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Post by fisher1fan on Jun 8, 2020 8:55:38 GMT -8
I wonder if fisherfan1 goes around town in a horse and buggy??!!? LOL Lol I moved outside of East Village so I could walk to downtown and to the trolley and take it the rest of the way to work and games. (Yes, I have a car.) While mass transportation takes longer sometimes; it can be more relaxin and safer. Yes the stadium largely is bad. However there is value to retaining things that people view as unnecessary. (Example: Western Metal Building at Petco) Personally I loooove the sloped ramps that allow massive amounts of people to walk up to the view level! I enjoyed playing and running on them as a child and enjoy not having to line up for an escalator. Even small things can add value, reduce waste, and retain history or memories. Just because a few people deem the building not worth restoring (which might be), it doesn’t mean that it is entirely trash. I’m supportive of the new development, but I’d make changes (as I’m sure most would). It isn’t a “stadium” approval. It is a campus expansion and commercial development approval. A stadium is a very small component.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 8, 2020 9:28:10 GMT -8
I wonder if fisherfan1 goes around town in a horse and buggy??!!? LOL Lol I moved outside of East Village so I could walk to downtown and to the trolley and take it the rest of the way to work and games. (Yes, I have a car.) While mass transportation takes longer sometimes; it can be more relaxin and safer. Yes the stadium largely is bad. However there is value to retaining things that people view as unnecessary. (Example: Western Metal Building at Petco) Personally I loooove the sloped ramps that allow massive amounts of people to walk up to the view level! I enjoyed playing and running on them as a child and enjoy not having to line up for an escalator. Even small things can add value, reduce waste, and retain history or memories. Just because a few people deem the building not worth restoring (which might be), it doesn’t mean that it is entirely trash. I’m supportive of the new development, but I’d make changes (as I’m sure most would). It isn’t a “stadium” approval. It is a campus expansion and commercial development approval. A stadium is a very small component. The old stadium isn't entirely trash. The A/C in the Club Level lounges works pretty well (when someone remembers to turn it on).
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Post by SuperAztec on Jun 8, 2020 13:45:28 GMT -8
Lol I moved outside of East Village so I could walk to downtown and to the trolley and take it the rest of the way to work and games. (Yes, I have a car.) While mass transportation takes longer sometimes; it can be more relaxin and safer. Yes the stadium largely is bad. However there is value to retaining things that people view as unnecessary. (Example: Western Metal Building at Petco) Personally I loooove the sloped ramps that allow massive amounts of people to walk up to the view level! I enjoyed playing and running on them as a child and enjoy not having to line up for an escalator. Even small things can add value, reduce waste, and retain history or memories. Just because a few people deem the building not worth restoring (which might be), it doesn’t mean that it is entirely trash. I’m supportive of the new development, but I’d make changes (as I’m sure most would). It isn’t a “stadium” approval. It is a campus expansion and commercial development approval. A stadium is a very small component. The old stadium isn't entirely trash. The A/C in the Club Level lounges works pretty well (when someone remembers to turn it on). I took my first trip to Dallas to see the Cowboys in around 2004, pre-Jerry World. As a lifetime Cowboy fan I was super excited to go....and then driving up to the Stadium I was like your kidding that's it? The inside was worse. It was falling apart. Joke of a stadium for 5 Time SB champs. Now, I have been to Jerry world 5 times and it never gets old. You would be hard pressed in Dallas to find anyone that misses the old stadium except for maybe the folks in city of Irving. I respect you take on this but IMO, anyone under 40 won't miss the place (or maybe even under 50) Sure there might be some way to incorporate some of the "Murph" into the new stadium, but why? Its where we played our games but it was never our home. Sure we all made some great and some bad memories there but its time to move on.
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Post by sdcoug on Jun 8, 2020 14:31:57 GMT -8
The old stadium isn't entirely trash. The A/C in the Club Level lounges works pretty well (when someone remembers to turn it on). I took my first trip to Dallas to see the Cowboys in around 2004, pre-Jerry World. As a lifetime Cowboy fan I was super excited to go....and then driving up to the Stadium I was like your kidding that's it? The inside was worse. It was falling apart. Joke of a stadium for 5 Time SB champs. Now, I have been to Jerry world 5 times and it never gets old. You would be hard pressed in Dallas to find anyone that misses the old stadium except for maybe the folks in city of Irving. I respect you take on this but IMO, anyone under 40 won't miss the place (or maybe even under 50) Sure there might be some way to incorporate some of the "Murph" into the new stadium, but why? Its where we played our games but it was never our home. Sure we all made some great and some bad memories there but its time to move on. I don't know what's more impressive - Jerry's "World" (stadium) or Jerry's city (Frisco)? Both are pretty amazing. Hopefully Mission Valley becomes Aztec city, much like Frisco.
