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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 3, 2020 8:20:39 GMT -8
Let's see...Grandfather clauses, 4 year phase ins, etc. Gee, where did I hear that before? Oh the horror of dropping the POS Obama care!! The humanity! Do you think that people with $6,000 deductibles are really doing the follow up they should? The drug treatments they should? Visit specialists they should? Don't you think a younger healthy person who has to pay $700 to $800 a month for every month in the year (and get only one $400 office visit for all that cabbage) would think that the ACA stinks on ice? Remember, Obamacare only works if you don't. And spare me any credibility argument about Trump when we are dealing with his opposition that pushed a fake Russia collusion hoax for over 3 years. I just can't take you seriously when you still call it a hoax....when the GOP even said it wasn't. To coin a phrase...FALSE www.dailywire.com/news/new-russia-transcripts-appear-to-show-schiff-obama-officials-knew-trump-was-not-colluding-with-russia |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 3, 2020 8:58:06 GMT -8
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Post by azson on Dec 3, 2020 12:37:33 GMT -8
Obviously you’re happy with the way things went down for Biden and like most Dem supporters you have a see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil perspective. Why recognize the preponderance of irregularities when it is going to blow your buzz. There are hundreds of Americans who witnessed irregularities and ballot dumps, and they signed affidavits under penalty of perjury attesting to the malfeasance. It’s the first time in US history a political party has had the audacity to try something like this. They have the media on their side, so the Dems might just get away with it. Just remember, if Biden gets in The White House, he is the most incompetent politician ever to become POTUS. It will be a matter of a few months before he $#it’s the bed and reminds everyone what an untalented incompetent boob he truly is, even the whores in the media won’t be able to cover for him. This is...disturbing. Indeed. I started composing a response and then remembered a recent episode of The Vow, where the mother tries to talk sense to her cult-indoctrinated daughter, to no avail. Why spend the energy when 2+2 doesn't = 4 with these folks? |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 3, 2020 13:48:38 GMT -8
What part of 306-232 electoral/and almost 7M+ more general votes don't you get? It's almost as if you were a member of a cult... Obviously you’re happy with the way things went down for Biden and like most Dem supporters you have a see no evil, speak no evil, hear no evil perspective. Why recognize the preponderance of irregularities when it is going to blow your buzz. There are hundreds of Americans who witnessed irregularities and ballot dumps, and they signed affidavits under penalty of perjury attesting to the malfeasance. It’s the first time in US history a political party has had the audacity to try something like this. They have the media on their side, so the Dems might just get away with it. Just remember, if Biden gets in The White House, he is the most incompetent politician ever to become POTUS. It will be a matter of a few months before he $#it’s the bed and reminds everyone what an untalented incompetent boob he truly is, even the whores in the media won’t be able to cover for him. I could spend days poking holes in these affidavits. Here's one previously mentioned example. Saying "I saw something strange" is not evidence of voter fraud. Think logically (as hard as that seems) and ask yourself - Why aren't these affidavits being presented in court? If they are so damning and so powerful to point to direct fraud, why are they not being presented in the courtroom? Surely hundreds of affidavits that are sworn testimony should be given credence? |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 3, 2020 13:55:09 GMT -8
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 3, 2020 15:55:22 GMT -8
Daily Signal - Right bias. Breitbart - Right-wing trashcan material. Daily Caller - Right. Town Hall - "Questionable source." Politico - Your article is from 2019, I published the final findings from August 2020. Weird how Reuters and the "Daily Signal" have articles from the exact same day and they say the exact opposite thing. I know which source I actually believe. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 5, 2020 13:06:32 GMT -8
Follow the con.
