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Post by standiego on Aug 5, 2021 8:24:28 GMT -8
Can RIP
But do suggest People read Coug's analysis of what the SDSU Administration has done and may do regarding the Aztec Warrior Issue - also Our SDSU 's Presidents posted statement on AZTECS
Most important to me is that we have a safe campus for all , get cooperation so we can let the athletes play and have fans in the stands
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Post by gocoaztec on Aug 5, 2021 17:00:28 GMT -8
Stan,
Your reply “You ask what News Sources have talked about the very high rate of those that are coming into the Hospitals with Covid are NON Vaccinated people . That comes from Reuters , Associated Press , Wall Street Journal , Axios , ABC , CBS , NBS , CNN” is a cop out. Anyone can say that someone said something. Please provide a link to one of these many sources that supports your post that “over 90% of those who are Not Vaccinated have to go to Emergency Rooms and a strong % have to get put on Machines and or pass away.”
Hint - you won’t be able to find such a link. Much of what you post is patently false. Sorry, I’m not trying to be a jerk, but you regularly post false information while chiding others, so I feel compelled to challenge you regarding these inaccuracies.
You can do better.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 5, 2021 18:00:34 GMT -8
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Post by gocoaztec on Aug 5, 2021 18:16:04 GMT -8
Good answer to the wrong question.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 5, 2021 19:14:47 GMT -8
Good answer to the wrong question. How? STAN: “You ask what News Sources have talked about the very high rate of those that are coming into the Hospitals with Covid are NON Vaccinated people . That comes from Reuters , Associated Press , Wall Street Journal , Axios , ABC , CBS , NBS , CNN” YOU: is a cop out. Me: No, it's not... there's a veritable $#!+-ton of sources making that point. Other points can be argued, but I don't see how that one is debatable or controversial in any way.
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Post by azson on Aug 6, 2021 8:32:18 GMT -8
Good answer to the wrong question. How? STAN: “You ask what News Sources have talked about the very high rate of those that are coming into the Hospitals with Covid are NON Vaccinated people . That comes from Reuters , Associated Press , Wall Street Journal , Axios , ABC , CBS , NBS , CNN” YOU: is a cop out. Me: No, it's not... there's a veritable $#!+-ton of sources making that point. Other points can be argued, but I don't see how that one is debatable or controversial in any way. gocoaztec: [crickets]
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Post by azson on Aug 6, 2021 9:50:48 GMT -8
This is the best op-ed I've read thus far re anti-vaxxers: timjwise.medium.com/covid-anti-vaxxers-arent-a-maga-death-cult-it-s-worse-than-that-16d74186e46bThe $ quote: Most who refused to mask (and reject the vaccine now) are not full-blown virus deniers. Instead, they simply didn’t believe — and still don’t — that it can harm people like them. But if you know it can harm others who aren’t like you, and you still refuse to take the measures that reduce the risk of spreading the virus to them, you are a sociopath.
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Post by gocoaztec on Aug 8, 2021 14:42:20 GMT -8
How? STAN: “You ask what News Sources have talked about the very high rate of those that are coming into the Hospitals with Covid are NON Vaccinated people . That comes from Reuters , Associated Press , Wall Street Journal , Axios , ABC , CBS , NBS , CNN” YOU: is a cop out. Me: No, it's not... there's a veritable $#!+-ton of sources making that point. Other points can be argued, but I don't see how that one is debatable or controversial in any way. gocoaztec: [crickets] Cricket with a job and a life outside of AM responding: Stan: “Also at least 99% of those who are vaccinated do NOT have to go to a Medical Facility while over 90% of those who are Not Vaccinated have to go to Emergency Rooms and a strong % have to get put on Machines and or pass away.” Me (to Stan): “You constantly harp on other posters “mis-information”, so I’m very curious to know your source for “while over 90% of those who are Not Vaccinated have to go to Emergency Rooms and a strong % have to get put on Machines and or pass away.”? Stan: “You ask what News Sources have talked about the very high rate of those that are coming into the Hospitals with Covid are NON Vaccinated people . That comes from Reuters , Associated Press , Wall Street Journal , Axios , ABC , CBS , NBS , CNN and they talk with Hospital officials throughout the country .” This is a BS response to “90% non-vacinated have to go to to emergency rooms…” with no links. I never questioned that the vaccines work (I took the Pfizer version), but to say that 90% of non-vaccinated have to go to the emergency room and a high percentage die” is total Stan nonsense, and I provided a link to back my post. Hoobs: (either didn’t read/understand the previous post or is as nutty as Stan): It's variations of the point, but: “97% of people who are hospitalized from COVID now are unvaccinated” Well duh, since the vaccines are about 96% effective, but this is a far far cry from Stan’s 90% of the unvaccinated go to the emergency room. Good use of statistics to provide the wrong answer. It’s also a typical BS NPR interview that strategically forgets to ask for actual numbers hospitalized - and without them it’s without context. “Nearly all COVID deaths in US are now among unvaccinated” Well, I would hope so - if not, why take the vaccines? 107,000 hospitalized (according to your article), but no total number infected given - do you believe 107,000 was 90%? “Delta variant spurring uptick in COVID-19 cases largely in unvaccinated UMass Medical School experts detail how the variant is fueling the increase and how Massachusetts is impacted” Again, no numbers to back the assertion that 90% of unvaccinated need hospitalization. This article is claiming that the vaccines are up to 99.9% effective, which is higher than I’ve seen anywhere else. So, if the vaccines are somewhere between 97 and 99.9% effective, and those vaccinated who do get Covid only have mild cases, why do so many liberals care if I’m (or anyone else who is not family or dear friend) vaccinated or not? Why use the force of government to make people to do something that they don’t want to do if you can be virtually perfectly protected, if you choose to be?
