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Post by aztecryan on Nov 21, 2020 20:22:34 GMT -8
Actually they do know what they are doing. Take everything the press says with a dose of skepticism. An outgoing (retiring) GOP Senator doesn't seem to carry the same perspective. And neither does the judge who dismissed their case in Pennsylvania with prejudice. An absolute farce. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 22, 2020 0:59:04 GMT -8
"All of the Beachboys"?? joke. Isn't Brian Wilson a beach boy? how bout Al Jardine? Just cause one "beachboy" re: Mike Love..used the name and played for DT Jr. event does not make "all". Neither Brian Wilson or Al Jardine are part of the Beach Boys currently, but they were when they played at a benefit for Ronald Reagan where humorously Brian Wilson was arrested for not having the proper credentials. www.nytimes.com/1984/08/21/us/campaign-notes-arrest-of-beach-boy-attributed-to-mix-up.html Brian Wilson is the bearded guy on Reagan's right shoulder facing toward the camera. Brian Wilson and Al Jardine told their fans not too buy anymore BB while Mike Love pulled his $#!+. Brian Wilson and Al Jardine told their fans to not buy tickets for The Beach Boys when they played for the Safari Club but that had nothing to do with politics and Wilson was crystal clear that it wasn't Love's politics they opposed. Joe Perry lists one of his 2 favorite presidents as John F. Kennedy. JFK was pro-life, pro-military, and passed a huge tax cut. By today's standards JFK's ideology is extremely conservative. He'd be well to the right of Trump and would want nothing to do with the Bernie/AOC Progressive Democrats of today. Joe Perry is being consistent in his values. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/irastoll/21-ways-jfk-was-actually-a-conservative-fjkq |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 22, 2020 7:18:49 GMT -8
"All of the Beachboys"?? joke. Isn't Brian Wilson a beach boy? how bout Al Jardine? Just cause one "beachboy" re: Mike Love..used the name and played for DT Jr. event does not make "all". Neither Brian Wilson or Al Jardine are part of the Beach Boys currently, but they were when they played at a benefit for Ronald Reagan where humorously Brian Wilson was arrested for not having the proper credentials. www.nytimes.com/1984/08/21/us/campaign-notes-arrest-of-beach-boy-attributed-to-mix-up.htmlBrian Wilson is the bearded guy on Reagan's right shoulder facing toward the camera. Brian Wilson and Al Jardine told their fans not too buy anymore BB while Mike Love pulled his $#!+. Brian Wilson and Al Jardine told their fans to not buy tickets for The Beach Boys when they played for the Safari Club but that had nothing to do with politics and Wilson was crystal clear that it wasn't Love's politics they opposed. Joe Perry lists one of his 2 favorite presidents as John F. Kennedy. JFK was pro-life, pro-military, and passed a huge tax cut. By today's standards JFK's ideology is extremely conservative. He'd be well to the right of Trump and would want nothing to do with the Bernie/AOC Progressive Democrats of today. Joe Perry is being consistent in his values. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/irastoll/21-ways-jfk-was-actually-a-conservative-fjkqand you are comparing JFK to a shyster? joke. JFK would have never celebrated the whack jobs and QAnon like mango Mouselini. Instead he would have called them out...sad part is you know it. Your beachboy notes are comical. ever read what Nancy Reagan had to say about the orange con man? |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 22, 2020 7:26:19 GMT -8
"All of the Beachboys"?? joke. Isn't Brian Wilson a beach boy? how bout Al Jardine? Just cause one "beachboy" re: Mike Love..used the name and played for DT Jr. event does not make "all". Neither Brian Wilson or Al Jardine are part of the Beach Boys currently, but they were when they played at a benefit for Ronald Reagan where humorously Brian Wilson was arrested for not having the proper credentials. www.nytimes.com/1984/08/21/us/campaign-notes-arrest-of-beach-boy-attributed-to-mix-up.htmlBrian Wilson is the bearded guy on Reagan's right shoulder facing toward the camera. Brian Wilson and Al Jardine told their fans not too buy anymore BB while Mike Love pulled his $#!+. Brian Wilson and Al Jardine told their fans to not buy tickets for The Beach Boys when they played for the Safari Club but that had nothing to do with politics and Wilson was crystal clear that it wasn't Love's politics they opposed. Joe Perry lists one of his 2 favorite presidents as John F. Kennedy. JFK was pro-life, pro-military, and passed a huge tax cut. By today's standards JFK's ideology is extremely conservative. He'd be well to the right of Trump and would want nothing to do with the Bernie/AOC Progressive Democrats of today. Joe Perry is being consistent in his values. www.buzzfeednews.com/article/irastoll/21-ways-jfk-was-actually-a-conservative-fjkqMan, you are the spin doctor. You insinuate that Brian Wilson and Jardine only disavowed the trump Jr. event only cause of hunting. They have also disavowed straight trump pklitical events played by the fake beach Boys. nice try...but fail. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 22, 2020 10:20:26 GMT -8