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 8, 2020 13:56:23 GMT -8
Still waiting on that red wave you promised us - maybe by Christmas? It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. Going quite well. Can we concede this thing now and move on? |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 8, 2020 14:16:27 GMT -8
It kind of was. Republicans swept many State House races, gained all 8 contested Congress seats. Only the fraudulent presidential result kept the Dems in the game.....and it’s going to the Trump appointed Supremes, we shall see what happens from there. Going quite well. Can we concede this thing now and move on? Having voting fraud at all levels and in all places is not where we should be as a nation. Simply saying, in essence, "You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, so lets move on" is what I would expect from True Believers and from those that accept the corruption for the sake of the desired end. How bout we stop the dead people from voting? It can be done. Why isn't it done? We all know why. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 8, 2020 14:34:37 GMT -8
Going quite well. Can we concede this thing now and move on? Having voting fraud at all levels and in all places is not where we should be as a nation. Simply saying, in essence, "You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, so lets move on" is what I would expect from True Believers and from those that accept the corruption for the sake of the desired end. How bout we stop the dead people from voting? It can be done. Why isn't it done? We all know why. Having no voting fraud at the presidential level is where we should be as a nation. Simply not saying, in any way, shape or form about toothpaste going back into the tube is what I would expect from rational people who understand that there is no credible evidence of any kind that has been presented. The campaign has now lost nearly 50 legal rulings, many of them in hand-picked courtrooms to try and usurp democracy. The election was not close, the Supreme Court recognized that and we should look to improve voter practices in the future, but this election has been decided by the people, despite the dictatorial tactics of the one-term failure. That entire story has been debunked. Please seek credible outlets like Reuters and other non-biased sources, or you're just living in a vacuum of fake and faulty information. |
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 8, 2020 18:42:29 GMT -8
Going quite well. Can we concede this thing now and move on? Having voting fraud at all levels and in all places is not where we should be as a nation. Simply saying, in essence, "You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, so lets move on" is what I would expect from True Believers and from those that accept the corruption for the sake of the desired end. How bout we stop the dead people from voting? It can be done. Why isn't it done? We all know why. Have you ever heard of "John Baron"? The orange shyster (faking another person) calling into media outlets to get publicity for himself. His long association with WWE? Reality TV? So you are going with a known shyster, not a maybe shyster, but a real shyster. Meanwhile, Republican and Democrat officials are getting death threats. One female official in Michigan was with her children putting up Christmas lights and was accosted by armed trumster whack jobs. I'm sorry, but you people have lost all connection to reality..... but sadly, you are also as easy as candy from a baby. |
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Post by mayham81 on Dec 9, 2020 14:03:46 GMT -8
Trump complained about fraud months before a vote was ever cast. This is all bull$#!+ theater and the fact that a large chunk of the country believes it is shocking and disturbing. They've lost over 50 court cases because there is no there there.
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 9, 2020 14:24:37 GMT -8
thefederalist.com/2020/12/07/no-the-georgia-vote-counting-video-was-not-debunked-not-even-close/Having voting fraud at all levels and in all places is not where we should be as a nation. Simply saying, in essence, "You can't put the toothpaste back in the tube, so lets move on" is what I would expect from True Believers and from those that accept the corruption for the sake of the desired end. How bout we stop the dead people from voting? It can be done. Why isn't it done? We all know why. Having no voting fraud at the presidential level is where we should be as a nation. Simply not saying, in any way, shape or form about toothpaste going back into the tube is what I would expect from rational people who understand that there is no credible evidence of any kind that has been presented. The campaign has now lost nearly 50 legal rulings, many of them in hand-picked courtrooms to try and usurp democracy. The election was not close, the Supreme Court recognized that and we should look to improve voter practices in the future, but this election has been decided by the people, despite the dictatorial tactics of the one-term failure. That entire story has been debunked. Please seek credible outlets like Reuters and other non-biased sources, or you're just living in a vacuum of fake and faulty information. No voting fraud? That is a provably false statement. Just starting with dead voters, it is everywhere and documented. And guess what? That fraud almost exclusively occurs with mail-in or absentee balloting. And Mail-in balloting dominated this year. And if that sort of fraud occurs with mail-in balloting, what magic is there to stop the myriad of other voting frauds associated with mail-in balloting? - like voting in two states or out of state? Like voting while being an illegal alien (easily occurs with the many Motor Voter laws)? Like illegal ballot harvesting? Like offering illegal