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Post by AztecWilliam on Apr 16, 2024 12:43:36 GMT -8
Well, let's take a look at this article. www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/
Meadows and Cipollone both walked toward the Oval Office dining room. Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, then called asking for Meadows, Hutchinson testified. She said she went to the dining room to give the phone to Meadows, who took the call with the door ajar. Hutchinson said that in the background, she could hear conversations about the chants of “hang Mike Pence” that had sprung up among some of the rioters.
Hutchinson said she returned to her desk and Meadows and Cipollone appeared minutes later.
“I remember Pat saying something to the effect of, ‘Mark, we need to do something more. They’re literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung,’” Hutchinson testified.
“Mark had responded something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong,’” Hutchinson said.
She told the committee, “I understood ‘they’re’ to be the rioters in the Capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung.””
Sounds pretty bad for Trump, doesn't it? Trump did vehemently deny this accusation. Well, of course, we all know that Trump never, ever tells the truth, so that statement can simply be dismissed.  (That's sarcasm, of course. But it leads me to ask whether, in your opinion, Trump has ever told the truth? I mean like ever?)
I will point out that this was hearsay evidence submitted to the committee. We have no direct testimony regarding what Trump may or may not have said regarding calls for Pence to be murdered. Please don't let your blood pressure go off the charts! Even if Trump did, in one of his characteristic fits of temper, say something similar to this charge, there are much more serious and basic reasons to believe that he is unworthy of returning to the White House.
AzWm
PS:
You might want to read this piece, which comments on Hutchinson's reliability as a witness.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-report-debunks-ex-trump-aide-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-to-jan-6-panel/ar-BB1jIOSZ
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 16, 2024 12:59:39 GMT -8
Well, let's take a look at this article. www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/
Meadows and Cipollone both walked toward the Oval Office dining room. Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, then called asking for Meadows, Hutchinson testified. She said she went to the dining room to give the phone to Meadows, who took the call with the door ajar. Hutchinson said that in the background, she could hear conversations about the chants of “hang Mike Pence” that had sprung up among some of the rioters.
Hutchinson said she returned to her desk and Meadows and Cipollone appeared minutes later.
“I remember Pat saying something to the effect of, ‘Mark, we need to do something more. They’re literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung,’” Hutchinson testified.
“Mark had responded something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong,’” Hutchinson said.
She told the committee, “I understood ‘they’re’ to be the rioters in the Capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung.””
Sounds pretty bad for Trump, doesn't it? Trump did vehemently deny this accusation. Well, of course, we all know that Trump never, ever tells the truth, so that statement can simply be dismissed. (That'd sarcasm, of course. But it leads me to ask whether, in your opinion, Trump has even told the truth? I mean like ever?)
I will point out that this was hearsay evidence submitted to the committee. We have no direct testimony regarding what Trump may or may not have said regarding calls for Pence to be murdered. Please don't let your blood pressure go off the charts! Even if Trump did, in one of his characteristic fits of temper, say something similar to this charge, there are much more serious and basic reasons to believe that he is unworthy of returning to the White House.
AzWm
PS:
You might want to read this piece, which comments on Hutchinson's reliability as a witness.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-report-debunks-ex-trump-aide-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-to-jan-6-panel/ar-BB1jIOSZ
Not all of us want to sort through blue text and long-winded responses that go nowhere, when you were asked basic questions that have gone unanswered for days. Hutchinson was not the only witness to testify to the same exchange, she was the only one publicly identified. "Trump has defended the chants about hanging Pence before, telling the author Jon Karl, “Well, the people were very angry,” and adding that it was just “common sense” to be so because Pence was not attempting to block electoral college results. - The Guardian And yeah, I don't personally believe a GOP report investigating the credibility of a witness. |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 16, 2024 13:06:33 GMT -8
Well, let's take a look at this article. www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/
Meadows and Cipollone both walked toward the Oval Office dining room. Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, then called asking for Meadows, Hutchinson testified. She said she went to the dining room to give the phone to Meadows, who took the call with the door ajar. Hutchinson said that in the background, she could hear conversations about the chants of “hang Mike Pence” that had sprung up among some of the rioters.
Hutchinson said she returned to her desk and Meadows and Cipollone appeared minutes later.
“I remember Pat saying something to the effect of, ‘Mark, we need to do something more. They’re literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung,’” Hutchinson testified.
“Mark had responded something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong,’” Hutchinson said.
