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Post by johneaztec on May 5, 2020 23:52:53 GMT -8
You posted this but conveniently forget to add your favorite CNN guy Anderson Cooper who said this on March 4th. “Get a grippe, America. The flu is a much bigger threat than coronavirus, for now.” “if you’re freaked out about the Coronavirus you should be more concerned about the flu.” Just thought I would bring it up seeing how you like to bring up one sided stuff from the past and mysteriously forget what the liberal media was saying as well while calling the President a Xenophob. get a job! That was not appropriate at this point in time. Sheesh. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 7:41:26 GMT -8
Will he quit? No, he's a narcissist who truly believes he's doing a great job at leading the country. He's an exceptional cultivator of dissention, hate and divide which the majority of his base absorbs with the energy of a million suns. The people that were/are going to vote for him don't care about his moral compass, he can do wrong in their eyes. He polls consistently well with the uneducated, while there is no viable candidate to oppose him on the other side.
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Post by ptsdthor on May 6, 2020 8:11:56 GMT -8
Will he quit? No, he's a narcissist who truly believes he's doing a great job at leading the country. He's an exceptional cultivator of dissention, hate and divide which the majority of his base absorbs with the energy of a million suns. The people that were/are going to vote for him don't care about his moral compass, he can do wrong in their eyes. He polls consistently well with the uneducated, while there is no viable candidate to oppose him on the other side. A narcissist as is almost every national politician or pronounced public figure who believes they are doing a great job (it goes hand in hand). If "cultivating division" means sticking up for your agenda without compromise and ignoring the opposition, that was Obama's claim to fame first. Reagan compromised with O'Neill, GHWB lost re-election because he gave in on tax increases, Bill Clinton "triangulated" on GOP issues and GWB actually tried to pass Immigration Reform, for example. Even Trump has compromised with the Dems on any number of items to halt the shutdowns. And as far as a politician's moral compass, how can anyone who voted for the Clintons, for example, give out lectures on regarding politicians with a moral compass? And from the sexual assault claim and the obvious corruption seen with Joe Biden, please spare us that argument going forward. We didn't elect Trump as our confessor. And speaking of uneducated, the Democrats absolutely rely on the low information voter swayed primarily by social media. From Wikipedia "Low-information voters are less likely to vote and when they do they generally vote for a candidate they find personally appealing". The proverbial swing voter in a purple district that Democrats love - an under educated single issue voter asking "do I personally like them?" and not concerned with the variety of public policy issues that affects them most personally. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 8:23:26 GMT -8
Will he quit? No, he's a narcissist who truly believes he's doing a great job at leading the country. He's an exceptional cultivator of dissention, hate and divide which the majority of his base absorbs with the energy of a million suns. The people that were/are going to vote for him don't care about his moral compass, he can do wrong in their eyes. He polls consistently well with the uneducated, while there is no viable candidate to oppose him on the other side. A narcissist as is almost every national politician or pronounced public figure who believes they are doing a great job (it goes hand in hand). If "cultivating division" means sticking up for your agenda without compromise and ignoring the opposition, that was Obama's claim to fame first. Reagan compromised with O'Neill, GHWB lost re-election because he gave in on tax increases, Bill Clinton "triangulated" on GOP issues and GWB actually tried to pass Immigration Reform, for example. Even Trump has compromised with the Dems on any number of items to halt the shutdowns. And as far as a politician's moral compass, how can anyone who voted for the Clintons, for example, give out lectures on regarding politicians with a moral compass? And from the sexual assault claim and the obvious corruption seen with Joe Biden, please spare us that argument going forward. We didn't elect Trump as our confessor. And speaking of uneducated, the Democrats absolutely rely on the low information voter swayed primarily by social media. From Wikipedia "Low-information voters are less likely to vote and when they do they generally vote for a candidate they find personally appealing". The proverbial swing voter in a purple district that Democrats love - an under educated single issue voter asking "do I personally like them?" and not concerned with the variety of public policy issues that affects them most personally. You probably shouldn't quote Wikipedia if you have a serious argument. No, cultivating division means pandering to a base of people who largely fall into the same bucket, galvanizing a movement with "Patriots" that do nothing but promote civil unrest and chaos. Aside from the dangerous rhetoric the president promotes, he ignores public safety orders (as does his VP) and endangers the public while in the midst of a crisis. Donald Trump doesn't care about anything other than Donald Trump. |
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Post by ptsdthor on May 6, 2020 9:45:55 GMT -8
