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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 21, 2021 14:11:03 GMT -8
Is that the laughter of the CCP as they increase influence and control of our politicians, Wall St, Big Tech, Trade, Sports and Entertainment all while lecturing us about our Human Rights violations? Or the laughter of the Russian oligarchs that get to pipe oil to Germany while the US, in fealty to RR Unions, relegate our oil delivery methods to the 19th century and we go from an energy independent country to a foreign energy dependent country? Or the laughter of the Venezuelan Government officials that see the US slipping into Hyperinflation and envision all of its predictable effects on us like our lowered standard of living, reduced investments, ruined retirement plans, stagnant economy, weakened dollar, etc? Or the laughter of the leaders of the Mexican Cartels as they receive millions and millions in extortion money as the poor from all over world and give them their last bit of money before entering the US (and sending over some extra Heroin and fentanyl for good measure)? Or the laughter from the world's military leaders as they see people falling from our airplanes and having a stuck torso flapping like a surrender flag (I doubt the French or Italians ever suffered that indignity as their airplanes retreated)? Clinton was impeached and how did that affect him? Any conviction? No? Gee - strange how that worked out. Loud noises. Ryan, once again I point out that failure to respond to specific points made by those who hold different views is proof that you are incapable of rationally arguing in a political debate. Either that or just too lazy. This is just the kind of attitude I fear will be common from those who will, should be end up with a long-term one party government, support that government. "We can just ignore your contrary views, since we run everything and do not have to fear the accountability that characterizes multi-party governance.." Of course, it's possible that such a government will go far beyond merely ignoring political opponents. Example: what has happened to democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. Anyone who things that could never happen in America is foolish. AzWm
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 21, 2021 14:19:59 GMT -8
Ryan, once again I point out that failure to respond to specific points made by those who hold different views is proof that you are incapable of rationally arguing in a political debate. Either that or just too lazy. This is just the kind of attitude I fear will be common from those who will, should be end up with a long-term one party government, support that government. "We can just ignore your contrary views, since we run everything and do not have to fear the accountability that characterizes multi-party governance.." Of course, it's possible that such a government will go far beyond merely ignoring political opponents. Example: what has happened to democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. Anyone who things that could never happen in America is foolish. AzWm Your evidence of this is cherrypicking a post of right-wing talking points, while ignoring the fact you can't answer basic, repeated questions on elementary topics? Talk about bad faith denial. The OP tried to tell me once that sources of where news is provided don't matter. That's the most idiotic and asinine statement I've read in quite some time and it doesn't dignify a response. That's NOT rational by any stretch. I don't engage with conspiracy theorists who parrot out the same stuff over and over. I'm sorry. That doesn't mean I'm not capable of *rational* debate. Can you attempt to answer the host of questions you have avoided? Do you need them repeated for a third or fourth time? I happen to think I'm pretty rational.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 21, 2021 14:23:07 GMT -8
Objectivity and bias matter. Sorry, but to indicate otherwise isn't a real argument, it's just purely false. Trash like this, for instance. www.breitbart.com/clips/2021/08/18/trump-i-realized-i-had-hired-a-loser-in-mark-milley/Having known several Marines who served under James Mattis personally, I can assure you he's not "the most overrated general in the world." Publishing toilet paper like this isn't worth any amount of oxygen or effort. What does Gen Mattis have to do with the idiocy of this Administration? It's not about Mattis, it's about the obvious agenda of where your news and subsequent talking points come from. Loaded language, right-wing extremist trashcan material.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 21, 2021 14:25:06 GMT -8
Ryan, once again I point out that failure to respond to specific points made by those who hold different views is proof that you are incapable of rationally arguing in a political debate. Either that or just too lazy. This is just the kind of attitude I fear will be common from those who will, should be end up with a long-term one party government, support that government. "We can just ignore your contrary views, since we run everything and do not have to fear the accountability that characterizes multi-party governance.." Of course, it's possible that such a government will go far beyond merely ignoring political opponents. Example: what has happened to democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. Anyone who things that could never happen in America is foolish. AzWm I agree - It happened under the last administration when protesters were gassed in Lafayette Square for a photo op.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 24, 2021 16:31:05 GMT -8
