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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 12:40:15 GMT -8
It's already been wrecked, unfortunately. The damage has to be mitigated. Unless you have unity on both sides of Congress, whoever the president is is really inconsequential. It's gridlock, partisan division across mostly everything of importance Six more years of Mitch McConnell and the stonewalling of legislation - COVID relief? Healthcare? Perhaps you think that all official actions taken by President Trump are so abominable that all must be overturned lest America disintegrate. I'm sure plenty of those actions can be disputed. But all of them? Even the worst President (and I know that you consider DJT to be the worst) does some things right. Here is a list of some of Trump's important actions. I am eager to learn what you think a President Biden should do with respect to those actions. 1. The move of our embassy to Jerusalem. Do you want a President Biden to move the embassy back to Tel Aviv? 2. The recent peace deals between the UAE and Israel and a similar one between Israel and Bahrain. Should we urge the UAE and Bahrain to renege on those agreements? 3. Trump criticized China for its Hong Kong policy and signed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act. Perhaps we should cancel that act and urge the Hong Kong residents to shut up and get with the program. 4. Iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism in the world. Trump has put greater pressure on Iran. Should we remove all sanctions on Iran and say we are sorry? 5. President Trump created the National Council for the American Worker, whose goal is to develop a National strategy for training and retraining workers needed across high-demand industries. Should we cancel that program and let workers fend for themselves? 6. Operation Lightspeed, which appears close to resulting in one or more Covid-19 vaccine. Should we tell the companies involved, Forget about it!My hope is that you will address each and every one of these points. Explain why you think why each should be accepted or opposed. AzWm Nowhere did I say "all" anywhere - I don't care about the embassy in Jerusalem, peace treaties about countries who aren't even fighting or any of your other bizarre, inconsequential talking points. I'm talking about actual issues here in America that affect actual people in America. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 4, 2020 12:43:12 GMT -8
Trump needs to win Pennsylvania and Arizona. Tough hill.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 12:45:10 GMT -8
Trump needs to win Pennsylvania and Arizona. Tough hill. Not enough. Only gets him to 260. Biden up 60,000 in Michigan, so that's a wrap there. The Pennsylvania margin is shrinking again. Eric Trump just declared victory in PA. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 4, 2020 13:09:27 GMT -8
Trump needs to win Pennsylvania and Arizona. Tough hill. Not enough. Only gets him to 260. Biden up 60,000 in Michigan, so that's a wrap there. The Pennsylvania margin is shrinking again. Eric Trump just declared victory in PA. I'm assuming he gets Georgia, N.C, etc.... |
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Post by aardvark on Nov 4, 2020 13:16:20 GMT -8
I disagree with your premise that shapes your opinion on whether it's good to be divided because it doesn't benefit your side. Literally though, the only news that matters today is the massive USPS corruption. I think I wouldn't normally feel that way as much as I do this election. Since both candidates/administrations are awful I'd rather nothing get done and just buy time until the next election. I'd like to wait until we have someone who is actually a good leader and smart to be in the white house before things get passed... Not wreck it in the meantime Which should be the case, with the Republicans hanging on to the Senate. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 13:17:18 GMT -8
Not enough. Only gets him to 260. Biden up 60,000 in Michigan, so that's a wrap there. The Pennsylvania margin is shrinking again. Eric Trump just declared victory in PA. I'm assuming he gets Georgia, N.C, etc.... North Carolina would be challenged in court, I would think. DeJoy tampering screwed the pooch. Margin in Georgia continues to shrink. Dekalb County has a TON of outstanding votes. Biden will almost certainly pass Trump. Pennsylvania is down to just over 300,000 now and will likewise be tilting heavily towards Biden. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 13:28:54 GMT -8
Michigan called for Biden. If Biden wins Pennsylvania, he wins the White House.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 4, 2020 13:52:45 GMT -8
