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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 14:15:16 GMT -8
We do not lose if the trial gives both sides a chance to present their arguments and the jury thoughtfully considers the evidence. I think that was the case in the Rittehouse trial. AzWm Stop it. You're making too much sense with all your posts. (Sarcasm) Tell me you know nothing without telling me. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 19, 2021 14:24:36 GMT -8
Stop it. You're making too much sense with all your posts. (Sarcasm) Tell me you know nothing without telling me. Congratulations, you're one of the those will reach and TRY to make a race case out of of a trial that had zero people of color involved. Perpetuator much? Teacher much? Sheesh. Talk about someone who knows zero about how to conduct themselves. Sheesh |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 19, 2021 14:25:18 GMT -8
We do not lose if the trial gives both sides a chance to present their arguments and the jury thoughtfully considers the evidence. I think that was the case in the Rittehouse trial. AzWm And this is completely blind to the reality of what happened in actuality. But if you can sleep comfortably, I guess that's great? We can/should do better than this. Get some help Ryan. You are no crusader. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 15:25:08 GMT -8
Tell me you know nothing without telling me. Congratulations, you're one of the those will reach and TRY to make a race case out of of a trial that had zero people of color involved. Perpetuator much? Teacher much? Sheesh. Talk about someone who knows zero about how to conduct themselves. Sheesh How do you not understand this? Let's try it again, with smaller words. *This case* is not about individual racism. This VERDICT is another example of white privilege manifesting itself in plain view. If you seriously do not believe as you stated that the verdict would not have been different had Rittenhouse not been white, you're lying or delusional. If your position is that you view no issues within the justice system, you're just wrong. |
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 19, 2021 15:27:01 GMT -8
aztecryan, what "happened in actuality"?
Have you watched what happened on tape? Did you watch much of the trial?
If you really are interested in "justice" then you should be happy that an innocent man did not go to jail.
Don't let Ideology blind you to reality. You will become (maybe you already have?) the thing that you are supposably against.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 15:43:25 GMT -8
aztecryan, what "happened in actuality"? Have you watched what happened on tape? Did you watch much of the trial? If you really are interested in "justice" then you should be happy that an innocent man did not go to jail. Don't let Ideology blind you to reality. You will become (maybe you already have?) the thing that you are supposably against. Not interested in mental gymnastics. I watched the trial. Not guilty and innocent, again, are not the same thing. I watched (and have the video clips) of the judge berating a prosecuting attorney, establishing bias right away with the use of "rioters" and "looters" and painting Rittenhouse as a victim rather than the people he shot. Your idea of "justice" is a sham, so I'm perfectly okay being opposite of that. |
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Post by Obsidian Edge on Nov 19, 2021 15:46:31 GMT -8
To all of those critical of the outcome, what trial were you watching? You seem completely detached from the facts of the case and/or the concept of self defense.
1. Where are you getting your information?
2. Stop posting platitudes and actually provide a substantive argument as to why you think he's guilty. You sound unhinged otherwise.
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 19, 2021 15:55:17 GMT -8
aztecryan, what "happened in actuality"? Have you watched what happened on tape? Did you watch much of the trial? If you really are interested in "justice" then you should be happy that an innocent man did not go to jail. Don't let Ideology blind you to reality. You will become (maybe you already have?) the thing that you are supposably against. Not interested in mental gymnastics. I watched the trial. Not guilty and innocent, again, are not the same thing. I watched (and have the video clips) of the judge berating a prosecuting attorney, establishing bias right away with the use of "rioters" and "looters" and painting Rittenhouse as a victim rather than the people he shot. Your idea of "justice" is a sham, so I'm perfectly okay being opposite of that. So you are saying that Kyle was guilty of murder? |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 15:59:00 GMT -8
Not interested in mental gymnastics. I watched the trial. Not guilty and innocent, again, are not the same thing. I watched (and have the video clips) of the judge berating a prosecuting attorney, establishing bias right away with the use of "rioters" and "looters" and painting Rittenhouse as a victim rather than the people he shot. Your idea of "justice" is a sham, so I'm perfectly okay being opposite of that. So you are saying that Kyle was guilty of murder? Pretty clear how I feel. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 19, 2021 16:00:12 GMT -8
