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Post by chris92065 on Dec 6, 2020 9:38:06 GMT -8
In fact, the swine flu was most likely just as deadly. We have no where near the testing capabilities we do now and how causes of death were listed compared to today were different so on the surface the numbers will look like covid appears to be deadlier.
This virus should be treated seriously, but I personally disagree with declaring martial law to somehow "slow the spread."
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Post by aztecfred on Dec 6, 2020 10:04:13 GMT -8
Just live your life in a bubble, it's that simple. Then you won't have to worry about other people. Heck I won't even blame you for all the suicides that resulted from the lockdown. With that said I'm glad you got to enjoy today's Aztec's win, considering the players don't wear masks and all... I'm not worried about other people. I'm concerned about economic fallout that could be largely avoided with better cooperation. This country could never handle something like World War 2 these days. Way too much self centeredness for that. Maybe they really were the greatest generation. Definitely some fall off since. Thanks for not blaming me for suicides. Real big of you. I did enjoy the game. Players don't wear masks when playing that's true. They get tested regularly. Had there been an outbreak on either side there would have been no game. At least not an SDSU-CSU game. Maybe? They were!! |
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Post by aztecfred on Dec 6, 2020 10:08:05 GMT -8
We could move r games to Yuma Community College? Kinda like Football, but easterly.
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Post by AzTex on Dec 6, 2020 10:45:54 GMT -8
We could move r games to Yuma Community College? Kinda like Football, but easterly. If we can't watch in person I don't really care what oversized TV studio (as one writer described it) we play in. |
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Post by pbnative on Dec 6, 2020 13:19:43 GMT -8
15% capacity rule a farce. ICU's already operate at a fairly high capacity, probably close to 80%.
Welcome to day #262 of 15 days to stop the spread.
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Dec 6, 2020 19:38:51 GMT -8
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Post by aztec00 on Dec 6, 2020 20:25:11 GMT -8
Actually it says “nearly half,” which is ambiguous. Also, most people who are hospitalized have medical conditions which are exasperated by COVID, so many of those people could have been hospitalized anyway. We can debate which is more harmful to our nation: (possibly) increased risk of contracting an illness that is dangerous to a small part of the population and deadly to a minuscule part of the population; or harming a great portion of the population through job loss, economic hardship, increased rates of depression, drug abuse and overdose, and suicide. Apart from that, the Supreme Court said most appropriately: “But even in a pandemic, the Constitution cannot be put away and forgotten.” |
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Post by pbnative on Dec 6, 2020 20:47:33 GMT -8
My math is fine, the 15% is just another fabricated number used to extend the State of emergency, same as the "50% of California population will die" or the color coding rainbow of cases per 100,000. Hospitals don't run a high paid staff and expensive equipment to monitor an empty ICU capacity. 86% is a little hight, but ICUs are typically run about 80% at any given time. I don't know for sure, but Purhapse Scripps is taking more covid patients and other people are getting sent to other hospitals so those patients are not at risk. Typically hospitals have setup quarantine floors to house covid cases. 100% ICU capacity does not mean the hospital can't handle more ICU patients either. The only difference between an ICU room and the rest of the hospital beds are the nursing staff training and some of the monitors/equipment that are housed in the room. Should a hospital get overwhelmed, staff with similar training can be brought from other areas of the hospital, they can request ventilators and staffing assistance from outside sources if needed. |
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Post by La Mesa Aztec on Dec 6, 2020 22:48:22 GMT -8
We can debate which is more harmful to our nation: (possibly) increased risk of contracting an illness that is dangerous to a small part of the population and deadly to a minuscule part of the population; or harming a great portion of the population through job loss, economic hardship, increased rates of depression, drug abuse and overdose, and suicide. As if those were the only two choices. Black or white. |
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Post by heuschele on Dec 7, 2020 0:47:54 GMT -8
