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Post by aztecryan on Feb 16, 2022 22:01:17 GMT -8
I don't know understand what you're trying to prove? Do your own research, there's tons and tons of articles referencing the case and the federal hate crime case is currently ongoing. The information isn't hard to find at all. It was about as open and shut a case as you can find when it comes to racially-based murders/lynchings. Here's an article explaining the charges... www.fox5atlanta.com/news/malice-murder-vs-felony-murder-a-look-at-the-ahmaud-arbery-murder-trial-chargesI think your shortcomings here are related to not understanding Georgia law/specific charges that were brought against all three. You can be found guilty of murder without being the person who pulled the trigger. Georgia has no "degree" of murder charges, like we do here in California. Many states have a "The hand of one is the hand of all" laws in place, but the short answer is that the verdict is justified based on the evidence. The judge also has latitude to levy different sentences, obviously, unless there is a mandatory stipulation attached to a particular charge. Your last sentence I don't know how to interpret other than the justice system is slanted towards a lack of justice for certain types of people. I agree with that wholeheartedly, but I'm sure considering your views here you mean something else entirely. I'm sure you can find whatever you're looking for though? I do want to clarify that according to the prosecution, Bryan blocked Arbery from escaping, presumably with his vehicle, which would constitute the false imprisonment charge. That act resulted in Arbery's death, which also makes him culpable for Arbery's murder. Your response is much appreciated. You have given very informative answers to almost all of my questions. Actually, I did some research of my own, though obviously your knowledge of the case is far greater than my own. But one or two points continue to confuse me. You say, "Bryan blocked Arbery from escaping, presumably with his vehicle". You do not send a 52 year old man to prison for 30 years by presuming anything. But then, I did not study the case as deeply as you did. The one thing that remains unclear in my mind is why was Bryan (and I base this question in part on the points you raise in your response) was given a break? (Well, the possibility of parole for someone who will not be eligible until he is 82 is clearly not much of a break. His chances of surviving, if nothing else health-wise, for that long in prison are probably no better than one in ten.) In what way was he not as guilty as the father of the triggerman? The whole incident is a horror story in so many ways. (Keep in mind that the three guilty men presumably have families. My guess is that those relatives will not have an easier time than Arbery's in dealing with the results of the case.) Again, let me say that your response is much appreciated. AzWm Short answer is only Travis McMichael was found guilty of *malice* murder, while the other two were not found guilty. Both Gregory McMichael and William Bryan were found guilty of felony murder on multiple counts. Gregory McMichael and his son both actively pursued Arbery with a weapon, ultimately confronting him, which escalated into murder. Because William Bryan was not found guilty of all the charges, his sentence was not as severe - Only 6 of 9 counts. Split verdicts means different sentences. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 16, 2022 23:43:50 GMT -8
Your response is much appreciated. You have given very informative answers to almost all of my questions. Actually, I did some research of my own, though obviously your knowledge of the case is far greater than my own. But one or two points continue to confuse me. You say, "Bryan blocked Arbery from escaping, presumably with his vehicle". You do not send a 52 year old man to prison for 30 years by presuming anything. But then, I did not study the case as deeply as you did. The one thing that remains unclear in my mind is why was Bryan (and I base this question in part on the points you raise in your response) was given a break? (Well, the possibility of parole for someone who will not be eligible until he is 82 is clearly not much of a break. His chances of surviving, if nothing else health-wise, for that long in prison are probably no better than one in ten.) In what way was he not as guilty as the father of the triggerman? The whole incident is a horror story in so many ways. (Keep in mind that the three guilty men presumably have families. My guess is that those relatives will not have an easier time than Arbery's in dealing with the results of the case.) Again, let me say that your response is much appreciated. AzWm Short answer is only Travis McMichael was found guilty of *malice* murder, while the other two were not found guilty. Both Gregory McMichael and William Bryan were found guilty of felony murder on multiple counts. Gregory McMichael and his son both actively pursued Arbery with a weapon, ultimately confronting him, which escalated into murder. Because William Bryan was not found guilty of all the charges, his sentence was not as severe - Only 6 of 9 counts. Split verdicts means different sentences. That makes sense. Still, I doubt that Bryan, given his age and the 30 years he faces, appreciates how lucky he is. AzWm |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Feb 17, 2022 9:42:39 GMT -8
