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Post by johneaztec on Dec 1, 2020 18:55:04 GMT -8
Wayne County results in 2016 : Clinton/Kaine : 234,871 Trump/Pence : 7,682 From the Wayne County official site. Nothing out of the ordinary that didn't happen in the previous election. Wayne County is heavily Democratic, consistently. Your problem is with the optics, which at first glance, would probably be worrisome. But not here - It's simple ballot dumps from heavily Democratic counties that were expected. Conflating the idea that Trump did better with Asians and Latino voters with this doesn't compute. Results: 1,170 of 1,171 precincts reporting Presidential race (Wayne County results only) Trump/Pence (Rep.) - 228,313; 29.29 percent Clinton/Kaine (Dem.) - 517,022; 66.33 percent What are you talking about? The info I have on Wayne County in 2016 is much different. Your link? I'm seeing what you're seeing after I looked it up. |
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Post by aardvark on Dec 1, 2020 19:25:29 GMT -8
Don't know if this has been talked about, but there's a truck driver saying that he brought in THOUSANDS of votes from New York and was told to take it to Pennsylvania. That's odd. My aunt could be my uncle, too. Now that WOULD be a bombshell. |
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Post by aardvark on Dec 1, 2020 19:34:10 GMT -8
While I don't like the Presidential election results, Barr's statement pretty much says it's time to move on. It may well be too late to do anything now for Trump. Judges not wanting to become a nationwide headline have the plaintiffs coming and going -i.e. shoulda complained before the vote, shoulda had more evidence (as opposed to just eye witnesses) of suspicious or unlawful activities, shoulda caught them in the act rather than just detect the anomalies using traditional voting fraud statistical analysis afterwards, shoulda evidenced "systemic" voting fraud rather than just detail a hoard of individual violations etc., etc. But I want Trump and the GOP to work these voting frauds and violations to ground for the sake of the next election. Expose the crap to the state legislatures. If a group of motivated Democrat volunteers can pull off these miraculous numbers in battleground states (read that - one party machine cities), that successful game plan will be copied everywhere a close race exists. We will see a general refusal to (or an ultra slow roll on) scrubbing the voter rolls, permanent mandates for Barf-out ballots, more harvesting of ballots allowed by party operatives, ridiculously early voting, bribes/lotteries for turning in ballots OKed, eased absentee ballot signature detections, ballots allowed to be received/tallied days after the election, elimination/weakening of voter ID requirements, leftist oligarchs paying for polling station operatives everywhere, etc. With no changes (and adding a dash of unconstitutional amnesty), we will soon have one party rule just when Independents now outnumber the GOP or the Democrats separately. Trump is within his rights to contest election results, but for all of the evidence he and his associates (or former associates) claim to have, they aren't having very much success. If they really do have evidence of fraud, or misconduct, or anything else that they feel may reverse the election results, they might want to consider presenting it fairly soon. Just about everything else they have presented hasn't done well in the courts. Even Republican appointed judges don't see what the President's associates claim to see. Honestly--it's not a good look. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 1, 2020 21:06:24 GMT -8
Wayne County results in 2016 : Clinton/Kaine : 234,871 Trump/Pence : 7,682 From the Wayne County official site. Nothing out of the ordinary that didn't happen in the previous election. Wayne County is heavily Democratic, consistently. Your problem is with the optics, which at first glance, would probably be worrisome. But not here - It's simple ballot dumps from heavily Democratic counties that were expected. Conflating the idea that Trump did better with Asians and Latino voters with this doesn't compute. Results: 1,170 of 1,171 precincts reporting Presidential race (Wayne County results only) Trump/Pence (Rep.) - 228,313; 29.29 percent Clinton/Kaine (Dem.) - 517,022; 66.33 percent What are you talking about? The info I have on Wayne County in 2016 is much different. Your link? Brainfart on my end - That's Detroit, not Wayne County. Sorry. detroitmi.gov/document/november-8-2016-official-general-election-results |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 1, 2020 21:08:13 GMT -8
My aunt could be my uncle, too. Now that WOULD be a bombshell. You're telling me. My whole life would be a lie. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 1, 2020 21:10:47 GMT -8