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Post by hoobs on Aug 8, 2021 16:46:54 GMT -8
...because unvaccinated people getting COVID is causing a public health emergency, that can then f**k people who are being responsible. Like in Austin TX: "As of noon Saturday, there are six available ICU beds in the 11-county hospital region that includes Austin-Travis County, according to Texas Department of State Health Services. There are also only 499 available regular hospital beds." "As of Friday, there are 3,438 active COVID-19 cases in Austin-Travis County. There are currently 510 people hospitalized, 184 patients in the ICU and 102 patients on ventilators, according to the COVID-19 dashboard." "Roughly 80% of people hospitalized for COVID-19 in the Austin metro in the past two weeks were unvaccinated, new numbers from Austin Public Health show." www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/weekend-read-icu-capacity-in-critical-condition-as-covid-19-surges-in-central-texas/amp/So after six more ICU cases (statistically, 5 unvaxxed, 1 vaxxed), if someone like me has a heart attack... oops, no ICU beds... thanks largely to unvaxxed folks predictably suckling off the heath care system for which many of them bitch about paying taxes.
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Post by hoobs on Aug 8, 2021 16:51:27 GMT -8
I wouldn't bitch if unvaxxed folks would be forced to sign a waiver that would rule them out of being admitted to an ICU for COVID-related symptoms (*unless they have an immunity or other other medical complication against getting vaccinated).
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Post by pbnative on Aug 8, 2021 17:45:26 GMT -8
...because unvaccinated people getting COVID is causing a public health emergency, that can then f**k people who are being responsible. Like in Austin TX: "As of noon Saturday, there are six available ICU beds in the 11-county hospital region that includes Austin-Travis County, according to Texas Department of State Health Services. There are also only 499 available regular hospital beds." "As of Friday, there are 3,438 active COVID-19 cases in Austin-Travis County. There are currently 510 people hospitalized, 184 patients in the ICU and 102 patients on ventilators, according to the COVID-19 dashboard." "Roughly 80% of people hospitalized for COVID-19 in the Austin metro in the past two weeks were unvaccinated, new numbers from Austin Public Health show." www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/weekend-read-icu-capacity-in-critical-condition-as-covid-19-surges-in-central-texas/amp/So after six more ICU cases (statistically, 5 unvaxxed, 1 vaxxed), if someone like me has a heart attack... oops, no ICU beds... thanks largely to unvaxxed folks predictably suckling off the heath care system for which many of them bitch about paying taxes. You mean Isreal's outbreak and health emergency where about +85% of adults are vaccinated, and about 90% of the hospitalizations are fully vaccinated? The ones that aren't getting Covid are the ones that have had it and have a natural immunity. How about the autopsy completed in Germany. 1st one performed on a fully vaccinated individual that found the spike proteins had infestated every organ in the body. Massachusetts, 74% of people infected are fully vaccinated.
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Post by gocoaztec on Aug 8, 2021 20:11:15 GMT -8
I wouldn't bitch if unvaxxed folks would be forced to sign a waiver that would rule them out of being admitted to an ICU for COVID-related symptoms (*unless they have an immunity or other other medical complication against getting vaccinated). Sure, and everyone who doesn’t Eat a low fat diet predominately of vegetables, fruit and fish or Smokes or Has a waistline of 37” or more (men) or Drinks 2 or more alcoholic drinks per day or Averages less than 150 minutes of moderate exercise a week will have to sign a waiver that would rule them out for being admitted for any type of heart condition. After all, they have no right to make a personal decision in any of these areas that can greatly increase their chances of heart disease, right? I hope that you’re a very healthy dude, or you’ll be signing a lot of waivers.
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Post by richpjr on Aug 9, 2021 7:47:24 GMT -8
Not surprised that this thread won”t die, but not having checked it for a while and coming in this morning: how did this turn into a vaccine thread? LOL.
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Post by aztecfred on Aug 9, 2021 8:19:45 GMT -8
Not surprised that this thread won”t die, but not having checked it for a while and coming in this morning: how did this turn into a vaccine thread? LOL. Because of the usual suspects?
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Aug 9, 2021 10:47:21 GMT -8
Not surprised that this thread won”t die, but not having checked it for a while and coming in this morning: how did this turn into a vaccine thread? LOL. Because of the usual suspects? Yah, you know the NEWSMAX, Q Anon, Libtards, Oppressed, Etc. People! Almost forgot Tucker! Did I leave anyone out?
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Post by tmy49 on Aug 9, 2021 10:56:56 GMT -8
Sure glad I checked this thread out to find out what's happening with the Aztec warrior being "retired"
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Post by standiego on Aug 9, 2021 11:15:06 GMT -8
Coug
can you please repost your information about the issues
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Post by aztecfred on Aug 9, 2021 14:06:06 GMT -8
Really? Again?
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Post by standiego on Aug 9, 2021 14:18:09 GMT -8
was trying to get back on to the the topic of Aztec Warrior - to me Coug has the best summation of what has been happening
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Post by hoobs on Aug 9, 2021 15:07:09 GMT -8
Let's just LOCK this thread and move on?
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