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Post by johneaztec on Jun 22, 2022 0:01:40 GMT -8
Or, there's more trying to come over the border than before. I would ask the border patrol their thoughts on that. I don't know. I believe that's what McCarthy, Issa and others are alluding to. If Trump was in office right now they would be spinning it as "Look at what a great job Trump is doing catching criminals!" But if it's Biden, detaining criminals is a bad thing? Or like how no Republicans credited Obama for getting Bin Laden. It's partisan b.s., nothing less and nothing more. Yes, definitely partisan B.S. Both sides pull this stuff. Republicans will only say, "Wow, look at how many bad people are crossing the border, and the amount in general." And, never give props to the fact that many bad people were simply caught. And, the Dems will only say, "Wow, look at how many bad guys were caught." And, never mention how there's many more trying to cross the border now.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 22, 2022 7:52:14 GMT -8
If Trump was in office right now they would be spinning it as "Look at what a great job Trump is doing catching criminals!" But if it's Biden, detaining criminals is a bad thing? Or like how no Republicans credited Obama for getting Bin Laden. It's partisan b.s., nothing less and nothing more. Yes, definitely partisan B.S. Both sides pull this stuff. Republicans will only say, "Wow, look at how many bad people are crossing the border, and the amount in general." And, never give props to the fact that many bad people were simply caught. And, the Dems will only say, "Wow, look at how many bad guys were caught." And, never mention how there's many more trying to cross the border now. Because one is actually relevant. The previous administration spent an absurd amount of money on a "wall, a very big wall, maybe the biggest wall ever, a glorious wall, a great wall"....and it did absolutely nothing. COVID slowed immigration around the world, a fact that Republicans will gloss over and omit. It's cheap political theater. Like this racist moron. Or this one. As cute as it is to have an actual talking point, it's more disingenuous arguing by a corrupt party that doesn't give one $#!+ about immigration. They care about dogwhistling and carrying water for Donald Trump and want the majority of people to forget about January 6th. Smokescreens so thick you can't see five feet in front of you.
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Post by uwphoto on Jun 22, 2022 8:08:37 GMT -8
Yes, militarize the border..so we can keep the big, happy, family safely inside.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 22, 2022 9:23:14 GMT -8
For Democrats the open border is about future Democrat voters. If it were proven that these illegal immigrants were eventually going to become Republicans, the border would be clamped shut and the wall would be up tomorrow. In the meantime, the obvious security and health risks are completely ignored by this administration.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 22, 2022 10:04:47 GMT -8
For Democrats the open border is about future Democrat voters. If it were proven that these illegal immigrants were eventually going to become Republicans, the border would be clamped shut and the wall would be up tomorrow. In the meantime, the obvious security and health risks are completely ignored by this administration. They're not going to be voters at all since they're not citizens. They don't even try to vote (statistics prove that). So that's a bogus claim. The Democrats have demographics on their side. They don't need a single illegal immigrant to come into the country to have the demographic swing go their way. There are already more than Ten Million more registered Democrats than Republicans now, and the trend is for that spread to widen over the next 20 years. The Democrats don't need to cheat to win. The Republicans do. The numbers prove it.
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Post by azteccc on Jun 22, 2022 10:56:51 GMT -8
For Democrats the open border is about future Democrat voters. If it were proven that these illegal immigrants were eventually going to become Republicans, the border would be clamped shut and the wall would be up tomorrow. In the meantime, the obvious security and health risks are completely ignored by this administration. They're not going to be voters at all since they're not citizens. They don't even try to vote (statistics prove that). So that's a bogus claim. The Democrats have demographics on their side. They don't need a single illegal immigrant to come into the country to have the demographic swing go their way. There are already more than Ten Million more registered Democrats than Republicans now, and the trend is for that spread to widen over the next 20 years. The Democrats don't need to cheat to win. The Republicans do. The numbers prove it.By 2040, 30% of the country will be represented by 70 Senators and 70% of the country will be represented by 30 Senators. Want to guess the partisanship breakdown?