In fact, the swine flu was most likely just as deadly. We have no where near the testing capabilities we do now and how causes of death were listed compared to today were different so on the surface the numbers will look like covid appears to be deadlier. This virus should be treated seriously, but I personally disagree with declaring martial law to somehow "slow the spread." Are you an immunologist? I prefer to listen to dr faucet and CDC over anyone else. I do not let the politician work on my car, build my house, give me financial advice. I choose experts in those fields. For this virus, Dr Fauci and the CDC are the recognized top experts. |
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Post by McQuervo on Dec 7, 2020 5:53:44 GMT -8
In fact, the swine flu was most likely just as deadly. We have no where near the testing capabilities we do now and how causes of death were listed compared to today were different so on the surface the numbers will look like covid appears to be deadlier. This virus should be treated seriously, but I personally disagree with declaring martial law to somehow "slow the spread." Are you an immunologist? I prefer to listen to dr faucet and CDC over anyone else. I do not let the politician work on my car, build my house, give me financial advice. I choose experts in those fields. For this virus, Dr Fauci and the CDC are the recognized top experts. If Fauci is a top recognized expert, we are screwed. That clown wouldn't last 5 minutes in the private sector as much as he contradicts himself. |
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Dec 7, 2020 6:01:40 GMT -8
In fact, the swine flu was most likely just as deadly. We have no where near the testing capabilities we do now and how causes of death were listed compared to today were different so on the surface the numbers will look like covid appears to be deadlier. This virus should be treated seriously, but I personally disagree with declaring martial law to somehow "slow the spread." Are you an immunologist? I prefer to listen to dr faucet and CDC over anyone else. I do not let the politician work on my car, build my house, give me financial advice. I choose experts in those fields. For this virus, Dr Fauci and the CDC are the recognized top experts. Along that same line of thinking, we shouldn't let health experts set government policy. They can tell us the risks but its up to us to choose how we manage them |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 6:26:49 GMT -8
I recently relocated from Sonoma County California to Lexington, Ky for 2 reasons:
1. California politics
2. Cost of housing
Result:
1. Traded in hypocrite Pelosi and liar Schiff for good ole country boy Mitch McConnell
2. Traded in my 1 BR apartment & its $2,600 price tag for a 3BR, 3BA house with 2 car garage and fenced in yard at $1,295/mos.
Opinion:
1. Win
2. Win
If the ICU capacity is so threatening, why isn't the hospital ship Mercy anchored at L.A. harbor? It would have a significant effect at lowering the numbers.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Dec 7, 2020 6:49:07 GMT -8
I recently relocated from Sonoma County California to Lexington, Ky for 2 reasons: 1. California politics 2. Cost of housing Result: 1. Traded in hypocrite Pelosi and liar Schiff for good ole country boy Mitch McConnell 2. Traded in my 1 BR apartment & its $2,600 price tag for a 3BR, 3BA house with 2 car garage and fenced in yard at $1,295/mos. Opinion: 1. Win 2. Win If the ICU capacity is so threatening, why isn't the hospital ship Mercy anchored at L.A. harbor? It would have a significant effect at lowering the numbers. Congratulations on the move. That chunk of the United States is beautiful. How do the locals treat you when they find out you’re from California? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 7:00:58 GMT -8
I recently relocated from Sonoma County California to Lexington, Ky for 2 reasons: 1. California politics 2. Cost of housing Result: 1. Traded in hypocrite Pelosi and liar Schiff for good ole country boy Mitch McConnell 2. Traded in my 1 BR apartment & its $2,600 price tag for a 3BR, 3BA house with 2 car garage and fenced in yard at $1,295/mos. Opinion: 1. Win 2. Win If the ICU capacity is so threatening, why isn't the hospital ship Mercy anchored at L.A. harbor? It would have a significant effect at lowering the numbers. Congratulations on the move. That chunk of the United States is beautiful. How do the locals treat you when they find out you’re from California? Everyone out here is very friendly, even the neighborhood kids who drop by to say hi and ask how I'm doing. I got laid off by phone at 7pm on my birthday (March 31st). I wasn't planning to retire for a few years and my savings are not what I'd like them to be. But, I decided the heck with it...time to relax and enjoy life. This spring I'll start checking out the rivers and lakes and do some world class fishing. With the $ I'm saving on rent and $1.99/gal gasoline, I'll be buying a bass boat. My sister and brother-in-law from Sonoma County have now decided to move here once she retires on 1/31/21. They bought their little ranch style home in the early 90's for under 200k and will get at least 800k for it. They will be going from 1,700 sq ft to over 4,000 sq ft and put a few hundred thousand in the bank. Life is good, with the exception of Covid. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Dec 7, 2020 7:15:17 GMT -8