It may well be too late to do anything now for Trump. Judges not wanting to become a nationwide headline have the plaintiffs coming and going -i.e. shoulda complained before the vote, shoulda had more evidence (as opposed to just eye witnesses) of suspicious or unlawful activities, shoulda caught them in the act rather than just detect the anomalies using traditional voting fraud statistical analysis afterwards, shoulda evidenced "systemic" voting fraud rather than just detail a hoard of individual violations etc., etc. But I want Trump and the GOP to work these voting frauds and violations to ground for the sake of the next election. Expose the crap to the state legislatures. If a group of motivated Democrat volunteers can pull off these miraculous numbers in battleground states (read that - one party machine cities), that successful game plan will be copied everywhere a close race exists. We will see a general refusal to (or an ultra slow roll on) scrubbing the voter rolls, permanent mandates for Barf-out ballots, more harvesting of ballots allowed by party operatives, ridiculously early voting, bribes/lotteries for turning in ballots OKed, eased absentee ballot signature detections, ballots allowed to be received/tallied days after the election, elimination/weakening of voter ID requirements, leftist oligarchs paying for polling station operatives everywhere, etc. With no changes (and adding a dash of unconstitutional amnesty), we will soon have one party rule just when Independents now outnumber the GOP or the Democrats separately. Trump is within his rights to contest election results, but for all of the evidence he and his associates (or former associates) claim to have, they aren't having very much success. If they really do have evidence of fraud, or misconduct, or anything else that they feel may reverse the election results, they might want to consider presenting it fairly soon. Just about everything else they have presented hasn't done well in the courts. Even Republican appointed judges don't see what the President's associates claim to see. Honestly--it's not a good look. It's a terrible look when you consider what is happening behind the scenes. Poll workers and officials being the target of death threats, rape threats, lynchings and other disgusting behavior. The entire movement is "do as I say not as I do" - Just like the latest lawsuit in Wisconsin. Trump wants 221,000 ballots tossed, including his top lawyer's ballot, which was apparently good enough for him, but not anyone else? Similar to what Trump did, by committing mail ballot fraud, then protesting mail ballots. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 2, 2020 9:14:05 GMT -8
Funny you should mention the House races. Never before has a party swept the House and lost the Presidency. This was the first time ever. All for the least charismatic candidate in recent memory. Like I’ve stated, it’s up to our judicial system, not Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow. The Trump team has sworn affidavits from hundreds of poll workers, election officials and Dominion associates and in spite of what the media says, a strong legal case. This needs to be done, for both sides. Still waiting on that red wave you promised us - maybe by Christmas? It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 2, 2020 10:32:53 GMT -8
Still waiting on that red wave you promised us - maybe by Christmas? It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. A) It's not, unfortunately. But maybe more importantly...B) It kinda reflects poorly on an individual who is okay with blatant rigging of the Supreme Court to overturn an election where the results have been certified in almost every battleground state. Amy Coney Barrett was installed for 2 reasons : To overturn the ACA and to help Trump secure a conservative majority to overthrow the results of a fair and secure election. Since the Supreme Court is an appellate court, with the inability to present new evidence....Good luck with that. Not sure the Supreme Court wants to intervene in an election where there's been no evidence presented of wrongdoing. Installing Trump as pseudo-dictator would have serious, long-lasting consequences. |
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Post by azson on Dec 2, 2020 13:28:19 GMT -8
Still waiting on that red wave you promised us - maybe by Christmas? It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. What part of 306-232 electoral/and almost 7M+ more general votes don't you get? It's almost as if you were a member of a cult... |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 2, 2020 13:40:29 GMT -8