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Post by standiego on Jun 8, 2020 15:49:26 GMT -8
Thought most people were saying the inner structure below the current facility was in terrible shape and on its last legs
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Post by jp92grad on Jun 8, 2020 16:31:24 GMT -8
Thought most people were saying the inner structure below the current facility was in terrible shape and on its last legs The Bowels of the stadium were and are a joke and there is nothing worth saving. It a shame for the players of the past but time moves on. I hope that nothing in brought over* that has any connection to the old stadium, sorry for saying that. I want to see nothing to do with the Chargers or Padres they never did anything to really help the Aztecs or the University in any way. I am still a fan of the San Diego chargers (not that other team), NOT a fan on the ownership. Still a San Diego Padres fan but they moved on and never looked back at the old stadium and didn't care about the Aztecs one bit even with Tony around. This is a SDSU thing now not a multi purpose San Diego Stadium anymore. The city can use it but first and foremost it's SDSU's *I hope they have some type of Seance to rid the area of the bad JUJU from the Spanos crowd prior to opening the new field.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 8, 2020 17:32:05 GMT -8
Thought most people were saying the inner structure below the current facility was in terrible shape and on its last legs They were saying that because it is.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 8, 2020 17:36:34 GMT -8
The old stadium isn't entirely trash. The A/C in the Club Level lounges works pretty well (when someone remembers to turn it on). I took my first trip to Dallas to see the Cowboys in around 2004, pre-Jerry World. As a lifetime Cowboy fan I was super excited to go....and then driving up to the Stadium I was like your kidding that's it? The inside was worse. It was falling apart. Joke of a stadium for 5 Time SB champs. Now, I have been to Jerry world 5 times and it never gets old. You would be hard pressed in Dallas to find anyone that misses the old stadium except for maybe the folks in city of Irving. I respect you take on this but IMO, anyone under 40 won't miss the place (or maybe even under 50) Sure there might be some way to incorporate some of the "Murph" into the new stadium, but why? Its where we played our games but it was never our home. Sure we all made some great and some bad memories there but its time to move on. Have never seen a game at JerryWorld, but took the tour. After standing on the field, I now know why you would always see players on the sideline look up. The video board is massive. The rest of the place (at least the parts we saw) was very nice indeed.
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Post by fowl on Jun 8, 2020 17:46:10 GMT -8
Thought most people were saying the inner structure below the current facility was in terrible shape and on its last legs Still a San Diego Padres fan but they moved on and never looked back at the old stadium and didn't care about the Aztecs one bit even with Tony around. I don't think that is a fair characterization of Padres ownership groups. John Moores donated a bunch of money to SDSU to build the baseball stadium on campus (and made sure it was named after Tony) and Fowler has donated quite a bit of money and our business school is named after him. Moores was going to donate more money to SDSU but the idiot editorial board of the Daily Aztec decided to write an attack piece on him that was really unfounded. It pissed Moores off and he vowed at the time to never donate another dime. That was over two decades ago and time seems have healed the wound thankfully.
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Post by jp92grad on Jun 8, 2020 18:04:23 GMT -8
Still a San Diego Padres fan but they moved on and never looked back at the old stadium and didn't care about the Aztecs one bit even with Tony around. I don't think that is a fair characterization of Padres ownership groups. John Moores donated a bunch of money to SDSU to build the baseball stadium on campus (and made sure it was named after Tony) and Fowler has donated quite a bit of money and our business school is named after him. Moores was going to donate more money to SDSU but the idiot editorial board of the Daily Aztec decided to write an attack piece on him that was really unfounded. It pissed Moores off and he vowed at the time to never donate another dime. That was over two decades ago and time seems have healed the wound thankfully. I stand corrected, thank you for pointing out my mistake. I was just caught up in the moment of hating on the owners of the old NFL team in San Diego.
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Post by fowl on Jun 8, 2020 19:52:39 GMT -8
I don't think that is a fair characterization of Padres ownership groups. John Moores donated a bunch of money to SDSU to build the baseball stadium on campus (and made sure it was named after Tony) and Fowler has donated quite a bit of money and our business school is named after him. Moores was going to donate more money to SDSU but the idiot editorial board of the Daily Aztec decided to write an attack piece on him that was really unfounded. It pissed Moores off and he vowed at the time to never donate another dime. That was over two decades ago and time seems have healed the wound thankfully. I stand corrected, thank you for pointing out my mistake. I was just caught up in the moment of hating on the owners of the old NFL team in San Diego. I’m with you there. They were the antithesis of Moores in every way.
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Post by redaztec5150 on Jun 9, 2020 9:04:36 GMT -8
I don't think that is a fair characterization of Padres ownership groups. John Moores donated a bunch of money to SDSU to build the baseball stadium on campus (and made sure it was named after Tony) and Fowler has donated quite a bit of money and our business school is named after him. Moores was going to donate more money to SDSU but the idiot editorial board of the Daily Aztec decided to write an attack piece on him that was really unfounded. It pissed Moores off and he vowed at the time to never donate another dime. That was over two decades ago and time seems have healed the wound thankfully. I stand corrected, thank you for pointing out my mistake. I was just caught up in the moment of hating on the owners of the old NFL team in San Diego. Also, Aztecs played first game at Petco Park against University of Houston Cougars (John Moores alma mater); in my recollection, the Padres have always been a good partner to the Aztecs.
