Citizens cannot accept that they were duped by a fraudulent con artist. They'd rather live with their head in the clouds and ignore reality, or let Fox (or worse?) do it for them. The one thing I keep circling back to... Donald Trump? Seriously?
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 30, 2022 14:15:44 GMT -8
Regarding your whataboutism regarding border security, don't equate an inability to have 100% effectiveness to an Administration supporting an unsecure border. Consider birth control, for example. While no method is 100% effective, using it correctly means you are NOT "trying" to get pregnant. But using only a "partial" border wall, offering every incentive to come illegally and allowing your agents to be overwhelmed with numbers is like using a "partial" condom. Its ludicrous. We are now actually "trying" to import illegal asylum seekers. I've made it clear I have no desire to engage with you, a lying, intellectually dishonest and disingenuous hack. No amount of football analogies, birth control analogies, or other stupid metaphors will change that. You're a disgrace. Have fun shouting into your racist wind. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. I understand how impossible it is to defend this Administration's policies with any amount of intellectual honesty.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 14:24:05 GMT -8
I've made it clear I have no desire to engage with you, a lying, intellectually dishonest and disingenuous hack. No amount of football analogies, birth control analogies, or other stupid metaphors will change that. You're a disgrace. Have fun shouting into your racist wind. The lady doth protest too much, methinks. I understand how impossible it is to defend this Administration's policies with any amount of intellectual honesty. There's nothing to defend. Just like your ignorance of the previous administration's crimes (which actually matter on a much larger and more significant scale.) No, you're just who you are and it's a detriment to this board. You're better off on Truth Social. Is what it is. Now, for real, good riddance.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 30, 2022 14:28:08 GMT -8
The lady doth protest too much, methinks. I understand how impossible it is to defend this Administration's policies with any amount of intellectual honesty. There's nothing to defend. Just like your ignorance of the previous administration's crimes (which actually matter on a much larger and more significant scale.) No, you're just who you are and it's a detriment to this board. You're better off on Truth Social. Is what it is. Now, for real, good riddance. Quack, quack. Like most clueless leftist clowns, when the truth hurts, they hope they can censor it.
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Post by mySTRAS on Sept 30, 2022 14:35:48 GMT -8
Oh what will happen to the sheep on the right when DJT passes away? Better have a good whiplash medical team when all the backtracking begins to unfold... "Oh I was never a Trump supporter... blah blah blah"
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 14:48:01 GMT -8
There's nothing to defend. Just like your ignorance of the previous administration's crimes (which actually matter on a much larger and more significant scale.) No, you're just who you are and it's a detriment to this board. You're better off on Truth Social. Is what it is. Now, for real, good riddance. Quack, quack. Like most clueless leftist clowns, when the truth hurts, they hope they can censor it. No. You're just a pathological right-wing lying hack, as I previously stated. I will humor you (and put you in your place) because you have no ability to speak truth, you spout Breitbartian nonsense and treat it as gospel. Here are some facts about your "crisis" at the border: - Hundreds of thousands of gotaways occurred in 2019 and 2020, even as general immigration around the world slowed due to COVID spread. It started under Trump and the illogical "Remain in Mexico" program. Not a word about that from you, anywhere? Shocking, I dare say. - The root cause of the problem (NOT presidential policy) is a lack of funding in the asylum process, crippling poverty in Latin and Central America and escalating numbers of people fleeing economic and social oppression. That's why the recivitism rate of illegal immigration was 38% in January of 2021, nearly SIX times what it was in 2019. - Taking into account recent history (when there was a border crisis just a couple years ago) means this issue is not simply a function of administrative doctrine. The inability to see that and project blame on just one party is laughably dense and shows a faulty premise. - The issues you make mountains out of are long-term systemic failures that have occurred for decades. This is not a new development. To shout hysterics about the border, about your other favorite talking point (cartels and fentanyl)....you're just regurgitating propaganda. There's no common sense, there's no objectivity, there's zero fundamental honesty taking place. You talk about hypocrisy and your overwhelming concern for the border (not for the people?) but you're fine with DeSantis illegally and cruelly taking advantage of vulnerable populations to "own the libs." You're a boring, uninventive troll. Your bridge is calling.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 30, 2022 15:20:41 GMT -8