Short answer is only Travis McMichael was found guilty of *malice* murder, while the other two were not found guilty. Both Gregory McMichael and William Bryan were found guilty of felony murder on multiple counts. Gregory McMichael and his son both actively pursued Arbery with a weapon, ultimately confronting him, which escalated into murder. Because William Bryan was not found guilty of all the charges, his sentence was not as severe - Only 6 of 9 counts. Split verdicts means different sentences. That makes sense. Still, I doubt that Bryan, given his age and the 30 years he faces, appreciates how lucky he is. AzWm Roddie Bryant was not some white dude who so other white dudes chasing a Black dude and decided to record what was going on...he was an active participant in the killing...just like a getaway driver is just as responsible for murder even though he was not in the bank or shot the teller...what did Roddie do?...he was charged and convicted of attempting to confine, detain and commit false imprisonment of Arbery...but. but. Roddy was just filming it all you might say...but that would be wrong by his own admissions: " Bryan said he used his truck several times to cut off Arbery and edge him off the road, testified Stephan Lowrey, the lead Glynn County police investigator on the case. He said police found Arbery’s fingerprints by the truck's driver-side door, next to a dent in the body. Bryan said Arbery had tried to open the door, but he denied striking the running man. “I didn’t hit him,” Bryan said, according to an interview transcript Lowrey read in court. “Wish I would have. Might have took him out and not get him shot.” abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/defendant-ahmaud-arbery-trapped-rat-slaying-81085944Roddie admited he was in conspiracy with the McMichaels to "trap Arbery like a rat."...in all actuality...he should've stayed on his porch and mind his own business...but he let his racism/bigotry get the better of him...he saw two white guys he didn't know chasing a Black man he didn't know...so of course his racist juices started flowing...the Black guy must've done something...because we know how they are...right?!...and Roddie also knew that the law was always on the white man's side...so he could take it into his own hands without repercussion...especially against a Black man...he was right...at first that is...the local racist/bigoted cops/prosecutor brushed it under the rug...washed Arbery's blood down the sewer...and gave the murderous KKKrew an "atta boy" for ridding their white community of Blacks...it wasn't a thing to kill a Black man...to deprive him of his life, liberty and pursuit of happiness...just to send a warning that NO BLACKS ALLOWED in "their" lily-white community...or this will be their fate...but then the video came out at the behest of Arbery's mother...and it took the murder from a KKKlosed venue to a national one...and you know the rest of the story... |
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Post by azson on Feb 17, 2022 9:59:39 GMT -8
I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple.
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 17, 2022 11:42:06 GMT -8
I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple. Yeah, I don't want to be critical, but...the patterns are troubling. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Feb 17, 2022 15:22:59 GMT -8
I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple. 100% agree |
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Post by aztecryan on Feb 22, 2022 9:05:17 GMT -8
Pretty amazing that this case may never have been prosecuted at all if the video hadn't surfaced.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Feb 23, 2022 18:53:24 GMT -8
I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple. 100% agree Since you are so smart, and I am so dumb, you will not have any trouble pinpointing just what I am missing. Arbery's killers were given what I understand was a fair trial and were found guilty. On that point I think I am in step with most observers. The only question I had was why Bryan, who general opinion holds to have been as guilty as the senior McMichael, did not receive the same sentence as was given to the old man. My question is pretty much an academic one, since the chances are that Bryan will not live long enough to be considered for parole. Of course, that was before the current verdict in their federal trial. That will be announced soon. I am not aware of hate crime cases work. Will the sentences be concurrent with the state sentences, or consecutive? In any event, the three men will in all probability die in prison. I doubt there are many (outside of the McMichael and Bryan families) who will feel sorry for them. Anyone who might think that I could be one of that very small number would be 100% wrong. AzWm |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 17, 2022 0:07:23 GMT -8
It's close to a month now and nobody seems to want to explain just what "no-brainer" I am missing in this case.
As I stated earlier, I believe the trial of the three accused was a fair one. I also believe that the sentences given McMichaels and Brian were reasonable. So, again I ask, what am I missing? The only issue I raised was why Brian did not receive the same sentence that was given the other two. It's a very minor point, especially since in any event the three men are almost certainly going to die in prison.
On Feb 17th, azson posted the following:
I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple.