Ryan, once again I point out that failure to respond to specific points made by those who hold different views is proof that you are incapable of rationally arguing in a political debate. Either that or just too lazy. This is just the kind of attitude I fear will be common from those who will, should be end up with a long-term one party government, support that government. "We can just ignore your contrary views, since we run everything and do not have to fear the accountability that characterizes multi-party governance.." Of course, it's possible that such a government will go far beyond merely ignoring political opponents. Example: what has happened to democracy demonstrators in Hong Kong. Anyone who things that could never happen in America is foolish. AzWm I agree - It happened under the last administration when protesters were gassed in Lafayette Square for a photo op. Here are some nice stats - The House passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Act with zero Republicans, yes, zero Republicans voting in favor of it.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 24, 2021 18:18:29 GMT -8
I agree - It happened under the last administration when protesters were gassed in Lafayette Square for a photo op. Here are some nice stats - The House passed the John Lewis Voting Rights Act with zero Republicans, yes, zero Republicans voting in favor of it. and you are shocked at a 0 on a scale of10??
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 25, 2021 3:15:20 GMT -8
From the party that championed the cause for moral righteousness... Her entire lineage forgot to evolve several generations ago. She's got a face only Fred Flinstone would love.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 25, 2021 3:20:07 GMT -8
Ryan, many aspects of Trump's presidency were a problem. Charging him with orchestrating a coup is pretty bold. At least as bold as the Dems who kept saying that Trump was in a conspiracy with Vladimir Putin. In my opinion, there is more reason to lend credibility to this charge than to the Trump-is-a-Russian-agent claim. I do think that Trump wanted the Congress to overturn the election. It's not impossible that he truly believes he won. But was it an expressed desire that some others tried to engineer on their own? Or was it a plan hatched specifically in the Oval Office. I hope all such charges will be investigated thoroughly. That's why I am so disappointed that the Speaker went out of her way to ensure that the House investigation's conclusions will be dismissed by nearly half the country. Even if those conclusions have merit. AzWm The entire Russian crap was the only criminal thing Trump did the Dems didn't also do. That's why the Dems went there instead of the laundry list of other impeachable offenses that would also expose Dems. Our duopoly is one of the most corrupt governments in human history and we still got fanbots from both parties fighting each other like they designed
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 28, 2021 10:15:19 GMT -8
From the party that championed the cause for moral righteousness... Her entire lineage forgot to evolve several generations ago. She's got a face only Fred Flinstone would love. Attacking a woman because you do not like her face? How very progressive of you! AzWm
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 28, 2021 11:02:12 GMT -8
Her entire lineage forgot to evolve several generations ago. She's got a face only Fred Flinstone would love. Attacking a woman because you do not like her face? How very progressive of you! AzWm her face is not the worst thing about her, but you knew that?
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 28, 2021 11:22:49 GMT -8
Her entire lineage forgot to evolve several generations ago. She's got a face only Fred Flinstone would love. Attacking a woman because you do not like her face? How very progressive of you! AzWm I'm a Communist. I dgaf about fascists. I'll make fun of her cave man features all day.
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Post by sdsustoner on Aug 28, 2021 11:26:30 GMT -8
Attacking a woman because you do not like her face? How very progressive of you! AzWm her face is not the worst thing about her, but you knew that? She has cave man feet too 😆
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 20, 2021 23:26:49 GMT -8
I can't hear this over the sound of laughter. Using the Constitution defense is perhaps the most illogical narrative in the history of narratives. Which president was impeached twice? Or the laughter of the Russian oligarchs that get to pipe oil to Germany while the US, in fealty to RR Unions, relegate our oil delivery methods to the 19th century and we go from an energy independent country to a foreign energy dependent country? You reap what you sow. Gotta invest in the change you want to see in the world if you want it to come to fruition. The corollary to that is to not invest in what isn't working. Oil belongs in the ground.