Quack, quack. Like most clueless leftist clowns, when the truth hurts, they hope they can censor it. No. You're just a pathological right-wing lying hack, as I previously stated. I will humor you (and put you in your place) because you have no ability to speak truth, you spout Breitbartian nonsense and treat it as gospel. Here are some facts about your "crisis" at the border: - Hundreds of thousands of gotaways occurred in 2019 and 2020, even as general immigration around the world slowed due to COVID spread. It started under Trump and the illogical "Remain in Mexico" program. Not a word about that from you, anywhere? Shocking, I dare say. - The root cause of the problem (NOT presidential policy) is a lack of funding in the asylum process, crippling poverty in Latin and Central America and escalating numbers of people fleeing economic and social oppression. That's why the recivitism rate of illegal immigration was 38% in January of 2021, nearly SIX times what it was in 2019. - Taking into account recent history (when there was a border crisis just a couple years ago) means this issue is not simply a function of administrative doctrine. The inability to see that and project blame on just one party is laughably dense and shows a faulty premise. - The issues you make mountains out of are long-term systemic failures that have occurred for decades. This is not a new development. To shout hysterics about the border, about your other favorite talking point (cartels and fentanyl)....you're just regurgitating propaganda. There's no common sense, there's no objectivity, there's zero fundamental honesty taking place. You talk about hypocrisy and your overwhelming concern for the border (not for the people?) but you're fine with DeSantis illegally and cruelly taking advantage of vulnerable populations to "own the libs." You're a boring, uninventive troll. Your bridge is calling. To try and give this horrific criminal enterprise enabled by the Biden Administration a pass citing that "gotaways" made it in the past is as clueless as it gets. The current bonanza for the Mexican Drug cartels is directly related to Biden's catch and release policies and you know it. An absolute phony. And the increase in the Mexican Drug Cartels with human trafficking, causes an increase in sexual abuse of women and minors and you know it. The left could care less for their plight. And that financial bonanza fir the Mexican Drug Cartels is directly related to their fentanyl surge and you know it. And the increased in fentanyl smuggling causes an increase in US deaths and you know it. The Democrats just turn their eyes away and do little else and you know it. Biden's policies causes an increase in illegals, sex trafficking, deaths and no amount of whataboutism will give him an excuse that anyone would except for the mindless True Believer.
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Post by aztecmusician on Sept 30, 2022 15:21:44 GMT -8
It’s posts like this which encapsulates the corrupt Dems mindset. Shame on you for politicizing this disaster. Too late for politicization... you can thank DeSantis for that. That doesn’t mean YOU have to. This should be something which transcends political arguments. I just got off the phone with my Dad who lives in Pt Charlotte, Fl. Usually the media sensationalizes the news, making things seem worse than they actually are, this hurricane was as destructive as has been reported. This was a MAJOR storm event. Entire neighborhoods were simply erased by 120mph winds, which were sustained for 4 hours. 80% of the trees in my Dad’s neighborhood were blown over or broken off at the trunk, there are piles of debris everywhere. Most Floridians still don’t have power, assuming they still have a house. Many gas stations have no means (electricity) to pump gas and those who can have lines a half mile long. Supermarkets and food stores are barely operating. Many places are still flooded, bridges destroyed roads impassable. Ft. Myers, Punta Gorda, Cape Coral, Boca Grande and dozens of other cities and towns were completely devastated. Instead of rooting for the destruction of Mar a Lago or other people you don’t like, how about some positive thoughts for a change?
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 15:38:25 GMT -8
Too late for politicization... you can thank DeSantis for that. That doesn’t mean YOU have to. This should be something which transcends political arguments. I just got off the phone with my Dad who lives in Pt Charlotte, Fl. Usually the media sensationalizes the news, making things seem worse than they actually are, this hurricane was as destructive as has been reported. This was a MAJOR storm event. Entire neighborhoods were simply erased by 120mph winds, which were sustained for 4 hours. 80% of the trees in my Dad’s neighborhood were blown over or broken off at the trunk, there are piles of debris everywhere. Most Floridians still don’t have power, assuming they still have a house. Many gas stations have no means (electricity) to pump gas and those who can have lines a half mile long. Supermarkets and food stores are barely operating. Many places are still flooded, bridges destroyed roads impassable. Ft. Myers, Punta Gorda, Cape Coral, Boca Grande and dozens of other cities and towns were completely devastated. Instead of rooting for the destruction of Mar a Lago or other people you don’t like, how about some positive thoughts for a change? You can't pick and choose when you care about people. Irony is dead.