Well, azson, you are wrong. I just can't ignore what I see as the ugly implication of your post. To me, all lives matter equally. To kill another human deliberately and unjustifiably is the worst thing anyone can do. I do not need to call the senseless and unnecessary death of Ahmaud Arbery a lynching. It was a murder, no more or less horrific than, for example, the ambush murders of police officers. (Check this:https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/more-officers-dying-by-ambush-new-research-shows/)
I said that I detected an ugly implication in your post. That implication is a not very subtle suggestion that I may not be much concerned when a minority American is murdered by Caucasian Americans. Of course, I could be mistaken. You may not have not intended to imply any such thing. I certainly hope my reaction was unjustified.
But if that's the case, my question remains unanswered; just what "no-brainer" am I missing?
AzWm
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 17, 2022 7:42:06 GMT -8
It's close to a month now and nobody seems to want to explain just what "no-brainer" I am missing in this case. As I stated earlier, I believe the trial of the three accused was a fair one. I also believe that the sentences given McMichaels and Brian were reasonable. So, again I ask, what am I missing? The only issue I raised was why Brian did not receive the same sentence that was given the other two. It's a very minor point, especially since in any event the three men are almost certainly going to die in prison. On Feb 17th, azson posted the following: I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple.Well, azson, you are wrong. I just can't ignore what I see as the ugly implication of your post. To me, all lives matter equally. To kill another human deliberately and unjustifiably is the worst thing anyone can do. I do not need to call the senseless and unnecessary death of Ahmaud Arbery a lynching. It was a murder, no more or less horrific than, for example, the ambush murders of police officers. (Check this:https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/more-officers-dying-by-ambush-new-research-shows/) I said that I detected an ugly implication in your post. That implication is a not very subtle suggestion that I may not be much concerned when a minority American is murdered by Caucasian Americans. Of course, I could be mistaken. You may not have not intended to imply any such thing. I certainly hope my reaction was unjustified. But if that's the case, my question remains unanswered; just what "no-brainer" am I missing? AzWm Why are you still asking this? It's been explained at least twice. And your post is grossly ignorant. This was a pure, racially-motivated lynching. Period. That doesn't mean they have to hang someone from a tree for it to qualify. Arbery was lynched, point blank. The "all lives matter" mantra is whitewashing of the highest order. It's plainly disgusting, to be frank. Once more, here you go. "Murder carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison under Georgia law unless prosecutors seek the death penalty, which they opted against for Arbery's killing. For Walmsley, the main decision was whether to grant Greg and Travis McMichael, and Bryan an eventual chance to earn parole." The prosecuting attorney in the case asked for life without parole for the McMichael duo and life WITH parole for Brian. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 17, 2022 10:17:16 GMT -8
It's close to a month now and nobody seems to want to explain just what "no-brainer" I am missing in this case. As I stated earlier, I believe the trial of the three accused was a fair one. I also believe that the sentences given McMichaels and Brian were reasonable. So, again I ask, what am I missing? The only issue I raised was why Brian did not receive the same sentence that was given the other two. It's a very minor point, especially since in any event the three men are almost certainly going to die in prison. On Feb 17th, azson posted the following: I might be wrong, but this thread strikes me as yet another example of AW being obtuse to what is otherwise a no-brainer to the rest of us, in this case a modern day lynching, plain and simple.Well, azson, you are wrong. I just can't ignore what I see as the ugly implication of your post. To me, all lives matter equally. To kill another human deliberately and unjustifiably is the worst thing anyone can do. I do not need to call the senseless and unnecessary death of Ahmaud Arbery a lynching. It was a murder, no more or less horrific than, for example, the ambush murders of police officers. (Check this:https://www.newsnationnow.com/us-news/more-officers-dying-by-ambush-new-research-shows/) I said that I detected an ugly implication in your post. That implication is a not very subtle suggestion that I may not be much concerned when a minority American is murdered by Caucasian Americans. Of course, I could be mistaken. You may not have not intended to imply any such thing. I certainly hope my reaction was unjustified. But if that's the case, my question remains unanswered; just what "no-brainer" am I missing? AzWm Why are you still asking this? It's been explained at least twice. And your post is grossly ignorant. This was a pure, racially-motivated lynching. Period. That doesn't mean they have to hang someone from a tree for it to