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Mar 28, 2022 19:41:11 GMT -8
Post by aztecmusician on Mar 28, 2022 19:41:11 GMT -8
"Ah, the perils of prospect fatigue. Much has been documented about MacKenzie Gore’s fall from prospect stardom, but I’m still bullish on his future outlook as this ranking indicates. After turning in one of the most dominant seasons in California League history in 2019, lofty expectations and comparisons were put forth, perhaps unfairly. The soon to be 23-year-old North Carolinian blends elite athleticism on the mound with a dynamic repertoire that includes multiple above average or better secondary offerings and a mid-90s fastball. While the command took a sizable step backward in 2021 coming out of the pandemic, the raw stuff is still very much present. More importantly, the desire to be truly great is something Gore possesses in spades. There’s less room for error than there was two years ago, a firm reminder that prospect development is far from a linear process, but there’s still frontline starter potential here. Gore figures to battle for a big league rotation spot when spring training commences." Battle, indeed. I remember back in 2019 I stated it could take Gore awhile (‘21 or 22) to break into the majors. It seemed reasonable to me, after all even the best SP prospects often take a few years to get their command up to a MLB level. I was roundly ridiculed, by several people on this very thread. Well, fast forward to now, and Gore is finally in the mix, albeit a long shot, to grab that 5th starter spot……Paddack, Martinez, Knehr, Weathers and Gore. I’m not doubting this kid’s talent or determination, but as I predicted it’s taken him a while to get in the MLB roster conversation.
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Mar 28, 2022 19:50:59 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 28, 2022 19:50:59 GMT -8
"Ah, the perils of prospect fatigue. Much has been documented about MacKenzie Gore’s fall from prospect stardom, but I’m still bullish on his future outlook as this ranking indicates. After turning in one of the most dominant seasons in California League history in 2019, lofty expectations and comparisons were put forth, perhaps unfairly. The soon to be 23-year-old North Carolinian blends elite athleticism on the mound with a dynamic repertoire that includes multiple above average or better secondary offerings and a mid-90s fastball. While the command took a sizable step backward in 2021 coming out of the pandemic, the raw stuff is still very much present. More importantly, the desire to be truly great is something Gore possesses in spades. There’s less room for error than there was two years ago, a firm reminder that prospect development is far from a linear process, but there’s still frontline starter potential here. Gore figures to battle for a big league rotation spot when spring training commences." Battle, indeed. I remember back in 2019 I stated it could take Gore awhile (‘21 or 22) to break into the majors. It seemed reasonable to me, after all even the best SP prospects often take a few years to get their command up to a MLB level. I was roundly ridiculed, by several people on this very thread. Well, fast forward to now, and Gore is finally in the mix, albeit a long shot, to grab that 5th starter spot……Paddack, Martinez, Knehr, Weathers and Gore. I’m not doubting this kid’s talent or determination, but as I predicted it’s taken him a while to get in the MLB roster conversation. Yep, you called it.