Biden is now trailing by 78,000 votes. Georgia's outstanding votes are from Fulton County metro areas and surrounding blue districts. There are roughly 400,000 ballots left, from the projections. I think Biden wins Michigan and Georgia, which renders everything else inconsequential. Biden would have 274 electoral votes at that point, even if he loses control of Arizona. Not that I think he will need it, but Biden's deficit in Pennsylvania is now down to 400,000 with huge Democratic county populations still to go (Chester, Delaware, Montgomery) - I think Biden carries Pennsylvania by 50,000+. Edit : Michigan has 99% of precincts reporting, Biden's advantage is 38,000 votes. Edit 2 : I've been up 26 hours straight, Arizona has 11 electoral votes, so Biden would have 269, not 274. Georgia has roughly 355k votes still out there and Trump has a 78k lead. That means under the best-case-scenario where all 355k come in, Biden will need to win more than 61% of them versus Trump only needing to win 39% to win the state. That is best case for Biden. If only some fraction of those 355k ballots come in, because only a portion of those are currently in-hand now, then the percentage Biden needs goes up. Nevada is going to go to Biden. If Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia all go to Trump, then it will all come down to Pennsylvania. Whomever wins Pennsylvania wins the election, and that could all come down to the Supreme Court because Chief Justice John Roberts thought the Supreme Court was too busy to hear arguments on Pennsylvania's ballot issue before the vote. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 14:09:25 GMT -8
How to get a tweet flagged within 10 minutes, exhibit A.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 14:10:40 GMT -8
Biden is now trailing by 78,000 votes. Georgia's outstanding votes are from Fulton County metro areas and surrounding blue districts. There are roughly 400,000 ballots left, from the projections. I think Biden wins Michigan and Georgia, which renders everything else inconsequential. Biden would have 274 electoral votes at that point, even if he loses control of Arizona. Not that I think he will need it, but Biden's deficit in Pennsylvania is now down to 400,000 with huge Democratic county populations still to go (Chester, Delaware, Montgomery) - I think Biden carries Pennsylvania by 50,000+. Edit : Michigan has 99% of precincts reporting, Biden's advantage is 38,000 votes. Edit 2 : I've been up 26 hours straight, Arizona has 11 electoral votes, so Biden would have 269, not 274. Georgia has roughly 355k votes still out there and Trump has a 78k lead. That means under the best-case-scenario where all 355k come in, Biden will need to win more than 61% of them versus Trump only needing to win 39% to win the state. That is best case for Biden. If only some fraction of those 355k ballots come in, because only a portion of those are currently in-hand now, then the percentage Biden needs goes up. Nevada is going to go to Biden. If Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia all go to Trump, then it will all come down to Pennsylvania. Whomever wins Pennsylvania wins the election, and that could all come down to the Supreme Court because Chief Justice John Roberts thought the Supreme Court was too busy to hear arguments on Pennsylvania's ballot issue before the vote. Not happening. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 4, 2020 14:11:39 GMT -8
Biden is now trailing by 78,000 votes. Georgia's outstanding votes are from Fulton County metro areas and surrounding blue districts. There are roughly 400,000 ballots left, from the projections. I think Biden wins Michigan and Georgia, which renders everything else inconsequential. Biden would have 274 electoral votes at that point, even if he loses control of Arizona. Not that I think he will need it, but Biden's deficit in Pennsylvania is now down to 400,000 with huge Democratic county populations still to go (Chester, Delaware, Montgomery) - I think Biden carries Pennsylvania by 50,000+. Edit : Michigan has 99% of precincts reporting, Biden's advantage is 38,000 votes. Edit 2 : I've been up 26 hours straight, Arizona has 11 electoral votes, so Biden would have 269, not 274. Georgia has roughly 355k votes still out there and Trump has a 78k lead. That means under the best-case-scenario where all 355k come in, Biden will need to win more than 61% of them versus Trump only needing to win 39% to win the state. That is best case for Biden. If only some fraction of those 355k ballots come in, because only a portion of those are currently in-hand now, then the percentage Biden needs goes up. Nevada is going to go to Biden. If Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia all go to Trump, then it will all come down to Pennsylvania. Whomever wins Pennsylvania wins the election, and that could all come down to the Supreme Court because Chief Justice John Roberts thought the Supreme Court was too busy to hear arguments on Pennsylvania's ballot issue before the vote. Zona going blue. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 4, 2020 14:23:00 GMT -8
Georgia has roughly 355k votes still out there and Trump has a 78k lead. That means under the best-case-scenario where all 355k come in, Biden will need to win more than 61% of them versus Trump only needing to win 39% to win the state. That is best case for Biden. If only some fraction of those 355k ballots come in, because only a portion of those are currently in-hand now, then the percentage Biden needs goes up. Nevada is going to go to Biden. If Arizona, North Carolina, and Georgia all go to Trump, then it will all come down to Pennsylvania. Whomever wins Pennsylvania wins the election, and that could all come down to the Supreme Court because Chief Justice John Roberts thought the Supreme Court was too busy to hear arguments on Pennsylvania's ballot issue before the vote. Zona going blue. Probably. We'll have a better idea at 6PM when Arizona provides their next update. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 14:26:41 GMT -8
Georgia said earlier they hope to finish counting votes tonight.