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 22, 2022 11:23:40 GMT -8
For Democrats the open border is about future Democrat voters. If it were proven that these illegal immigrants were eventually going to become Republicans, the border would be clamped shut and the wall would be up tomorrow. In the meantime, the obvious security and health risks are completely ignored by this administration. And your dogwhistling is incorrect, foolish and naive, as per your usual M.O. You really sound like you're reading from a script at the GOP convention or being baited by the news and the hateful tweets. Once again, the border cannot be "open" when drugs are being seized at record levels. It's an impossibility. Obvious security and health risks? Undocumented immigrants commit lower crime rates than U.S. citizens do. You're being spoonfed lies.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 22, 2022 14:00:33 GMT -8
They're not going to be voters at all since they're not citizens. They don't even try to vote (statistics prove that). So that's a bogus claim. The Democrats have demographics on their side. They don't need a single illegal immigrant to come into the country to have the demographic swing go their way. There are already more than Ten Million more registered Democrats than Republicans now, and the trend is for that spread to widen over the next 20 years. The Democrats don't need to cheat to win. The Republicans do. The numbers prove it.By 2040, 30% of the country will be represented by 70 Senators and 70% of the country will be represented by 30 Senators. Want to guess the partisanship breakdown? This is the real problem and the source of significant hand-wringing for the Democrats. The people have spoken - they want climate change action and paid family leave - but the unequal representation in the Senate means that none of that matters. The Democrats control the House and the White House, and can't get anything passed because the only have 48 Senate votes + 2 independent Senators who mostly vote Democratic, but are definitely centrists and will flip flop their vote as they best see fit.
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Post by azteccc on Jun 22, 2022 15:50:55 GMT -8
By 2040, 30% of the country will be represented by 70 Senators and 70% of the country will be represented by 30 Senators. Want to guess the partisanship breakdown? This is the real problem and the source of significant hand-wringing for the Democrats. The people have spoken - they want climate change action and paid family leave - but the unequal representation in the Senate means that none of that matters. The Democrats control the House and the White House, and can't get anything passed because the only have 48 Senate votes + 2 independent Senators who mostly vote Democratic, but are definitely centrists and will flip flop their vote as they best see fit. Also, the filibuster isn’t a real thing. It’s a fairly new, parliamentary scapegoat that is kept in place by Democrats to excuse inaction. I bring that up to say - Dems will go many decades/lifetimes without approaching 60 Senate votes, barring cataclysmic/systemic collapse or major party realignment.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 22, 2022 21:47:49 GMT -8
For Democrats the open border is about future Democrat voters. If it were proven that these illegal immigrants were eventually going to become Republicans, the border would be clamped shut and the wall would be up tomorrow. In the meantime, the obvious security and health risks are completely ignored by this administration. And your dogwhistling is incorrect, foolish and naive, as per your usual M.O. You really sound like you're reading from a script at the GOP convention or being baited by the news and the hateful tweets. Once again, the border cannot be "open" when drugs are being seized at record levels. It's an impossibility. Obvious security and health risks? Undocumented immigrants commit lower crime rates than U.S. citizens do. You're being spoonfed lies. So you are intimating that the Democrat leadership refuses to enforce our border because they are a generous and hospitable group? They wouldn’t allow this to happen if there wasn’t a political objective they are trying to achieve. According to this Congressman, over 234,000 people swarmed over our southern border last April. That’s just one month! Yes, our border is being overrun and the current administration is just watching it happen. grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2993
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 23, 2022 8:18:56 GMT -8
And your dogwhistling is incorrect, foolish and naive, as per your usual M.O. You really sound like you're reading from a script at the GOP convention or being baited by the news and the hateful tweets. Once again, the border cannot be "open" when drugs are being seized at record levels. It's an impossibility. Obvious security and health risks? Undocumented immigrants commit lower crime rates than U.S. citizens do. You're being spoonfed lies. So you are intimating that the Democrat leadership refuses to enforce our border because they are a generous and hospitable group? They wouldn’t allow this to happen if there wasn’t a political objective they are trying to achieve. According to this Congressman, over 234,000 people swarmed over our southern border last April. That’s just one month! Yes, our border is being overrun and the current administration is just watching it happen. grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2993Just like the "caravans" that never came. Just like the "caravans" who are still on their way, from Guatemala or somewhere else. Sensationalism. Notice how you can't even address the facts? Undocumented immigrants, in addition to contributing in massive ways to the workforce, commit lower rates of crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. Can we worry about what happens in this country, please? Gun violence? Congress being infiltrated by sycophants? What you are seeing (or failing to) is a return to pre-COVID immigration. By the way, your hero, the former president, failed to produce any meaningful change in "illegal" immigration numbers. "Although Trump succeeded in cutting legal immigration more than he initially planned, he oversaw the collapse of interior immigration enforcement. In 2020, the removal of illegal immigrants from the interior of the United States was the lowest as an absolute number and as a share of the illegal immigration population since ICE was created in 2003 (Figure 3). Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration, continuing a trend begun during the Obama administration in response to their deportation efforts. As a result, the population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office." www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigrationAnd once again, the border is not "wide open." Drugs are being seized daily. That is the OPPOSITE of "wide open." The party of racism is going overboard with this narrative to spew more anti-immigrant hatred. We're not dumb enough to fall for it. Some of us, anyway.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 23, 2022 17:45:14 GMT -8
This is the real problem and the source of significant hand-wringing for the Democrats. The people have spoken - they want climate change action and paid family leave - but the unequal representation in the Senate means that none of that matters. The Democrats control the House and the White House, and can't get anything passed because the only have 48 Senate votes + 2 independent Senators who mostly vote Democratic, but are definitely centrists and will flip flop their vote as they best see fit. Also, the filibuster isn’t a real thing. It’s a fairly new, parliamentary scapegoat that is kept in place by Democrats to excuse inaction.
