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Post by aztecryan on Apr 19, 2022 20:16:35 GMT -8
Yeah, you could tell he didn't like it, or that he wishes he wouldn't do it. He said it wasn't the best optics. This can be filed in the category of, "Well, what else was he going to say." Or, "You know he wasn't going to rip him." Or "Team is aware of it, he's covered and protected with a brace, has done it for multiple seasons and it's not a big deal." He's been doing a boatload of cardio on the field for multiple weeks now. If it was a real issue or the team was legitimately concerned, they'd tell him to stop.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 19, 2022 20:40:14 GMT -8
Yeah, you could tell he didn't like it, or that he wishes he wouldn't do it. He said it wasn't the best optics. This can be filed in the category of, "Well, what else was he going to say." Or, "You know he wasn't going to rip him." Or "Team is aware of it, he's covered and protected with a brace, has done it for multiple seasons and it's not a big deal." He's been doing a boatload of cardio on the field for multiple weeks now. If it was a real issue or the team was legitimately concerned, they'd tell him to stop. You just highlighted the coach speak, or the 'ol, "What else is he going to say." Or, "Do you really think he's going to rip his player to the press?" Sure, they're aware he messes around playing soccer in the past WITHOUT a broken wrist, but when you're rehabbing a wrist that's keeping you out for approximately 60 games, that is not a good thing to be doing. Bad optics, and not responsible. They're not going to say whether or not they've now told him to stop doing it, or to at least not fall down and be more careful while playing around, undermine him. There's a reason he was asked that question, and that's because it didn't look good and one tweak, braced or not, could set him back.
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Post by junior on Apr 19, 2022 21:13:45 GMT -8
By the way, I cringed when I saw Tatis playing soccer on the field, and falling down on his wrist during this rehab stint. Not good optics, and not very responsible. Seriously, what's he thinking about? I get that he probably knows his limitations, but the lack of care was just astounding. The notion of reinjuring that wrist apparently didn't even cross his mind. Does he need a babysitter? And televising it? That was even more ridiculous. Some dumb things are best kept "in house".
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 19, 2022 21:34:33 GMT -8
By the way, I cringed when I saw Tatis playing soccer on the field, and falling down on his wrist during this rehab stint. Not good optics, and not very responsible. Seriously, what's he thinking about? I get that he probably knows his limitations, but the lack of care was just astounding. The notion of reinjuring that wrist apparently didn't even cross his mind. Does he need a babysitter? And televising it? That was even more ridiculous. Some dumb things are best kept "in house". Exactly. He tripped over the ball and could have easily landed on it awkwardly. Really bad optics that, like you said, was televised for all to see. He's a bit reckless, riding motorcycles, and then his irresponsible decision to continue playing his soccer on the ball field with a broken wrist, brace or not, like he did when he was healthy. Like Bob Melvin even said, bad optics at the very least.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 19, 2022 23:15:07 GMT -8
Or "Team is aware of it, he's covered and protected with a brace, has done it for multiple seasons and it's not a big deal." He's been doing a boatload of cardio on the field for multiple weeks now. If it was a real issue or the team was legitimately concerned, they'd tell him to stop. You just highlighted the coach speak, or the 'ol, "What else is he going to say." Or, "Do you really think he's going to rip his player to the press?" Sure, they're aware he messes around playing soccer in the past WITHOUT a broken wrist, but when you're rehabbing a wrist that's keeping you out for approximately 60 games, that is not a good thing to be doing. Bad optics, and not responsible. They're not going to say whether or not they've now told him to stop doing it, or to at least not fall down and be more careful while playing around, undermine him. There's a reason he was asked that question, and that's because it didn't look good and one tweak, braced or not, could set him back. It's weird when you bring up the same argument that I did previously for a separate topic, yet you want to use it here like it means something. The team is aware of what he's doing. It's not a big deal. They don't consider it anything to worry about. To think they care about undermining him when they could have voided his contract already is...odd Cool ESPN headlines, but a total nothingburger.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 19, 2022 23:47:19 GMT -8
Seriously, what's he thinking about? I get that he probably knows his limitations, but the lack of care was just astounding. The notion of reinjuring that wrist apparently didn't even cross his mind. Does he need a babysitter? And televising it? That was even more ridiculous. Some dumb things are best kept "in house". Exactly. He tripped over the ball and could have easily landed on it awkwardly. Really bad optics that, like you said, was televised for all to see. He's a bit reckless, riding motorcycles, and then his irresponsible decision to continue playing his soccer on the ball field with a broken wrist, brace or not, like he did when he was healthy. Like Bob Melvin even said, bad optics at the very least. Playing soccer may be a dangerous exercise in the shape/age that some of us are in on this board, but it is no way dangerous for someone in as good as shape and as young as he is. C'mon. Playing soccer is like a 2 on the dangerous scale, just as dangerous as going on a trail run imo for twisting an ankle, and riding a motorcycle is like a 7 out of 10...
