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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 9, 2020 12:37:18 GMT -8
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Post by moctezumaii on Sept 9, 2020 12:44:51 GMT -8
I had no idea Michigan's pressing problems had been resolved to tackle the issue of football. How's Flint's water taste now, Mr. Speaker?
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 10, 2020 9:02:27 GMT -8
By all accounts the #1 person holding the B1G season up is Michigan Prez Dr. Mark Schlissel, who apparently is the most influential Prez in the conference. I hope they can make it happen & we start seeing both the 2 P5's & hopefully the MWC all practicing late this month or early Oct, and games late in October/early Nov. What would really make it happen is everyone having access to Quick Tests, with same day results.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Sept 10, 2020 9:28:07 GMT -8
Covid-19 is indeed a serious threat, but why would college football necessarily be too dangerous to go forward? The players are young and are at minimal risk. If only 1/4 of a stadium is filled, would that not reduce the danger to fans? Maybe I am wrong on this. It does seem to me that the main reason colleges are cancelling the season is financial, not medical.
AzWm
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 10, 2020 10:28:45 GMT -8
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Post by hoobs on Sept 10, 2020 11:52:09 GMT -8
Why is it crazy to require masks for organized athletic activities, excepting pro sports?
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 10, 2020 12:14:51 GMT -8
Why is it crazy to require masks for organized athletic activities, excepting pro sports? Why is it crazy to wear a mask when you play sports? Wow. You really have to ask that? You must be a couch potato. Here's just one study done using a surgical mask (which is pretty flimsy to begin with) and just a SIX minute walk. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/*key take away* Dyspnea variation was significantly higher with surgical mask (+5.6 vs. +4.6; P<0.001) and the difference was clinically relevant. Now imagine you are RUNNING for 45 minutes (ie soccer).
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Sept 10, 2020 12:40:34 GMT -8
Not to mention if you're playing football I doubt a mask will slow the spread a whole lot. If dudes are running their heads/faces/bodies into each other and in dog piles I think its safe to assume the spread will happen regardless
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Post by AzTex on Sept 10, 2020 12:45:30 GMT -8
California is, but that doesn't mean it's the only one.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 10, 2020 12:59:01 GMT -8
That is bizarre. All for coverings among spectators & coaches, or even while on the sidelines. But seems odd on the field, and worthless in a contact sport. Imagine a kid getting hit tackled but not going down & his mask under is face mask slides over his eyes. Anyway, interesting. A CYA thing to protect from liabilities??
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Post by wakelaunch on Sept 10, 2020 14:08:47 GMT -8
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Post by hoobs on Sept 10, 2020 14:22:45 GMT -8
Why is it crazy to require masks for organized athletic activities, excepting pro sports? Why is it crazy to wear a mask when you play sports? Wow. You really have to ask that? You must be a couch potato. Here's just one study done using a surgical mask (which is pretty flimsy to begin with) and just a SIX minute walk. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/*key take away* Dyspnea variation was significantly higher with surgical mask (+5.6 vs. +4.6; P<0.001) and the difference was clinically relevant. Now imagine you are RUNNING for 45 minutes (ie soccer). Sorry to disappoint you, but I have a couple masks here I can wear when going out for 5 mile runs. Yeah, makes breathing a little harder, but I can still do the run. So... thanks for your concern, but no, I'm not a couch potato.
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 10, 2020 15:05:44 GMT -8
Why is it crazy to wear a mask when you play sports? Wow. You really have to ask that? You must be a couch potato. Here's just one study done using a surgical mask (which is pretty flimsy to begin with) and just a SIX minute walk. pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/*key take away* Dyspnea variation was significantly higher with surgical mask (+5.6 vs. +4.6; P<0.001) and the difference was clinically relevant. Now imagine you are RUNNING for 45 minutes (ie soccer). Sorry to disappoint you, but I have a couple masks here I can wear when going out for 5 mile runs. Yeah, makes breathing a little harder, but I can still do the run. So... thanks for your concern, but no, I'm not a couch potato. Don't worry, I'm not concerned about you, no offense. You want to run with a mask on, go for it. But I doubt you'd be able to play a sport where you sprint and get hit to you maximum potential while wearing a mask. But if you want to equate your leisurely jog to that of an athlete trying to make plays while wearing a mask, that's where you are wrong.
