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Post by aztecron on Dec 4, 2010 10:33:15 GMT -8
Nice, get rid of the only guy on our team that could do anything at the plate. I think I've just about had enough of the padres. I'm sorry, I like pitching and defense, but every once in a while it's a thrill to see someone just power a ball over the fence. But Headley can't do it, Venable can't hit more than .220 in a given month, Cabrera never could, Blanks looked just awful doing anything at the plate, you saw what happened to Ludwick, and Maybin is about to find out what all the other players know: That Petco is a singles park. The gaps in Petco are where HRs and doubles go to die. So after a few games of stealing bases at will they go back to station to station. Moneyball by another name. I know we couldn't pay him and we had to trade him, but now that he's gone get Moorad's bitch ass to pull the fences in a little so the game isn't so one dimensional. I'm curious to see if Blanks starts the year with the big league club, or AAA. I guess it depends on his spring training success, or lack thereof. He looked clueless at the plate often last season, but I like his potential. He's still very young. Bill Center of the UT thinks there's no way he's in the bigs until after some time spent in AAA rebuilding his confidence next season.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 4, 2010 10:34:35 GMT -8
I think the goal of the new front office is to get young, exciting players that the fans can grow accustomed to and root for as they grow up. san diego has always loved the younger players that show promise.. ben davis, sean burroughs, khalil greene etc
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Post by aztecron on Dec 4, 2010 10:35:52 GMT -8
Yeah well he's a left handed bat too.. Does he have opposite field power??!? I don't understand why the front office has never targeted a right handed power bat. Rizzo seems like he's still at least a year away. I was wondering the same thing. If this kid is great then we take him, but if RH pull power is what's needed in our park then search out that talent for gosh sakes.
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Post by jonnyaztec94 on Dec 4, 2010 13:18:09 GMT -8
"Cheap" is the Padres first, middle, and last name. Sad day when our payroll becomes the lowest in baseball Given a choice, I wish we could keep the Chargers and have the Padres move.
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Post by The Flying Dutchman on Dec 4, 2010 14:12:17 GMT -8
I think the goal of the new front office is to get young, exciting players that the fans can grow accustomed to and root for as they grow up. san diego has always loved the younger players that show promise.. ben davis, sean burroughs, khalil greene etc It seems like as soon as we grow to like the young players, they are shipped off.. the reason the yankees and the power teams in baseball are so good is because they find ways to keep their best players, and we seem to raise young talent, but as soon as they mature into ballplayers, we deal them out.. not mad about adrian leaving, saw it coming, but we need to start keeping our best players in San Diego and not trading them as soon as they become good, and then trading them for even younger, questionable players
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 4, 2010 14:30:57 GMT -8
I hope the prospects they got from Boston can contribute at the Major league level. It is one thing to stock your farm system, but the Padres need some run producers in the line up ASAP.
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Post by k5james on Dec 4, 2010 14:55:02 GMT -8
I knew Adrian was gone but to not get at last ONE MLB ready prospect...
And they wonder why they have an apathetic fanbase...
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 4, 2010 15:15:49 GMT -8
The Pads got 3 scrubs for one of the best players in Baseball. "Value for value," right??
The prospects are scrubs until they prove otherwise. Their stats are hardly overwhelming. They don't scream, "Absolute major league lock." They have mediocre stats. Maybe they'll develop into star players, but the odds say, "No."
The Padres have an absolutely awful team heading into next season. They just gave away 25% of their offense and have no way to replace it. And it was the lack of offense that kept them out of the playoffs this last season.
Gonzalez isn't the only one gone, he's just the highest profile player gone.
I just can't support this crap. The Padres can't afford Boston or New York or Chicago payrolls, but they can afford a hell of a lot more than the absolute lowest in the league, which is what they now have.
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Post by Deja Vu U Monty on Dec 4, 2010 16:06:43 GMT -8
Blanks is projected to be out till around mid-season recovering from that surgery still. Pads will need to sign some scrub for at least part of the year. Sure glad they aren't getting another dime out of me anymore.
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 4, 2010 17:57:03 GMT -8
The Pads got 3 scrubs for one of the best players in Baseball. "Value for value," right?? The prospects are scrubs until they prove otherwise. Their stats are hardly overwhelming. They don't scream, "Absolute major league lock." They have mediocre stats. Maybe they'll develop into star players, but the odds say, "No." The Padres have an absolutely awful team heading into next season. They just gave away 25% of their offense and have no way to replace it. And it was the lack of offense that kept them out of the playoffs this last season. Gonzalez isn't the only one gone, he's just the highest profile player gone. I just can't support this crap. The Padres can't afford Boston or New York or Chicago payrolls, but they can afford a hell of a lot more than the absolute lowest in the league, which is what they now have. Well, I wouldn't call them scrubs at this point. Look at how Rizzos stats compared to Adrians at the same level, almost identical. Most services rank all these guys very high, especially Kelly. Kelly and Latos could be the 1-2 of a special rotation in 2012 (until we trade Latos for prospects). Personally, I wouldn't have made the deal without Ellsbury or Jed Lowrie (we need a SS) included. But the prospects seem legit. Agree 100% on the payroll. We should be at $60M-$75M at this point. If Moorad and co. enter the season at $30M, that is pathetic. The lineup as it stands today is HORSE $#!+.
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 4, 2010 17:58:36 GMT -8
Blanks is projected to be out till around mid-season recovering from that surgery still. Pads will need to sign some scrub for at least part of the year. Sure glad they aren't getting another dime out of me anymore. I am sure Hoyer is on the phone to the agents for Geoff Blum and Ty Wigginton already. Awesome!!!