I bring that up to say - Dems will go many decades/lifetimes without approaching 60 Senate votes, barring cataclysmic/systemic collapse or major party realignment. That's an interesting take. You're saying that some Democratic senators (moderates I'm assuming) don't want change, and just want to act as though they care to get re-elected (since the Democrats usually struggle to get anything through the Senate)? While I am generally against changing historical legal procedures like the filibuster, changing the filibuster rules does make sense until/unless the structure of the Senate can be changed at some point by constitutional amendment.
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Post by johneaztec on Jun 23, 2022 18:27:02 GMT -8
Also, the filibuster isn’t a real thing. It’s a fairly new, parliamentary scapegoat that is kept in place by Democrats to excuse inaction.
I bring that up to say - Dems will go many decades/lifetimes without approaching 60 Senate votes, barring cataclysmic/systemic collapse or major party realignment. That's an interesting take. You're saying that some Democratic senators (moderates I'm assuming) don't want change, and just want to act as though they care to get re-elected (since the Democrats usually struggle to get anything through the Senate)? While I am generally against changing historical legal procedures like the filibuster, changing the filibuster rules does make sense until/unless the structure of the Senate can be changed at some point by constitutional amendment. Isn't a filibuster sometimes used as a stall tactic?
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Post by azteccc on Jun 23, 2022 19:48:30 GMT -8
Also, the filibuster isn’t a real thing. It’s a fairly new, parliamentary scapegoat that is kept in place by Democrats to excuse inaction.
I bring that up to say - Dems will go many decades/lifetimes without approaching 60 Senate votes, barring cataclysmic/systemic collapse or major party realignment. That's an interesting take. You're saying that some Democratic senators (moderates I'm assuming) don't want change, and just want to act as though they care to get re-elected (since the Democrats usually struggle to get anything through the Senate)? While I am generally against changing historical legal procedures like the filibuster, changing the filibuster rules does make sense until/unless the structure of the Senate can be changed at some point by constitutional amendment. Well, the current day procedural rules around cloture only date to 1970, and were altered more than a couple times over the course of the next decade. The filibuster isn't really even a defined term in many ways - what is now a filibuster is actually manuvuering around a vote to cloture. The filibuster was not something put in place when the Senate was created, and created by sheer accident a couple years after inception when a rule was found redundant and eliminated at the insistence of Aaron Burr. It has basically been a loophole for the overwhelming majority of the time the Senate has been around, and for hundreds of years required actual people holding the actual floor. There are no rules that changed the "hold the floor" requirement - Senators got lazy and allowed the two-track system for moving other legislation and creating the theoretical filibuster. I'm all for actual filibusters, even if they are relatively new to the body. Theoretical filibusters are garbage - make those sacks of trash stand up there and recite poetry as long as their hearts desire, and then lets move to the vote when they are done. To the other part of your question - yes, as someone who no longer aligns with that party but used to and still should, I am saying that *most* Democratic senators, moderates and the middle of the party, don't actually want change and just want to act as though they care to get re-elected.