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Mar 28, 2022 20:53:16 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 28, 2022 20:53:16 GMT -8
"Ah, the perils of prospect fatigue. Much has been documented about MacKenzie Gore’s fall from prospect stardom, but I’m still bullish on his future outlook as this ranking indicates. After turning in one of the most dominant seasons in California League history in 2019, lofty expectations and comparisons were put forth, perhaps unfairly. The soon to be 23-year-old North Carolinian blends elite athleticism on the mound with a dynamic repertoire that includes multiple above average or better secondary offerings and a mid-90s fastball. While the command took a sizable step backward in 2021 coming out of the pandemic, the raw stuff is still very much present. More importantly, the desire to be truly great is something Gore possesses in spades. There’s less room for error than there was two years ago, a firm reminder that prospect development is far from a linear process, but there’s still frontline starter potential here. Gore figures to battle for a big league rotation spot when spring training commences." Battle, indeed. I remember back in 2019 I stated it could take Gore awhile (‘21 or 22) to break into the majors. It seemed reasonable to me, after all even the best SP prospects often take a few years to get their command up to a MLB level. I was roundly ridiculed, by several people on this very thread. Well, fast forward to now, and Gore is finally in the mix, albeit a long shot, to grab that 5th starter spot……Paddack, Martinez, Knehr, Weathers and Gore. I’m not doubting this kid’s talent or determination, but as I predicted it’s taken him a while to get in the MLB roster conversation. He absolutely would have been up in 2020 without the pandemic interfering. He was already in Double-A at the end of 2019 and threw the ball well there, in a hitter's paradise in Amarillo. He posted the best California League season ever for Lake Elsinore and looked every bit of what the reports said, was on a Kershaw-esque developmental plan.. I guess you're welcome to this interpretation, but it took a global shutdown to change the plans and alter his trajectory. In 2020, with no games, his delivery got out of whack and the mechanics declined to where he couldn't find the plate, largely because the Padres are the Padres and can't leave "good" alone in a lot of cases. Too many voices in his ear, too much confusion and typical non-linear pitching development stuff. TINSTAAP. Sidenote: He's not a long shot at all. The only thing that prevents him from likely breaking camp with the team is the preference to see his delivery/mechanical changes hold up over a larger sample size. What are tomorrow's lottery numbers?
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 29, 2022 14:28:59 GMT -8
First walk and runs allowed in the spring today, cruised through two innings before issuing a walk and a home run in his third inning. First time going into the fourth, leadoff single, but no damage done after. Impressive.
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Mar 31, 2022 2:53:44 GMT -8
Post by aztecmusician on Mar 31, 2022 2:53:44 GMT -8
He’s been pretty good this spring, enough with the slow walking, The Padres need to see what Makenzie Gore can do with some MLB starts. If he can’t handle it, Paddack and Martinez are on standby.
Or, didn’t someone mention the Padres could use a 6 man rotation this season? Either way, Gore looks ready.
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Mar 31, 2022 7:51:05 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 31, 2022 7:51:05 GMT -8
He’s been pretty good this spring, enough with the slow walking, The Padres need to see what Makenzie Gore can do with some MLB starts. If he can’t handle it, Paddack and Martinez are on standby. Or, didn’t someone mention the Padres could use a 6 man rotation this season? Either way, Gore looks ready. They aren't "slow walking" him. They are developing him like they should, finally. The guy who was picked one pick before him, is debuting this year as well. The attrition rate for high school arms is astoundingly high. For every Kershaw and Bumgarner, you get a Riley Pint (who has already retired), Forrest Whitley or a host of others.
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Apr 5, 2022 17:12:36 GMT -8
Post by junior on Apr 5, 2022 17:12:36 GMT -8
Can't discount the spring he's had so far. Really pitching and not just throwing. I can see the team waiting for the inevitable injury to one of their fragile starter arms just to play that game and keep him in limbo just a bit longer before having to pay him tons more money, though. Glad I'm not having to make those decisions.
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Apr 5, 2022 17:22:52 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2022 17:22:52 GMT -8
Can't discount the spring he's had so far. Really pitching and not just throwing. I can see the team waiting for the inevitable injury to one of their fragile starter arms just to play that game and keep him in limbo just a bit longer before having to pay him tons more money, though. Glad I'm not having to make those decisions. He's had a pretty good spring, although he got smoked his last outing, to put his ERA at around 4.50.
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Apr 5, 2022 20:32:58 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2022 20:32:58 GMT -8
Can't discount the spring he's had so far. Really pitching and not just throwing. I can see the team waiting for the inevitable injury to one of their fragile starter arms just to play that game and keep him in limbo just a bit longer before having to pay him tons more money, though. Glad I'm not having to make those decisions. He's had a pretty good spring, although he got smoked his last outing, to put his ERA at around 4.50. He did not get "smoked." He gave up a grand slam in his last inning of work that was aided by the wind and barely cleared the fence, after a defensive misplay behind him cost him an out. He pitched very well throughout spring and looks on the way back to prospect status.
