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Post by Gundo on Mar 7, 2021 1:04:29 GMT -8
The Aztecs have been in the MWC Finals 10 out of the last 12 years, but only going 3-7.
2009 Utah win over SDSU 52-50
2010 SDSU win over UNLV 55-45 - Kawhi MVP
2011 SDSU win over BYU 72-54 - (f x x x ) Jimmer MVP
2012 UNM win over SDSU 68-59
2014 UNM win over SDSU 64-58
2015 Wyo win over SDSU 45-43
2016 Fresno win over SDSU 68-63
2018 SDSU win over UNM 82-75 - Trey Kell MVP
2019 USU win over SDSU 64-57
2020 USU win over SDSU 59-56
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Post by sdmotohead on Mar 7, 2021 4:10:44 GMT -8
As much as I hate to admit it, USU sure has had our number the past few years.
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Post by Frantic on Mar 7, 2021 7:41:56 GMT -8
SDSU has never won the regular season championship and the MWC tournament in the same year.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2021 7:46:38 GMT -8
Until...
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Post by I Enjoy Aztecs Basketball on Mar 7, 2021 8:25:47 GMT -8
Tough to play the level of defense we play for three straight days.
Hopefully we boat race Wyoming or San Jose State and Keshad, Seiko, Butler and (a hopefully healthy) Arop play a ton of minutes. Play MM and Schakel like 20 minutes each and keep those legs fresh for jump shots in games 2 and 3.
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Post by RiffelBooks on Mar 7, 2021 8:34:46 GMT -8
Tough to play the level of defense we play for three straight days. Hopefully we boat race Wyoming or San Jose State and Keshad, Seiko, Butler and (a hopefully healthy) Arop play a ton of minutes. Play MM and Schakel like 20 minutes each and keep those legs fresh for jump shots in games 2 and 3. If you look at the scores listed in the OP, you'll see that defense is rarely the problem. It's been scoring. Last year, we appeared to be running out of gas even before the tournament. With a wider range of scoring options this year, hopefully we'll be able to maintain the pace for all three games. I fully agree with your second paragraph, though. |
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Post by mactec on Mar 7, 2021 8:48:30 GMT -8
SDSU has never won the regular season championship and the MWC tournament in the same year. 2011? |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 7, 2021 9:39:06 GMT -8
Any word on Dinwiddie's health?
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Post by Frantic on Mar 7, 2021 9:54:07 GMT -8
SDSU has never won the regular season championship and the MWC tournament in the same year. 2011? Yes, SDSU was co-champion with BYU that year, but I'm not sure why. SDSU and BYU had identical conference records at 14-2, but BYU beat SDSU twice in the regular season and had the #1 seed in the MWC Tournament. |
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Post by mayham81 on Mar 7, 2021 10:19:04 GMT -8
The final is always a sloppy dead legs game every year. 3 games in 3 days makes for ugly basketball.
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Post by AzTex on Mar 7, 2021 10:47:56 GMT -8
Tough to play the level of defense we play for three straight days. Hopefully we boat race Wyoming or San Jose State and Keshad, Seiko, Butler and (a hopefully healthy) Arop play a ton of minutes. Play MM and Schakel like 20 minutes each and keep those legs fresh for jump shots in games 2 and 3. But, I'm not sure when, if ever, we've had the depth we have this year (assuming everyone's healthy). |
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Post by AzTex on Mar 7, 2021 10:49:47 GMT -8
Yes, SDSU was co-champion with BYU that year, but I'm not sure why. SDSU and BYU had identical conference records at 14-2, but BYU beat SDSU twice in the regular season and had the #1 seed in the MWC Tournament. The champion is determined by the conference record. The tie breakers, including head-to-head, are only for seeding in the conference tournament. |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Mar 7, 2021 11:21:58 GMT -8
3 & 7 makes SDSU a team you wouldn't want to bet on. I guess if they gave you long odds you might put a few pesos down.
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Post by aztecnails on Mar 7, 2021 12:52:18 GMT -8
Look at the 2005-2006 season and SDSU won both the regular season and MWC tournament titles.
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 7, 2021 15:34:33 GMT -8
Tough to play the level of defense we play for three straight days. Hopefully we boat race Wyoming or San Jose State and Keshad, Seiko, Butler and (a hopefully healthy) Arop play a ton of minutes. Play MM and Schakel like 20 minutes each and keep those legs fresh for jump shots in games 2 and 3. But, I'm not sure when, if ever, we've had the depth we have this year (assuming everyone's healthy). 2010-2011, 2017-2018, 2019-2020 teams were 10 deep, including LaBradford Franklin/Nolan Narain. The tenth man in those years were decent role players This team has a talented 10 man rotation, and Dinwiddie is more then capable of playing minutes if we needed him to as the 11th man. Butler/Dinwiddie are extremely talented, not at all role players. That's the big difference to me. They could play 20 minutes a game if needed, and our team would be just fine. |
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Post by docmm on Mar 7, 2021 16:37:18 GMT -8
I would have never guessed that we've lost 6 of the last 7 MWCT Finals. After losing out on such a potentially great MM experience last year, I hope we have a bit of MM karma coming our way and we can win the MWCT in style and get a #6 seed.
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Post by AzTex on Mar 7, 2021 16:40:52 GMT -8
But, I'm not sure when, if ever, we've had the depth we have this year (assuming everyone's healthy). 2010-2011, 2017-2018, 2019-2020 teams were 10 deep, including LaBradford Franklin/Nolan Narain. The tenth man in those years were decent role players This team has a talented 10 man rotation, and Dinwiddie is more then capable of playing minutes if we needed him to as the 11th man. Butler/Dinwiddie are extremely talented, not at all role players. That's the big difference to me. They could play 20 minutes a game if needed, and our team would be just fine. I think we're agreement, if not please correct me. By depth this year I meant that this years depth is more talented, not just more good role players. I think a team of this year's non-starters would beat almost any previous year's non-starters that I can think of. We've seen how many more points our bench generally scores than the opponents bench. |
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Post by sdsuball on Mar 7, 2021 17:08:11 GMT -8
Yes exactly agreed
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Post by I Enjoy Aztecs Basketball on Mar 7, 2021 21:22:54 GMT -8
Tough to play the level of defense we play for three straight days. Hopefully we boat race Wyoming or San Jose State and Keshad, Seiko, Butler and (a hopefully healthy) Arop play a ton of minutes. Play MM and Schakel like 20 minutes each and keep those legs fresh for jump shots in games 2 and 3. If you look at the scores listed in the OP, you'll see that defense is rarely the problem. It's been scoring. Last year, we appeared to be running out of gas even before the tournament. With a wider range of scoring options this year, hopefully we'll be able to maintain the pace for all three games. I fully agree with your second paragraph, though. I guess what I meant to say was “tough to play the level of defense we play for three straight days AND have the legs to make jump shots.” |
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Post by fisherville on Mar 7, 2021 21:32:20 GMT -8
I don’t think this team is crazy deep. I know some on the board disagree but Butler’s been struggling, Seiko was in a big shooting funk since coming back from injury and who knows what Arops health is at. Keshad has his moments but is inconsistent, I do think tomiac has been pretty consistent. A key as meantioned is to blowout whoever we face in round 1, and we did blow those teams out every time we faced them. Boise State and Nevada will likely be a very close game.
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