A narcissist as is almost every national politician or pronounced public figure who believes they are doing a great job (it goes hand in hand). If "cultivating division" means sticking up for your agenda without compromise and ignoring the opposition, that was Obama's claim to fame first. Reagan compromised with O'Neill, GHWB lost re-election because he gave in on tax increases, Bill Clinton "triangulated" on GOP issues and GWB actually tried to pass Immigration Reform, for example. Even Trump has compromised with the Dems on any number of items to halt the shutdowns. And as far as a politician's moral compass, how can anyone who voted for the Clintons, for example, give out lectures on regarding politicians with a moral compass? And from the sexual assault claim and the obvious corruption seen with Joe Biden, please spare us that argument going forward. We didn't elect Trump as our confessor. And speaking of uneducated, the Democrats absolutely rely on the low information voter swayed primarily by social media. From Wikipedia "Low-information voters are less likely to vote and when they do they generally vote for a candidate they find personally appealing". The proverbial swing voter in a purple district that Democrats love - an under educated single issue voter asking "do I personally like them?" and not concerned with the variety of public policy issues that affects them most personally. You probably shouldn't quote Wikipedia if you have a serious argument. No, cultivating division means pandering to a base of people who largely fall into the same bucket, galvanizing a movement with "Patriots" that do nothing but promote civil unrest and chaos. Aside from the dangerous rhetoric the president promotes, he ignores public safety orders (as does his VP) and endangers the public while in the midst of a crisis. Donald Trump doesn't care about anything other than Donald Trump. So with Obama being able to galvanize a base to the point where police were being assasinated, that is peachy? Hypocrisy and identity politics are the core of the Democrat party. If they accuse their opponents of something, especially racial division, know they do it themselves first and better. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 9:50:31 GMT -8
Will he quit? No, he's a narcissist who truly believes he's doing a great job at leading the country. He's an exceptional cultivator of dissention, hate and divide which the majority of his base absorbs with the energy of a million suns. The people that were/are going to vote for him don't care about his moral compass, he can do wrong in their eyes. He polls consistently well with the uneducated, while there is no viable candidate to oppose him on the other side. Just the usual hyperbole that the far left liberals continue to claim. Hate and divide. See the mainstream media and the Establishment on both sides for that. They want it this way so they can continue to fleece the American people. Why haven't any of the Trump haters addressed the hypocrisy from the liberal media regarding the downplaying of Covid-19 as late as March? There's plenty of video and news clippings showing them doing just that. Or where's the criticism about the NY leadership completely botching their response. The evidence is there, but somehow and conveniently it doesn't get mentioned by the biased media. Coumo is a saint according to Democrats and the liberal media. What about all the liberals sympathizing with the CCP to spite the President? Or how about the media's covering a seemly inept Joe Bidens sexual asault accusations? What a joke!! And again, with the uneducated go to. How original. I've come to conclusion that many on the far left are nothing but sheep and actually as a whole are a gullible uneducated group. Especially young progressives that don't vote, don't do anything really but whine about everything. They beat people up who support America first. The you work I eat mentality. They believe anything the media tells them. Screw American citizens over, but somehow people here illegally have shelter, food and access to health care and maybe stimulus money. 200,000 homeless in corupt California but who cares about them!! One track minds. And as far as leading the country, the President was doing pretty well before this pandemic and the Establishment Left hated it. They went after him before he even took office. And all your mentioning of inequality, unfair wages (I agree) and whatever else from your other posts to discredit the President during good economic times, yet there hasn't been a President or any wealthy elected officials in decades to stop what you're bitching about. They just buy elections. Let's not forget before this pandemic, over 60 percent of Americans said they were better off since Trump took office. That included many Democrats. How soon you forget. People like you and the flock blame Trump for everything. But support the President during some of the worst times this country and parts of the world has seen and somehow we are uneducated cult members. More originality. Conquer and divide is the mission of the far left. And they want power so bad, they're willing to destroy the country's economy to obtain it. Trump is strong, he cares about the American people regardless of what you and the media says and is not quiting. When this $#!+ show is over, things better change, or you can bet it's going to get real messy. Meanwhile, keep drinking the Cool-Aid. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 10:06:05 GMT -8