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Post by sdsuball on Jun 23, 2022 22:22:47 GMT -8
That's an interesting take. You're saying that some Democratic senators (moderates I'm assuming) don't want change, and just want to act as though they care to get re-elected (since the Democrats usually struggle to get anything through the Senate)? While I am generally against changing historical legal procedures like the filibuster, changing the filibuster rules does make sense until/unless the structure of the Senate can be changed at some point by constitutional amendment. Well, the current day procedural rules around cloture only date to 1970, and were altered more than a couple times over the course of the next decade. The filibuster isn't really even a defined term in many ways - what is now a filibuster is actually manuvuering around a vote to cloture. The filibuster was not something put in place when the Senate was created, and created by sheer accident a couple years after inception when a rule was found redundant and eliminated at the insistence of Aaron Burr. It has basically been a loophole for the overwhelming majority of the time the Senate has been around, and for hundreds of years required actual people holding the actual floor. There are no rules that changed the "hold the floor" requirement - Senators got lazy and allowed the two-track system for moving other legislation and creating the theoretical filibuster. I'm all for actual filibusters, even if they are relatively new to the body. Theoretical filibusters are garbage - make those sacks of trash stand up there and recite poetry as long as their hearts desire, and then lets move to the vote when they are done. To the other part of your question - yes, as someone who no longer aligns with that party but used to and still should, I am saying that *most* Democratic senators, moderates and the middle of the party, don't actually want change and just want to act as though they care to get re-elected. "In 1917, with frustration mounting and at the urging of President Woodrow Wilson, senators adopted a rule (Senate Rule 22) that allowed the Senate to invoke cloture and limit debate with a two-thirds majority vote. This rule was first put to the test in 1919, when the Senate invoked cloture to end a filibuster against the Treaty of Versailles. Even with the new cloture rule, however, filibusters remained an effective means to block legislation, since a two-thirds vote was difficult to obtain. Over the next four decades, the Senate managed to invoke cloture only five times. Filibusters proved to be particularly useful to southern senators who sought to block civil rights legislation, including anti-lynching bills. Not until 1964 did the Senate successfully overcome a filibuster to pass a major civil rights bill." So basically the filibuster is the reason why it took so long for African American people to get equal legal rights? I say get rid of it. Yeah the issue with Senators right is that you have to be wealthy to run for the Senate, and then being a Senator means that you become wealthier the longer you stay in office. So naturally rich Democrats tend to be more centrist or moderate because people with 50 million dollars in assets don't understand why people need paid sick leave (because they live paycheck to paycheck). And they don't necessarily want them and other rich Americans to foot the bill (or the corporations that they own or own stock in).
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 23, 2022 23:31:27 GMT -8
So you are intimating that the Democrat leadership refuses to enforce our border because they are a generous and hospitable group? They wouldn’t allow this to happen if there wasn’t a political objective they are trying to achieve. According to this Congressman, over 234,000 people swarmed over our southern border last April. That’s just one month! Yes, our border is being overrun and the current administration is just watching it happen. grothman.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=2993Just like the "caravans" that never came. Just like the "caravans" who are still on their way, from Guatemala or somewhere else. Sensationalism. Notice how you can't even address the facts? Undocumented immigrants, in addition to contributing in massive ways to the workforce, commit lower rates of crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. Can we worry about what happens in this country, please? Gun violence? Congress being infiltrated by sycophants? What you are seeing (or failing to) is a return to pre-COVID immigration. By the way, your hero, the former president, failed to produce any meaningful change in "illegal" immigration numbers. "Although Trump succeeded in cutting legal immigration more than he initially planned, he oversaw the collapse of interior immigration enforcement. In 2020, the removal of illegal immigrants from the interior of the United States was the lowest as an absolute number and as a share of the illegal immigration population since ICE was created in 2003 (Figure 3). Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration, continuing a trend begun during the Obama administration in response to their deportation efforts. As a result, the population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office." www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigrationAnd once again, the border is not "wide open." Drugs are being seized daily. That is the OPPOSITE of "wide open." The party of racism is going overboard with this narrative to spew more anti-immigrant hatred. We're not dumb enough to fall for it. Some of us, anyway. You didn’t really address my point, you just went into another anti-Trump rant, which is a bit odd because I didn’t bring him up in this discussion until now. You are all over the road, and your reasoning crashed a few paragraphs ago. Record numbers of illegal immigrants are streaming into the country, 234k just in last April…..which translates into millions of lawbreakers running around the country since Biden took office and Kamala was put in charge of the situation. Not surprising, pretty much everything has spiraled out of control under President Biden’s leadership. And YOU thought he was going to do a terrific job. Shows what you actually know. Things are so bad for him, after the Dems get crushed in the mid terms it is almost a given he won’t be returning for a second term. I’m sorry to say it, because I want all of our Presidents to succeed, but Biden crashing his 10 speed bike encapsulates his administration perfectly. A weak inept president is perilous for our ways of life in the current age in which we live.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jun 24, 2022 0:00:41 GMT -8
