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Post by harryaztec on Dec 20, 2010 16:33:01 GMT -8
I have to 2 tickets, $55 face value in Loge. PM if interested.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Dec 20, 2010 17:02:15 GMT -8
You just proved my point. The bowl executives keep the "good" seats for themselves and NOT for the participating schools. I'm not a bowl executive. The PB has been going on for 5 years. My guess is that a lot of folks smarter than me realized way back in 2005 that they could buy the best seats and sell them for more than face value. Club 33 is not that bad (30/40 yd line). I think I have great seats and I'm just a punk who pays face value every May. Does the PB reserve a few thousand seats for sponsors and VIPs? Probably. Have a thousand or so local sports fans been PB ticket holders from the beginning and renew their tickets (probably great seats in plaza/club) every year knowing that they can either use them, give them away as gifts/writeoffs, or sell them for a modest profit? Probably. Do ticket brokers buy up a lot of the best seats when they are offered in May to the general public knowing they can make money off of the participating schools' fans looking for the best seats? Probably. Does that leave the pickings for club/plaza tickets between the 30's slim by the time December rolls around? Most definitely. Is it the prerogative for the PB (and any other bowl for that matter) to sell and distribute their tickets any way they damn well please? Yup. The main theme here is that this is not a home game operated by SDSU. While it is the same team, same city, same sideline and same stadium, long time season ticket holders are probably not going to end up in the same seats. I think it is unfortunate the way some folks were rudely surprised but that's the way the cookie crumbles.
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Post by firemedic619 on Dec 20, 2010 19:43:40 GMT -8
The main theme here is that this is not a home game operated by SDSU. While it is the same team, same city, same sideline and same stadium, long time season ticket holders are probably not going to end up in the same seats. I think it is unfortunate the way some folks were rudely surprised but that's the way the cookie crumbles. Again, I AGREE with everything you said. My point wasn't about good business acumen. With all the SDSU season ticket holders disappointed regarding their seats, my point was that the Poinsettia Bowl executive(s), i.e. Binkowski, keep the seats that they (SDSU season ticket holders) deem "good". YOU asked what PROOF do I have of this. You actually answered your own question with your next response of how the bowl executive(s) keep these "good" seats to themselves, including: - PB season ticket holders getting priority.
- Sponsors and VIP getting priority.
- Regular public buying tickets well in advance.
The Poinsettia Bowl could easily reserve the "good" seats for the participating schools, but they don't because of the above reasons.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Dec 20, 2010 19:56:01 GMT -8
Again, I AGREE with everything you said. My point wasn't about good business acumen. With all the SDSU season ticket holders disappointed regarding their seats, my point was that the Poinsettia Bowl executive(s), i.e. Binkowski, keep the seats that they (SDSU season ticket holders) deem "good". YOU asked what PROOF do I have of this. You actually answered your own question with your next response of how the bowl executive(s) keep these "good" seats to themselves, including: - PB season ticket holders getting priority.
- Sponsors and VIP getting priority.
- Regular public buying tickets well in advance.
