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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 10, 2021 13:33:47 GMT -8
is a direct quote of what he said. It’s at the 18 second mark if you want to check for yourself. “I’m very aware of the Kristallnacht, or the Night of Broken Glass. It was a night of rampage against the Jews carried out in 1938 by the Nazi equivalent of the Proud Boys. Wednesday was the [Kristallnacht] right here in the United States”. He went on to talk of how his father used to get drunk, beat him, and scare his wife. He said that was just life because his neighbor’s did the same, and the neighbors on the others side too, but none of them could be blamed because of the Kristallnacht which is exactly like the Capitol Riot. Now all children here in America will have tears rolling down their bruised and bloody faces as their terrorized Mothers comfort them after the nightly beating because all previously good fathers throughout the land were transformed by the mental scars inflicted by the Capitol Riot. The celebrity. The music. The production. This is propaganda. I know we have political differences but I can’t believe you guys are eating this up. Nothing about it is real. I interpreted it entirely differently. Kristallnacht was purging of Jewish businesses and the rounding up of Jewish citizens in the street of occupied (today) Poland. The broken glass and shattering of windows in the Capitol is the parallel I drew. Is there hyperbole? Sure. But I'll wait for you to see what the other side is doing at the same time. Your interpretation would require the thinking that what Arnold detested about Kristallnacht was all the glass that got broken that night. Kristallnacht wasn't about the mistreatment of glass. I do see what both sides are doing, and what both sides are doing is not in any way comparable to rounding up all the Jews into concentration camps or the Japanese Empire springing a surprise attack that killed thousands of American citizens. Both of those events have monuments constructed in remembrance. We hold Commemoration Events every year at the Pearl Harbor National Memorial. Is that what you expect to be done for the Capitol Riot? Do you think we should build a Capitol Riot National Memorial and visitor's center where is held annual Commemoration Events?
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 10, 2021 14:47:04 GMT -8
I interpreted it entirely differently. Kristallnacht was purging of Jewish businesses and the rounding up of Jewish citizens in the street of occupied (today) Poland. The broken glass and shattering of windows in the Capitol is the parallel I drew. Is there hyperbole? Sure. But I'll wait for you to see what the other side is doing at the same time. Your interpretation would require the thinking that what Arnold detested about Kristallnacht was all the glass that got broken that night. Kristallnacht wasn't about the mistreatment of glass. I do see what both sides are doing, and what both sides are doing is not in any way comparable to rounding up all the Jews into concentration camps or the Japanese Empire springing a surprise attack that killed thousands of American citizens. Both of those events have monuments constructed in remembrance. We hold Commemoration Events every year at the Pearl Harbor National Memorial. Is that what you expect to be done for the Capitol Riot? Do you think we should build a Capitol Riot National Memorial and visitor's center where is held annual Commemoration Events? I think you're going off on a tangent based on your perception of what Arnold said like it actually has influence. It's not about the glass, it's about terrorism, which manifests in a multitude of formats. The Nazis controlled every element of police and militarized factions. The fact you're more concerned about Arnold Schwarzenegger than actual sedition and insurrection is befuddling.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 10, 2021 23:20:03 GMT -8
More damning evidence that Trump WAS involved all along... Why was the security force at the Capitol so light for such a HUGE day? (BOTH Houses of Congress AND the VP in the same place at the same time - with an angry, "Rally," of Trump supporters down the street using terms AHEAD OF TIME like, "Fight," "Combat," and, "Take over.") Trump gutted a key threat assessment group months earlier. While he was trailing badly in the polls. So... Trump made sure the threat wouldn't be assessed, then made sure that the National Guard wasn't deployed ahead of time. THEN he refused to send them in as the Capitol was under attack. VP Pence ended up calling them in two hours later. This whole thing stinks. Every last piece of evidence, both concrete and circumstantial, points to Trump (and people working for him) attempting a full fledged violent coup after their, "Soft coup," attempts through the courts and through coercion failed. How is he not in prison right now?? abcnews.go.com/US/months-ahead-capitol-riot-dhs-threat-assessment-group/story?id=75155673&fbclid=IwAR0auMye9xXhwwO6cePf4vCZW7TE4ZCtZEOACUVQ48AvlynCKX69iTYkqBA
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Post by podpeople on Jan 11, 2021 3:08:51 GMT -8