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 19, 2022 23:51:24 GMT -8
What's next, are we going to ask him to stop stealing bases and stop sliding head first? This is a pretty ridiculous non-story
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 0:02:22 GMT -8
Exactly. He tripped over the ball and could have easily landed on it awkwardly. Really bad optics that, like you said, was televised for all to see. He's a bit reckless, riding motorcycles, and then his irresponsible decision to continue playing his soccer on the ball field with a broken wrist, brace or not, like he did when he was healthy. Like Bob Melvin even said, bad optics at the very least. Playing soccer may be a dangerous exercise in the shape/age that some of us are in on this board, but it is no way dangerous for someone in as good as shape and as young as he is. C'mon. Playing soccer is like a 2 on the dangerous scale, just as dangerous as going on a trail run imo for twisting an ankle, and riding a motorcycle is like a 7 out of 10... You must not have seen him trip over the ball and fall on his wrist. Not a good idea to take any chances when he's already out 60 games. Just like Bob Melvin said, bad optics. Also, you can be in the best shape of your life, and it won't matter if you land on it wrong. So there's that.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 0:06:45 GMT -8
What's next, are we going to ask him to stop stealing bases and stop sliding head first? This is a pretty ridiculous non-story Facetious much? C'mon. It's not much to ask to simply not do anything at the moment that may make you fall on your wrist, like he did, and possibly reinjure it, and not to say that it's simply very bad optics, and not smart.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 0:09:55 GMT -8
You just highlighted the coach speak, or the 'ol, "What else is he going to say." Or, "Do you really think he's going to rip his player to the press?" Sure, they're aware he messes around playing soccer in the past WITHOUT a broken wrist, but when you're rehabbing a wrist that's keeping you out for approximately 60 games, that is not a good thing to be doing. Bad optics, and not responsible. They're not going to say whether or not they've now told him to stop doing it, or to at least not fall down and be more careful while playing around, undermine him. There's a reason he was asked that question, and that's because it didn't look good and one tweak, braced or not, could set him back. It's weird when you bring up the same argument that I did previously for a separate topic, yet you want to use it here like it means something. The team is aware of what he's doing. It's not a big deal. They don't consider it anything to worry about. To think they care about undermining him when they could have voided his contract already is...odd Cool ESPN headlines, but a total nothingburger. Uh huh. As if they even SLIGHTLY considered voiding his contract. Not Tatis. That was never a realistic option. It's just not a very smart thing to do, fall on your bad wrist and risk any possible further injury. To see it any differently is what's odd.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 20, 2022 7:11:58 GMT -8
Playing soccer may be a dangerous exercise in the shape/age that some of us are in on this board, but it is no way dangerous for someone in as good as shape and as young as he is. C'mon. Playing soccer is like a 2 on the dangerous scale, just as dangerous as going on a trail run imo for twisting an ankle, and riding a motorcycle is like a 7 out of 10... You must not have seen him trip over the ball and fall on his wrist. Not a good idea to take any chances when he's already out 60 games. Just like Bob Melvin said, bad optics. Also, you can be in the best shape of your life, and it won't matter if you land on it wrong. So there's that. Yes but if you lose your balance when you're in better shape, you have faster reflexes and are less likely to land on it wrong. Not to mention that better flexibility = lower chance of injury even if you do land on it wrong. It's only bad optics because he slipped in front of cameras and the media is that desperate to talk about Tatis.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 7:32:10 GMT -8
Switching topics. Pham wants to fight anybody on the Padres who has a problem with him saying that Voit"s slide yesterday was dirty. I know he's a hot head, but chill out Pham. He still must have a grudge against the Padres for not re signing him.
The Reds Manager is giving Voit the benefit of the doubt on why his hands and arm nailed Stephenson's head, but some Reds players are not. Hopefully, no head hunting today by the Reds.