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Post by hoobs on Sept 10, 2020 15:42:57 GMT -8
Sorry to disappoint you, but I have a couple masks here I can wear when going out for 5 mile runs. Yeah, makes breathing a little harder, but I can still do the run. So... thanks for your concern, but no, I'm not a couch potato. Don't worry, I'm not concerned about you, no offense. You want to run with a mask on, go for it. But I doubt you'd be able to play a sport where you sprint and get hit to you maximum potential while wearing a mask. But if you want to equate your leisurely jog to that of an athlete trying to make plays while wearing a mask, that's where you are wrong. If all the athletes are wearing the same masks, then it remains an even and fair competition. "Maximum potential" is always relative to conditions. Just like playing in really hot & humid conditions, or at altitude. In both cases, playing to "maximum potential" is sacrificed due to various factors that make it harder. Bit everyone on the field / court / whatever has to do the same. Why is that a crazy or inconceivable compromise?
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 10, 2020 16:56:35 GMT -8
No matter how you try to rationalize the necessity for athletes to wear masks during competition the kids most likely will not wear it properly anyways. You get to feel good because the kids wear masks (just like you do when out for your leisurely jog...um ok) and they get to breath (mostly). Win-win I guess.
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Post by hoobs on Sept 10, 2020 17:12:31 GMT -8
Got it, you want zero compromise for things that might bring safety accommodations... and you enjoy giving snarky and passive aggressive insults.
What a place this board has become. SMDH.
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Post by sdmotohead on Sept 10, 2020 17:20:30 GMT -8
Got it, you want zero compromise for things that might bring safety accommodations... and you enjoy giving snarky and passive aggressive insults. What a place this board has become. SMDH. Now you just sound butt-hurt.
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 11, 2020 8:54:52 GMT -8
Since they wouldn't start until late October at the earliest this is a non-issue. James Franklin said today he was frustrated with the lack of communication from the B1G offices, and believes what's in the best interest of athletes is playing, rather than sitting around waiting to play. “That’s the challenge. Not only to not be going through our normal routines -- that’s challenging. But then to be sitting there on a Saturday or a Friday night and watching other people play and we’re not a part of it,” he said. “Everything you hear, everybody you talk to -- the problems have nothing to do with football. You haven’t heard any issues about football. We haven’t had any and nobody I’ve talked to has had any here. It’s all the behaviors away from football. So that would lead you to the argument -- wouldn’t it make sense to keep sports going to keep people busy? Everything I’ve heard, it’s been the actions away from sports that have really caused the issues.”
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Post by hoobs on Sept 11, 2020 9:56:54 GMT -8
Got it, you want zero compromise for things that might bring safety accommodations... and you enjoy giving snarky and passive aggressive insults. What a place this board has become. SMDH. Now you just sound butt-hurt. And you're reinforcing my point...
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Post by Den60 on Sept 11, 2020 18:16:41 GMT -8
They did just what we should do I believe. Right after their commissioner announced that they were going to postpone fall sports many parents of various universities wrote in to complain saying they wanted their kids to play this season. And, of course the athletes wanted to play also. Taking the proper precautions they didn't feel their children were at risk that much. We could do the same, and have the athletes sign a waiver stating they would not sue the school if they should come down with the virus. Only those who really wish to play should come out, and those who don't can stay home. * And, one more thing, get rid of Craig Thompson! We could do the same, and have the athletes sign a waiver stating they would not sue the school if they should come down with the virus. Only those who really wish to play should come out, and those who don't can stay home.We should not be in the business of asking kids 18-22 years old to sign waivers excluding the University from liability and culpability in this fight against Covid-19 and trying to play football so a bunch of adults sitting in their homes quarantining have something to watch on TV. Just my opinion. Any waiver being "waived" in front of these young men should immediately be retracted and put in the paper shredder. These kids do not need to be potentially jeopardized in these trying times as this isn't there profession such as the adults in the major sports at the pro level. Again, just my opinion. You do understand that signing such a waiver works in New Zealand but not in the USA and especially not in California, right?
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