More damning evidence that Trump WAS involved all along... Why was the security force at the Capitol so light for such a HUGE day? (BOTH Houses of Congress AND the VP in the same place at the same time - with an angry, "Rally," of Trump supporters down the street using terms AHEAD OF TIME like, "Fight," "Combat," and, "Take over.") Trump gutted a key threat assessment group months earlier. While he was trailing badly in the polls. So... Trump made sure the threat wouldn't be assessed, then made sure that the National Guard wasn't deployed ahead of time. THEN he refused to send them in as the Capitol was under attack. VP Pence ended up calling them in two hours later. This whole thing stinks. Every last piece of evidence, both concrete and circumstantial, points to Trump (and people working for him) attempting a full fledged violent coup after their, "Soft coup," attempts through the courts and through coercion failed. How is he not in prison right now?? abcnews.go.com/US/months-ahead-capitol-riot-dhs-threat-assessment-group/story?id=75155673&fbclid=IwAR0auMye9xXhwwO6cePf4vCZW7TE4ZCtZEOACUVQ48AvlynCKX69iTYkqBAIts pretty fascinating that he isnt in prison. It's incredible that we allow norms to rule over laws. a memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted holds precedent over law. Look at the members of congress that voted to object to the electoral count. Look at Trader Ted Cruz, and that idiot from Missouri. All that said, When Trump started purging the Pentagon everyone should have known something was going down. The exclamation point should have been when he brought back firing squads as capital punishment. Even Bill Barr was like "$#!+, I better get outta dodge before I'm part of this fools democratic apocalypse." The Trump administration will go down in infamy as one of the worst 4 years in the history of politics worldwide. It brought back fascism, it politicized a pandemic in which close to 400,000 people died on his watch... in less than a year. It put children in cages. it divided the country. it created domestic terrorism that attacked the Capitol while congress and VP were there. There is no defense for sedition, not in a democracy where everyone has a voice. I know this is not a perfect country, I know there is far too much poverty, and that its gotten worse over the past 20 years. I know that it has had a problem with systemic racism, being a minority, I've experienced it myself. But never in my life have I ever seen anything like what I saw on January 6th. It was like watching a horror movie, I truly expected a hostage situation, and thought that a few of our leaders might die. How Trumps plan was thwarted I guess we'll never know, likely because of his talent for incompetence. Lets hope that the inauguration is held at a secret and secure location and that we make it to and past the 20th of January.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 11, 2021 6:01:08 GMT -8
More damning evidence that Trump WAS involved all along... Why was the security force at the Capitol so light for such a HUGE day? (BOTH Houses of Congress AND the VP in the same place at the same time - with an angry, "Rally," of Trump supporters down the street using terms AHEAD OF TIME like, "Fight," "Combat," and, "Take over.") Trump gutted a key threat assessment group months earlier. While he was trailing badly in the polls. So... Trump made sure the threat wouldn't be assessed, then made sure that the National Guard wasn't deployed ahead of time. THEN he refused to send them in as the Capitol was under attack. VP Pence ended up calling them in two hours later. This whole thing stinks. Every last piece of evidence, both concrete and circumstantial, points to Trump (and people working for him) attempting a full fledged violent coup after their, "Soft coup," attempts through the courts and through coercion failed. How is he not in prison right now?? abcnews.go.com/US/months-ahead-capitol-riot-dhs-threat-assessment-group/story?id=75155673&fbclid=IwAR0auMye9xXhwwO6cePf4vCZW7TE4ZCtZEOACUVQ48AvlynCKX69iTYkqBAIts pretty fascinating that he isnt in prison. It's incredible that we allow norms to rule over laws. a memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted holds precedent over law. Look at the members of congress that voted to object to the electoral count. Look at Trader Ted Cruz, and that idiot from Missouri. All that said, When Trump started purging the Pentagon everyone should have known something was going down. The exclamation point should have been when he brought back firing squads as capital punishment. Even Bill Barr was like "$#!+, I better get outta dodge before I'm part of this fools democratic apocalypse." The Trump administration will go down in infamy as one of the worst 4 years in the history of politics worldwide. It brought back fascism, it politicized a pandemic in which close to 400,000 people died on his watch... in less than a year. It put children in cages. it divided the country. it created domestic terrorism that attacked the Capitol while congress and VP were there. There is no defense for sedition, not in a democracy where everyone has a voice. I know this is not a perfect country, I know there is far too much poverty, and that its gotten worse over the past 20 years. I know that it has had a problem with systemic racism, being a minority, I've experienced it myself. But never in my life have I ever seen anything like what I saw on January 6th. It was like