incentives for turning in ballots (see lottery entries, etc)? Or how about impersonating or taking over the responsibility of a voter (see why signature verification is being reduced in left-leaning jurisdictions)? And how much of a glassy-eyed true-believe do you have to be think NONE, ZIP, NADA of these frauds (including dead voters) occurred in this election? Please note that there is a difference between not be caught and not occuring. And regarding the Federalist article, the so-called Fact Checkers said "Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state, said "Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do. And It was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working." But ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections confirmed the opposite as they all said the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m. How is the claim that they did send the observers away at 10:30 debunked? Someone is lying. Who? Is it the Fact Checkers? Frances Watson? Or the group of ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller? And more importantly..why are they lying? And what is the obsession with sources? You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 9, 2020 15:01:04 GMT -8
Having no voting fraud at the presidential level is where we should be as a nation. Simply not saying, in any way, shape or form about toothpaste going back into the tube is what I would expect from rational people who understand that there is no credible evidence of any kind that has been presented. The campaign has now lost nearly 50 legal rulings, many of them in hand-picked courtrooms to try and usurp democracy. The election was not close, the Supreme Court recognized that and we should look to improve voter practices in the future, but this election has been decided by the people, despite the dictatorial tactics of the one-term failure. That entire story has been debunked. Please seek credible outlets like Reuters and other non-biased sources, or you're just living in a vacuum of fake and faulty information. No voting fraud? That is a provably false statement. Just starting with dead voters, it is everywhere and documented. And guess what? That fraud almost exclusively occurs with mail-in or absentee balloting. And Mail-in balloting dominated this year. And if that sort of fraud occurs with mail-in balloting, what magic is there to stop the myriad of other voting frauds associated with mail-in balloting? - like voting in two states or out of state? Like voting while being an illegal alien (easily occurs with the many Motor Voter laws)? Like illegal ballot harvesting? Like offering illegal incentives for turning in ballots (see lottery entries, etc)? Or how about impersonating or taking over the responsibility of a voter (see why signature verification is being reduced in left-leaning jurisdictions)? And how much of a glassy-eyed true-believe do you have to be think NONE, ZIP, NADA of these frauds (including dead voters) occurred in this election? Please note that there is a difference between not be caught and not occuring. And regarding the Federalist article, the so-called Fact Checkers said "Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state, said "Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do. And It was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working." But ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections confirmed the opposite as they all said the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m. How is the claim that they did send the observers away at 10:30 debunked? Someone is lying. Who? Is it the Fact Checkers? Frances Watson? Or the group of ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller? And more importantly..why are they lying? And what is the obsession with sources? You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes. That last sentence undermines your entire argument in a handful of words. No, you don't have to accept radical, biased and untrue propaganda. Biases matter. Credibility matters. How naive do you have to be to assume these trash sources are telling any kind of truth? I could start a blog and just make stuff up, does that make it real? Does that mean I have to accept it? No. That's absurd. I cannot believe that's a real thought from another human being. Think for yourself - Don't become chained to an illusion that doesn't exist. Irregularities happen in every election. It happened in 2016, so by that measure, there's fraud in every election, even though Trump said there wasn't just 4 years ago. Irregularities don't equal massive amounts of fraud, as there is no legitimate evidence to indicate it's systemic and widespread. Your president isn't even arguing fraud in a majority of these nonsensical lawsuits. He knows, you should as well. Nobody's lying in Georgia, either. Video evidence shows nothing improper, verified by a Republican Secretary of State and another GOP member. You're just regurgitating propaganda from these right-wing nutjobs who have zero credibility and no insight. Trump lost. We're done. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2020 19:25:34 GMT -8