Just like the "caravans" that never came. Just like the "caravans" who are still on their way, from Guatemala or somewhere else. Sensationalism. Notice how you can't even address the facts? Undocumented immigrants, in addition to contributing in massive ways to the workforce, commit lower rates of crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. Can we worry about what happens in this country, please? Gun violence? Congress being infiltrated by sycophants? What you are seeing (or failing to) is a return to pre-COVID immigration. By the way, your hero, the former president, failed to produce any meaningful change in "illegal" immigration numbers. "Although Trump succeeded in cutting legal immigration more than he initially planned, he oversaw the collapse of interior immigration enforcement. In 2020, the removal of illegal immigrants from the interior of the United States was the lowest as an absolute number and as a share of the illegal immigration population since ICE was created in 2003 (Figure 3). Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration, continuing a trend begun during the Obama administration in response to their deportation efforts. As a result, the population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office." www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigrationAnd once again, the border is not "wide open." Drugs are being seized daily. That is the OPPOSITE of "wide open." The party of racism is going overboard with this narrative to spew more anti-immigrant hatred. We're not dumb enough to fall for it. Some of us, anyway. You didn’t really address my point, you just went into another anti-Trump rant, which is a bit odd because I didn’t bring him up in this discussion until now. You are all over the road, and your reasoning crashed a few paragraphs ago. Record numbers of illegal immigrants are streaming into the country, 234k just in last April…..which translates into millions of lawbreakers running around the country since Biden took office and Kamala was put in charge of the situation. Not surprising, pretty much everything has spiraled out of control under President Biden’s leadership. And YOU thought he was going to do a terrific job. Shows what you actually know. Things are so bad for him, after the Dems get crushed in the mid terms it is almost a given he won’t be returning for a second term. I’m sorry to say it, because I want all of our Presidents to succeed, but Biden crashing his 10 speed bike encapsulates his administration perfectly. A weak inept president is perilous for our ways of life in the current age in which we live. And a corrupt, arrogant, narcissistic, wannabe fascist like Trump would be even worse. I prefer democracy to an autocracy. That's just me.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 24, 2022 7:45:32 GMT -8
Just like the "caravans" that never came. Just like the "caravans" who are still on their way, from Guatemala or somewhere else. Sensationalism. Notice how you can't even address the facts? Undocumented immigrants, in addition to contributing in massive ways to the workforce, commit lower rates of crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. Can we worry about what happens in this country, please? Gun violence? Congress being infiltrated by sycophants? What you are seeing (or failing to) is a return to pre-COVID immigration. By the way, your hero, the former president, failed to produce any meaningful change in "illegal" immigration numbers. "Although Trump succeeded in cutting legal immigration more than he initially planned, he oversaw the collapse of interior immigration enforcement. In 2020, the removal of illegal immigrants from the interior of the United States was the lowest as an absolute number and as a share of the illegal immigration population since ICE was created in 2003 (Figure 3). Trump failed to increase removals because local jurisdictions refused to cooperate with his administration, continuing a trend begun during the Obama administration in response to their deportation efforts. As a result, the population of illegal immigrants remained about the same as when he took office." www.cato.org/blog/president-trump-reduced-legal-immigration-he-did-not-reduce-illegal-immigrationAnd once again, the border is not "wide open." Drugs are being seized daily. That is the OPPOSITE of "wide open." The party of racism is going overboard with this narrative to spew more anti-immigrant hatred. We're not dumb enough to fall for it. Some of us, anyway. You didn’t really address my point, you just went into another anti-Trump rant, which is a bit odd because I didn’t bring him up in this discussion until now. You are all over the road, and your reasoning crashed a few paragraphs ago. Record numbers of illegal immigrants are streaming into the country, 234k just in last April…..which translates into millions of lawbreakers running around the country since Biden took office and Kamala was put in charge of the situation. Not surprising, pretty much everything has spiraled out of control under President Biden’s leadership. And YOU thought he was going to do a terrific job. Shows what you actually know. Things are so bad for him, after the Dems get crushed in the mid terms it is almost a given he won’t be returning for a second term. I’m sorry to say it, because I want all of our Presidents to succeed, but Biden crashing his 10 speed bike encapsulates his administration perfectly. A weak inept president is perilous for our ways of life in the current age in which we live. I'm all over the road? Lol. You have struggles connecting two thoughts together. You're really not getting it here. I'm no Biden fan, I've made that VERY clear. However, even a milquetoast geriatric is an upgrade over the massive corruption, civil unrest, racism, narcissistic and disgusting behavior we witnessed during the Trump administration. We had a literal insurrection for the first time in 200 years under his watch at HIS BEHEST. Millions of lawbreakers? For the third time, undocumented immigrants commit less crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. NOWHERE have I ever said I thought he was going to do a terrific job. Not once. Ever. You're just making $#!+ up because you're so woefully out of your depth here. It's largely embarrassing that you get suckered into accepting dubious sources and accepting them as gospel.