watching a horror movie, I truly expected a hostage situation, and thought that a few of our leaders might die. How Trumps plan was thwarted I guess we'll never know, likely because of his talent for incompetence. Lets hope that the inauguration is held at a secret and secure location and that we make it to and past the 20th of January. I was predicting something like this. Why was trump knee-capping the Pentagon, FBI and CIA? It was all leading up to this. Luckily for us the rag tag gang of misfits that breeched the Capitol building were yahoos, nutcase QAnon members and not professionals. They looked, and acted, more like escapees from the Alaskan Bush People reality show. We see the segment of the population trump targeted from the beginning. Great ambassadors to represent America. The Chinese and Russians are partying right now...that was so easy, its ridiculous.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 11, 2021 6:19:10 GMT -8
Its pretty fascinating that he isnt in prison. It's incredible that we allow norms to rule over laws. a memo that a sitting president cannot be indicted holds precedent over law. Look at the members of congress that voted to object to the electoral count. Look at Trader Ted Cruz, and that idiot from Missouri. All that said, When Trump started purging the Pentagon everyone should have known something was going down. The exclamation point should have been when he brought back firing squads as capital punishment. Even Bill Barr was like "$#!+, I better get outta dodge before I'm part of this fools democratic apocalypse." The Trump administration will go down in infamy as one of the worst 4 years in the history of politics worldwide. It brought back fascism, it politicized a pandemic in which close to 400,000 people died on his watch... in less than a year. It put children in cages. it divided the country. it created domestic terrorism that attacked the Capitol while congress and VP were there. There is no defense for sedition, not in a democracy where everyone has a voice. I know this is not a perfect country, I know there is far too much poverty, and that its gotten worse over the past 20 years. I know that it has had a problem with systemic racism, being a minority, I've experienced it myself. But never in my life have I ever seen anything like what I saw on January 6th. It was like watching a horror movie, I truly expected a hostage situation, and thought that a few of our leaders might die. How Trumps plan was thwarted I guess we'll never know, likely because of his talent for incompetence. Lets hope that the inauguration is held at a secret and secure location and that we make it to and past the 20th of January. I was predicting something like this. Why was trump knee-capping the Pentagon, FBI and CIA? It was all leading up to this. Luckily for us the rag tag gang of misfits that breeched the Capitol building were yahoos, nutcase QAnon members and not professionals. They looked, and acted, more like escapees from the Alaskan Bush People reality show. We see the segment of the population trump targeted from the beginning. Great ambassadors to represent America. The Chinese and Russians are partying right now...that was so easy, its ridiculous. ps: I'm reading where the Capitol police were staffed at a "normal day" level on Wednesday!!! How is this even possible?? This has to be an inside job on some level. It just makes no sense whatsoever.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 11, 2021 8:39:54 GMT -8
I was predicting something like this. Why was trump knee-capping the Pentagon, FBI and CIA? It was all leading up to this. Luckily for us the rag tag gang of misfits that breeched the Capitol building were yahoos, nutcase QAnon members and not professionals. They looked, and acted, more like escapees from the Alaskan Bush People reality show. We see the segment of the population trump targeted from the beginning. Great ambassadors to represent America. The Chinese and Russians are partying right now...that was so easy, its ridiculous. ps: I'm reading where the Capitol police were staffed at a "normal day" level on Wednesday!!! How is this even possible?? This has to be an inside job on some level. It just makes no sense whatsoever. Of course it was an inside job. Trump replaced several key people at the Pentagon in November. Out went the professionals, IN came the Trump Administration loyalists. Any wonder, then, that the National Guard wasn't there? Trump sure didn't want them there! He refused to send them in. Pence had to do it two hours into the siege. There are a ton of dots to connect, all of which lead to Donald J. Trump, Conspirator In Chief. I knew in November that those Pentagon moves (along with similar moves at the FBI and CIA) could be a serious threat. Add to that the fact that Trump shut down a key threat assessment group in the FBI and this thing was set up since BEFORE the election (since Trump knew he was going to lose the vote - the polls showed Biden with a big lead). But the thing we didn't know is that the people in charge of Capitol Security were in on it as well. But they clearly were - the staffing was for a normal day, which when you have both houses of Congress together in one place it most certainly isn't! Especially with a crowd of angry, "Protestors," down the street at the same time!