Having no voting fraud at the presidential level is where we should be as a nation. Simply not saying, in any way, shape or form about toothpaste going back into the tube is what I would expect from rational people who understand that there is no credible evidence of any kind that has been presented. The campaign has now lost nearly 50 legal rulings, many of them in hand-picked courtrooms to try and usurp democracy. The election was not close, the Supreme Court recognized that and we should look to improve voter practices in the future, but this election has been decided by the people, despite the dictatorial tactics of the one-term failure. That entire story has been debunked. Please seek credible outlets like Reuters and other non-biased sources, or you're just living in a vacuum of fake and faulty information. No voting fraud? That is a provably false statement. Just starting with dead voters, it is everywhere and documented. And guess what? That fraud almost exclusively occurs with mail-in or absentee balloting. And Mail-in balloting dominated this year. And if that sort of fraud occurs with mail-in balloting, what magic is there to stop the myriad of other voting frauds associated with mail-in balloting? - like voting in two states or out of state? Like voting while being an illegal alien (easily occurs with the many Motor Voter laws)? Like illegal ballot harvesting? Like offering illegal incentives for turning in ballots (see lottery entries, etc)? Or how about impersonating or taking over the responsibility of a voter (see why signature verification is being reduced in left-leaning jurisdictions)? And how much of a glassy-eyed true-believe do you have to be think NONE, ZIP, NADA of these frauds (including dead voters) occurred in this election? Please note that there is a difference between not be caught and not occuring. And regarding the Federalist article, the so-called Fact Checkers said "Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state, said "Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do. And It was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working." But ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections confirmed the opposite as they all said the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m. How is the claim that they did send the observers away at 10:30 debunked? Someone is lying. Who? Is it the Fact Checkers? Frances Watson? Or the group of ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller? And more importantly..why are they lying? And what is the obsession with sources? You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes. What is the obsession with sources? Think there maybe is some correlation between the source and the veracity of its information? Stop the steal!! Lol. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 10, 2020 9:09:06 GMT -8
No voting fraud? That is a provably false statement. Just starting with dead voters, it is everywhere and documented. And guess what? That fraud almost exclusively occurs with mail-in or absentee balloting. And Mail-in balloting dominated this year. And if that sort of fraud occurs with mail-in balloting, what magic is there to stop the myriad of other voting frauds associated with mail-in balloting? - like voting in two states or out of state? Like voting while being an illegal alien (easily occurs with the many Motor Voter laws)? Like illegal ballot harvesting? Like offering illegal incentives for turning in ballots (see lottery entries, etc)? Or how about impersonating or taking over the responsibility of a voter (see why signature verification is being reduced in left-leaning jurisdictions)? And how much of a glassy-eyed true-believe do you have to be think NONE, ZIP, NADA of these frauds (including dead voters) occurred in this election? Please note that there is a difference between not be caught and not occuring. And regarding the Federalist article, the so-called Fact Checkers said "Frances Watson, chief investigator for the Georgia secretary of state, said "Nobody told them to stay. Nobody told them to leave. Nobody gave them any advice on what they should do. And It was still open for them or the public to come back in to view at whatever time they wanted to, as long as they were still working." But ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller, the Fulton County public affairs manager for elections confirmed the opposite as they all said the election department sent the State Farm Arena absentee ballot counters home at 10:30 p.m. How is the claim that they did send the observers away at 10:30 debunked? Someone is lying. Who? Is it the Fact Checkers? Frances Watson? Or the group of ABC News, the GOP Volunteers and Regina Waller? And more importantly..why are they lying? And what is the obsession with sources? You must accept the truth from whatever source it comes. What is the obsession with sources? Think there maybe is some correlation between the source and the veracity of its information? Stop the steal!! Lol. So I gather we are only supposed to believe news from the sources that suppressed and falsely labeled the true reporting of Hunter Biden's E-Mails showing a 10% share from China's CEFC for the sitting VP "Big Guy" and discount news from those sources that rightly aired that truth. Is that about it? If so, the short bus to the kool-aid stand must be nearly full. Fact checking indeed! |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 10, 2020 9:17:15 GMT -8
What is the obsession with sources? Think there maybe is some correlation between the source and the veracity of its information? Stop the steal!! Lol. So I gather we are only supposed to believe news from the sources that suppressed and falsely labeled the true reporting of Hunter Biden's E-Mails showing a 10% share from China's CEFC for the sitting VP "Big Guy" and discount news from those sources that rightly aired that truth. Is that about it? If so, the short bus to the kool-aid stand must be nearly full. Fact checking indeed! We're supposed to believe accurate information from credible sources that have a history of factual reporting without confirmed biases, numerous issues with false reports and without trigger words that constitute mixed messaging. Strive for neutrality. There's no proof on Hunter Biden, but there is a ton of proof with the president and his children. That's why they are discussing preemptive pardons. |
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Post by aztecryan on Dec 10, 2020 9:25:40 GMT -8