qualify. Arbery was lynched, point blank. The "all lives matter" mantra is whitewashing of the highest order. It's plainly disgusting, to be frank. Once more, here you go. "Murder carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison under Georgia law unless prosecutors seek the death penalty, which they opted against for Arbery's killing. For Walmsley, the main decision was whether to grant Greg and Travis McMichael, and Bryan an eventual chance to earn parole." The prosecuting attorney in the case asked for life without parole for the McMichael duo and life WITH parole for Brian. , you completely miss my point. Or is it that you indeed understand my point but are, for a reason I cannot say, unwilling to acknowledge it. I'll try one more time. My question about the sentence given to Brian is, of course, rather trivial. Much, much more important for purposes of this discussion is that I believe the Arbery murder was a terrible example of violence, stupidity, and prejudice. Furthermore, I take satisfaction in the fact that the legal system worked as it should do in such cases. Are you with me so far, Ryan? What bothers me is the implication inherent in azson's accusation that I am somehow missing an important aspect of the Arbery case. Worse, he accuses me of habitually miss-understanding important aspects of politically charged cases. Is azson's point that I am a racist, or just stupid? Or ... or what? Try as I might, I cannot imagine an interpretation of azson's post that might be considered complimentary. Perhaps he does not owe me an apology, but he certainly owes me an explanation of just what his statement was intended to imply. There is more to be said about the Arbery case. A lot more. But at the moment I will have to wait until I have time to compose and share my thoughts. Meanwhile, Ryan, try to comment, if at all, on what I am actually saying. Here's a clue; it's not about the different sentences given to the three defendants. AzWm |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 17, 2022 10:31:31 GMT -8
Why are you still asking this? It's been explained at least twice. And your post is grossly ignorant. This was a pure, racially-motivated lynching. Period. That doesn't mean they have to hang someone from a tree for it to qualify. Arbery was lynched, point blank. The "all lives matter" mantra is whitewashing of the highest order. It's plainly disgusting, to be frank. Once more, here you go. "Murder carries a mandatory sentence of life in prison under Georgia law unless prosecutors seek the death penalty, which they opted against for Arbery's killing. For Walmsley, the main decision was whether to grant Greg and Travis McMichael, and Bryan an eventual chance to earn parole." The prosecuting attorney in the case asked for life without parole for the McMichael duo and life WITH parole for Brian. , you completely miss my point. Or is it that you indeed understand my point but are, for a reason I cannot say, unwilling to acknowledge it. I'll try one more time. My question about the sentence given to Brian is, of course, rather trivial. Much, much more important for purposes of this discussion is that I believe the Arbery murder was a terrible example of violence, stupidity, and prejudice. Furthermore, I take satisfaction in the fact that the legal system worked as it should do in such cases. Are you with me so far, Ryan? What bothers me is the implication inherent in azson's accusation that I am somehow missing an important aspect of the Arbery case. Worse, he accuses me of habitually miss-understanding important aspects of politically charged cases. Is azson's point that I am a racist, or just stupid? Or ... or what? Try as I might, I cannot imagine an interpretation of azson's post that might be considered complimentary. Perhaps he does not owe me an apology, but he certainly owes me an explanation of just what his statement was intended to imply. There is more to be said about the Arbery case. A lot more. But at the moment I will have to wait until I have time to compose and share my thoughts. Meanwhile, Ryan, try to comment, if at all, on what I am actually saying. Here's a clue; it's not about the different sentences given to the three defendants. AzWm He called you obtuse. Which, sadly, you seem to be. Going over your posting history with regards to this issue (societal racism), the insurrection and a host of other topics....it seems pretty obvious? You're either being disingenuous on purpose or you just don't take the time to be informed. Not sure which one is worse? You also get caught up in trivial matters to seemingly be argumentative for no functional purpose. I'd have to agree with him, unfortunately. Things like this: "We have all heard of "driving while black." I hope Brian was not prosecuted for "riding with White racists." If we want to call the McMichaels racists, okay. But was there evidence given that Brian had a history of derogatory statements or action aimed at African-Americans? Even if such evidence had been given, that alone would not justify a life sentence. I trust someone with a detailed knowledge of the trial can respond to my queries regarding this case." Serve absolutely no purpose, are tone-deaf and yes, even casually racist in nature. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 18, 2022 21:49:53 GMT -8
Well, I guess I can be happy that I am only "casually racist".