You insinuate that Brian Wilson and Jardine only disavowed the trump Jr. event only cause of hunting. They have also disavowed straight trump pklitical events played by the fake beach Boys. nice try...but fail. No. Brian Wilson told fans not to buy Beach Boys tickets for the Safari Club gig because he opposes trophy hunting. The Safari Club gig is different from the recent event in Orange County. For the Orange County event Brian Wilson did not tell fans to boycott the event. For the Orange County event Brian Wilson only said that he knew nothing about it and the reporter who asked him labeled his lack of knowledge and involvement as "disavowing". The only person spinning this is the reporter who wrote the "disavowing" piece. Sadly the reporter seems to have successfully confused you into thinking the boycotted gig and the so-called 'disavowed' gig were a single show. They were not. The Beach Boys, including Brian Wilson, are conservatives whether you like it or not. Brian Wilson just doesn't like to mix politics with music and stays as publicly non-political as he can outside of the rare environmental cause. Honestly I'm not sure why this matters so much to you. Who cares what former-Beach Boys member Brian Wilson's politics are? and you are comparing JFK to a shyster? joke. Uhhhhhh....what?!? What I am saying is the politics in America has drifted leftward over the decades. It is completely reasonable for a modern Conservative to look at the policies of JFK and find a lot to like. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 22, 2020 10:45:03 GMT -8
You insinuate that Brian Wilson and Jardine only disavowed the trump Jr. event only cause of hunting. They have also disavowed straight trump pklitical events played by the fake beach Boys. nice try...but fail. No. Brian Wilson told fans not to buy Beach Boys tickets for the Safari Club gig because he opposes trophy hunting. The Safari Club gig is different from the recent event in Orange County. For the Orange County event Brian Wilson did not tell fans to boycott the event. For the Orange County event Brian Wilson only said that he knew nothing about it and the reporter who asked him labeled his lack of knowledge and involvement as "disavowing". The only person spinning this is the reporter who wrote the "disavowing" piece. Sadly the reporter seems to have successfully confused you into thinking the boycotted gig and the so-called 'disavowed' gig were a single show. They were not. The Beach Boys, including Brian Wilson, are conservatives whether you like it or not. Brian Wilson just doesn't like to mix politics with music and stays as publicly non-political as he can outside of the rare environmental cause. Honestly I'm not sure why this matters so much to you. Who cares what former-Beach Boys member Brian Wilson's politics are? and you are comparing JFK to a shyster? joke. Uhhhhhh....what?!? What I am saying is the politics in America has drifted leftward over the decades. It is completely reasonable for a modern Conservative to look at the policies of JFK and find a lot to like. I dont care..you said "all the beachboys"..lie. My college roommate plays music with Jardine in Big Sur..he's anti trump from the horses mouth. Brian Wilson hates trump...conservative and hates trump are exclusive from each other. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 22, 2020 11:34:30 GMT -8
Gullible. Two weeks? Why two weeks? They haven't been able to prove any case yet in court, if you follow the process. They can't even file in the right state half the time. Jenna Ellis is a fake blowhard, Rudy's corruption speaks for itself and the entire foundation of their argument is a sham. This is a stall tactic to avoid prosecution, plain and simple. Trump and his legal team are gathering evidence. They are keeping their cards close to the vest and won’t tip what they have to the Dems OR The Press until they have a strong winnable case. Sidney Powell is the very best btw, an absolutely relentless lawyer. She will be ready in 1 or 2 weeks with a case. Trump feels he was screwed and won’t stop until the courts tell him it’s over. What happens after that is anyone’s guess. We could see HUGE riots and a violent federal response this time depending how the courts rule on the ballots and the Dominion software tampering. I’m not looking forward to the next few weeks. The future direction of our nation will be decided. Chris Christie calling trumps lawyers a "national embarrassment" today. |
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Nov 22, 2020 11:58:07 GMT -8
I dont care..you said "all the beachboys"..lie. My college roommate plays music with Jardine in Big Sur..he's anti trump from the horses mouth. Brian Wilson hates trump...conservative and hates trump are exclusive from each other. I said they were conservative. I didn't say they supported Trump. As you mentioned earlier, Nancy Reagan doesn't like Trump. Bush Senior didn't like Trump and Bush Junior doesn't like Trump. Jeb doesn't like Trump. John McCain didn't like Trump. Mitt Romney doesn't like Trump. There are many examples of conservatives who don't like Trump. There are also many conservatives who do back Trump, and many others who only sometimes back Trump. Conservatism is a big tent, bigger than Trumpism. Honestly I have no idea what Jardine's politics are. I only knew of Brian Wilson's fondness for Ronald Reagan because Reagan pulled strings with the Coast Guard for Dennis Wilson's funeral. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 22, 2020 12:15:14 GMT -8