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 4, 2020 14:44:52 GMT -8
It looks like Biden is our next President. I will support him all the way, unless based on his actions, I can't anymore. That's how I roll.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 14:45:27 GMT -8
Biden is crushing Clinton's numbers in a dozen Pennsylvania counties. He'll gain more ground. Several counties have 50,000+ votes still to be tabulated.
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 4, 2020 14:50:45 GMT -8
It looks like Biden is our next President. I will support him all the way, unless based on his actions, I can't anymore. That's how I roll. You're a good dude John. Hopefully we can shoot some unguarded 3's some day! |
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Post by azson on Nov 4, 2020 15:08:53 GMT -8
It's already been wrecked, unfortunately. The damage has to be mitigated. Unless you have unity on both sides of Congress, whoever the president is is really inconsequential. It's gridlock, partisan division across mostly everything of importance Six more years of Mitch McConnell and the stonewalling of legislation - COVID relief? Healthcare? Perhaps you think that all official actions taken by President Trump are so abominable that all must be overturned lest America disintegrate. I'm sure plenty of those actions can be disputed. But all of them? Even the worst President (and I know that you consider DJT to be the worst) does some things right. Here is a list of some of Trump's important actions. I am eager to learn what you think a President Biden should do with respect to those actions. 1. The move of our embassy to Jerusalem. Do you want a President Biden to move the embassy back to Tel Aviv? 2. The recent peace deals between the UAE and Israel and a similar one between Israel and Bahrain. Should we urge the UAE and Bahrain to renege on those agreements? 3. Trump criticized China for its Hong Kong policy and signed the Hong Kong Human Rights and Democracy Act. Perhaps we should cancel that act and urge the Hong Kong residents to shut up and get with the program. 4. Iran is the leading sponsor of terrorism in the world. Trump has put greater pressure on Iran. Should we remove all sanctions on Iran and say we are sorry? 5. President Trump created the National Council for the American Worker, whose goal is to develop a National strategy for training and retraining workers needed across high-demand industries. Should we cancel that program and let workers fend for themselves? 6. Operation Lightspeed, which appears close to resulting in one or more Covid-19 vaccine. Should we tell the companies involved, Forget about it!My hope is that you will address each and every one of these points. Explain why you think why each should be accepted or opposed. AzWm By the way, your buddy Jo Jo may ending up costing Trump in NV, as of right now Biden's lead is ~10K, which is right around how many votes Jo Jo has. |
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Post by johneaztec on Nov 4, 2020 15:17:22 GMT -8
It looks like Biden is our next President. I will support him all the way, unless based on his actions, I can't anymore. That's how I roll. You're a good dude John. Hopefully we can shoot some unguarded 3's some day! Let's do it!!! Thanks, I'm an American first, and I've ALWAYS backed our President's until they gave me a reason not to. I try to be fair, and always give people a chance. He needs a shot at it without the outside noise. We'll see how it goes. We're all passionate about what we believe in and sometimes it can get ugly, but we're all Americans in the end, and most of us wants what's best for our country. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 4, 2020 15:36:11 GMT -8
Biden's crushing the mail-in ballots in Pennsylvania. 70%+. He projects to carry Pennsylvania by 2 full points.
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Post by azson on Nov 4, 2020 16:30:39 GMT -8
Tweet of the day: 'From the guy who brought you "the reason there are so many cases is because we are doing too many tests" comes the new hit single "I'm only losing because they're counting all the votes against me."
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