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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 10:51:05 GMT -8
Adam Schiff isn't running for president. ' You Are A War Criminal!': Pro-Palestine Protestors Shout Down Hillary Clinton During Columbia Eventwww.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ2GK8nGfoOnly a person with his/her head in the ground thinks/feels this sensation...the murder, genocide and accomplice to war criminals of innocent children/people...is confined to Shifty Schiff and not to the Democratic party as a whole.... I've said this about 50 times, so here's 51. The election is held in November. It's March. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Mar 6, 2024 11:03:29 GMT -8
Biden Heckled At Least 11 Times By Pro-Palestinian Activistswww.youtube.com/watch?v=W3uCD3MmRhkBiden gets called 'Genocide Joe' by LA Protesterswww.youtube.com/watch?v=szcpsAhRkRU' You Are A War Criminal!': Pro-Palestine Protestors Shout Down Hillary Clinton During Columbia Eventwww.youtube.com/watch?v=wyZ2GK8nGfoOnly a person with his/her head in the ground thinks/feels this sensation...the murder, genocide and accomplice to war criminals of innocent children/people...is confined to Shifty Schiff and not to the Democratic party as a whole.... I've said this about 50 times, so here's 51. The election is held in November. It's March. I'm saying if Biden pulls it off...I'm impressed...if Trump wins...I'm not surprised...it's a battle between democracy and white supremacy...who/what America is or not...you seem to be under the impression that you can turn the voter off and on...my life experience says once you've turned someone off...it takes a lot of time, money and energy to turn them around...and when one goes against what they think is morally right...they might not want to hear anything you have to say or done to make it right...Biden and fellow Democrats...have turned a lot of people off with their capitulation of democratic principles/human rights to appease the Israeli lobby... |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 11:10:01 GMT -8
I've said this about 50 times, so here's 51. The election is held in November. It's March. I'm saying if Biden pulls it off...I'm impressed...if Trump wins...I'm not surprised...it's a battle between democracy and white supremacy...who/what America is or not...you seem to be under the impression that you can turn the voter off and on...my life experience says once you've turned someone off...it takes a lot of time, money and energy to turn them around...and when one goes against what they think is morally right...they might not want to hear anything you have to say or done to make it right...Biden and fellow Democrats...have turned a lot of people off with their capitulation of democratic principles/human rights to appease the Israeli lobby... You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 11:54:17 GMT -8
Mitch McConnell, three years ago.
Mitch McConnell today? Endorsed the same person for president.
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Post by johneaztec on Mar 6, 2024 14:04:52 GMT -8
I'm saying if Biden pulls it off...I'm impressed...if Trump wins...I'm not surprised...it's a battle between democracy and white supremacy...who/what America is or not...you seem to be under the impression that you can turn the voter off and on...my life experience says once you've turned someone off...it takes a lot of time, money and energy to turn them around...and when one goes against what they think is morally right...they might not want to hear anything you have to say or done to make it right...Biden and fellow Democrats...have turned a lot of people off with their capitulation of democratic principles/human rights to appease the Israeli lobby... You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. I agree with this. I think part of it comes down to how many Republicans didn't vote last time and now are voting for Trump, and how many Republicans voted for Biden and are now switching to Trump. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 14:12:44 GMT -8
You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. I agree with this. I think part of it comes down to how many Republicans didn't vote last time and now are voting for Trump, and how many Republicans voted for Biden and are now switching to Trump. The amount of "never Trump" voters continues to grow, even in deep red territory. Polls won't tell you everything, but Trump has underperformed expectations in virtually every state thus far. Haley wouldn't endorse him when dropping out today, in fact, there's even a movement now to get Haley voters to vote for *Biden.* He'll continue to be overrepresented while Biden continues to be underrepresented, very much the same theme as 2020. |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Mar 6, 2024 15:25:01 GMT -8
I'm saying if Biden pulls it off...I'm impressed...if Trump wins...I'm not surprised...it's a battle between democracy and white supremacy...who/what America is or not...you seem to be under the impression that you can turn the voter off and on...my life experience says once you've turned someone off...it takes a lot of time, money and energy to turn them around...and when one goes against what they think is morally right...they might not want to hear anything you have to say or done to make it right...Biden and fellow Democrats...have turned a lot of people off with their capitulation of democratic principles/human rights to appease the Israeli lobby... You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. "If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh." Majority of Biden Voters Oppose Weapons Shipments to Israel, Poll Says"A new poll released Tuesday shows that a sizable majority of voters who backed President Joe Biden in 2020 oppose weapons shipments to Israel, the latest sign that Israel’s offensive in Gaza remains a political liability for the president’s reelection campaign." "...52 percent of Americans agree that the U.S. should halt arms shipments to Israel until it ends its military offensive against the Palestinian militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Among voters who supported Biden in 2020, that number jumps to 62 percent." www.politico.com/news/2024/03/05/israel-gaza-poll-voters-biden-00144976#:~:text=A%20new%20poll%20released%20Tuesday,for%20the%20president%27s%20reelection%20campaign. There's a reason Biden made no appearance yesterday after his victories in states where " Uncommitted" got 10 percent or more...why he can't go to a college campus...or any Democrat bastion.... |
