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Post by jdaztec on Sept 13, 2020 18:43:22 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 13, 2020 19:42:49 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Yes, all this dissatisfaction. My, my. I'm sure they would love to have these folks in Laramie or El Paso, perhaps?
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Post by Den60 on Sept 13, 2020 20:45:12 GMT -8
We have a lot of young people on here who have never experienced any real fear, anxiety, loss or actual hardship. Only 9/11 ever came close to what previous generations had to deal with and it lags behind WWII or the cold war. The depression, that is something they may have learned in history though someone my age had parents that lived through it. Current young people have been told they are unique, like a snowflake. That their experiences are all that matter. That is why we are producing a bunch of undereducated narcissists that have no knowledge of history and expect everything to be done for them for free.
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Post by fisherville on Sept 13, 2020 22:23:45 GMT -8
As somebody who recently built a multi unit complex in SD, and a house out of state, it’s clear why things cost so much more here. Amenities in our stadium are one factor, it’s just a nicer build, but the time, red tape, engineering, admin, tax, everything is absurdly high in CA, and is one reason why people are fleeing the state. It’s a damn joke, and becomes blatantly clear when you go To build a similar product some place else. I’m a San Diego native, but my money is better spent elsewhere nowadays. Exactly, which is why I moved to Arizona three years ago and I am so glad I did. My money goes a lot farther here than in California. I am also amazed at the people I bump into here that also moved from San Diego. Just last week my wife and I saw a gentleman walking down the sidewalk with a San Diego State t-shirt on! I worked for 20 years for a local agency in San Diego and I can tell you a plethora of stories how ridiculous the permitting requirements are in California/San Diego and how expensive it was to obtain them on a project and how the permitting requirements equated to a significant increase in construction costs. Like jpaztec said, it is a joke. I can’t imagine living in that heat
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Post by fisherville on Sept 13, 2020 22:25:16 GMT -8
We have a lot of young people on here who have never experienced any real fear, anxiety, loss or actual hardship. Only 9/11 ever came close to what previous generations had to deal with and it lags behind WWII or the cold war. The depression, that is something they may have learned in history though someone my age had parents that lived through it. Current young people have been told they are unique, like a snowflake. That their experiences are all that matter. That is why we are producing a bunch of undereducated narcissists that have no knowledge of history and expect everything to be done for them for free. It’s funny how you blame the young people when everything is rooted from their parents and so on.
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Post by aztecbo on Sept 14, 2020 5:00:00 GMT -8
I think a lot of people on this board should move out of state. Mississippi, Alabama, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Northern Idaho would be good picks. How about Northern Nevada near Tahoe? Or Utah, Heber City is nice if you don't want though pricey, not Park City pricey but not far off. Beautiful country. Texas is a fairly popular place though it is hot and humid. I know someone who moved to Wyoming and loves it. I expect, however, the places you mention were meant as some sort of insult, not only to members here but to those who live in those states. Yes, I did.
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Sept 14, 2020 5:39:58 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Yes, all this dissatisfaction. My, my. I'm sure they would love to have these folks in Laramie or El Paso, perhaps? Might want to get off your high horse. There are tons of beautiful places all throughout the country that aren't managed by clowns like California. Laramie or El Paso aren't the only options
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Sept 14, 2020 6:33:50 GMT -8
I think a lot of people on this board should move out of state. Mississippi, Alabama, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Northern Idaho would be good picks. How about Northern Nevada near Tahoe? Or Utah, Heber City is nice if you don't want though pricey, not Park City pricey but not far off. Beautiful country. Texas is a fairly popular place though it is hot and humid. I know someone who moved to Wyoming and loves it. I expect, however, the places you mention were meant as some sort of insult, not only to members here but to those who live in those states. Interesting. My boss (wife) is now wanting me to look at places in Tahoe on the NV side. She said it would be nice to be on the Lake and I told her it would be nice if she had a few extra million laying around. Sheesh. To your point, if it was meant as an insult I laugh. The fact is those states can save business owners hundreds of thousands a year. This State is just so unfriendly towards business. My regret is not being smarter earlier in life and making these moves sooner.