I dont care..you said "all the beachboys"..lie. My college roommate plays music with Jardine in Big Sur..he's anti trump from the horses mouth. Brian Wilson hates trump...conservative and hates trump are exclusive from each other. I said they were conservative. I didn't say they supported Trump. As you mentioned earlier, Nancy Reagan doesn't like Trump. Bush Senior didn't like Trump and Bush Junior doesn't like Trump. Jeb doesn't like Trump. John McCain didn't like Trump. Mitt Romney doesn't like Trump. There are many examples of conservatives who don't like Trump. There are also many conservatives who do back Trump, and many others who only sometimes back Trump. Conservatism is a big tent, bigger than Trumpism. Honestly I have no idea what Jardine's politics are. I only knew of Brian Wilson's fondness for Ronald Reagan because Reagan pulled strings with the Coast Guard for Dennis Wilson's funeral. Closer to the truth. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 22, 2020 14:37:40 GMT -8
Gullible. Two weeks? Why two weeks? They haven't been able to prove any case yet in court, if you follow the process. They can't even file in the right state half the time. Jenna Ellis is a fake blowhard, Rudy's corruption speaks for itself and the entire foundation of their argument is a sham. This is a stall tactic to avoid prosecution, plain and simple. Trump and his legal team are gathering evidence. They are keeping their cards close to the vest and won’t tip what they have to the Dems OR The Press until they have a strong winnable case. Sidney Powell is the very best btw, an absolutely relentless lawyer. She will be ready in 1 or 2 weeks with a case. Trump feels he was screwed and won’t stop until the courts tell him it’s over. What happens after that is anyone’s guess. We could see HUGE riots and a violent federal response this time depending how the courts rule on the ballots and the Dominion software tampering. I’m not looking forward to the next few weeks. The future direction of our nation will be decided. Uh, about Sidney Powell.... The bus just ran her over. Probably because she thinks Hugo Chavez is responsible for fraud here. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Nov 22, 2020 16:25:05 GMT -8
Trump and his legal team are gathering evidence. They are keeping their cards close to the vest and won’t tip what they have to the Dems OR The Press until they have a strong winnable case. Sidney Powell is the very best btw, an absolutely relentless lawyer. She will be ready in 1 or 2 weeks with a case. Trump feels he was screwed and won’t stop until the courts tell him it’s over. What happens after that is anyone’s guess. We could see HUGE riots and a violent federal response this time depending how the courts rule on the ballots and the Dominion software tampering. I’m not looking forward to the next few weeks. The future direction of our nation will be decided. Uh, about Sidney Powell.... The bus just ran her over. Probably because she thinks Hugo Chavez is responsible for fraud here. No data or facts, just your jaundiced opinion. The media has declared their winner, now the courts must decide where to go from here. Do we accept rigged elections from here on, like Venezuela? After 4 years of President Harris we could be eating zebra meat before starving to death. We are already being (as they say in the insurance business) “spent down”. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 22, 2020 18:29:48 GMT -8
Uh, about Sidney Powell.... The bus just ran her over. Probably because she thinks Hugo Chavez is responsible for fraud here. No data or facts, just your jaundiced opinion. The media has declared their winner, now the courts must decide where to go from here. Do we accept rigged elections from here on, like Venezuela? After 4 years of President Harris we could be eating zebra meat before starving to death. We are already being (as they say in the insurance business) “spent down”. I showed you a direct quote from Rudy Giuliani. If you can't put 2 and 2 together, after Sidney Powell's insane appearance on television...that's on you. What data or facts do you want? I'm speaking in reality, you have yet to source anything other than wild conjecture, not backed up by any evidence whatsoever. Do we accept dictatorship here? Can we throw a tantrum every single time we get a result we don't like? Claim fraud when people don't vote the way we want them to? Can we just fire people without cause for speaking the truth, like Chris Krebs? See, my version of events is actually what's happening. Your hypothetical vision of Kamala Harris being president isn't backed up by anything but ridiculous hyperbole. If you wanted to be truthful to yourself and this argument, I think you would have done so by now. Which means what's already plainly obvious : You're a bona fide member of a cult group that believes in conspiracy, irrational and illogical arguments and propaganda. Baseless claims of vote rigging are just that...Baseless. Drowning in it. Wake up. You're being grifted. If this election was *rigged*, why did the Democrats lose every single tossup race for the House? Literally. Think for yourself here. Turn off Newsmax, OAN, all of it. Tune it out. If they were going to cheat, damn did they do a terrible job of it. Pennsylvania is over, the race is over. The case was dismissed with prejudice, which means they cannot appeal on the same grounds. Another fairy tale legal filing isn't going to overturn the results. We, the country, need to move forward and get things done. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Nov 22, 2020 19:21:42 GMT -8
Funny you should mention the House races. Never before has a party swept the House and lost the Presidency. This was the first time ever. All for the least charismatic candidate in recent memory.