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Dec 4, 2010 19:58:43 GMT -8
The Pads got 3 scrubs for one of the best players in Baseball. "Value for value," right?? The prospects are scrubs until they prove otherwise. Their stats are hardly overwhelming. They don't scream, "Absolute major league lock." They have mediocre stats. Maybe they'll develop into star players, but the odds say, "No." The Padres have an absolutely awful team heading into next season. They just gave away 25% of their offense and have no way to replace it. And it was the lack of offense that kept them out of the playoffs this last season. Gonzalez isn't the only one gone, he's just the highest profile player gone. I just can't support this crap. The Padres can't afford Boston or New York or Chicago payrolls, but they can afford a hell of a lot more than the absolute lowest in the league, which is what they now have. Well, I wouldn't call them scrubs at this point. Look at how Rizzos stats compared to Adrians at the same level, almost identical. Most services rank all these guys very high, especially Kelly. Kelly and Latos could be the 1-2 of a special rotation in 2012 (until we trade Latos for prospects). Their stats thus far aren't any different from a lot of guys who are just guys, not hot prospects. These guys have yet to prove that they really are worth all the hype. I've just seen so many hyped players become huge busts that I can't get excited about ANY prospects anymore. Especially not when we lose our only top notch player in the deal. That sums it up pretty well.
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Post by survalli on Dec 5, 2010 1:38:04 GMT -8
reminds me of the Fred McGriff fire sale...similarities abound. 1st basemen, lefthanded bat...sent away in the prime of his career for 3 unproven prospects. traded away to a team willing to protect and show love to their players.. I guess Moores could only find Moorad...what a f****** joke....why would you buy a baseball team if you couldnt afford it.
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 6, 2010 10:08:18 GMT -8
Some might take exception to whether Werth was worth it (MLB bigwigs were said to be apoplectic over it), but few could disagree with the Red Sox-Padres swap which solved Boston's need for a big bat and got San Diego started on a rebuilding process with blue-chip prospects Casey Kelly (an athletic righthanded pitcher), lefthanded-hitting power first baseman Anthony Rizzo, and speedy outfielder Reymond Fuentes, Carlos Beltran's cousin whose tools much more closely resemble Jacoby Ellsbury's. One GM wondered if San Diego might have added "at least one major leaguer'' but it wasn't a bad haul considering Gonzalez had only one year let on his contract and an arm in a sling following offseason shoulder surgeryRead more: sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/jon_heyman/12/06/winter.meetings.preview/index.html#ixzz17M9Hiy9E
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Post by cvtower on Dec 6, 2010 11:03:42 GMT -8
I think the goal of the new front office is to get young, exciting players that the fans can grow accustomed to and root for as they grow up. san diego has always loved the younger players that show promise.. ben davis, sean burroughs, khalil greene etc It seems like as soon as we grow to like the young players, they are shipped off.. the reason the yankees and the power teams in baseball are so good is because they find ways to keep their best players, and we seem to raise young talent, but as soon as they mature into ballplayers, we deal them out.. not mad about adrian leaving, saw it coming, but we need to start keeping our best players in San Diego and not trading them as soon as they become good, and then trading them for even younger, questionable players Welcome to my world when I was an Montreal Expos fan
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Post by joshjones1 on Dec 6, 2010 11:35:37 GMT -8
It seems like as soon as we grow to like the young players, they are shipped off.. the reason the yankees and the power teams in baseball are so good is because they find ways to keep their best players, and we seem to raise young talent, but as soon as they mature into ballplayers, we deal them out.. not mad about adrian leaving, saw it coming, but we need to start keeping our best players in San Diego and not trading them as soon as they become good, and then trading them for even younger, questionable players Welcome to my world when I was an Montreal Expos fan Ah, what could have been in 1994.
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Post by aztecron on Dec 6, 2010 11:36:16 GMT -8
The Pads got 3 scrubs for one of the best players in Baseball. "Value for value," right?? The prospects are scrubs until they prove otherwise. Their stats are hardly overwhelming. They don't scream, "Absolute major league lock." They have mediocre stats. Maybe they'll develop into star players, but the odds say, "No." The Padres have an absolutely awful team heading into next season. They just gave away 25% of their offense and have no way to replace it. And it was the lack of offense that kept them out of the playoffs this last season. Gonzalez isn't the only one gone, he's just the highest profile player gone. I just can't support this crap. The Padres can't afford Boston or New York or Chicago payrolls, but they can afford a hell of a lot more than the absolute lowest in the league, which is what they now have. Agree 100% on the payroll. We should be at $60M-$75M at this point. If Moorad and co. enter the season at $30M, that is pathetic. The lineup as it stands today is HORSE $#!+. I agree, we don't even have a lineup at this point. We can't put eight MLB worthy players on the field at this point in time. WTH is that all about? Canceling my Extra innings package on DirecTV for this season. Ain't gonna pay 200 plus dollars to watch the Pad's lose each night and then go to bed pissed off.
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Post by Blanco on Dec 6, 2010 22:38:44 GMT -8
Long time lurker here, first time poster.
All Padres fans knew this day would come eventually so for me, it doesn't hurt so bad. Adrian wasn't going to get paid so we were better off getting something in return rather than seeing him walk and picking up draft picks at the end of the season. However, I thought he would be dealt close to the deadline.
The most disappointing thing by-far is the fact we won 90 games last season but the front office seems content on conceding next season rather than building on last years success. I would have liked to have seen the Pads pick up some prospects that were closer to major-league ready.
Time will tell if this was a fair trade, its not uncommon for big names to be moved for impact prospects (see Cleveland and Texas). But as of right now our lineup has more holes in it than Chase Headleys swing.
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Post by cvtower on Dec 16, 2010 15:57:11 GMT -8
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Post by azson on Dec 16, 2010 16:20:27 GMT -8
Awesome, .224 career averge! Pads lineup is set now!
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