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Post by panammaniac on Jun 10, 2020 8:50:16 GMT -8
If you've ever been to a game in Milwaukee, they took the original stadium footprint, which is still in the parking lot of the new stadium, and made a Little League field out of it. It's kind of cool. In Minneapolis, the Mall of America stands where the old Bloomington Stadium (Twins/Vikings) once stood, but in the little theme park that sits in the middle of the mall they have a plaque marking where the original home plate was, and a couple of the original seats mounted high up on the wall where the first row of outfield seats was. Also pretty cool. There's things you can do to commemorate a former ballpark/stadium site without taking up much real estate. It would be nice if there was some sort of similar thing in the new site plan, even a small monument marking where home plate was, or something. Yes, the stadium is long past its days and it's time for it to go, but it has been part of San Diego's history for so long, and has created so many memories for the city, that it deserves recognition. And never forget, it was considered an innovative stadium in its day, and was arguably the best of the multi-use baseball/football stadiums of that era.
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Post by hoobs on Jun 10, 2020 9:11:06 GMT -8
That is exactly what is going to happen. So on game day, for those who don't already reside there or take the trolley in, where do the cars go? Will we need an adjacent parking garage, off-site - but within walking distance? I'm assuming those designated tailgating areas are for foot traffic. My hunch is that there will be some "premium" parking in Mission Valley, but a lot of parking will be @ the Mesa, with folks taking the trolley from there.
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Post by AzTex on Jun 10, 2020 9:21:04 GMT -8
That is exactly what is going to happen. So on game day, for those who don't already reside there or take the trolley in, where do the cars go? Will we need an adjacent parking garage, off-site - but within walking distance? I'm assuming those designated tailgating areas are for foot traffic. Asked and answered many times here.
There will be some parking available in the parking garages on site. More parking will be available on the sports fields. But, most will have to arrive via public transportation or car pooling. Unlikely there will ever be another stadium built in a major city with the amount of on site parking we enjoyed at San Diego Stadium.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jun 10, 2020 13:10:58 GMT -8
That is exactly what is going to happen. So on game day, for those who don't already reside there or take the trolley in, where do the cars go? Will we need an adjacent parking garage, off-site - but within walking distance? I'm assuming those designated tailgating areas are for foot traffic. The 2 large fields adjacent to the stadium will be tailgating. Also, there are 13,000 underground parking spaces. The 80 acres of parks & open space will be available for pregame activities/picnics etc. And don’t forget the Aztec stadiums game day experience will be a completely new experience more in line with Petco Park. Gonna be amazing!
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Post by aztec66 on Jun 10, 2020 13:38:24 GMT -8
My understanding is that after the stadium and river park, the complete build-out will take around 10 years. So I would assume on site parking would slowly fade away over that period giving fans sufficient time to adapt.
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Post by jdaztec on Jun 10, 2020 13:46:59 GMT -8
Good point.
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Post by aztech on Jun 10, 2020 15:44:00 GMT -8
That is exactly what is going to happen. So on game day, for those who don't already reside there or take the trolley in, where do the cars go? Will we need an adjacent parking garage, off-site - but within walking distance? I'm assuming those designated tailgating areas are for foot traffic. Just out of curiosity when we have a game attended by about 40K fans, how full is the existing parking lot? Keep in mind that it's rare to see one fan per car.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 10, 2020 16:25:56 GMT -8
So on game day, for those who don't already reside there or take the trolley in, where do the cars go? Will we need an adjacent parking garage, off-site - but within walking distance? I'm assuming those designated tailgating areas are for foot traffic. Just out of curiosity when we have a game attended by about 40K fans, how full is the existing parking lot? Keep in mind that it's rare to see one fan per car. Plenty of room.
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Post by aztecryan on Jun 11, 2020 12:12:58 GMT -8
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Post by sleepy on Jun 11, 2020 12:54:39 GMT -8
It'd be kind of sweet if they could figure out some sort of on-site storage system so you can leave your pop-up, chairs, tables, BBQ etc and have it ready for the next game. That way, if you are trolleying in or using Uber, etc you just have to bring food and drink rather than schlepping ten tons of tailgate apparatusesback and forth every couple weeks..
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Post by jdaztec on Jun 11, 2020 13:30:46 GMT -8
Hopefully another major hurdle crossed next Wednesday.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jun 11, 2020 19:20:36 GMT -8
It'd be kind of sweet if they could figure out some sort of on-site storage system so you can leave your pop-up, chairs, tables, BBQ etc and have it ready for the next game. That way, if you are trolleying in or using Uber, etc you just have to bring food and drink rather than schlepping ten tons of tailgate apparatusesback and forth every couple weeks.. I suspect we will offer something similar to this. Also there will likely be some form of Aztec Village, AFL & Aztec Club. Plus, the stadium itself will be one giant tailgate. www.tailgaterconcierge.com/ucla/
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Post by AzTex on Jun 11, 2020 21:23:17 GMT -8
It'd be kind of sweet if they could figure out some sort of on-site storage system so you can leave your pop-up, chairs, tables, BBQ etc and have it ready for the next game. That way, if you are trolleying in or using Uber, etc you just have to bring food and drink rather than schlepping ten tons of tailgate apparatusesback and forth every couple weeks.. I suspect we will offer something similar to this. Also there will likely be some form of Aztec Village, AFL & Aztec Club. Plus, the stadium itself will be one giant tailgate. www.tailgaterconcierge.com/ucla/That's one of the things I love about free enterprise. Great ideas to solve problems.