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 18, 2022 22:09:16 GMT -8
Well, I guess I can be happy that I am only "casually racist". AzWm Consider the source. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 18, 2022 22:28:09 GMT -8
Well, I guess I can be happy that I am only "casually racist". AzWm Consider the source. Look in a mirror? Add something to the conversation or just plainly please stop attacking me for no other reason than you disagree with me. Your obsession with me is weird. Let go. My stance isn't to blame here, William's repeated desire to undermine important talking points is. It's the same thing over and over - "Insurrection or riot? "Why hasn't been anyone charged with sedition?" "Why was Bryan not given life without parole?" "Black Lives Matter destroyed buildings and caused billions in property damage." And then in the same vein "All lives matter" is not even subtly racist, it's out there racist. It diminishes the current struggle of the specific group of people that are being harmed by making it out to be like everyone is - It's not productive, conducive to healthy debate or done in good faith. There is a stark contrast between genuine curiosity on important topics that is well-intentioned....and this. This is not that. How is something so simple so controversial? |
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 18, 2022 22:43:48 GMT -8
Look in a mirror? Add something to the conversation or just plainly please stop attacking me for no other reason than you disagree with me. Your obsession with me is weird. Let go. My stance isn't to blame here, William's repeated desire to undermine important talking points is. It's the same thing over and over - "Insurrection or riot? "Why hasn't been anyone charged with sedition?" "Why was Bryan not given life without parole?" "Black Lives Matter destroyed buildings and caused billions in property damage." And then in the same vein "All lives matter" is not even subtly racist, it's out there racist. It diminishes the current struggle of the specific group of people that are being harmed - It's not productive, conducive to healthy debate or done in good faith. How is something so simple so controversial? You should be the LAST one to talk about attacking someone. Sheesh. Hah!!! Practice what you preach. You attack people CONSTANTLY in your demeaning, condescending ways. That's no secret. Look in THAT mirror, and I'm not the only saying this. I'm just calling you out on stuff. There is absolutely ZERO obsession with you, so don't be so narcissistic to think I must have one . It just so happens to be that my pet peeve is when someone treats others the way you do at times, and in turn, it compels me to speak up and it just so happens that you're constantly doing this. That's it. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 19, 2022 0:23:07 GMT -8
"Black Lives Matter destroyed buildings and caused billions in property damage." And then in the same vein "All lives matter" is not even subtly racist, it's out there racist. It diminishes the current struggle of the specific group of people that are being harmed - It's not productive, conducive to healthy debate or done in good faith.
Ryan, again I ask the following; if all lives don't matter, which is EXACTLY what your response to my use of that phrase amounts to, WHICH LIVES DO NOT MATTER? To say that "all lives matter" is racist is repugnant. And, while we are at it, thousands of buildings and businesses WERE destroyed in 2020 and many people were killed or injured. By the way, I don't think I said that BLM was to blame for all that. If I said that I shouldn't have, since I don't think BLM as an organization has been charged.
I have no doubt that a majority of those who demonstrated against police brutality were sincere and did not resort to violence. But somebody committed all those crimes, and I don't believe they were conservatives, libertarians, or Trump supporters. As for the events of January 6th, 2021, quite a few people have been arrested and are being prosecuted. That's as it should be. How many people have been prosecuted for resorting to violence in 2020? Not many, if I am correct. Of course, many were not even arrested. Furthermore, 1-6-21 is constantly in the news, while the Summer of 2020 seems never to have happened.
When I was in junior high going into high school in the mid 1950s, the worst thing you could say about someone was that he was a communist. Now the worst thing you can say is that a person is a racist. Using the modifier "casually" does not make the charge the less serious. Unfortunately, in this case I do not expect to receive the apology that I clearly deserve.
AzWm
PS: Ryan, just what magical powers do you possess that enables you to determine whether a person is arguing in good faith?
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 19, 2022 5:32:01 GMT -8
"Black Lives Matter destroyed buildings and caused billions in property damage." And then in the same vein "All lives matter" is not even subtly racist, it's out there racist. It diminishes the current struggle of the specific group of people that are being harmed - It's not productive, conducive to healthy debate or done in good faith.