Will he quit? No, he's a narcissist who truly believes he's doing a great job at leading the country. He's an exceptional cultivator of dissention, hate and divide which the majority of his base absorbs with the energy of a million suns. The people that were/are going to vote for him don't care about his moral compass, he can do wrong in their eyes. He polls consistently well with the uneducated, while there is no viable candidate to oppose him on the other side. Just the usual hyperbole that the far left liberals continue to claim. Hate and divide. See the mainstream media and the Establishment on both sides for that. They want it this way so they can continue to fleece the American people. Why hasn't one of you Trump haters addressed the hypocrisy from the liberal media regarding the downplaying of Covid-19 as late as March? There's plenty of video and news clippings showing them doing just that. Or where's the criticism about the NY leadership completely botching their response. The evidence is there, but somehow and conveniently it doesn't get mentioned by the biased media. Coumo is a saint according to Democrats and the liberal media. What about all the liberals sympathizing with the CCP to spite the President? Or how about the media's covering a seemly inept Joe Bidens sexual asault accusations? What a joke!! And again, with the uneducated go to. How original. I've come to conclusion that many on the far left are nothing but sheep and actually as a whole are a gullible uneducated group. Especially young progressives that don't vote, don't do anything really but whine about everything. They beat people up who support America first. The you work I eat mentality. They believe anything the media tells them. Screw American citizens over, but somehow people here illegally have shelter, food and access to health care and maybe stimulus money. 200,000 homeless in corupt California but who cares about them!! One track minds. And as far as leading the country, the President was doing pretty well before this pandemic and the Establishment Left hated it. They went after him before he even took office. And all your mentioning of inequality, unfair wages (I agree) and whatever else from your other posts to discredit the President during good economic times, yet there hasn't been a President or any wealthy elected officials in decades to stop what you're bitching about. They just buy elections. Let's not forget before this pandemic, over 60 percent of Americans said they were better off since Trump took office. That included many Democrats. How soon you forget. People like you and the flock blame Trump for everything. But support the President during some of the worsts times this country and parts of the world has seen and somehow we are uneducated cult members. More originality. Conquer and divide is the mission of the far left. And they want power so bad, they're willing to destroy the country's economy to obtain it. Trump is strong and not quiting. When this $#!+ show is over, things better change, or you can bet it's going to get real messy. Meanwhile, keep drinking the Cool-Aid. I thought you were a moderate? I'm not a Trump hater in the TDS oversimplified mold, but a person who has disdain for the principles his base promotes. Key notation there. I could care less about the mainstream media, it has zero to do with my argument. But if you want to argue hypocrisy, there is a metric ton of videos of Hannity and others lying through their teeth as well - Again, this isn't about the media, it's about the facts. The uneducated isn't a go to, it's a polling metric. Trump's approval rating with non-college educated whites is very high, compared to sub-40% in the opposite category (as of a couple weeks ago). And yes, to get to the crux of the argument, you're right. Supporting the president (who doesn't care about you, me or anyone else) during these times is pretty troubling. America needs a leader, not a person who acts like a mafia boss trying to extort states in the middle of a pandemic. I want to make one thing very clear since you bring up the same tired and inaccurate thoughts : I don't blame the president for everything. In fact, largely before this crisis started, I was indifferent to the person in office. Unfortunately, patterns have emerged. Downright psychotic behavior on social media, attacking governors, promoting social unrest, lying to the public about testing availability, disregarding public safety orders (Pence in the Mayo Clinic, the president just yesterday in Arizona not wearing a mask), discontinuing social distancing guidelines, ending the task force while cases and deaths continue to rise, just to name a half dozen. It's ironic that you mention destroying the economy, because if the Republican Party wanted to save it, they'd actually put money in the hands of people, not multi-billion dollar corporations who furloughed or fired workers after they received their bailouts. Both parties are terrible. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 10:39:51 GMT -8
Just the usual hyperbole that the far left liberals continue to claim. Hate and divide. See the mainstream media and the Establishment on both sides for that. They want it this way so they can continue to fleece the American people. Why hasn't one of you Trump haters addressed the hypocrisy from the liberal media regarding the downplaying of Covid-19 as late as March? There's plenty of video and news clippings showing them doing just that. Or where's the criticism about the NY leadership completely botching their response. The evidence is there, but somehow and conveniently it doesn't get mentioned by the biased media. Coumo is a saint according to Democrats and the liberal media. What about all the liberals sympathizing with the CCP to spite the President? Or how about the media's covering a seemly inept Joe Bidens sexual asault accusations? What a joke!! And again, with the uneducated go to. How original. I've come to conclusion that many on the far left are nothing but sheep and actually as a whole are a gullible uneducated group. Especially young progressives that don't vote, don't do anything really but whine about everything. They beat people up who support America first. The you work I eat mentality. They believe anything the media tells them. Screw American citizens over, but somehow people here illegally have shelter, food and access to health care and maybe stimulus money. 