She told the committee, “I understood ‘they’re’ to be the rioters in the Capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung.””
Sounds pretty bad for Trump, doesn't it? Trump did vehemently deny this accusation. Well, of course, we all know that Trump never, ever tells the truth, so that statement can simply be dismissed. (That's sarcasm, of course. But it leads me to ask whether, in your opinion, Trump has ever told the truth? I mean like ever?)
I will point out that this was hearsay evidence submitted to the committee. We have no direct testimony regarding what Trump may or may not have said regarding calls for Pence to be murdered. Please don't let your blood pressure go off the charts! Even if Trump did, in one of his characteristic fits of temper, say something similar to this charge, there are much more serious and basic reasons to believe that he is unworthy of returning to the White House.
AzWm
PS:
You might want to read this piece, which comments on Hutchinson's reliability as a witness.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-report-debunks-ex-trump-aide-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-to-jan-6-panel/ar-BB1jIOSZ
Meadows refused to comply with a subpoena, or I expect he would have verified this exchange personally. Cipollone invoked executive privilege, or I expect he would have verified this exchange. Hutchinson is paraphrasing her recollection, that does *not* make it hearsay. You might want to read this, from a top lawyer. www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/ncna1296674 |
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 16, 2024 15:37:32 GMT -8
Well, let's take a look at this article. www.snopes.com/fact-check/secret-service-debunked-hutchinson/
Meadows and Cipollone both walked toward the Oval Office dining room. Rep. Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, then called asking for Meadows, Hutchinson testified. She said she went to the dining room to give the phone to Meadows, who took the call with the door ajar. Hutchinson said that in the background, she could hear conversations about the chants of “hang Mike Pence” that had sprung up among some of the rioters.
Hutchinson said she returned to her desk and Meadows and Cipollone appeared minutes later.
“I remember Pat saying something to the effect of, ‘Mark, we need to do something more. They’re literally calling for the vice president to be effing hung,’” Hutchinson testified.
“Mark had responded something to the effect of, ‘You heard him, Pat. He thinks Mike deserves it. He doesn’t think they’re doing anything wrong,’” Hutchinson said.
She told the committee, “I understood ‘they’re’ to be the rioters in the Capitol that were chanting for the vice president to be hung.””
Sounds pretty bad for Trump, doesn't it? Trump did vehemently deny this accusation. Well, of course, we all know that Trump never, ever tells the truth, so that statement can simply be dismissed. (That's sarcasm, of course. But it leads me to ask whether, in your opinion, Trump has ever told the truth? I mean like ever?)
I will point out that this was hearsay evidence submitted to the committee. We have no direct testimony regarding what Trump may or may not have said regarding calls for Pence to be murdered. Please don't let your blood pressure go off the charts! Even if Trump did, in one of his characteristic fits of temper, say something similar to this charge, there are much more serious and basic reasons to believe that he is unworthy of returning to the White House.
AzWm
PS:
You might want to read this piece, which comments on Hutchinson's reliability as a witness.
www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-gop-report-debunks-ex-trump-aide-cassidy-hutchinson-testimony-to-jan-6-panel/ar-BB1jIOSZ
I'm struggling with "much more serious" reasons here. What's more serious than accepting the death of the vice president? |
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Apr 16, 2024 18:49:03 GMT -8
So I guess I am validated, vindicated? As long as Drumpf is defeated come November, life is good!
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 25, 2024 8:45:32 GMT -8
I wonder if William is concerned.
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Post by aztecryan on Apr 25, 2024 13:44:02 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 30, 2024 17:32:22 GMT -8
Missed this over the weekend, but the Trump immunity ruling is due tomorrow. If it's anything less than 9-0 against, this country is in trouble.
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Post by aztecryan on Jul 1, 2024 7:31:50 GMT -8
Holy $#!+.
We are a joke of a country.