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Post by sdsuball on Sept 20, 2021 23:31:58 GMT -8
I can't hear this over the sound of laughter. Using the Constitution defense is perhaps the most illogical narrative in the history of narratives. Which president was impeached twice? Or the laughter of the leaders of the Mexican Cartels as they receive millions and millions in extortion money as the poor from all over world and give them their last bit of money before entering the US (and sending over some extra Heroin and fentanyl for good measure)? All the more reason to allow more people to emigrate here legally, and allow them to seek asylum. Then you are killing two birds with one stone. Letting those emigrants hold onto that money to spend in the US and benefit our economy, while simultaneously cutting those bastard Cartels' off at the knees economically.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 21, 2021 5:53:43 GMT -8
Or the laughter of the Russian oligarchs that get to pipe oil to Germany while the US, in fealty to RR Unions, relegate our oil delivery methods to the 19th century and we go from an energy independent country to a foreign energy dependent country? You reap what you sow. Gotta invest in the change you want to see in the world if you want it to come to fruition. The corollary to that is to not invest in what isn't working. Oil belongs in the ground. Sunshine, when there isn't a snow or rain storm, is during the day. Charging electric cars occur mostly during the night. As it is now, one effectively needs their own garage, access to carbon energy during the night to own an electric car. Do we have enough charging stations for all the nation's apartments and condos and trailers and people who park their car on the street? At parking garages? At work? Will we ever? Do we retain all the carbon based energy resources for the nationwide overnight charge? Do we have enough lithium and or lead (that is in the ground by the way) for the required temporary energy storage and to equip the world's cars for battery power? Unless nuclear power returns in a big way, we will see the same results with battery powered cars as we saw with the CA solar arrays near Las Vegas. It takes more carbon based energy to get out the fractionally less "renewable" energy to users. So in the end, it is a feel good waste of money that does not benefit the planet. It does help Tesla and old rich farts who get to buy a bucket list car, however. If the economy runs on oil, natural gas, uranium, solar power, windmills, etc., then do what makes sense (most efficient, most economical) for the sake of the earth. Solar power for homes and business during the day. Windmills only in certain areas but only after you have solved the temp energy storage problem. Invest in safe nuclear. Use natural gas where able. Pipe oil, don't rail road it. Don't force a square peg into a round hole and expect good results. With the pipeline agreements, Russia and Germany will do well economically. As will the RR Unions and the Democrat politicians that rely on Union campaign contributions. Biden has given out a win win it seems.
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Post by uwphoto on Sept 21, 2021 6:01:08 GMT -8
You reap what you sow. Gotta invest in the change you want to see in the world if you want it to come to fruition. The corollary to that is to not invest in what isn't working. Oil belongs in the ground. Sunshine, when there isn't a snow or rain storm, is during the day. Charging electric cars occur mostly during the night. As it is now, one effectively needs their own garage, access to carbon energy during the night to own an electric car. Do we have enough charging stations for all the nation's apartments and condos and trailers and people who park their car on the street? At parking garages? At work? Will we ever? Do we retain all the carbon based energy resources for the nationwide overnight charge? Do we have enough lithium and or lead (that is in the ground by the way) for the required temporary energy storage and to equip the world's cars for battery power? Unless nuclear power returns in a big way, we will see the same results with battery powered cars as we saw with the CA solar arrays near Las Vegas. It takes more carbon based energy to get out the fractionally less "renewable" energy to users. So in the end, it is a feel good waste of money that does not benefit the planet. It does help Tesla and old rich farts who get to buy a bucket list car, however. If the economy runs on oil, natural gas, uranium, solar power, windmills, etc., then do what makes sense (most efficient, most economical) for the sake of the earth. Solar power for homes and business during the day. Windmills only in certain areas but only after you have solved the temp energy storage problem. Invest in safe nuclear. Use natural gas where able. Pipe oil, don't rail road it. Don't force a square peg into a round hole and expect good results. With the pipeline agreements, Russia and Germany will do well economically. As will the RR Unions and the Democrat politicians that rely on Union campaign contributions. Biden has given out a win win it seems. Interesting points...until the political hit at the end. But food for thought.