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Post by aztecmusician on Jun 24, 2022 12:09:54 GMT -8
You didn’t really address my point, you just went into another anti-Trump rant, which is a bit odd because I didn’t bring him up in this discussion until now. You are all over the road, and your reasoning crashed a few paragraphs ago. Record numbers of illegal immigrants are streaming into the country, 234k just in last April…..which translates into millions of lawbreakers running around the country since Biden took office and Kamala was put in charge of the situation. Not surprising, pretty much everything has spiraled out of control under President Biden’s leadership. And YOU thought he was going to do a terrific job. Shows what you actually know. Things are so bad for him, after the Dems get crushed in the mid terms it is almost a given he won’t be returning for a second term. I’m sorry to say it, because I want all of our Presidents to succeed, but Biden crashing his 10 speed bike encapsulates his administration perfectly. A weak inept president is perilous for our ways of life in the current age in which we live. I'm all over the road? Lol. You have struggles connecting two thoughts together. You're really not getting it here. I'm no Biden fan, I've made that VERY clear. However, even a milquetoast geriatric is an upgrade over the massive corruption, civil unrest, racism, narcissistic and disgusting behavior we witnessed during the Trump administration. We had a literal insurrection for the first time in 200 years under his watch at HIS BEHEST. Millions of lawbreakers? For the third time, undocumented immigrants commit less crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. NOWHERE have I ever said I thought he was going to do a terrific job. Not once. Ever. You're just making $#!+ up because you're so woefully out of your depth here. It's largely embarrassing that you get suckered into accepting dubious sources and accepting them as gospel. Ok, again you didn’t address the RECORD NUMBERS of illegal immigrants flowing unchecked into our country. The reason you don’t get into that is because there is no way a non delusional person can look at that and say ‘wow that’s awesome!’ It’s not, and the influx of people negatively impacts employment, crime and puts a strain on our social services. Corruption? Biden has been a politician for over 40 years, you don’t get more corrupt than him. Joe and Hunter have been enriching their family for decades with corrupt deals in Ukraine and China. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55805698Civil unrest? That was democrats burning down their own cities. President Trump showed probably too much restraint, Biden would have gone Trudeau vs The Truckers on these knuckleheads and called out the National Guard having many of them arrested. Insurrection? Hardly. The Civil War was an insurrection, this was a flash mob. Agreed, it was not acceptable and pretty much every Republican acknowledged that. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of securing the capital and somehow her failure and culpability is ignored? I watched a little bit of the show, it got preempted by golf. Very few people care other than the lockstep democrats. Finally, everything is more expensive and gas prices have doubled since Biden took office. Shortages, inflation, supply issues, looming recession, Wall St taking a hit, nothing is going right for this administration. The Mid Terms are going to be a disaster for the Democrats. The electorate is not happy and Biden’s poll numbers are abysmal. Look for the GOP to take control of the Senate and flip the House with a 30-40 seat swing. Even the mainstream media and Dominion voting machines won’t be able to prevent this. Inflation is up, crime is a major issue and the pain at the gas pump all but guarantee a GOP takeover.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 24, 2022 13:00:41 GMT -8
I'm all over the road? Lol. You have struggles connecting two thoughts together. You're really not getting it here. I'm no Biden fan, I've made that VERY clear. However, even a milquetoast geriatric is an upgrade over the massive corruption, civil unrest, racism, narcissistic and disgusting behavior we witnessed during the Trump administration. We had a literal insurrection for the first time in 200 years under his watch at HIS BEHEST. Millions of lawbreakers? For the third time, undocumented immigrants commit less crime than ordinary U.S. citizens. NOWHERE have I ever said I thought he was going to do a terrific job. Not once. Ever. You're just making $#!+ up because you're so woefully out of your depth here. It's largely embarrassing that you get suckered into accepting dubious sources and accepting them as gospel. Ok, again you didn’t address the RECORD NUMBERS of illegal immigrants flowing unchecked into our country. The reason you don’t get into that is because there is no way a non delusional person can look at that and say ‘wow that’s awesome!’ It’s not, and the influx of people negatively impacts employment, crime and puts a strain on our social services. Corruption? Biden has been a politician for over 40 years, you don’t get more corrupt than him. Joe and Hunter have been enriching their family for decades with corrupt deals in Ukraine and China. www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-55805698Civil unrest? That was democrats burning down their own cities. President Trump showed probably too much restraint, Biden would have gone Trudeau vs The Truckers on these knuckleheads and called out the National Guard having many of them arrested. Insurrection? Hardly. The Civil War was an insurrection, this was a flash mob. Agreed, it was not acceptable and pretty much every Republican acknowledged that. Nancy Pelosi was in charge of securing the capital and somehow her failure and culpability is ignored? I watched a little bit of the show, it got preempted by golf. Very few people care other than the lockstep democrats. Finally, everything is more expensive and gas prices have doubled since Biden took office. Shortages, inflation, supply issues, looming recession, Wall St taking a hit, nothing is going right for this administration. The Mid Terms are going to be a disaster for the Democrats. The electorate is not happy and Biden’s poll numbers are abysmal. Look for the GOP to take control of the Senate and flip the House with a 30-40 seat swing. Even the mainstream media and Dominion voting machines won’t be able to prevent this. Inflation is up, crime is a major issue and the pain at the gas pump all but guarantee a GOP takeover. I'll address it now (again) - It's Republican hyperbole and anti-immigrant rhetoric by a party that has been gutted by racism and bigotry. It's only "RECORD NUMBERS" because immigration WORLDWIDE stalled during the pandemic. Check the 2018 numbers. They've been on this narrative for a LONG time. It's typical fanaticism, and no, it doesn't alter crime rates (except making them...lower?) Ah, yes, Hunter Biden (again)...Hilary's emails, Benghazi, the same tired playbook. You realize Trump profited from his business dealings WHILE IN OFFICE, yeah? No, corruption that I'm referring to is on a much grander and more severe scale. The Justice Department being torn to shreds, weaponizing the Attorney General's office (illegally), the unheard amount of actual indictments against Trump administration members, the "big lie", the intentional manipulation of COVID data, the firing of public officials who disagreed with the president, undermining public safety....it's an exhaustive list. Here's how I know you're just absorbing jargon and unable to discern facts. Nancy Pelosi is not in charge of Capitol security. (Facebook memes lied to you!) - The Capitol Police Board oversees Capitol security. The Speaker of the House does not in any way have oversight on a police presence at the Capitol. Period. The person responsible for failing to call in additional reinforcements? That would be Donald Trump, who oversees the National Guard. But we know why that happened, of course. Democrats burning their own cities? Oof, wrong again, Trumpster. There are well known instances of right-wing agitators encroaching on what were largely peaceful nationwide* protests. (Nationwide meaning not just Democratic cities) www.justsecurity.org/70497/far-right-infiltrators-and-agitators-in-george-floyd-protests-indicators-of-white-supremacists/(Are we getting tired of sipping the Fox News tea yet?) "Very few people care" except for the polls that indicate that Trump's future election odds have plummeted in multiple states now that the hearings are being broadcast. Not all of us are morally bankrupt denial artists. And yes, an insurrection. An insurrection is an unlawful attack against a body of government. That is the textbook definition of what took place, try as you might to spin it. (Again, Donald Trump? Pick a better idol, for God's sake) And lastly, to your final tired talking point - Global supply chain demands were interrupted on a large scale during COVID. Inflation is a worldwide phenomenon, a global force that has no direct origin in the United States. Gas prices began to rise in the spring of 2020, as has been stated previously, long before Joe Biden took office. Presidents do not control gas prices. They never have, never will. In 2013, the price of a barrel of crude oil was $97.35. In 2022, it's a shade over $101. What you are seeing is nothing more than oil companies taking in record profits by gouging consumers. This is VERY easy to discern when you bother to do a tiny bit of research and check prices in other countries around the world.
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