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 9:50:46 GMT -8
ps: I'm reading where the Capitol police were staffed at a "normal day" level on Wednesday!!! How is this even possible?? This has to be an inside job on some level. It just makes no sense whatsoever. Of course it was an inside job. Trump replaced several key people at the Pentagon in November. Out went the professionals, IN came the Trump Administration loyalists. Any wonder, then, that the National Guard wasn't there? Trump sure didn't want them there! He refused to send them in. Pence had to do it two hours into the siege. There are a ton of dots to connect, all of which lead to Donald J. Trump, Conspirator In Chief. I knew in November that those Pentagon moves (along with similar moves at the FBI and CIA) could be a serious threat. Add to that the fact that Trump shut down a key threat assessment group in the FBI and this thing was set up since BEFORE the election (since Trump knew he was going to lose the vote - the polls showed Biden with a big lead). But the thing we didn't know is that the people in charge of Capitol Security were in on it as well. But they clearly were - the staffing was for a normal day, which when you have both houses of Congress together in one place it most certainly isn't! Especially with a crowd of angry, "Protestors," down the street at the same time! It's almost like what I called months ago...is accurate. And yet House Republicans today denied the 25th Amendment resolution flatly.
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Post by podpeople on Jan 11, 2021 9:58:22 GMT -8
Of course it was an inside job. Trump replaced several key people at the Pentagon in November. Out went the professionals, IN came the Trump Administration loyalists. Any wonder, then, that the National Guard wasn't there? Trump sure didn't want them there! He refused to send them in. Pence had to do it two hours into the siege. There are a ton of dots to connect, all of which lead to Donald J. Trump, Conspirator In Chief. I knew in November that those Pentagon moves (along with similar moves at the FBI and CIA) could be a serious threat. Add to that the fact that Trump shut down a key threat assessment group in the FBI and this thing was set up since BEFORE the election (since Trump knew he was going to lose the vote - the polls showed Biden with a big lead). But the thing we didn't know is that the people in charge of Capitol Security were in on it as well. But they clearly were - the staffing was for a normal day, which when you have both houses of Congress together in one place it most certainly isn't! Especially with a crowd of angry, "Protestors," down the street at the same time! It's almost like what I called months ago...is accurate. And yet House Republicans today denied the 25th Amendment resolution flatly. I'm convinced Trump has one last move up his sleeve, which is why he is not going to resign. The Biden inauguration should be held in a secret and secure location, otherwise Trump will try to find a way to exploit it and take them all out. The man tried it already, he'll do it again, and this time I'm positive he'll try to use every resource available.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 9:59:15 GMT -8
It's almost like what I called months ago...is accurate. And yet House Republicans today denied the 25th Amendment resolution flatly. I'm convinced Trump has one last move up his sleeve, which is why he is not going to resign. The Biden inauguration should be held in a secret and secure location, otherwise Trump will try to find a way to exploit it and take them all out. The man tried it already, he'll do it again, and this time I'm positive he'll try to use every resource available. Speaking of....
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Post by podpeople on Jan 11, 2021 10:26:53 GMT -8
I'm convinced Trump has one last move up his sleeve, which is why he is not going to resign. The Biden inauguration should be held in a secret and secure location, otherwise Trump will try to find a way to exploit it and take them all out. The man tried it already, he'll do it again, and this time I'm positive he'll try to use every resource available. Speaking of.... yeah, Trump is not capable of this type of organization. Theres someone else making these calls. Stephen Miller? Bannon? Stone? Be prepared for some of our states capitals to fall into the hands of these terrorists.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 10:45:13 GMT -8
yeah, Trump is not capable of this type of organization. Theres someone else making these calls. Stephen Miller? Bannon? Stone? Be prepared for some of our states capitals to fall into the hands of these terrorists. There's definite coordination between multiple groups. Trump by himself, no. Trump with the backing of certain advisors, military and police factions? Yeah.