Ryan, again I ask the following; if all lives don't matter, which is EXACTLY what your response to my use of that phrase amounts to, WHICH LIVES DO NOT MATTER? To say that "all lives matter" is racist is repugnant. And, while we are at it, thousands of buildings and businesses WERE destroyed in 2020 and many people were killed or injured. By the way, I don't think I said that BLM was to blame for all that. If I said that I shouldn't have, since I don't think BLM as an organization has been charged. I have no doubt that a majority of those who demonstrated against police brutality were sincere and did not resort to violence. But somebody committed all those crimes, and I don't believe they were conservatives, libertarians, or Trump supporters. As for the events of January 6th, 2021, quite a few people have been arrested and are being prosecuted. That's as it should be. How many people have been prosecuted for resorting to violence in 2020? Not many, if I am correct. Of course, many were not even arrested. Furthermore, 1-6-21 is constantly in the news, while the Summer of 2020 seems never to have happened. When I was in junior high going into high school in the mid 1950s, the worst thing you could say about someone was that he was a communist. Now the worst thing you can say is that a person is a racist. Using the modifier "casually" does not make the charge the less serious. Unfortunately, in this case I do not expect to receive the apology that I clearly deserve. AzWm PS: Ryan, just what magical powers do you possess that enables you to determine whether a person is arguing in good faith? "Don't beleive they were Conservatives, Libertarians or trump supporters"? William, the majority of those people who were creating havoc were anarchists and young punks. This was exacerbated by the covid situation...and most probably don't even vote. But somehow, they were Democrats? hmmm, I didn't see any political affiliation indicated and they didn't wear uniforms. Punks like that have been an element of our society forever. However, the people who broke into the Capitol Building did wear uniforms, and they said "Maga" and Trump. There is no comparison...nice try. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Mar 20, 2022 12:41:32 GMT -8
"Don't believe they were Conservatives, Libertarians or trump supporters"? William, the majority of those people who were creating havoc were anarchists and young punks. This was exacerbated by the covid situation...and most probably don't even vote. But somehow, they were Democrats? hmmm, I didn't see any political affiliation indicated and they didn't wear uniforms. Punks like that have been an element of our society forever. However, the people who broke into the Capitol Building did wear uniforms, and they said "Maga" and Trump. There is no comparison...nice try.
Okay, let's see if we can straighten out a couple of things.
1) Were there
Rank Date Location Nominal Dollars 2020 Dollars
1 August 2020 Several $1B–$2B $1B–$2B
2 April–May 1992 Los Angeles $775M $1.4B
3 August 1965 Los Angeles $44M $357M
4 July 1967 Detroit $42M $322M
5 May 1980 Miami $65M $204M
6 April 1968 Washington, D.C.$24M $179M
7 July 1977 New York City $28M $118M
8 July 1967 Newark $15M $115M
9 April 1968 Baltimore $14M $104M
10 April 1968 Chicago $13M $97M
11 August 2020 Kenosha $50M $50M
12 April 1968 New York City $4M $30M
13 April 2015 Baltimore $24M $26M
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 20, 2022 14:06:25 GMT -8
"Don't believe they were Conservatives, Libertarians or trump supporters"? William, the majority of those people who were creating havoc were anarchists and young punks. This was exacerbated by the covid situation...and most probably don't even vote. But somehow, they were Democrats? hmmm, I didn't see any political affiliation indicated and they didn't wear uniforms. Punks like that have been an element of our society forever. However, the people who broke into the Capitol Building did wear uniforms, and they said "Maga" and Trump. There is no comparison...nice try. Okay, let's see if we can straighten out a couple of things. 1) Were there Rank Date Location Nominal Dollars 2020 Dollars 1 August 2020 Several $1B–$2B $1B–$2B 2 April–May 1992 Los Angeles $775M $1.4B 3 August 1965 Los Angeles $44M $357M 4 July 1967 Detroit $42M $322M 5 May 1980 Miami $65M $204M 6 April 1968 Washington, D.C.$24M $179M 7 July 1977 New York City $28M $118M 8 July 1967 Newark $15M $115M 9 April 1968 Baltimore $14M $104M 10 April 1968 Chicago $13M $97M 11 August 2020 Kenosha $50M $50M 12 April 1968 New York City $4M $30M 13 April 2015 Baltimore $24M $26M I literally have no idea what you are saying here. |
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