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Post by fisher1fan on Jun 9, 2020 10:00:21 GMT -8
I stand corrected, thank you for pointing out my mistake. I was just caught up in the moment of hating on the owners of the old NFL team in San Diego. Also, Aztecs played first game at Petco Park against University of Houston Cougars (John Moores alma mater); in my recollection, the Padres have always been a good partner to the Aztecs. basketball USD and SDSU at Petco
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Post by panammaniac on Jun 9, 2020 10:53:09 GMT -8
It will be a sad day for many of us when the old stadium falls. Many of us grew up going to games there. I estimate that I've probably been to well over 1000 events in San Diego Stadium / The Murph / Qualcomm / SDCCU over the years between Padres, Chargers, SDSU, Holiday Bowl (every single one of them), and other non-sports events. I attended both All Star Games, two World Series games, several other Padres playoff games, and some of the most epic college bowl games in history there. I was there when Ray Kroc took over the mic in the middle of a ballgame to go on his little tirade about how bad the baseball was and promised changes (and got interrupted by a streaker in the process). I was a little one then, but I vividly remember it. I was there when The Famous Chicken made his first ever appearance, then as a drunk SDSU frat boy doing a PR stunt for KGB Radio. There are memories in that place that you can't replicate in a new building. However, just like the old Yankee Stadium, the House that Ruth Built, was demolished, it is also time for this old girl to go. In with the new, out with the old, but not without some sadness.
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Post by aardvark on Jun 9, 2020 12:03:48 GMT -8
Also, Aztecs played first game at Petco Park against University of Houston Cougars (John Moores alma mater); in my recollection, the Padres have always been a good partner to the Aztecs. basketball USD and SDSU at Petco THAT was a mistake.
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Post by aztech on Jun 9, 2020 16:19:46 GMT -8
It will be a sad day for many of us when the old stadium falls. Many of us grew up going to games there. I estimate that I've probably been to well over 1000 events in San Diego Stadium / The Murph / Qualcomm / SDCCU over the years between Padres, Chargers, SDSU, Holiday Bowl (every single one of them), and other non-sports events. I attended both All Star Games, two World Series games, several other Padres playoff games, and some of the most epic college bowl games in history there. I was there when Ray Kroc took over the mic in the middle of a ballgame to go on his little tirade about how bad the baseball was and promised changes (and got interrupted by a streaker in the process). I was a little one then, but I vividly remember it. I was there when The Famous Chicken made his first ever appearance, then as a drunk SDSU frat boy doing a PR stunt for KGB Radio. There are memories in that place that you can't replicate in a new building. However, just like the old Yankee Stadium, the House that Ruth Built, was demolished, it is also time for this old girl to go. In with the new, out with the old, but not without some sadness. Well, for the sake of nostalgia we could always consider keeping half of it standing like the Aztec Bowl. LOL
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Post by aardvark on Jun 9, 2020 16:33:00 GMT -8
It will be a sad day for many of us when the old stadium falls. Many of us grew up going to games there. I estimate that I've probably been to well over 1000 events in San Diego Stadium / The Murph / Qualcomm / SDCCU over the years between Padres, Chargers, SDSU, Holiday Bowl (every single one of them), and other non-sports events. I attended both All Star Games, two World Series games, several other Padres playoff games, and some of the most epic college bowl games in history there. I was there when Ray Kroc took over the mic in the middle of a ballgame to go on his little tirade about how bad the baseball was and promised changes (and got interrupted by a streaker in the process). I was a little one then, but I vividly remember it. I was there when The Famous Chicken made his first ever appearance, then as a drunk SDSU frat boy doing a PR stunt for KGB Radio. There are memories in that place that you can't replicate in a new building. However, just like the old Yankee Stadium, the House that Ruth Built, was demolished, it is also time for this old girl to go. In with the new, out with the old, but not without some sadness. Well, for the sake of nostalgia we could always consider keeping half of it standing like the Aztec Bowl. LOL Take some of the broken-up concrete and use it for flood control on another part of the site.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jun 10, 2020 7:13:47 GMT -8
Northwest is correct. You can see that in this rendering.
Thanks for that. I guess I was thinking of the original proposal. Makes more sense on the west side anyway - further away from the giant fuel tanks. Northwest corner is the highest point of the property. Best to start there so the rest of the site can be lifted out of the flood plane when the grading begins.
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Post by SDSU-Alum2003 on Jun 10, 2020 7:20:22 GMT -8
Well, for the sake of nostalgia we could always consider keeping half of it standing like the Aztec Bowl. LOL Take some of the broken-up concrete and use it for flood control on another part of the site. That is exactly what is going to happen.
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Post by missiontrails on Jun 10, 2020 8:24:58 GMT -8
Take some of the broken-up concrete and use it for flood control on another part of the site. That is exactly what is going to happen. So on game day, for those who don't already reside there or take the trolley in, where do the cars go? Will we need an adjacent parking garage, off-site - but within walking distance? I'm assuming those designated tailgating areas are for foot traffic.
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