Congratulations, you're one of the those will reach and TRY to make a race case out of of a trial that had zero people of color involved. Perpetuator much? Teacher much? Sheesh. Talk about someone who knows zero about how to conduct themselves. Sheesh How do you not understand this? Let's try it again, with smaller words. *This case* is not about individual racism. This VERDICT is another example of white privilege manifesting itself in plain view. If you seriously do not believe as you stated that the verdict would not have been different had Rittenhouse not been white, you're lying or delusional. If your position is that you view no issues within the justice system, you're just wrong. At the same time, I'll need to dumb it down for YOU. Did you not hear all the evidence? One of the individuals that was shot at, TESTIFIED that he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse first and that's just for starters. ANYBODY that was found guilty with all the evidence to the contrary would have been a big time travesty. Now, go ahead and twist it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 16:02:30 GMT -8
How do you not understand this? Let's try it again, with smaller words. *This case* is not about individual racism. This VERDICT is another example of white privilege manifesting itself in plain view. If you seriously do not believe as you stated that the verdict would not have been different had Rittenhouse not been white, you're lying or delusional. If your position is that you view no issues within the justice system, you're just wrong. At the same time, I'll need to dumb it down for YOU. Did you not hear all the evidence? One of the individuals that was shot at TESTIFIED that he pointed his gun at Rittenhouse first and that's just for starters. ANYBODY that was found guilty with all the evidence to the contrary would have been a big time travesty. Now, go ahead and twist it. I don't need to do that. The victims were on trial, not Rittenhouse. If you have zero qualms with the behavior and actions of Judge Schroeder, then that says all I need to know. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 19, 2021 16:05:07 GMT -8
To all of those critical of the outcome, what trial were you watching? You seem completely detached from the facts of the case and/or the concept of self defense. 1. Where are you getting your information? 2. Stop posting platitudes and actually provide a substantive argument as to why you think he's guilty. You sound unhinged otherwise. They're in the minority, but they'll twist it harder than Chubby Checker ever could. The lengths they go on reaching to find a fault, is nothing more than laughable. |
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 19, 2021 16:05:19 GMT -8
So you are saying that Kyle was guilty of murder? Pretty clear how I feel. It honestly is not clear to me. Why not just say it clearly? Do you think Kyle was guilty of murder? |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 16:06:44 GMT -8
To all of those critical of the outcome, what trial were you watching? You seem completely detached from the facts of the case and/or the concept of self defense. 1. Where are you getting your information? 2. Stop posting platitudes and actually provide a substantive argument as to why you think he's guilty. You sound unhinged otherwise. They're in the minority, but they'll twist it harder than Chubby Checker ever could. The lengths they go on reaching to find a fault, is nothing more than laughable. You're in the minority, actually. Tonedeaf, upholding systemic white privilege while casting a blind eye towards real societal change. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 16:07:37 GMT -8
It honestly is not clear to me. Why not just say it clearly? Do you think Kyle was guilty of murder? Because I don't feel the need to justify it to someone who clearly doesn't share my perspective and won't under any circumstances agree on fundamental issues? Sorry, just not my thing. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 19, 2021 16:17:37 GMT -8
They're in the minority, but they'll twist it harder than Chubby Checker ever could. The lengths they go on reaching to find a fault, is nothing more than laughable. You're in the minority, actually. Tonedeaf, upholding systemic white privilege while casting a blind eye towards real societal change. Why did you, in another thread, say you can make a case that it was not murder? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. |
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Post by 84aztec96 on Nov 19, 2021 16:18:18 GMT -8
What fundamental issue do we need to agree upon in order to understand each other?
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 16:21:23 GMT -8
You're in the minority, actually. Tonedeaf, upholding systemic white privilege while casting a blind eye towards real societal change. Why did you, in another thread, say you can make a case that it was murder? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Why can't you ever just respond with something of substance? Your echo chamber is very small if you truly believe that you're on the side of the majority here. Fox News, Newsmax, Candace Owens. Beyond that, we don't need to promote/uphold white supremacy. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 19, 2021 16:23:56 GMT -8
What fundamental issue do we need to agree upon in order to understand each other? Two systems of justice, Rittenhouse had no business being in Kenosha, no business parading his gun around intimidating people and should never have involved himself in a situation where "self-defense" was necessary. If I go to another city with an AR-15, I don't expect peace. And I'm not 17 years old on top of it. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 19, 2021 16:24:34 GMT -8
Why did you, in another thread, say you can make a case that it was murder? You're talking out of both sides of your mouth. Why can't you ever just respond with something of substance? Your echo chamber is very small if you truly believe that you're on the side of the majority here. Fox News, Newsmax, Candace Owens. Beyond that, we don't need to promote/uphold white supremacy. Skirt around it all you want. Are you going to answer the question? By the way I should have said, "not" murder. |
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