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Mar 6, 2024 15:26:53 GMT -8
You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. "If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh." Majority of Biden Voters Oppose Weapons Shipments to Israel, Poll Says"A new poll released Tuesday shows that a sizable majority of voters who backed President Joe Biden in 2020 oppose weapons shipments to Israel, the latest sign that Israel’s offensive in Gaza remains a political liability for the president’s reelection campaign." "...52 percent of Americans agree that the U.S. should halt arms shipments to Israel until it ends its military offensive against the Palestinian militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Among voters who supported Biden in 2020, that number jumps to 62 percent." www.politico.com/news/2024/03/05/israel-gaza-poll-voters-biden-00144976#:~:text=A%20new%20poll%20released%20Tuesday,for%20the%20president%27s%20reelection%20campaign. There's a reason Biden made no appearance yesterday after his victories in states where " Uncommitted" got 10 percent or more...why he can't go to a college campus...or any Democrat bastion...only a fool would laugh at that.... |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 15:39:50 GMT -8
You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. "If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh." Majority of Biden Voters Oppose Weapons Shipments to Israel, Poll Says"A new poll released Tuesday shows that a sizable majority of voters who backed President Joe Biden in 2020 oppose weapons shipments to Israel, the latest sign that Israel’s offensive in Gaza remains a political liability for the president’s reelection campaign." "...52 percent of Americans agree that the U.S. should halt arms shipments to Israel until it ends its military offensive against the Palestinian militant group Hamas in the Gaza Strip. Among voters who supported Biden in 2020, that number jumps to 62 percent." www.politico.com/news/2024/03/05/israel-gaza-poll-voters-biden-00144976#:~:text=A%20new%20poll%20released%20Tuesday,for%20the%20president%27s%20reelection%20campaign. There's a reason Biden made no appearance yesterday after his victories in states where " Uncommitted" got 10 percent or more...why he can't go to a college campus...or any Democrat bastion.... Just because people oppose something (in March) doesn't mean they'll oppose it in November....nor does it mean they are going to vote against Biden. Once the ceasefire happens, it'll be a non-issue. |
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Post by North County Aztec on Mar 6, 2024 16:56:05 GMT -8
You absolutely can, like I illustrated above. The average voter doesn't pay attention. If you think the election is swinging based on the Gaza conflict...I can only laugh. There are so many factors in play here. I agree with this. I think part of it comes down to how many Republicans didn't vote last time and now are voting for Trump, and how many Republicans voted for Biden and are now switching to Trump. According to the New York Times/Siena poll, 97% of those who voted for the Orange Man in 2020 intend to do so again in 2024, compared with 83% for Joey. 10% of Joey’s former supporters say that they will switch to Orange. Joey outpolled Orange in 2020 by nearly 4.5 points but now trails him by 2.1, a 6.6-point swing. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 17:43:34 GMT -8
I agree with this. I think part of it comes down to how many Republicans didn't vote last time and now are voting for Trump, and how many Republicans voted for Biden and are now switching to Trump. According to the New York Times/Siena poll, 97% of those who voted for the Orange Man in 2020 intend to do so again in 2024, compared with 83% for Joey. 10% of Joey’s former supporters say that they will switch to Orange. Joey outpolled Orange in 2020 by nearly 4.5 points but now trails him by 2.1, a 6.6-point swing. Here's the link to the story with the numbers. A few issues, though: The economics professor that was interviewed said "Trump voters will show up no matter what." Except in 2020...they didn't. Non-voters back Trump by a significant margin, but they don't vote. Biden's lack of popularity and age are obvious major factors. Then there's this, also from the NYT: "There might be a kernel of good news for Mr. Biden contained in his extreme weakness among less engaged voters: His campaign can hope they’re simply not paying close attention, and might return to his side once voters tune into the race. My colleague Claire Cain Miller, for instance, interviewed a voter who said abortion was the most important issue, but blamed Mr. Biden for the loss of abortion rights in America. That’s exactly the kind of voter a campaign can hope to sway." (This illustrates my earlier point that the average voter isn't really paying attention to key issues.) |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 6, 2024 18:37:24 GMT -8
According to the New York Times/Siena poll, 97% of those who voted for the Orange Man in 2020 intend to do so again in 2024, compared with 83% for Joey. 10% of Joey’s former supporters say that they will switch to Orange. Joey outpolled Orange in 2020 by nearly 4.5 points but now trails him by 2.1, a 6.6-point swing. Here's the link to the story with the numbers. A few issues, though: The economics professor that was interviewed said "Trump voters will show up no matter what." Except in 2020...they didn't. Non-voters back Trump by a significant margin, but they don't vote. Biden's lack of popularity and age are obvious major factors. Then there's this, also from the NYT: "There might be a kernel of good news for Mr. Biden contained in his extreme weakness among less engaged voters: His campaign can hope they’re simply not paying close attention, and might return to his side once voters tune into the race. My colleague Claire Cain Miller, for instance, interviewed a voter who said abortion was the most important issue, but blamed Mr. Biden for the loss of abortion rights in America. That’s exactly the kind of voter a campaign can hope to sway." (This illustrates my earlier point that the average voter isn't really paying attention to key issues.) "I love the poorly educated"....for a reason. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 18:46:21 GMT -8