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Post by ptsdthor on Sept 21, 2021 7:27:01 GMT -8
Or the laughter of the leaders of the Mexican Cartels as they receive millions and millions in extortion money as the poor from all over world and give them their last bit of money before entering the US (and sending over some extra Heroin and fentanyl for good measure)? All the more reason to allow more people to emigrate here legally, and allow them to seek asylum. Then you are killing two birds with one stone. Letting those emigrants hold onto that money to spend in the US and benefit our economy, while simultaneously cutting those bastard Cartels' off at the knees economically. How about we figure out our needs for population growth over and above the birth rate of those already here, allow that number to immigrate here allotted via our embassies around the world, stop illegal immigration altogether (thwarting the cartels) and embrace the rule of law? Like most of the civilized nations in world do? Why this fiasco?
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Post by sdsuball on Oct 5, 2021 10:25:40 GMT -8
You reap what you sow. Gotta invest in the change you want to see in the world if you want it to come to fruition. The corollary to that is to not invest in what isn't working. Oil belongs in the ground. Sunshine, when there isn't a snow or rain storm, is during the day. Charging electric cars occur mostly during the night. As it is now, one effectively needs their own garage, access to carbon energy during the night to own an electric car. Do we have enough charging stations for all the nation's apartments and condos and trailers and people who park their car on the street? At parking garages? At work? Will we ever? Do we retain all the carbon based energy resources for the nationwide overnight charge? Do we have enough lithium and or lead (that is in the ground by the way) for the required temporary energy storage and to equip the world's cars for battery power? Unless nuclear power returns in a big way, we will see the same results with battery powered cars as we saw with the CA solar arrays near Las Vegas. It takes more carbon based energy to get out the fractionally less "renewable" energy to users. So in the end, it is a feel good waste of money that does not benefit the planet. It does help Tesla and old rich farts who get to buy a bucket list car, however. If the economy runs on oil, natural gas, uranium, solar power, windmills, etc., then do what makes sense (most efficient, most economical) for the sake of the earth. Solar power for homes and business during the day. Windmills only in certain areas but only after you have solved the temp energy storage problem. Invest in safe nuclear. Use natural gas where able. Pipe oil, don't rail road it. Don't force a square peg into a round hole and expect good results. With the pipeline agreements, Russia and Germany will do well economically. As will the RR Unions and the Democrat politicians that rely on Union campaign contributions. Biden has given out a win win it seems. I agree with a lot of your points. There are coordination issues for sure with moving from oil to electricity. Local governments need to help apartment building owners and businesses shoulder the cost of installing these charging stations. Nuclear is something that I'm on board with - unfortunately it seems to be a political landmine at this point. I've even joked that I bet the oil companies were the ones funding the anti-nuclear environmental campaigns. Electricity storage on a grid scale.. I can't imagine that happening using lithium batteries for the reasons you just mentioned. Flywheels are an option. Long term, fusion can be the always on power source, lessening the need for electricity storage. The technology is getting closer, as I understand from both what I read, and someone that I know who works on a fusion project in San Diego. Part of the latest Biden infrastructure bill is a roughly 2 billion dollar investment in fusion research. For now we have to make do with what we have. I would personally rather see a water pipeline pumping Mississippi water out west, then more oil pipelines. Something that would ameliorate the droughts (and resulting wildfires) that we have been facing over the last two decades as a result of climate change. I don't want to invest in an oil pipeline that lowers the cost of transporting oil. Oil is already cheaper then it should be, in that the social costs of oil production (climate change, pollution) are not adequately priced into the cost of oil today. In twenty years I don't think we need or want that pipeline anymore. There is still a lot of room for improvement if we can electrify the transportation grid, and maximize solar and wind usage.
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