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Post by jp92grad on Jun 11, 2020 22:05:38 GMT -8
It'd be kind of sweet if they could figure out some sort of on-site storage system so you can leave your pop-up, chairs, tables, BBQ etc and have it ready for the next game. That way, if you are trolleying in or using Uber, etc you just have to bring food and drink rather than schlepping ten tons of tailgate apparatusesback and forth every couple weeks.. I suspect we will offer something similar to this. Also there will likely be some form of Aztec Village, AFL & Aztec Club. Plus, the stadium itself will be one giant tailgate. www.tailgaterconcierge.com/ucla/It would be great to see SDSU (or at least someone from sdsu) get in front of something like this and not some uninvolved 3rd party. I could see different groups having small to mid size set ups for meeting up with friends on the way in. They could have drop off points where you could just add to the party (byob) then get a stamp or wrist band (and "Party on Grath"). This would keep the upfront cost down until they figure out what is needed. This could all take place within Aztec Village with an entrance fee of some type (party with-in a party) *Scary though would be for all the misfits from here and Aztec Mesa all in one place (ouch!) Once this stadium gets built, the number one priority needs to be getting alumni and students involved in the University's development of the entire site. This should start with the game day experience. That means the game day experience across the board. From advertising the schedule though out the summer, Big push week of game, Best ways to commute to game (make all best possible), really make arrival something special (driving, trolley, buses, Uber...) once onsite there needs to be Aztecs game day VIBE not just an Ace employee with their hand out wanting money. Don't give me the old line "we already do this" line, what was done in the pass needs big improvement. This University needs to spend some money in the marketing department upfront, you only get 1 shot at first impressions. I think you guys get the picture, no more excuses this will be our stadium! no more cold concrete bowl half full lacking the Aztec feel. This could be (will be!) something special to see.
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Post by aztecfred on Jun 13, 2020 7:09:41 GMT -8
We gonna have natural grass at Aztec stadium?
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Post by Den60 on Jun 13, 2020 11:09:16 GMT -8
We gonna have natural grass at Aztec stadium? If you want soccer then you better. Anyway, stupid to have the fake stuff in SoCal. We just want to make sure we are not as close to the water table the as the current stadium and, hopefully, the design a good drainage system.
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Post by jp92grad on Jun 13, 2020 11:36:13 GMT -8
We gonna have natural grass at Aztec stadium? If you want soccer then you better. Anyway, stupid to have the fake stuff in SoCal. We just want to make sure we are not as close to the water the as the current stadium and, hopefully, the design a good drainage system. Bigger issue will be for budget of ground crew, natural grass (my choice) more maintenance cost and Turf more upfront cost. Each will have own pros and cons. I am from the old school, sports play on grass (this is So Cal!). I think it would be cool if we were known for having one of or if not the best field in college. This maybe is a good question for the medical/biomedical experts, never really looked into the (REAL) numbers on which is better/safer or which the players and coaches like. (needs vs wants?) I am not that up on the latest technology and pricing on fields these days so this is way above my pay-grade, i just know that this field is going to used by more then just football. If I remember correctly a while back, we had the same conversation/thread.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 13, 2020 11:41:44 GMT -8
We gonna have natural grass at Aztec stadium? If you want soccer then you better. Anyway, stupid to have the fake stuff in SoCal. We just want to make sure we are not as close to the water the as the current stadium and, hopefully, the design a good drainage system. With the stadium situated in the NW corner of the property (the only part of the property that didn't flood in 2010 the day before the Poinsettia Bowl), flooding shouldn't be an issue.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 13, 2020 11:47:44 GMT -8
If you want soccer then you better. Anyway, stupid to have the fake stuff in SoCal. We just want to make sure we are not as close to the water the as the current stadium and, hopefully, the design a good drainage system. Bigger issue will be for budget of ground crew, natural grass (my choice) more maintenance cost and Turf more upfront cost. Each will have own pros and cons. I am from the old school, sports play on grass (this is So Cal!). I think it would be cool if we were known for having one of or if not the best field in college. This maybe is a good question for the medical/biomedical experts, never really looked into the (REAL) numbers on which is better/safer or which the players and coaches like. (needs vs wants?) I am not that up on the latest technology and pricing on fields these days so this is way above my pay-grade, i just know that this field is going to used by more then just football. If I remember correctly a while back, we had the same conversation/thread. Agree with Den60. If you don't have natural grass, you can forget having international friendlies in soccer. I would think some of the better worldwide teams, playing tune-up matches before their season started overseas, would be great draws in the new stadium. And after seeing the occasional match on the Sportsdeck, I am amazed at how good that field looks. I would think SDSU would have no trouble maintaining an excellent grass field for the new stadium.
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Post by robthevol on Jun 13, 2020 12:23:44 GMT -8
With JMI in the development, I don't think you need to worry about the status of soccer. John Moores is a huge soccer fan.
He doesn't own a team currently. But when he does it won't be a bottom rung shoestring operation. The new stadium would generate rent from a major soccer team and, as an SDSU supporter, could pick up maintenance costs of turf or whatever is appropriate for both sports.
Rumor had it, many years ago, Moores was offered the opportunity to purchase an NFL franchise and said "No". The NFL was shocked. Moores felt football had maxed and soccer was the future.
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