I recently relocated from Sonoma County California to Lexington, Ky for 2 reasons: 1. California politics 2. Cost of housing Result: 1. Traded in hypocrite Pelosi and liar Schiff for good ole country boy Mitch McConnell 2. Traded in my 1 BR apartment & its $2,600 price tag for a 3BR, 3BA house with 2 car garage and fenced in yard at $1,295/mos. Opinion: 1. Win 2. Win If the ICU capacity is so threatening, why isn't the hospital ship Mercy anchored at L.A. harbor? It would have a significant effect at lowering the numbers. SHOCK is what many get. 😁 I went to Kentucky and it seemed like I went back in time 20 years. I did get the sense people were nice and I agree the prices of things are not even close. It is a beautiful part of the country and a great place to visit. Maybe we can all pitch in and send you some In N Out once you need a good burger. Congrats on the move and I am thinking Wyoming, S Dakota, Nevada but just some place where I can establish residency outside of CA like you did. I hate this State like most and I want to leave yesterday. I only need my kids to graduate HS and go to college then I can pack up and go. |
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Post by moctezumaii on Dec 7, 2020 7:35:04 GMT -8
I recently relocated from Sonoma County California to Lexington, Ky for 2 reasons: 1. California politics 2. Cost of housing Result: 1. Traded in hypocrite Pelosi and liar Schiff for good ole country boy Mitch McConnell 2. Traded in my 1 BR apartment & its $2,600 price tag for a 3BR, 3BA house with 2 car garage and fenced in yard at $1,295/mos. Opinion: 1. Win 2. Win If the ICU capacity is so threatening, why isn't the hospital ship Mercy anchored at L.A. harbor? It would have a significant effect at lowering the numbers. We just sold our condo here in Mission Valley yesterday, we're moving to Nashville. Our little 2 bedroom condo fetched 474K, and that's without any improvements whatsoever since we bought it 15 years ago. In Nashville, we just offered on the 2800 square-foot home pictured below. It's on a half acre of land and only 10 miles outside the Downtown Nashville, a mile from the Cumberland River. For just 369K. In effect, we can buy a fishing boat, an Rv and a gorgeous house for the same amount as a 1046 square foot bandbox in festering, traffic ridden Mission Valley (just wait til they start tearing up the golf course next year for the condo project). It's crazy how far money goes outside Cali! Hell, Tennessee's state income tax tops out at 2%. Born and raised in Dago, but it's just not what it was even 20 years ago, let alone in the glorious 70s and 80s when it really was America's Finest City.  Final Note: After the appraiser finished his work with us a couple weeks back, he asked if we were moving locally. When we said we were moving to Nashville, he shook his head and said, 'Every seller I've asked for last three weeks said they are moving out of California. It's been nearly a month since someone answered that they were moving locally." |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2020 8:03:28 GMT -8
Congrats! Very nice. I spent a few days in Nashville on my trip out here before my move. Downtown Nashville is crazy but that visit was pre-Covid. Music blasting from every building and establishment. Great fishing in TN as well.
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Dec 7, 2020 8:04:47 GMT -8
Very nice house and congrats on the move to TN. I have talked to at least 5 people the last few months who are moving to Nashville. Seems like a great city, reasonable living expenses, beautiful, crazy friendly people, etc. seems like a great choice. Unfortunately, mama bear is going to decide where I live and she is going where our kids go. I may be moving by myself so keep a room open for rent for me just in case.
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Post by sdmotohead on Dec 7, 2020 8:08:55 GMT -8
Well Newsom is the Unofficial spokesperson for U-Haul...
I personally know 8 families that have moved within the past 3 months to Boise, ID area. Specifically Meredian, Eagle, even Nampa. Another friend is also considering Nashville.
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