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 15:40:12 GMT -8
No. You're just a pathological right-wing lying hack, as I previously stated. I will humor you (and put you in your place) because you have no ability to speak truth, you spout Breitbartian nonsense and treat it as gospel. Here are some facts about your "crisis" at the border: - Hundreds of thousands of gotaways occurred in 2019 and 2020, even as general immigration around the world slowed due to COVID spread. It started under Trump and the illogical "Remain in Mexico" program. Not a word about that from you, anywhere? Shocking, I dare say. - The root cause of the problem (NOT presidential policy) is a lack of funding in the asylum process, crippling poverty in Latin and Central America and escalating numbers of people fleeing economic and social oppression. That's why the recivitism rate of illegal immigration was 38% in January of 2021, nearly SIX times what it was in 2019. - Taking into account recent history (when there was a border crisis just a couple years ago) means this issue is not simply a function of administrative doctrine. The inability to see that and project blame on just one party is laughably dense and shows a faulty premise. - The issues you make mountains out of are long-term systemic failures that have occurred for decades. This is not a new development. To shout hysterics about the border, about your other favorite talking point (cartels and fentanyl)....you're just regurgitating propaganda. There's no common sense, there's no objectivity, there's zero fundamental honesty taking place. You talk about hypocrisy and your overwhelming concern for the border (not for the people?) but you're fine with DeSantis illegally and cruelly taking advantage of vulnerable populations to "own the libs." You're a boring, uninventive troll. Your bridge is calling. To try and give this horrific criminal enterprise enabled by the Biden Administration a pass citing that "gotaways" made it in the past is as clueless as it gets. The current bonanza for the Mexican Drug cartels is directly related to Biden's catch and release policies and you know it. An absolute phony. And the increase in the Mexican Drug Cartels with human trafficking, causes an increase in sexual abuse of women and minors and you know it. The left could care less for their plight. And that financial bonanza fir the Mexican Drug Cartels is directly related to their fentanyl surge and you know it. And the increased in fentanyl smuggling causes an increase in US deaths and you know it. The Democrats just turn their eyes away and do little else and you know it. Biden's policies causes an increase in illegals, sex trafficking, deaths and no amount of whataboutism will give him an excuse that anyone would except for the mindless True Believer. And you're in a cult of ignorance and noise. Go fly a kite. Your hyperbole (and unsourced nothingness) is disgraceful. But you know that.
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Post by mySTRAS on Sept 30, 2022 16:02:11 GMT -8
That doesn’t mean YOU have to. This should be something which transcends political arguments. I just got off the phone with my Dad who lives in Pt Charlotte, Fl. Usually the media sensationalizes the news, making things seem worse than they actually are, this hurricane was as destructive as has been reported. This was a MAJOR storm event. Entire neighborhoods were simply erased by 120mph winds, which were sustained for 4 hours. 80% of the trees in my Dad’s neighborhood were blown over or broken off at the trunk, there are piles of debris everywhere. Most Floridians still don’t have power, assuming they still have a house. Many gas stations have no means (electricity) to pump gas and those who can have lines a half mile long. Supermarkets and food stores are barely operating. Many places are still flooded, bridges destroyed roads impassable. Ft. Myers, Punta Gorda, Cape Coral, Boca Grande and dozens of other cities and towns were completely devastated. Instead of rooting for the destruction of Mar a Lago or other people you don’t like, how about some positive thoughts for a change? You can't pick and choose when you care about people. Irony is dead. All credit goes to George Carlin for this one... Republicans only care about unborn fetuses and those about to become military age. To hell with everybody else!
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Post by aztecryan on Sept 30, 2022 16:24:16 GMT -8
You can't pick and choose when you care about people. Irony is dead. All credit goes to George Carlin for this one... Republicans only care about unborn fetuses and those about to become military age. To hell with everybody else! The OP knows how he was ultra critical over the BLM protests and how the people involved were vilified. I guess social injustice isn't as important as DeSantis. Florida will be given federal aid, without having to ask for quid pro quo, investigations of political rivals or anything else.
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