200,000 homeless in corupt California but who cares about them!! One track minds. And as far as leading the country, the President was doing pretty well before this pandemic and the Establishment Left hated it. They went after him before he even took office. And all your mentioning of inequality, unfair wages (I agree) and whatever else from your other posts to discredit the President during good economic times, yet there hasn't been a President or any wealthy elected officials in decades to stop what you're bitching about. They just buy elections. Let's not forget before this pandemic, over 60 percent of Americans said they were better off since Trump took office. That included many Democrats. How soon you forget. People like you and the flock blame Trump for everything. But support the President during some of the worsts times this country and parts of the world has seen and somehow we are uneducated cult members. More originality. Conquer and divide is the mission of the far left. And they want power so bad, they're willing to destroy the country's economy to obtain it. Trump is strong and not quiting. When this $#!+ show is over, things better change, or you can bet it's going to get real messy. Meanwhile, keep drinking the Cool-Aid. I thought you were a moderate? I'm not a Trump hater in the TDS oversimplified mold, but a person who has disdain for the principles his base promotes. Key notation there. I could care less about the mainstream media, it has zero to do with my argument. But if you want to argue hypocrisy, there is a metric ton of videos of Hannity and others lying through their teeth as well - Again, this isn't about the media, it's about the facts. The uneducated isn't a go to, it's a polling metric. Trump's approval rating with non-college educated whites is very high, compared to sub-40% in the opposite category (as of a couple weeks ago). And yes, to get to the crux of the argument, you're right. Supporting the president (who doesn't care about you, me or anyone else) during these times is pretty troubling. America needs a leader, not a person who acts like a mafia boss trying to extort states in the middle of a pandemic. I want to make one thing very clear since you bring up the same tired and inaccurate thoughts : I don't blame the president for everything. In fact, largely before this crisis started, I was indifferent to the person in office. Unfortunately, patterns have emerged. Downright psychotic behavior on social media, attacking governors, promoting social unrest, lying to the public about testing availability, disregarding public safety orders (Pence in the Mayo Clinic, the president just yesterday in Arizona not wearing a mask), discontinuing social distancing guidelines, ending the task force while cases and deaths continue to rise, just to name a half dozen. It's ironic that you mention destroying the economy, because if the Republican Party wanted to save it, they'd actually put money in the hands of people, not multi-billion dollar corporations who furloughed or fired workers after they received their bailouts. Both parties are terrible. A polling metric. 🙄 And you are absolutely a Trump hater whether you deny it or not. In regards to your moderate question, I mentioned my disdain for Establishment on both sides and have stated that multiple times throughout many of my posts. LMFAO at all those college educated progressives that get their education from mostly liberal universities but can't do a simple math problem without the help of their dumb phones. Yet they are somehow smarter than people who support the President during a crises. Take a look at where The U.S. ranks in literacy and mathematics in the developing world since Generation X. I'll make it easy, it's at the bottom. Like I stated, young progressives historically don't vote anyway. But they do complain and have a lot of opinions though. Oh, I got a kick out of your there's people lying to the public on social media in your post. No kidding? Drink up!! |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 10:45:52 GMT -8
I thought you were a moderate? I'm not a Trump hater in the TDS oversimplified mold, but a person who has disdain for the principles his base promotes. Key notation there. I could care less about the mainstream media, it has zero to do with my argument. But if you want to argue hypocrisy, there is a metric ton of videos of Hannity and others lying through their teeth as well - Again, this isn't about the media, it's about the facts. The uneducated isn't a go to, it's a polling metric. Trump's approval rating with non-college educated whites is very high, compared to sub-40% in the opposite category (as of a couple weeks ago). And yes, to get to the crux of the argument, you're right. Supporting the president (who doesn't care about you, me or anyone else) during these times is pretty troubling. America needs a leader, not a person who acts like a mafia boss trying to extort states in the middle of a pandemic. I want to make one thing very clear since you bring up the same tired and inaccurate thoughts : I don't blame the president for everything. In fact, largely before this crisis started, I was indifferent to the person in office. Unfortunately, patterns have emerged. Downright psychotic behavior on social media, attacking governors, promoting social unrest, lying to the public about testing availability, disregarding public safety orders (Pence in the Mayo Clinic, the president just yesterday in Arizona not wearing a mask), discontinuing social distancing guidelines, ending the task force while cases and deaths continue to rise, just to name a half dozen. It's ironic that you mention destroying the economy, because if the Republican Party wanted to save it, they'd actually put money in the hands of people, not multi-billion dollar corporations who furloughed or fired workers after they received their bailouts. Both parties are terrible. A polling metric. 