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Post by aztecryan on Nov 27, 2020 20:05:10 GMT -8
As a privately-run platform, they have the right to do as they seem fit. Not complicated to grasp that. Dangerous (and false, for the record) information has no place to be spread around like wildfire. These repeated false claims that have zero factual backing only serve to undermine election security and safety. False like the "Big Guy" Email? Thought so. Yes. Like the exact opposite of the Trump-appointed Postmaster General misplacing (haha) ballots in key Democratic strongholds, then willfully ignoring a court order to sweep facilities to ensure timely delivery of those ballots. Not a word from you on that topic. Odd. If we care about actual disenfranchised voters, shouldn't we care about *all* of them? |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 27, 2020 20:17:00 GMT -8
Any "private" publisher willing to sensor the truth can not be trusted to honestly limit so called "disinformation". They are propagandists and nothing more.
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 27, 2020 20:21:13 GMT -8
Any "private" publisher willing to sensor the truth can not be trusted to honestly limit so called "disinformation". They are propagandists and nothing more. Twitter doesn't take an actual stance. They post warning links and "disputed" tabs on tweets that are actually disputed by outside parties. If you want an echo chamber of bull$#!+, Parler exists. Answer the question, please. DeJoy's tampering/destruction is disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters. Considering what the Trump campaign is doing now is North Korea levels of propaganda, without evidence, you could argue that's exactly what they are trying to do. Here's an example. This is dangerous, false information. Twitter should suspend or terminate the president's account. It's a violation of their ToS. They will not do that, they have stated, on the record. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 27, 2020 21:11:08 GMT -8
Any "private" publisher willing to sensor the truth can not be trusted to honestly limit so called "disinformation". They are propagandists and nothing more. Twitter doesn't take an actual stance. They post warning links and "disputed" tabs on tweets that are actually disputed by outside parties. If you want an echo chamber of bull$#!+, Parler exists. Answer the question, please. DeJoy's tampering/destruction is disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters. Considering what the Trump campaign is doing now is North Korea levels of propaganda, without evidence, you could argue that's exactly what they are trying to do. Here's an example. This is dangerous, false information. Twitter should suspend or terminate the president's account. It's a violation of their ToS. They will not do that, they have stated, on the record. They do, in fact. Often saying their censorship was a "mistake" some days or so after the fact, and always against the interest of only one political perspective shows an unambiguous bias. When you sign up to comment on the DailyKoz or the Patriot Post, you know what you are in for. Twitter and FB portrays themselves as an entirely different animal yet we find out just before an election they are deceptive leftist opinion influencers. The worst types. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 27, 2020 22:37:02 GMT -8
Twitter doesn't take an actual stance. They post warning links and "disputed" tabs on tweets that are actually disputed by outside parties. If you want an echo chamber of bull$#!+, Parler exists. Answer the question, please. DeJoy's tampering/destruction is disenfranchising hundreds of thousands of voters. Considering what the Trump campaign is doing now is North Korea levels of propaganda, without evidence, you could argue that's exactly what they are trying to do. Here's an example. This is dangerous, false information. Twitter should suspend or terminate the president's account. It's a violation of their ToS. They will not do that, they have stated, on the record. They do, in fact. Often saying their censorship was a "mistake" some days or so after the fact, and always against the interest of only one political perspective shows an unambiguous bias. When you sign up to comment on the DailyKoz or the Patriot Post, you know what you are in for. Twitter and FB portrays themselves as an entirely different animal yet we find out just before an election they are deceptive leftist opinion influencers. The worst types. So you have refused to answer a basic question now twice. So you openly admit you're trying to find information of a certain type and not wanting objective material. Fair enough. "The worst" is subjective based upon whatever you're looking for. I don't compare social media with actual news outlets, but I consider Breitbart, Gateway Pundit and the Washington Examiner to be toilet paper nonsense. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 28, 2020 8:32:22 GMT -8