It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. A) It's not, unfortunately. But maybe more importantly...B) It kinda reflects poorly on an individual who is okay with blatant rigging of the Supreme Court to overturn an election where the results have been certified in almost every battleground state. Amy Coney Barrett was installed for 2 reasons : To overturn the ACA and to help Trump secure a conservative majority to overthrow the results of a fair and secure election. Since the Supreme Court is an appellate court, with the inability to present new evidence....Good luck with that. Not sure the Supreme Court wants to intervene in an election where there's been no evidence presented of wrongdoing. Installing Trump as pseudo-dictator would have serious, long-lasting consequences. SMH If the shoe were on the other foot and the Democrats had the same window and circumstance for seating a SCOTUS Justice, they would do the exact same thing. But of course, True Believers would say they HAD to do it for the sake of the children and the puppies, not their party's and its constituent's best political interests  If Trump loses after his best efforts, he walks. Any other fears to the contrary is pure TDS. The only people usurping power, as if there had been a Reichstag Fire, are Democrats and their overreach during the Corona Virus pandemic. Cuomo and other Dem Govs sentence their state's elderly to death and they get awards for their actions. For the sake of the Teachers Unions (and the free money earned while twiddling their thumbs in a zoom meeting that later magically turns into campaign contributions), the negative effects on the children of this age are going to last them their lifetime. For the sake of Democrat mega donors, their businesses are doing better then ever while small businesses are being sacrificed on the altar of hypocrisy. You are more likely to get Covid going into a Government building than a restaurant that has taken standard precautions. You can get an abortion but not a work out or a haircut. Go figure. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 2, 2020 14:47:30 GMT -8
A) It's not, unfortunately. But maybe more importantly...B) It kinda reflects poorly on an individual who is okay with blatant rigging of the Supreme Court to overturn an election where the results have been certified in almost every battleground state. Amy Coney Barrett was installed for 2 reasons : To overturn the ACA and to help Trump secure a conservative majority to overthrow the results of a fair and secure election. Since the Supreme Court is an appellate court, with the inability to present new evidence....Good luck with that. Not sure the Supreme Court wants to intervene in an election where there's been no evidence presented of wrongdoing. Installing Trump as pseudo-dictator would have serious, long-lasting consequences. SMH If the shoe were on the other foot and the Democrats had the same window and circumstance for seating a SCOTUS Justice, they would do the exact same thing. But of course, True Believers would say they HAD to do it for the sake of the children and the puppies, not their party's and its constituent's best political interests If Trump loses after his best efforts, he walks. Any other fears to the contrary is pure TDS. The only people usurping power, as if there had been a Reichstag Fire, are Democrats and their overreach during the Corona Virus pandemic. Cuomo and other Dem Govs sentence their state's elderly to death and they get awards for their actions. For the sake of the Teachers Unions (and the free money earned while twiddling their thumbs in a zoom meeting that later magically turns into campaign contributions), the negative effects on the children of this age are going to last them their lifetime. For the sake of Democrat mega donors, their businesses are doing better then ever while small businesses are being sacrificed on the altar of hypocrisy. You are more likely to get Covid going into a Government building than a restaurant that has taken standard precautions. You can get an abortion but not a work out or a haircut. Go figure. You can argue fictitous hypotheticals, theories and mindless conjecture. The fact is no Supreme Court nomination has ever been confirmed in the fall of an election year, period. The rest of your post is just more blind nonsense. Access to healthcare is not the same as getting a haircut or going to a gym. I cannot believe I had to type that to another human being. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 2, 2020 15:28:37 GMT -8
SMH If the shoe were on the other foot and the Democrats had the same window and circumstance for seating a SCOTUS Justice, they would do the exact same thing. But of course, True Believers would say they HAD to do it for the sake of the children and the puppies, not their party's and its constituent's best political interests If Trump loses after his best efforts, he walks. Any other fears to the contrary is pure TDS. The only people usurping power, as if there had been a Reichstag Fire, are Democrats and their overreach during the Corona Virus pandemic. Cuomo and other Dem Govs sentence their state's elderly to death and they get awards for their actions. For the sake of the Teachers Unions (and the free money earned while twiddling their thumbs in a zoom meeting that later magically turns into campaign contributions), the