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Post by 🥸 Hopeless Aztec on Sept 14, 2020 6:45:56 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Yah. This is why I will keep my place here. But I will have residence in a tax free state for 6 months and 1 day at a minimum. I said these same things and felt the same way when I was young. Tell everyone to leave, less traffic, less crowds, weather is best ever, women are everywhere, jobs are better, blah blah blah... we are all young once.
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Post by junior on Sept 14, 2020 11:38:09 GMT -8
Exactly, which is why I moved to Arizona three years ago and I am so glad I did. My money goes a lot farther here than in California. I am also amazed at the people I bump into here that also moved from San Diego. Just last week my wife and I saw a gentleman walking down the sidewalk with a San Diego State t-shirt on! I worked for 20 years for a local agency in San Diego and I can tell you a plethora of stories how ridiculous the permitting requirements are in California/San Diego and how expensive it was to obtain them on a project and how the permitting requirements equated to a significant increase in construction costs. Like jpaztec said, it is a joke. The San Diego of today does not compare or resemble the San Diego of yesteryear. I have said it many times before the San Diego of today is much more like LA then San Diego (use to be)*. The weather is still great but the whole town has become so crowed that you are not able to get around like you use to or need to. I know I am getting old, so get off my lawn! * lived in San Diego for 50 years and never liked going to LA and still don't! Go Aztecs! When you've been here long enough to be able to remember all the dairy farms in Mission Valley, before Jack Murphy/San Diego/Qualcomm/SDCCU Stadium was built, the inevitable changes that growth brings have not been nice to San Diego. Can't imagine letting any kids hike down canyons to Mission Valley in 2020. Back then, we spent many summer days doing just that. We could ride our bikes down El Cajon Blvd, Adams Blvd, Park Blvd, University Ave without worrying about being run over by any number of things. So it's true, time has not been kind to San Diego, and what we remember of its golden years likely won't ever be back. But the old crowd has probably been saying that for as long as there's been an old crowd… We always remember things as being better than they are now. Perhaps in this case, though, it's true.
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Post by AzTex on Sept 14, 2020 12:19:34 GMT -8
The San Diego of today does not compare or resemble the San Diego of yesteryear. I have said it many times before the San Diego of today is much more like LA then San Diego (use to be)*. The weather is still great but the whole town has become so crowed that you are not able to get around like you use to or need to. I know I am getting old, so get off my lawn! * lived in San Diego for 50 years and never liked going to LA and still don't! Go Aztecs! When you've been here long enough to be able to remember all the dairy farms in Mission Valley, before Jack Murphy/San Diego/Qualcomm/SDCCU Stadium was built, the inevitable changes that growth brings have not been nice to San Diego. Can't imagine letting any kids hike down canyons to Mission Valley in 2020. Back then, we spent many summer days doing just that. We could ride our bikes down El Cajon Blvd, Adams Blvd, Park Blvd, University Ave without worrying about being run over by any number of things. So it's true, time has not been kind to San Diego, and what we remember of its golden years likely won't ever be back. But the old crowd has probably been saying that for as long as there's been an old crowd… We always remember things as being better than they are now. Perhaps in this case, though, it's true. I've been here long enough and I'm old enough to remember all that. As kids we would hike the hills and canyons. We'd climb Cowles Mountain (we called it Black Mountain) with no concerns, other than getting back home before supper. I remember exploring the drainage pipes around our neighborhood. They were scary, but only because of the pitch black dark.
Sadly it's not just San Diego where kids, or even adults, don't dare do any of these things. My kids had some of that freedom, but not my grandkids. The past, RIP.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 14, 2020 12:26:50 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Yes, all this dissatisfaction. My, my. I'm sure they would love to have these folks in Laramie or El Paso, perhaps? Actually, many places are none too happy when they get an large I flux of people from CA. Aside from that, there are plenty of beautiful places to live, just depends on what your interests are. I love the beach, but having explored around Boise for a week after one of our games I finally understood term "God's County".
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Post by missiontrails on Sept 14, 2020 12:47:46 GMT -8
All things considered, I'm staying for the fish tacos and California burritos......oh, and to stay close by my Aztecs!