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Apr 5, 2022 20:47:46 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2022 20:47:46 GMT -8
He's had a pretty good spring, although he got smoked his last outing, to put his ERA at around 4.50. He did not get "smoked." He gave up a grand slam in his last inning of work that was aided by the wind and barely cleared the fence, after a defensive misplay behind him cost him an out. He pitched very well throughout spring and looks on the way back to prospect status. Like I said in my post, he's had a good Spring, and if it makes you feel better, I'll take back the fact he got smoked and say that in his last outing he didn't pitch very well, with a line of: 3/4/4/2/5. Walks kill ya. It seems like whenever you walk somebody, they score. I'm very high on him, and hope he can stay consistent, while limiting his walks.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 5, 2022 21:48:57 GMT -8
He did not get "smoked." He gave up a grand slam in his last inning of work that was aided by the wind and barely cleared the fence, after a defensive misplay behind him cost him an out. He pitched very well throughout spring and looks on the way back to prospect status. Like I said in my post, he's had a good Spring, and if it makes you feel better, I'll take back the fact he got smoked and say that in his last outing he didn't pitch very well, with a line of: 3/4/4/2/5. Walks kill ya. It seems like whenever you walk somebody, they score. I'm very high on him, and hope he can stay consistent, while limiting his walks. The overall body of work with a sub 1.00 WHIP and more than a strikeout per inning is big picture growth stuff. He looked light years better than what he did last season and I think he's the first arm up to cover any kind of injury situation.
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Apr 5, 2022 23:04:29 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 5, 2022 23:04:29 GMT -8
Like I said in my post, he's had a good Spring, and if it makes you feel better, I'll take back the fact he got smoked and say that in his last outing he didn't pitch very well, with a line of: 3/4/4/2/5. Walks kill ya. It seems like whenever you walk somebody, they score. I'm very high on him, and hope he can stay consistent, while limiting his walks. The overall body of work with a sub 1.00 WHIP and more than a strikeout per inning is big picture growth stuff. He looked light years better than what he did last season and I think he's the first arm up to cover any kind of injury situation. I can agree with this. He definitely looks better than last year. He's not walking as many, and he's not getting behind in the count as often as he used to. In other words, he has better command.
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Apr 6, 2022 6:50:51 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 6, 2022 6:50:51 GMT -8
The overall body of work with a sub 1.00 WHIP and more than a strikeout per inning is big picture growth stuff. He looked light years better than what he did last season and I think he's the first arm up to cover any kind of injury situation. I can agree with this. He definitely looks better than last year. He's not walking as many, and he's not getting behind in the count as often as he used to. In other words, he has better command. He has better mechanics and a simplified delivery with less moving parts. His arm doesn't drag behind his body like it did previously. He gets his plant foot down and gets great extension while maintaining his balance. Arm speed through the entire delivery and a more consistent landing spot equals better control of where the ball is going.
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 6, 2022 14:22:38 GMT -8
Really impressed with how he's locating his fastball in the upper part of the zone. It's setting up easy outs with the change and slider.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 6, 2022 16:48:11 GMT -8
Gore to Triple-A. Makes sense with the Manaea deal.
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Apr 7, 2022 17:40:35 GMT -8
Post by junior on Apr 7, 2022 17:40:35 GMT -8
He'll get called up before the ASG… especially if he continues dealing at AAA and doesn't revert to some former habits. It'll just be too hard to justify keeping him down on the farm - particularly if the Padres' starting pitching expectations don't come to fruition.
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Apr 9, 2022 17:01:49 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 9, 2022 17:01:49 GMT -8
Dominant performance in El Paso tonight. Struck out the side to end five shutout innings.
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Post by junior on Apr 9, 2022 19:00:16 GMT -8
No BBs either (except the ones he was throwing…)
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Apr 9, 2022 19:06:48 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on Apr 9, 2022 19:06:48 GMT -8
No BBs either (except the ones he was throwing…) That's the key.
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Apr 12, 2022 13:48:32 GMT -8
Post by aardvark on Apr 12, 2022 13:48:32 GMT -8
So...is Gore starting on Friday against the Braves???
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