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 10:51:54 GMT -8
I interpreted it entirely differently. Kristallnacht was purging of Jewish businesses and the rounding up of Jewish citizens in the street of occupied (today) Poland. The broken glass and shattering of windows in the Capitol is the parallel I drew. Is there hyperbole? Sure. But I'll wait for you to see what the other side is doing at the same time. Your interpretation would require the thinking that what Arnold detested about Kristallnacht was all the glass that got broken that night. Kristallnacht wasn't about the mistreatment of glass. I do see what both sides are doing, and what both sides are doing is not in any way comparable to rounding up all the Jews into concentration camps or the Japanese Empire springing a surprise attack that killed thousands of American citizens. Both of those events have monuments constructed in remembrance. We hold Commemoration Events every year at the Pearl Harbor National Memorial. Is that what you expect to be done for the Capitol Riot? Do you think we should build a Capitol Riot National Memorial and visitor's center where is held annual Commemoration Events? Apparently Fox News thinks the banning of Parler is ALSO Kristallnacht!
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Post by podpeople on Jan 11, 2021 11:08:43 GMT -8
Your interpretation would require the thinking that what Arnold detested about Kristallnacht was all the glass that got broken that night. Kristallnacht wasn't about the mistreatment of glass. I do see what both sides are doing, and what both sides are doing is not in any way comparable to rounding up all the Jews into concentration camps or the Japanese Empire springing a surprise attack that killed thousands of American citizens. Both of those events have monuments constructed in remembrance. We hold Commemoration Events every year at the Pearl Harbor National Memorial. Is that what you expect to be done for the Capitol Riot? Do you think we should build a Capitol Riot National Memorial and visitor's center where is held annual Commemoration Events? Apparently Fox News thinks the banning of Parler is ALSO Kristallnacht! of course they would. They've been the ones spreading the Trump propaganda for the past 5 years, corrupting the minds of the populous with propaganda. Fox Network needs to be shut down.
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Post by uwphoto on Jan 11, 2021 11:46:56 GMT -8
I wonder if these Mensas have thought things through at all. Good idea to destabilize America? So, a bunch of yahoos take over a few Capitol buildings..then what? Suppose they succeed in their wet dream of a take-over..and we basically go into the dark ages. Won't affect me that much, I've accomplished more in my life than I ever dreamed. However, I have grandkids ..and so do a lot of them. Any end game thoughts by the nut cases? Probably not, because based on what we have seen so far..anyway, be careful what you wish for right wing anarchists.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Jan 11, 2021 12:06:21 GMT -8
Your interpretation would require the thinking that what Arnold detested about Kristallnacht was all the glass that got broken that night. Kristallnacht wasn't about the mistreatment of glass. I do see what both sides are doing, and what both sides are doing is not in any way comparable to rounding up all the Jews into concentration camps or the Japanese Empire springing a surprise attack that killed thousands of American citizens. Both of those events have monuments constructed in remembrance. We hold Commemoration Events every year at the Pearl Harbor National Memorial. Is that what you expect to be done for the Capitol Riot? Do you think we should build a Capitol Riot National Memorial and visitor's center where is held annual Commemoration Events? Apparently Fox News thinks the banning of Parler is ALSO Kristallnacht! I've never said Conservatives had the monopoly on brains. There will be right-wingers who eat that up and it is every bit as moronic as the lefties who breathlessly praised the Arnold video for how brave, insightful and accurate it was. Everyone seems to think this is a race to see who can find the strongest label to apply. Every mirror is now a funhouse mirror showing people a comic distortion they want to see. Where did all of the sane people go?!?
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 12:11:39 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 12:44:38 GMT -8
ps: I'm reading where the Capitol police were staffed at a "normal day" level on Wednesday!!! How is this even possible?? This has to be an inside job on some level. It just makes no sense whatsoever. Of course it was an inside job. Trump replaced several key people at the Pentagon in November. Out went the professionals, IN came the Trump Administration loyalists. Any wonder, then, that the National Guard wasn't there? Trump sure didn't want them there! He refused to send them in. Pence had to do it two hours into the siege. There are a ton of dots to connect, all of which lead to Donald J. Trump, Conspirator In Chief. I knew in November that those Pentagon moves (along with similar moves at the FBI and CIA) could be a serious threat. Add to that the fact that Trump shut down a key threat assessment group in the FBI and this thing was set up since BEFORE the election (since Trump knew he was going to lose the vote - the polls showed Biden with a big lead). But the thing we didn't know is that the people in charge of Capitol Security were in on it as well. But they clearly were - the staffing was for a normal day, which when you have both houses of Congress together in one place it most certainly isn't! Especially with a crowd of angry, "Protestors," down the street at the same time! This is the ideological battle you are fighting.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Jan 11, 2021 12:48:49 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jan 11, 2021 13:03:10 GMT -8
Appears to be just a disgruntled staffer.
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