The Poinsettia Bowl could easily reserve the "good" seats for the participating schools, but they don't because of the above reasons. To: firemedic619 Fr: REALITY Re: The Poinsettia Bowl's business acumen The Poinesttia Bowl must be run like a business otherwise there would be no Poinsettia Bowl. It's not a charity. If they followed your idea to "save the best" seats for customers that might not even show up, they would lose money 60% of the time, disenfranchise sponsors, lose perennial customers, and go out of business. thnx The reality of college bowls cc: fantasy land bcc: B. Binkowski the "grand vicar or ticket hoarding"
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Post by firemedic619 on Dec 20, 2010 20:33:04 GMT -8
To: firemedic619 Fr: REALITY Re: The Poinsettia Bowl's business acumen The Poinesttia Bowl must be run like a business otherwise there would be no Poinsettia Bowl. It's not a charity. If they followed your idea to "save the best" seats for customers that might not even show up, they would lose money 60% of the time, disenfranchise sponsors, lose perennial customers, and go out of business. thnx The reality of college bowls cc: fantasy land bcc: B. Binkowski the "grand vicar or ticket hoarding" Okay Mr. Wannabe bowl executive. You said yourself that you're not a bowl executive, so I don't know why you're taking my FACTS so personal. The SDSU season ticket holders were angry at SDSU because of their crappy seats. I was just letting them know it's not SDSU's fault that the Poinsettia Bowl allots them the "crappy" seats. The BOTTOM LINE is that the Poinsettia Bowl could allot "better" seats to the schools, but they don't. The opinion that it may not make good business sense for the Poinsettia Bowl itself WAS NOT MY POINT. REGARDLESS, since you keep on defending the bowls, I'll make a different point: Each bowl game requires a ticket sale guarantee. The Poinsettia Bowl is no different. That's the whole reason behind the REQUIRED ticket allotment to the participating schools. Without it, the bowls would be hard-pressed to be able to meet the payouts awarded to the schools. Let's stay current and use this year's Poinsettia Bowl as an example: the original ticket allotment to SDSU was 5,000 tickets. The Poinsettia Bowl could easily allot those 5,000 tickets within the "good" seating range. Even if SDSU could only resell ONE ticket of that 5,000 ticket allotment, and that ONE person decided to show up on gameday, the 5,000 tickets have already been paid for by SDSU and are in the pockets of the Poinsettia Bowl. So, there goes your point. And if you couldn't tell, the bowl games can go bankrupt, out of business, and go to hell for all I care. Who cares if they lose money and go out of business. Maybe then we can finally move on to a playoff.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Dec 20, 2010 20:40:53 GMT -8
And if you couldn't tell, the bowl games can go bankrupt, out of business, and go to hell for all I care. Who cares if they lose money and go out of business. Maybe then we can finally move on to a playoff. Don't hate the player, hate the game. My guess is the seats for a playoff would be equally crappy but then I guess you would start blaming the NCAA for not calling savies for humble 'ol season ticket holders. If you can't understand that post season football and basketball are run like businesses, there's not a whole lot anybody can do to help you understand why things happen the way they happen. Sorry.
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Post by firemedic619 on Dec 20, 2010 21:06:47 GMT -8
Dude, just give it up already. I've already proven my point, and you've proven my point yourself. Why you keep on posting despite this fact is beyond me.
Just so you know, I'm not a season ticket holder because I live too far away from San Diego. I wasn't complaining about the seats I got to this year's Poinsettia Bowl, idiot. I'm perfectly fine with what I got. I was sticking up for the long-time season ticket holders on here because I feel like the most passionate people in any football stadium are season ticket holders, and they should get the "best" seats in the house.
And I understand perfectly well what kind of business post-season football is, thank you very much.
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Post by 1611Luginbill on Dec 20, 2010 21:17:54 GMT -8
Dude, just give it up already. I've already proven my point, and you've proven my point yourself. Why you keep on posting despite this fact is beyond me. Just so you know, I'm not a season ticket holder because I live too far away from San Diego. I wasn't complaining about the seats I got to this year's Poinsettia Bowl, idiot. I'm perfectly fine with what I got. I was sticking up for the long-time season ticket holders on here because I feel like the most passionate people in any football stadium are season ticket holders, and they should get the "best" seats in the house. And I understand perfectly well what kind of business post-season football is, thank you very much. That's very nice of you to stick up for us season ticket holders. Thanks. What we really needed was somebody with a lot of levity and a grip on reality to champion our cause. I hope we can count on you to give the NCAA a piece of your mind for March Madness tickets. Thanks in advance.
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Post by firemedic619 on Dec 20, 2010 21:38:21 GMT -8
That's very nice of you to stick up for us season ticket holders. Thanks. What we really needed was somebody with a lot of levity and a grip on reality to champion our cause. I hope we can count on you to give the NCAA a piece of your mind for March Madness tickets. Thanks in advance. All I can do within my power, which isn't much, is to speak out. That's what I did in this thread. A lot of season ticket holders blamed SDSU, when the blame should be on the Poinsettia Bowl. What good have you done in this thread? Maybe it would be a good idea for you to
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Post by Village Aztec on Dec 20, 2010 22:54:37 GMT -8
We are good at blaming people.
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