negative effects on the children of this age are going to last them their lifetime. For the sake of Democrat mega donors, their businesses are doing better then ever while small businesses are being sacrificed on the altar of hypocrisy. You are more likely to get Covid going into a Government building than a restaurant that has taken standard precautions. You can get an abortion but not a work out or a haircut. Go figure. You can argue fictitous hypotheticals, theories and mindless conjecture. The fact is no Supreme Court nomination has ever been confirmed in the fall of an election year, period. The rest of your post is just more blind nonsense. Access to healthcare is not the same as getting a haircut or going to a gym. I cannot believe I had to type that to another human being. Fictitious hypotheticals indeed |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 2, 2020 15:34:03 GMT -8
You can argue fictitous hypotheticals, theories and mindless conjecture. The fact is no Supreme Court nomination has ever been confirmed in the fall of an election year, period. The rest of your post is just more blind nonsense. Access to healthcare is not the same as getting a haircut or going to a gym. I cannot believe I had to type that to another human being. Fictitious hypotheticals indeed It's only happened once...and it was definitely not the Democrats who did it. Therefore, yes, hypothetical opinion. You're entitled, just not to your own facts. Hypocrisy exists on both sides of the aisle, these are politicans after all. Kim Reynolds in Iowa is just as problematic as Gavin Newsom in California. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 2, 2020 15:38:48 GMT -8
Fictitious hypotheticals indeed It's only happened once...and it was definitely not the Democrats who did it. Therefore, yes, hypothetical opinion. You're entitled, just not to your own facts. Hypocrisy exists on both sides of the aisle, these are politicans after all. Kim Reynolds in Iowa is just as problematic as Gavin Newsom in California. You don't know Democrats like I do it seems. And as far as the ACA goes, increasing coverage for about 6% (while still leaving 10% uncovered) and crapping on the insurance for almost everyone else is one way for insurance coverage, but not the only way. The claim that it is the "ACA or nothing" is a fictitious hypothetical as well. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 2, 2020 17:19:55 GMT -8
It's only happened once...and it was definitely not the Democrats who did it. Therefore, yes, hypothetical opinion. You're entitled, just not to your own facts. Hypocrisy exists on both sides of the aisle, these are politicans after all. Kim Reynolds in Iowa is just as problematic as Gavin Newsom in California. You don't know Democrats like I do it seems. And as far as the ACA goes, increasing coverage for about 6% (while still leaving 10% uncovered) and crapping on the insurance for almost everyone else is one way for insurance coverage, but not the only way. The claim that it is the "ACA or nothing" is a fictitious hypothetical as well. It's not, though. Because no replacement plan has been created, despite Donald Trump's 732 claims of "two weeks" from now. It's another "Mexico will pay for the wall" statement (read : lie) that he's never been able to put anything into action. 92% of people for part or all of 2019 had health insurance. The reality is no plan will be foolproof or perfect, it's how the healthcare industry and insurance companies roll. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Dec 2, 2020 18:57:23 GMT -8
It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. What part of 306-232 electoral/and almost 7M+ more general votes don't you get? It's almost as if you were a member of a cult... Obviously you’re happy with the way things went down for Biden and like most Dem supporters you have a see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil perspective. Why recognize the preponderance of irregularities when it is going to blow your buzz. There are hundreds of Americans who witnessed irregularities and ballot dumps, and they signed affidavits under penalty of perjury attesting to the malfeasance. It’s the first time in US history a political party has had the audacity to try something like this. They have the media on their side, so the Dems might just get away with it. Just remember, if Biden gets in The White House, he is the most incompetent politician ever to become POTUS. It will be a matter of a few months before he $#it’s the bed and reminds everyone what an untalented incompetent boob he truly is, even the whores in the media won’t be able to cover for him. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 2, 2020 19:42:09 GMT -8