What is the obsession with sources? Think there maybe is some correlation between the source and the veracity of its information? Stop the steal!! Lol. So I gather we are only supposed to believe news from the sources that suppressed and falsely labeled the true reporting of Hunter Biden's E-Mails showing a 10% share from China's CEFC for the sitting VP "Big Guy" and discount news from those sources that rightly aired that truth. Is that about it? If so, the short bus to the kool-aid stand must be nearly full. Fact checking indeed! A long, long list of unbiased, down the middle type sources that don't reach propaganda levels like OAN, Breitbart, Gateway Pundit, Washington Examiner and so on. It's not difficult to find if you actually want to look for it. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Dec 10, 2020 12:02:20 GMT -8
So I gather we are only supposed to believe news from the sources that suppressed and falsely labeled the true reporting of Hunter Biden's E-Mails showing a 10% share from China's CEFC for the sitting VP "Big Guy" and discount news from those sources that rightly aired that truth. Is that about it? If so, the short bus to the kool-aid stand must be nearly full. Fact checking indeed! We're supposed to believe accurate information from credible sources that have a history of factual reporting without confirmed biases, numerous issues with false reports and without trigger words that constitute mixed messaging. Strive for neutrality. There's no proof on Hunter Biden, but there is a ton of proof with the president and his children. That's why they are discussing preemptive pardons. Well, when accurate information is censored, suppressed and ignored, what the hell does the history of a news outlet that once employed Walter Cronkite, for example, have to do with it? Bias is bias regardless of how recent it is seen. And it was never about Hunter. He is doing what thousands and thousands of lobbyists do. There is evidence (aka proof), however, that Joe Biden sold his office. It may be legal for Hunter to receive money for nothing (other than the hope for/expectation of access to Biden by the payer) and it may be hard to show that Big Guy Biden committed a crime if the money received by Hunter (and the other Biden relatives) are only "informally" ear-marked for dad for some time in the future and not given to dad contemporaneously when they received the money. And given that the DoJ and FBI are full of Democrat and/or establishment Government lifers, don't expect anything other than what we saw with Comey and the Hillary related investigations. They will be breaking their arms trying to give a pass (~immunity given to lower level accomplices without requiring testimony implicating the Bidens, allowing the destruction of evidence without penalty, erring on the side of leniency with decisions to not prosecute, etc., etc). But the voter has to wonder if the money from the Moscow Mayor's wife, for example, was, in some form, a payback for the U.S.'s reluctance to offer weapons of war to the Ukranians as Russia rolled through the Crimea? Was the sweetheart deals for Hunter from China a consideration to Biden for allowing China to continue seal club the U.S. relative to trade? Of course, the $130 Million donation from a rich guy in Canada to the Clinton Foundation was just basic philanthropy and his desire to be a do-gooder, not a convoluted bribe/pay-back for the Uranium one deal  . |
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Post by uwphoto on Dec 10, 2020 13:11:16 GMT -8
We're supposed to believe accurate information from credible sources that have a history of factual reporting without confirmed biases, numerous issues with false reports and without trigger words that constitute mixed messaging. Strive for neutrality. There's no proof on Hunter Biden, but there is a ton of proof with the president and his children. That's why they are discussing preemptive pardons. Well, when accurate information is censored, suppressed and ignored, what the hell does the history of a news outlet that once employed Walter Cronkite, for example, have to do with it? Bias is bias regardless of how recent it is seen. And it was never about Hunter. He is doing what thousands and thousands of lobbyists do. There is evidence (aka proof), however, that Joe Biden sold his office. It may be legal for Hunter to receive money for nothing (other than the hope for/expectation of access to Biden by the payer) and it may be hard to show that Big Guy Biden committed a crime if the money received by Hunter (and the other Biden relatives) are only "informally" ear-marked for dad for some time in the future and not given to dad contemporaneously when they received the money. And given that the DoJ and FBI are full of Democrat and/or establishment Government lifers, don't expect anything other than what we saw with Comey and the Hillary related investigations. They will be breaking their arms trying to give a pass (~immunity given to lower level accomplices without requiring testimony implicating the Bidens, allowing the destruction of evidence without penalty, erring on the side of leniency with decisions to not prosecute, etc., etc). But the voter has to wonder if the money from the Moscow Mayor's wife, for example, was, in some form, a payback for the U.S.'s reluctance to offer weapons of war to the Ukranians as Russia rolled through the Crimea? Was the sweetheart deals for Hunter from China a consideration to Biden for allowing China to continue seal club the U.S. relative to trade? Of course, the $130 Million donation from a rich guy in Canada to the Clinton Foundation was just basic philanthropy and his desire to be a do-gooder, not a convoluted bribe/pay-back for the Uranium one deal . When Americans start killing Americans cause of orange cancer's insane hold over crazy fringe nut cases....will you finally admit "orange man bad"?. |
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