They do, in fact. Often saying their censorship was a "mistake" some days or so after the fact, and always against the interest of only one political perspective shows an unambiguous bias. When you sign up to comment on the DailyKoz or the Patriot Post, you know what you are in for. Twitter and FB portrays themselves as an entirely different animal yet we find out just before an election they are deceptive leftist opinion influencers. The worst types. So you have refused to answer a basic question now twice. So you openly admit you're trying to find information of a certain type and not wanting objective material. Fair enough. "The worst" is subjective based upon whatever you're looking for. I don't compare social media with actual news outlets, but I consider Breitbart, Gateway Pundit and the Washington Examiner to be toilet paper nonsense. To each their own. Some idiots sport Che Guevara T Shirts. Some read the NYT Op Eds. Some read the Federalist Op Eds. So what? FB, Google and Twitter all claim that they are neutral to political preference and that is a provable lie. They (FB. Twitter and Google) are ubiquitous and have significant power in their positions. They make it a trade craft to influence without being too overtly obvious. They are so good at it that some idiots will actually claim they are neutral. You are seemingly ok with that, I assume, because their particular form of toilet paper helps your political party primarily. And spare me the clammor about allowing Trump's tweets. Shutting down his feed would make their bias obvious even to the most clueless. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 10:19:16 GMT -8
So you have refused to answer a basic question now twice. So you openly admit you're trying to find information of a certain type and not wanting objective material. Fair enough. "The worst" is subjective based upon whatever you're looking for. I don't compare social media with actual news outlets, but I consider Breitbart, Gateway Pundit and the Washington Examiner to be toilet paper nonsense. To each their own. Some idiots sport Che Guevara T Shirts. Some read the NYT Op Eds. Some read the Federalist Op Eds. So what? FB, Google and Twitter all claim that they are neutral to political preference and that is a provable lie. They (FB. Twitter and Google) are ubiquitous and have significant power in their positions. They make it a trade craft to influence without being too overtly obvious. They are so good at it that some idiots will actually claim they are neutral. You are seemingly ok with that, I assume, because their particular form of toilet paper helps your political party primarily. And spare me the clammor about allowing Trump's tweets. Shutting down his feed would make their bias obvious even to the most clueless. You don't seem to grasp "private platform"....which is a key distinction here. If I go around making threats on Twitter, or violate their ToS, my account would be terminated. I actually know someone who tested a theory : They copied the president's tweet on a particular subject and were suspended within hours. The president has abused this more times than I can count, spreading lies, racism, bigotry and xenophobic statements. Free speech extensions only last so long, I hope you are aware. You can't post whatever you want, just because it makes sense to you, when it endangers others. www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/facebook-news-zuckerberg-conservative-liberal/2020/10/26/04722572-1464-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.htmlFacebook, again, is not a liberal platform. Don't confuse removing pro-Trump groups that are actively calling for violence (which belongs nowhere) with being "biased." You're deep down this victim rabbit hole. Pretty sad to see how disingenuous this argument can be. And you still haven't answered the question. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 28, 2020 10:27:16 GMT -8
To each their own. Some idiots sport Che Guevara T Shirts. Some read the NYT Op Eds. Some read the Federalist Op Eds. So what? FB, Google and Twitter all claim that they are neutral to political preference and that is a provable lie. They (FB. Twitter and Google) are ubiquitous and have significant power in their positions. They make it a trade craft to influence without being too overtly obvious. They are so good at it that some idiots will actually claim they are neutral. You are seemingly ok with that, I assume, because their particular form of toilet paper helps your political party primarily. And spare me the clammor about allowing Trump's tweets. Shutting down his feed would make their bias obvious even to the most clueless. You don't seem to grasp "private platform"....which is a key distinction here. If I go around making threats on Twitter, or violate their ToS, my account would be terminated. I actually know someone who tested a theory : They copied the president's tweet on a particular subject and were suspended within hours. The president has abused this more times than I can count, spreading lies, racism, bigotry and xenophobic statements. Free speech extensions only last so long, I hope you are aware. You can't post whatever you want, just because it makes sense to you, when it endangers others. www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/facebook-news-zuckerberg-conservative-liberal/2020/10/26/04722572-1464-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.htmlFacebook, again, is not a liberal platform. Don't confuse removing pro-Trump groups that are actively calling for violence (which belongs nowhere) with being "biased." You're deep down this victim rabbit hole. Pretty sad to see how disingenuous this argument can be. And you still haven't answered the question. Deprogramming is the only hope for ptsdthor! Dude is so far down the rabbit hole, it would take "journey to the center of the earth" to find him. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 28, 2020 12:36:12 GMT -8