It didn't look good the way Voit's arm comes down on his head, but I think he was just trying to reach the plate, I don't know.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 8:24:36 GMT -8
You must not have seen him trip over the ball and fall on his wrist. Not a good idea to take any chances when he's already out 60 games. Just like Bob Melvin said, bad optics. Also, you can be in the best shape of your life, and it won't matter if you land on it wrong. So there's that. Yes but if you lose your balance when you're in better shape, you have faster reflexes and are less likely to land on it wrong. Not to mention that better flexibility = lower chance of injury even if you do land on it wrong. It's only bad optics because he slipped in front of cameras and the media is that desperate to talk about Tatis. Don't risk it at all. Healthy people blow their backs out, just by sneezing, for example. Anything can happen when you put yourself at risk. Don't put yourself in a position where you may fall on your bad wrist.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 20, 2022 9:18:42 GMT -8
It's weird when you bring up the same argument that I did previously for a separate topic, yet you want to use it here like it means something. The team is aware of what he's doing. It's not a big deal. They don't consider it anything to worry about. To think they care about undermining him when they could have voided his contract already is...odd Cool ESPN headlines, but a total nothingburger. Uh huh. As if they even SLIGHTLY considered voiding his contract. Not Tatis. That was never a realistic option. It's just not a very smart thing to do, fall on your bad wrist and risk any possible further injury. To see it any differently is what's odd. Wasn't even the bad wrist he fell on. And even if he did, he's wearing a protective brace and isn't going to shatter it falling on grass. It's just hilarious you think this is a story, yet you want to completely ignore the Hosmer stuff. Narratives, man.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 20, 2022 9:19:16 GMT -8
Yes but if you lose your balance when you're in better shape, you have faster reflexes and are less likely to land on it wrong. Not to mention that better flexibility = lower chance of injury even if you do land on it wrong. It's only bad optics because he slipped in front of cameras and the media is that desperate to talk about Tatis. Don't risk it at all. Healthy people blow their backs out, just by sneezing, for example. Anything can happen when you put yourself at risk. Don't put yourself in a position where you may fall on your bad wrist. So literally do nothing. Got it.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 9:35:12 GMT -8
Uh huh. As if they even SLIGHTLY considered voiding his contract. Not Tatis. That was never a realistic option. It's just not a very smart thing to do, fall on your bad wrist and risk any possible further injury. To see it any differently is what's odd. Wasn't even the bad wrist he fell on. And even if he did, he's wearing a protective brace and isn't going to shatter it falling on grass. It's just hilarious you think this is a story, yet you want to completely ignore the Hosmer stuff. Narratives, man. Since you can't get enough of the Hosmer stuff. I'll give you your daily fill. There's a huge difference from what Melvin said about Tatis, (absolutely along the lines of coach speak) and Musgrove's superlatives about Hosmer. Things like, "He's the glue," etc, etc, etc .... There ya go. I hope this brings joy to your day. Meanwhile, Hosmer continues to kick ass!!! Let's hope he can stay consistent.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 9:36:55 GMT -8
Don't risk it at all. Healthy people blow their backs out, just by sneezing, for example. Anything can happen when you put yourself at risk. Don't put yourself in a position where you may fall on your bad wrist. So literally do nothing. Got it. More of your dramatic stuff. I can think of plenty of things a person can do that won't potentially cause them to fall on their broken wrist. Lol
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 20, 2022 12:40:08 GMT -8
Wasn't even the bad wrist he fell on. And even if he did, he's wearing a protective brace and isn't going to shatter it falling on grass. It's just hilarious you think this is a story, yet you want to completely ignore the Hosmer stuff. Narratives, man. Since you can't get enough of the Hosmer stuff. I'll give you your daily fill. There's a huge difference from what Melvin said about Tatis, (absolutely along the lines of coach speak) and Musgrove's superlatives about Hosmer. Things like, "He's the glue," etc, etc, etc .... There ya go. I hope this brings joy to your day. Meanwhile, Hosmer continues to kick ass!!! Let's hope he can stay consistent. No, there isn't. It's called protecting your clubhouse. Anyone paying attention to Melvin's actual comments and mannerisms can tell he's not bothered by what happened. (And I don't care, outside of just laughing at the hypocritical subjectivity you choose to pay lip service to)...One is an absolute fan-induced frenzy about nothing, the other is a real event.
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 20, 2022 13:13:22 GMT -8
Since you can't get enough of the Hosmer stuff. I'll give you your daily fill. There's a huge difference from what Melvin said about Tatis, (absolutely along the lines of coach speak) and Musgrove's superlatives about Hosmer. Things like, "He's the glue," etc, etc, etc .... There ya go. I hope this brings joy to your day. Meanwhile, Hosmer continues to kick ass!!! Let's hope he can stay consistent. No, there isn't. It's called protecting your clubhouse. Anyone paying attention to Melvin's actual comments and mannerisms can tell he's not bothered by what happened. (And I don't care, outside of just laughing at the hypocritical subjectivity you choose to pay lip service to)...One is an absolute fan-induced frenzy about nothing, the other is a real event. It's no surprise that you continue to be a "company guy" even though you don't work for them. Anything outside of Hosmer, you'll defend to your detriment. I'm moving on, since your feedback on these types of issues are so tainted.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 20, 2022 13:26:36 GMT -8
No, there isn't. It's called protecting your clubhouse. Anyone paying attention to Melvin's actual comments and mannerisms can tell he's not bothered by what happened. (And I don't care, outside of just laughing at the hypocritical subjectivity you choose to pay lip service to)...One is an absolute fan-induced frenzy about nothing, the other is a real event. It's no surprise that you continue to be a "company guy" even though you don't work for them. Anything outside of Hosmer, you'll defend to your detriment. I'm moving on, since your feedback on these types of issues are so tainted. So because I don't subscribe to your nonsense about Tatis (that has no bearing on the situation or reality)....that's tainted? Come on. It's not about Hosmer, it's about the clubhouse. ALL I'm saying is that you can't bring up this point without giving any credibility to the other point.
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