www.nytimes.com/2024/03/02/us/politics/biden-trump-times-siena-poll.htmlHere's the link to the story with the numbers. A few issues, though: The economics professor that was interviewed said "Trump voters will show up no matter what." Except in 2020...they didn't. Non-voters back Trump by a significant margin, but they don't vote. Biden's lack of popularity and age are obvious major factors. Then there's this, also from the NYT: "There might be a kernel of good news for Mr. Biden contained in his extreme weakness among less engaged voters: His campaign can hope they’re simply not paying close attention, and might return to his side once voters tune into the race. My colleague Claire Cain Miller, for instance, interviewed a voter who said abortion was the most important issue, but blamed Mr. Biden for the loss of abortion rights in America. That’s exactly the kind of voter a campaign can hope to sway." (This illustrates my earlier point that the average voter isn't really paying attention to key issues.) "I love the poorly educated"....for a reason. Not the point I was trying to make - The average voter who doesn't follow political news comprises a lot of the overall electorate. The discussion thus far has been focused on things that I don't personally see as swaying an election - Both candidates aren't very popular, despite what the NYT says and it's likely just going to come down to what party establishes their base to go out and vote. Trump's base tends to be weighted more heavily than the numbers actually indicate, as many of his non-voters aren't captured. |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 6, 2024 18:51:44 GMT -8
"I love the poorly educated"....for a reason. Not the point I was trying to make - The average voter who doesn't follow political news comprises a lot of the overall electorate. The discussion thus far has been focused on things that I don't personally see as swaying an election - Both candidates aren't very popular, despite what the NYT says and it's likely just going to come down to what party establishes their base to go out and vote. Trump's base tends to be weighted more heavily than the numbers actually indicate, as many of his non-voters aren't captured. ok, how do you describe the voter you described? Do they live in a cave? Do they have any friends? Or are they just stupid? |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 18:52:43 GMT -8
"I love the poorly educated"....for a reason. Not the point I was trying to make - The average voter who doesn't follow political news comprises a lot of the overall electorate. The discussion thus far has been focused on things that I don't personally see as swaying an election - Both candidates aren't very popular, despite what the NYT says and it's likely just going to come down to what party establishes their base to go out and vote. Trump's base tends to be weighted more heavily than the numbers actually indicate, as many of his non-voters aren't captured. 21% of people polled in the NYT/Siena poll believe Trump committed a serious federal crime but still plan to vote for him. 85% of Democrats polled believe he committed a serious federal crime, but only 21% of Republicans believe the same. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 18:53:50 GMT -8
Not the point I was trying to make - The average voter who doesn't follow political news comprises a lot of the overall electorate. The discussion thus far has been focused on things that I don't personally see as swaying an election - Both candidates aren't very popular, despite what the NYT says and it's likely just going to come down to what party establishes their base to go out and vote. Trump's base tends to be weighted more heavily than the numbers actually indicate, as many of his non-voters aren't captured. ok, how do you describe the voter you described? Do they live in a cave? Do they have any friends? Or are they just stupid? They probably just don't pay attention. It's easily done, believe it or not. If you polled 100 people randomly from various parts of the country, I would bet less than half could tell you what Roe v. Wade was or who ultimately ended it. |
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Post by uwphoto on Mar 6, 2024 19:00:43 GMT -8
ok, how do you describe the voter you described? Do they live in a cave? Do they have any friends? Or are they just stupid? They probably just don't pay attention. It's easily done, believe it or not. If you polled 100 people randomly from various parts of the country, I would bet less than half could tell you what Roe v. Wade was. Sad observation. When my European relatives would come over here and mingle with the general population, they were often shocked at the knowledge base / education level of Americans. My daughter went to Poway High, part of the renowned Poway School District. One day she brought a friend over and I was talking to her. We were on a subject and I mentioned that we had dropped a nuclear bomb on Japan during WW2. The glazed look she gave me told me all I needed to know. Idiocracy, the B Movie, was right..and we are most likely f****d. |
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 19:08:22 GMT -8
This is what we're actually fighting against.
There's a line between genuinely not knowing and basic ignorance. These people tend to be exaggerated in the polls, though.
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Post by aztecryan on Mar 6, 2024 19:30:20 GMT -8
Another hugely important thing that's not getting discussed: RNC leadership has given the green light to have its funding used to pay Trump's legal bills. This means the GOP will be at a sizable funding disadvantage going forward. Money tends to matter in these things pretty significantly.
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Post by bnastyaztecs on Mar 10, 2024 7:42:59 GMT -8
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