🙄 And you are absolutely a Trump hater whether you deny it or not. In regards to your moderate question, I mentioned my disdain for Establishment on both sides and have stated that multiple times throughout many of my posts. LMFAO at all those college educated progressives that get their education from mostly liberal universities but can't do a simple math problem without the help of their dumb phones. Yet they are somehow smarter than people who the support the President during a crises. Take a look at where The U.S. ranks in literacy and mathematics in the developing world since Generation X. I'll make it easy, it's at the bottom. Like I stated, young progressives historically don't vote anyway. But they do complain and have a lot of opinions though. Oh, I got a kick out of your there's people lying to the public on social media in your post. No kidding? Drink up!! Yes, a polling metric. news.gallup.com/poll/205832/race-education-gender-key-factors-trump-job-approval.aspxIt's in the same general classification as your 60% number (which isn't real, by the way). Being a "Trump hater" is a gross oversimplification. Similar to "Orange Man Bad" in that it applies zero critical thinking or justification beyond that. My disdain, again, is based on the principles the president and administration promote. When are you going to address those, out of curiosity? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 11:03:52 GMT -8
A polling metric. 🙄 And you are absolutely a Trump hater whether you deny it or not. In regards to your moderate question, I mentioned my disdain for Establishment on both sides and have stated that multiple times throughout many of my posts. LMFAO at all those college educated progressives that get their education from mostly liberal universities but can't do a simple math problem without the help of their dumb phones. Yet they are somehow smarter than people who the support the President during a crises. Take a look at where The U.S. ranks in literacy and mathematics in the developing world since Generation X. I'll make it easy, it's at the bottom. Like I stated, young progressives historically don't vote anyway. But they do complain and have a lot of opinions though. Oh, I got a kick out of your there's people lying to the public on social media in your post. No kidding? Drink up!! It's in the same general classification as your 60% number (which isn't real, by the way) Not real? I guess we can add manipulator and one who spreads misinformation on top of being a Trump hater. I don't expect anything less. news.gallup.com/poll/285593/say-better-off-past-elections.aspxwww.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2020/02/13/gallup-poll-says-6-10-americans-feel-better-off-3-years-after-trump/4747228002/ nypost.com/2020/02/12/americans-say-theyre-better-off-under-trump-new-poll-shows/ |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 11:46:39 GMT -8
I stand corrected - Although being "better off" and doing a good job aren't aren't quite the same thing, but the only 60% number I could find was the handling of the virus number from a small sample poll. But I'll go along with that, that's fine. Can you address the rest of my post? |
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Post by uwphoto on May 6, 2020 15:55:30 GMT -8
gimme a break "trump hater". Prolly 50% of America hates Trump. I have perhaps 200 people I can consider friends. You either support trump, or you despise him. So, I know 3 friends who support trump. The rest are professionals in the science community, teachers, lawyers etc. My women friends despise him the most. let me see "blood coming out of her whatever", "Mika bleeding from the face", "look at that face"..and on and on. You guys think its wonderful that he is disliked and tells it like it is...but he generates hatred that America has never seen for a leader. I remember my 3rd grade teacher coming around the corner sobbing after Kennedy got shot...the nation was in mourning..if trump got an aneurysm the reaction might not be the same...and you guys know it...so guilty as charged ..I despise the MF like no one in my 66 years...but I am not alone..and that's exactly how he likes it...gaslight, divide and conquer etc. but please spare us the trump hater $#!+!! Yes, a lot of people hate him..fact not a talking point. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 16:27:50 GMT -8