Like I’ve stated, it’s up to our judicial system, not Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow. The Trump team has sworn affidavits from hundreds of poll workers, election officials and Dominion associates and in spite of what the media says, a strong legal case. This needs to be done, for both sides.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 22, 2020 21:37:26 GMT -8
Funny you should mention the House races. Never before has a party swept the House and lost the Presidency. This was the first time ever. All for the least charismatic candidate in recent memory. Like I’ve stated, it’s up to our judicial system, not Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow. The Trump team has sworn affidavits from hundreds of poll workers, election officials and Dominion associates and in spite of what the media says, a strong legal case. This needs to be done, for both sides. The media calls every election. It happened in 2016. It happened in 2012. It happened in 2008, 2004, 2000 and so on. The media didn't elect Joe Biden, the people of the United States did. Overwhelmingly. If they had a strong case, why are they throwing their own lawyers off a cliff? Why has it been one laughable absurd mistake after another, whether filing in the wrong state, confusing Michigan and Minnesota, key errors in their narrative? Why haven't they been able to produce anything resembling a win in court? You are being strung along like the millions of others that voted for this petulant loser. He's building up enough money off the dumbest people on this planet to add to his defense fund. Nearly 2,000 people died today from COVID-19. When your own party is calling for you to give up, it's time. Coercing (or attempting to coerce) legislatures to overturn an election is not only undemocratic, it's grounds for impeachment (again). We need leadership to navigate a surging crisis, not a guy who is more interested in navigating the bunker on 17. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 23, 2020 1:10:25 GMT -8
trump is only making noise so he can try and cut a deal for a pardon from the Democrats on his way out. He certainly doesn't give one f x x x about anybody dying from covid, including cult members.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 23, 2020 9:55:05 GMT -8
trump is only making noise so he can try and cut a deal for a pardon from the Democrats on his way out. He certainly doesn't give one f x x x about anybody dying from covid, including cult members. He cannot be pardoned at the state level. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 23, 2020 12:09:12 GMT -8
Funny you should mention the House races. Never before has a party swept the House and lost the Presidency. This was the first time ever. All for the least charismatic candidate in recent memory. Like I’ve stated, it’s up to our judicial system, not Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow. The Trump team has sworn affidavits from hundreds of poll workers, election officials and Dominion associates and in spite of what the media says, a strong legal case. This needs to be done, for both sides. Supreme Court just declined to hear the Pennsylvania ballot case prior to certification from the state. One step closer to this miserable failure being over and another loss for the "elite strike team." Also, one note on these affidavits. The ones that have been released so far are nothingburgers. Standard stuff. The obvious goal for this campaign with the installation of Amy Coney Barrett at the 11th hour is to overturn the election. But they have to get there first - And they have to introduce the affidavits prior to that point. The fact they have won now 1 legal ruling in 36 chances....I don't think the Supreme Court wants to settle this. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 23, 2020 15:14:27 GMT -8
Emily Murphy's going to have find new employment, but great news in a positive direction here.
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Post by azson on Nov 23, 2020 15:26:18 GMT -8
Funny you should mention the House races. Never before has a party swept the House and lost the Presidency. This was the first time ever. All for the least charismatic candidate in recent memory. Like I’ve stated, it’s up to our judicial system, not Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow. The Trump team has sworn affidavits from hundreds of poll workers, election officials and Dominion associates and in spite of what the media says, a strong legal case. This needs to be done, for both sides. Still waiting on that red wave you promised us - maybe by Christmas? |
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Post by mayham81 on Nov 24, 2020 10:23:43 GMT -8
Funny you should mention the House races. Never before has a party swept the House and lost the Presidency. This was the first time ever. All for the least charismatic candidate in recent memory. Like I’ve stated, it’s up to our judicial system, not Jake Tapper or Rachel Maddow. The Trump team has sworn affidavits from hundreds of poll workers, election officials and Dominion associates and in spite of what the media says, a strong legal case. This needs to be done, for both sides. It would be interesting to do a deep dive into the house races around the country but I have a feeling the republican party, the party of projection following their dear leader, wouldn't want that. |
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