To each their own. Some idiots sport Che Guevara T Shirts. Some read the NYT Op Eds. Some read the Federalist Op Eds. So what? FB, Google and Twitter all claim that they are neutral to political preference and that is a provable lie. They (FB. Twitter and Google) are ubiquitous and have significant power in their positions. They make it a trade craft to influence without being too overtly obvious. They are so good at it that some idiots will actually claim they are neutral. You are seemingly ok with that, I assume, because their particular form of toilet paper helps your political party primarily. And spare me the clammor about allowing Trump's tweets. Shutting down his feed would make their bias obvious even to the most clueless. You don't seem to grasp "private platform"....which is a key distinction here. If I go around making threats on Twitter, or violate their ToS, my account would be terminated. I actually know someone who tested a theory : They copied the president's tweet on a particular subject and were suspended within hours. The president has abused this more times than I can count, spreading lies, racism, bigotry and xenophobic statements. Free speech extensions only last so long, I hope you are aware. You can't post whatever you want, just because it makes sense to you, when it endangers others. www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/facebook-news-zuckerberg-conservative-liberal/2020/10/26/04722572-1464-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.htmlFacebook, again, is not a liberal platform. Don't confuse removing pro-Trump groups that are actively calling for violence (which belongs nowhere) with being "biased." You're deep down this victim rabbit hole. Pretty sad to see how disingenuous this argument can be. And you still haven't answered the question. If you dare check out Dr. Robert Epstein and the bias of Google. See the above link and elsewhere (use www.google.com  ). Spoiler alert, you can't refute what he claims. To think that similar ideologies and schemes are not in play at FB & Twitter is delusional. I've seen it. You've seen it too. But True Believers and their any means possible could care less. Sure, once you checked the box when you download the app, a cynic should know they are screwed. Their sin, if you will, is that they obscure their bias to the unassuming user and they lie to congress when confronted with the facts, etc. And they do this because they have a leftist political agenda. You can't watch the tapes from their crying sessions after the 2016 election to know that this is true. Believe what you will thinking there is no bias in San Fran and Seattle tech but facts show otherwise and arguments claiming there is no overt bias will be lost on anyone with any intellectual honesty. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 12:52:02 GMT -8
You don't seem to grasp "private platform"....which is a key distinction here. If I go around making threats on Twitter, or violate their ToS, my account would be terminated. I actually know someone who tested a theory : They copied the president's tweet on a particular subject and were suspended within hours. The president has abused this more times than I can count, spreading lies, racism, bigotry and xenophobic statements. Free speech extensions only last so long, I hope you are aware. You can't post whatever you want, just because it makes sense to you, when it endangers others. www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/media/facebook-news-zuckerberg-conservative-liberal/2020/10/26/04722572-1464-11eb-bc10-40b25382f1be_story.htmlFacebook, again, is not a liberal platform. Don't confuse removing pro-Trump groups that are actively calling for violence (which belongs nowhere) with being "biased." You're deep down this victim rabbit hole. Pretty sad to see how disingenuous this argument can be. And you still haven't answered the question. If you dare check out Dr. Robert Epstein and the bias of Google. See the above link and elsewhere (use www.google.com ). Spoiler alert, you can't refute what he claims. To think that similar ideologies and schemes are not in play at FB & Twitter is delusional. I've seen it. You've seen it too. But True Believers and their any means possible could care less. Sure, once you checked the box when you download the app, a cynic should know they are screwed. Their sin, if you will, is that they obscure their bias to the unassuming user and they lie to congress when confronted with the facts, etc. And they do this because they have a leftist political agenda. You can't watch the tapes from their crying sessions after the 2016 election to know that this is true. Believe what you will thinking there is no bias in San Fran and Seattle tech but facts show otherwise and arguments claiming there is no overt bias will be lost on anyone with any intellectual honesty. All I wanted was for you to answer one question honestly and you can't. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 28, 2020 15:58:06 GMT -8