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Post by uwphoto on Jul 1, 2024 7:51:13 GMT -8
Holy $#!+. We are a joke of a country. we are heading into a very dark period in our country.. |
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Post by waxxon on Jul 1, 2024 10:16:45 GMT -8
time to move to Russia russia russia
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Post by Fishn'Aztec on Jul 2, 2024 15:50:25 GMT -8
Holy $#!+. We are a joke of a country. I took the flag down this morning, and I thought of the David Bowie song:"This is not America"! |
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Post by aztecbrothers on Oct 13, 2024 13:13:21 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 13, 2024 14:03:43 GMT -8
You are such a strange individual. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 18, 2024 8:30:36 GMT -8
Judge Chutkan allowed for the release of hundreds of pages of documents involved with the election interference case. Among them is this witness interview:
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Oct 18, 2024 8:51:29 GMT -8
Judge Chutkan allowed for the release of hundreds of pages of documents involved with the election interference case. Among them is this witness interview: Listen...we all know what happened...it's just 60 percent of white voters don't give an ish...they know Trump is a terrible, unqualified human being...may likely be a Russian plant or under its influence...60 percent of white voters don't give a darn about democracy if it doesn't mean that a white man is not in charge...democracy is for all the people...white supremacy is for "whites only"...it was one thing when solely whites were arguing about who gets what when...it was one thing when they allowed a hand-picked non-white man to token their cause...it is quite another to see a non-white man with real power...it is quite another see multitudes of non-white voters not choosing to serve white interests...so there is an attack on all things non-white...trying to preserve the inevitable slippage of white supremacy from a dwindling white population...so democracy doesn't work in their favor anymore...so now it's time to cheat, steal, bite, etc...stop thinking Trump voters are dumb and misguided...they know what they're doing...and who/what they are voting for...this election is one big The Derogatory Word for Blacks Are Coming for 60 percent of white voters...Trump and Vance are not even dog whistling it..... |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 18, 2024 10:12:23 GMT -8
Judge Chutkan allowed for the release of hundreds of pages of documents involved with the election interference case. Among them is this witness interview: Listen...we all know what happened...it's just 60 percent of white voters don't give an ish...they know Trump is a terrible, unqualified human being...may likely be a Russian plant or under its influence...60 percent of white voters don't give a darn about democracy if it doesn't mean that a white man is not in charge...democracy is for all the people...white supremacy is for "whites only"...it was one thing when solely whites were arguing about who gets what when...it was one thing when they allowed a hand-picked non-white man to token their cause...it is quite another to see a non-white man with real power...it is quite another see multitudes of non-white voters not choosing to serve white interests...so there is an attack on all things non-white...trying to preserve the inevitable slippage of white supremacy from a dwindling white population...so democracy doesn't work in their favor anymore...so now it's time to cheat, steal, bite, etc...stop thinking Trump voters are dumb and misguided...they know what they're doing...and who/what they are voting for...this election is one big The Derogatory Word for Blacks Are Coming for 60 percent of white voters...Trump and Vance are not even dog whistling it..... Everything is about the color of one's skin to you, unfortunately. Someone with victimhood. Get a grip. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 18, 2024 10:25:28 GMT -8
Listen...we all know what happened...it's just 60 percent of white voters don't give an ish...they know Trump is a terrible, unqualified human being...may likely be a Russian plant or under its influence...60 percent of white voters don't give a darn about democracy if it doesn't mean that a white man is not in charge...democracy is for all the people...white supremacy is for "whites only"...it was one thing when solely whites were arguing about who gets what when...it was one thing when they allowed a hand-picked non-white man to token their cause...it is quite another to see a non-white man with real power...it is quite another see multitudes of non-white voters not choosing to serve white interests...so there is an attack on all things non-white...trying to preserve the inevitable slippage of white supremacy from a dwindling white population...so democracy doesn't work in their favor anymore...so now it's time to cheat, steal, bite, etc...stop thinking Trump voters are dumb and misguided...they know what they're doing...and who/what they are voting for...this election is one big The Derogatory Word for Blacks Are Coming for 60 percent of white voters...Trump and Vance are not even dog whistling it..... Everything is about the color of one's skin to you, unfortunately. Someone with victimhood. Get a grip. Rich. |
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Post by johneaztec on Oct 18, 2024 10:47:52 GMT -8
Everything is about the color of one's skin to you, unfortunately. Someone with victimhood. Get a grip. Rich. Truth. |
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Post by aztecryan on Oct 18, 2024 11:04:09 GMT -8
You seem to certainly identify with "victims" elsewhere if they align with your thoughts. I can think of a few. When JD Vance, someone you called "polished" if memory serves, uses coded language...or Donald Trump, for that matter, that seems like a pretty easy indicator of racial overtones. And they aren't even really hiding it, if you're actually paying attention. |
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(That's sarcasm, of course. But it leads me to ask whether, in your opinion, Trump has ever told the truth? I mean like ever?)