You don't know Democrats like I do it seems. And as far as the ACA goes, increasing coverage for about 6% (while still leaving 10% uncovered) and crapping on the insurance for almost everyone else is one way for insurance coverage, but not the only way. The claim that it is the "ACA or nothing" is a fictitious hypothetical as well. It's not, though. Because no replacement plan has been created, despite Donald Trump's 732 claims of "two weeks" from now. It's another "Mexico will pay for the wall" statement (read : lie) that he's never been able to put anything into action. 92% of people for part or all of 2019 had health insurance. The reality is no plan will be foolproof or perfect, it's how the healthcare industry and insurance companies roll. Let's see...Grandfather clauses, 4 year phase ins, etc. Gee, where did I hear that before? Oh the horror of dropping the POS Obama care!! The humanity! Do you think that people with $6,000 deductibles are really doing the follow up they should? The drug treatments they should? Visit specialists they should? Don't you think a younger healthy person who has to pay $700 to $800 a month for every month in the year (and get only one $400 office visit for all that cabbage) would think that the ACA stinks on ice? Remember, Obamacare only works if you don't. And spare me any credibility argument about Trump when we are dealing with his opposition that pushed a fake Russia collusion hoax for over 3 years. |
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 2, 2020 20:48:37 GMT -8
What part of 306-232 electoral/and almost 7M+ more general votes don't you get? It's almost as if you were a member of a cult... Obviously you’re happy with the way things went down for Biden and like most Dem supporters you have a see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil perspective. Why recognize the preponderance of irregularities when it is going to blow your buzz. There are hundreds of Americans who witnessed irregularities and ballot dumps, and they signed affidavits under penalty of perjury attesting to the malfeasance. It’s the first time in US history a political party has had the audacity to try something like this. They have the media on their side, so the Dems might just get away with it. Just remember, if Biden gets in The White House, he is the most incompetent politician ever to become POTUS. It will be a matter of a few months before he $#it’s the bed and reminds everyone what an untalented incompetent boob he truly is, even the whores in the media won’t be able to cover for him. the Cult has spoken. I hope trump doesn't incite violence against innocent Republican officials who are telling the truth about the elections. that would suck...wouldn't it. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 3, 2020 0:10:05 GMT -8
What part of 306-232 electoral/and almost 7M+ more general votes don't you get? It's almost as if you were a member of a cult... Obviously you’re happy with the way things went down for Biden and like most Dem supporters you have a see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil perspective. Why recognize the preponderance of irregularities when it is going to blow your buzz. There are hundreds of Americans who witnessed irregularities and ballot dumps, and they signed affidavits under penalty of perjury attesting to the malfeasance. It’s the first time in US history a political party has had the audacity to try something like this. They have the media on their side, so the Dems might just get away with it. Just remember, if Biden gets in The White House, he is the most incompetent politician ever to become POTUS. It will be a matter of a few months before he $#it’s the bed and reminds everyone what an untalented incompetent boob he truly is, even the whores in the media won’t be able to cover for him. This is...disturbing. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 3, 2020 0:10:59 GMT -8
It's not, though. Because no replacement plan has been created, despite Donald Trump's 732 claims of "two weeks" from now. It's another "Mexico will pay for the wall" statement (read : lie) that he's never been able to put anything into action. 92% of people for part or all of 2019 had health insurance. The reality is no plan will be foolproof or perfect, it's how the healthcare industry and insurance companies roll. Let's see...Grandfather clauses, 4 year phase ins, etc. Gee, where did I hear that before? Oh the horror of dropping the POS Obama care!! The humanity! Do you think that people with $6,000 deductibles are really doing the follow up they should? The drug treatments they should? Visit specialists they should? Don't you think a younger healthy person who has to pay $700 to $800 a month for every month in the year (and get only one $400 office visit for all that cabbage) would think that the ACA stinks on ice? Remember, Obamacare only works if you don't. And spare me any credibility argument about Trump when we are dealing with his opposition that pushed a fake Russia collusion hoax for over 3 years. I just can't take you seriously when you still call it a hoax....when the GOP even said it wasn't. |
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