logiclogiclogic.wordpress.com/2019/09/09/dr-robert-epstein-and-seme-search-engine-manipulation-effect/If you dare check out Dr. Robert Epstein and the bias of Google. See the above link and elsewhere (use www.google.com ). Spoiler alert, you can't refute what he claims. To think that similar ideologies and schemes are not in play at FB & Twitter is delusional. I've seen it. You've seen it too. But True Believers and their any means possible could care less. Sure, once you checked the box when you download the app, a cynic should know they are screwed. Their sin, if you will, is that they obscure their bias to the unassuming user and they lie to congress when confronted with the facts, etc. And they do this because they have a leftist political agenda. You can't watch the tapes from their crying sessions after the 2016 election to know that this is true. Believe what you will thinking there is no bias in San Fran and Seattle tech but facts show otherwise and arguments claiming there is no overt bias will be lost on anyone with any intellectual honesty. All I wanted was for you to answer one question honestly and you can't. Are you serious Ryan?? This guy is incapable of giving you what you want. Why press it? |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 16:01:02 GMT -8
All I wanted was for you to answer one question honestly and you can't. Are you serious Ryan?? This guy is incapable of giving you what you want. Why press it? Calm down. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 28, 2020 16:24:47 GMT -8
Are you serious Ryan?? This guy is incapable of giving you what you want. Why press it? Calm down. oh, what about what I just said is not accurate? |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 16:49:37 GMT -8
oh, what about what I just said is not accurate? You notice how my posts are mostly just calm, factually emphatic and don't include unnecessary ranting and raving? It's about the message, not the messenger. I'd rather get to the root of the problem than kick the tree. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 28, 2020 16:55:51 GMT -8
oh, what about what I just said is not accurate? You notice how my posts are mostly just calm, factually emphatic and don't include unnecessary ranting and raving? It's about the message, not the messenger. I'd rather get to the root of the problem than kick the tree. Ryan, I enjoy the depth of your posts, however...sometimes you just gotta get to the bottom of the situation...you are talking to a brick wall. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 17:13:55 GMT -8
You notice how my posts are mostly just calm, factually emphatic and don't include unnecessary ranting and raving? It's about the message, not the messenger. I'd rather get to the root of the problem than kick the tree. Ryan, I enjoy the depth of your posts, however...sometimes you just gotta get to the bottom of the situation...you are talking to a brick wall. That's fine. But it's me talking to that wall. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 28, 2020 17:28:46 GMT -8
Ryan, I enjoy the depth of your posts, however...sometimes you just gotta get to the bottom of the situation...you are talking to a brick wall. That's fine. But it's me talking to that wall. ok..you get him all to yourself..good luck.. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 17:49:44 GMT -8
That's fine. But it's me talking to that wall. ok..you get him all to yourself..good luck.. I'm just trying to find more perspectives to widen my understanding of people. Not like more than 5 people really participate in this forum. |
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Post by uwphoto on Nov 28, 2020 18:07:57 GMT -8
ok..you get him all to yourself..good luck.. I'm just trying to find more perspectives to widen my understanding of people. Not like more than 5 people really participate in this forum. I get it. I'm sure you pay attention to right wing media? Its a different universe. You may as well live on another planet. I think the only hope is to cut America into two different countries. However, as you have seen, its impossible due to overlap. Maybe with the current administration, it will calm down. Trump is a conniving SOB. He used WWE methodology to pit Americans against each other. Insidious, but it works if you want to gain power. Are Americans that stoopid?...turns out the answer is yes! Don't know what the future holds, but the blueprint is there for all to see. A disciplined, focused version of trump is in the wings...and it won't be easily laughed off like this douche of a human. |
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Post by aztecryan on Nov 28, 2020 19:00:09 GMT -8
I'm just trying to find more perspectives to widen my understanding of people. Not like more than 5 people really participate in this forum. I get it. I'm sure you pay attention to right wing media? Its a different universe. You may as well live on another planet. I think the only hope is to cut America into two different countries. However, as you have seen, its impossible due to overlap. Maybe with the current administration, it will calm down. Trump is a conniving SOB. He used WWE methodology to pit Americans against each other. Insidious, but it works if you want to gain power. Are Americans that stoopid?...turns out the answer is yes! Don't know what the future holds, but the blueprint is there for all to see. A disciplined, focused version of trump is in the wings...and it won't be easily laughed off like this douche of a human. I'm very active on Twitter. Believe me, I see a ton of it on a daily basis. |
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). Spoiler alert, you can't refute what he claims. To think that similar ideologies and schemes are not in play at FB & Twitter is delusional. I've seen it. You've seen it too. But True Believers and their any means possible could care less.