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Post by fisher1fan on Sept 14, 2020 13:03:56 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Yah. This is why I will keep my place here. But I will have residence in a tax free state for 6 months and 1 day at a minimum. I said these same things and felt the same way when I was young. Tell everyone to leave, less traffic, less crowds, weather is best ever, women are everywhere, jobs are better, blah blah blah... we are all young once. To me, it seems that people leave California, if they cannot afford the price tag. I have had several close friends leave for that reason. I cannot blame them. Honestly, it isn’t for everyone’s budget. That being said, people are often here because the quality of life is better (for those that can afford it). I’d rather make enough to stay than try to find a reason to leave. I don’t imagine I’ll have an issue once I decide to retire. I always joke that I could retire in Cuba today. I’m in my 30s.
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Post by mactec on Sept 14, 2020 14:45:57 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Yah. This is why I will keep my place here. But I will have residence in a tax free state for 6 months and 1 day at a minimum. I said these same things and felt the same way when I was young. Yikes! Fire your accountant. Living, owning a home, and working while in California, doing anything that elevates you above "tourist" is enough to require you to file income tax in California for the year as a partial residence.
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Post by Old School on Sept 15, 2020 10:37:09 GMT -8
South Alabama. Sure it's cheap, but look at the LOCATION!! Oldie Out
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Post by tonatiuh on Sept 19, 2020 19:24:00 GMT -8
mynbc15.com/news/local/university-of-south-alabama-prepares-for-first-football-game-in-new-stadiumThey opened up their new digs today....Hancock Whitney Stadium Two Years to build, $75M in cost, and estimates are they received $10M in naming rights. Congrats to USA. Here are the last 4 stadiums built and their cost: South Alabama - 2020 - $75M - 25K capacity - $3k a seat Colorado St. - 2017 - $220M - 41K capacity - $5.3K a seat Tulane - 2014 - $75M - 30K capacity - $2,500 a seat Houston - 2014 - $120M - 40K capacity - $3,000 a seat San Diego State - $315M 35K seats - $9,000 a seat. What am I missing, why is State's build so much more than even CSU? None of those stadiums were built in Southern California. Correct, plus how much has inflation gone up in just say three years? You want a stadium built in So. CAL you pay for it! Prices are cheaper in those other states for sure!
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Post by McQuervo on Sept 20, 2020 6:06:37 GMT -8
I think a lot of people on this board should move out of state. Mississippi, Alabama, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Northern Idaho would be good picks. In Process-Viva Mexico! www.bajamar.com
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Post by frustratedfan on Sept 20, 2020 10:22:30 GMT -8
I love it in California. If you want to leave though I wish you the best in your travels. Totally understand why you love California. If you are someone who I use to work with, like I think you are, you told me in the past how you loved to read books on the old west. Well, where we live it is smack dab in the heart of the old west. We live about 40 minutes away from the Dragoon mountains where Cochise lived, and about and hour from the Chiricahua mountains where Geronimo lived. We are also about 40 minutes away from the town of Tombstone. The actual grave site of Johnny Ringo is also nearby....all of those who liked the movies of Tombstone and Wyatt Earp will be disappointed to find out that Doc Holliday did not kill Johnny Ringo, but Johnny Ringo actually committed suicide. That kind of ruined my opinion of those movies when I found out the truth. Anyway, I understand why you love California, but people who are interested in the old west would enjoy Arizona also. As for me, my money just goes farther here.
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Post by zurac315 on Sept 20, 2020 13:05:16 GMT -8
Yes, all this dissatisfaction. My, my. I'm sure they would love to have these folks in Laramie or El Paso, perhaps? Might want to get off your high horse. There are tons of beautiful places all throughout the country that aren't managed by clowns like California. Laramie or El Paso aren't the only options Mobile is a nice town. Not sure I'd want to live in Alabama though. Boston is my favorite. The winters can be tough but the summers are great. Excellent schools and the best medical facilities in the country. But, then again, it's pretty pricey. I moved out a bit and lived in nearby Quincy for 18 years. Only came back to California when it became necessary.
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