Just the usual hyperbole that the far left liberals continue to claim. Hate and divide. See the mainstream media and the Establishment on both sides for that. They want it this way so they can continue to fleece the American people. Why hasn't one of you Trump haters addressed the hypocrisy from the liberal media regarding the downplaying of Covid-19 as late as March? There's plenty of video and news clippings showing them doing just that. Or where's the criticism about the NY leadership completely botching their response. The evidence is there, but somehow and conveniently it doesn't get mentioned by the biased media. Coumo is a saint according to Democrats and the liberal media. What about all the liberals sympathizing with the CCP to spite the President? Or how about the media's covering a seemly inept Joe Bidens sexual asault accusations? What a joke!! And again, with the uneducated go to. How original. I've come to conclusion that many on the far left are nothing but sheep and actually as a whole are a gullible uneducated group. Especially young progressives that don't vote, don't do anything really but whine about everything. They beat people up who support America first. The you work I eat mentality. They believe anything the media tells them. Screw American citizens over, but somehow people here illegally have shelter, food and access to health care and maybe stimulus money. 200,000 homeless in corupt California but who cares about them!! One track minds. And as far as leading the country, the President was doing pretty well before this pandemic and the Establishment Left hated it. They went after him before he even took office. And all your mentioning of inequality, unfair wages (I agree) and whatever else from your other posts to discredit the President during good economic times, yet there hasn't been a President or any wealthy elected officials in decades to stop what you're bitching about. They just buy elections. Let's not forget before this pandemic, over 60 percent of Americans said they were better off since Trump took office. That included many Democrats. How soon you forget. People like you and the flock blame Trump for everything. But support the President during some of the worsts times this country and parts of the world has seen and somehow we are uneducated cult members. More originality. Conquer and divide is the mission of the far left. And they want power so bad, they're willing to destroy the country's economy to obtain it. Trump is strong and not quiting. When this $#!+ show is over, things better change, or you can bet it's going to get real messy. Meanwhile, keep drinking the Cool-Aid. I thought you were a moderate? I'm not a Trump hater in the TDS oversimplified mold, but a person who has disdain for the principles his base promotes. Key notation there. I could care less about the mainstream media, it has zero to do with my argument. But if you want to argue hypocrisy, there is a metric ton of videos of Hannity and others lying through their teeth as well - Again, this isn't about the media, it's about the facts. The uneducated isn't a go to, it's a polling metric. Trump's approval rating with non-college educated whites is very high, compared to sub-40% in the opposite category (as of a couple weeks ago). And yes, to get to the crux of the argument, you're right. Supporting the president (who doesn't care about you, me or anyone else) during these times is pretty troubling. America needs a leader, not a person who acts like a mafia boss trying to extort states in the middle of a pandemic. I want to make one thing very clear since you bring up the same tired and inaccurate thoughts : I don't blame the president for everything. In fact, largely before this crisis started, I was indifferent to the person in office. Unfortunately, patterns have emerged. Downright psychotic behavior on social media, attacking governors, promoting social unrest, lying to the public about testing availability, disregarding public safety orders (Pence in the Mayo Clinic, the president just yesterday in Arizona not wearing a mask), discontinuing social distancing guidelines, ending the task force while cases and deaths continue to rise, just to name a half dozen. It's ironic that you mention destroying the economy, because if the Republican Party wanted to save it, they'd actually put money in the hands of people, not multi-billion dollar corporations who furloughed or fired workers after they received their bailouts. Both parties are terrible. You said to me in a post in another thread that you think that Trump is a horrible person. Of course your feelings about him will be blinded when it comes to you admitting that he has done well in many important areas, and that's too bad. That goes for UWphoto as well. I readily admit that I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, and I don't like some of the things he says, but that shouldn't overshadow his accomplishments. |
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Post by uwphoto on May 6, 2020 16:36:00 GMT -8
I thought you were a moderate? I'm not a Trump hater in the TDS oversimplified mold, but a person who has disdain for the principles his base promotes. Key notation there. I could care less about the mainstream media, it has zero to do with my argument. But if you want to argue hypocrisy, there is a metric ton of videos of Hannity and others lying through their teeth as well - Again, this isn't about the media, it's about the facts. The uneducated isn't a go to, it's a polling metric. Trump's approval rating with non-college educated whites is very high, compared to sub-40% in the opposite category (as of a couple weeks ago). And yes, to get to the crux of the argument, you're right. Supporting the president (who doesn't care about you, me or anyone else) during these times is pretty troubling. America needs a leader, not a person who acts like a mafia boss trying to extort states in the middle of a pandemic. I want to make one thing very clear since you bring up the same tired and inaccurate thoughts : I don't blame the president for everything. In fact, largely before this crisis started, I was indifferent to the person in office. Unfortunately, patterns have emerged. Downright psychotic behavior on social media, attacking governors, promoting social unrest, lying to the public about testing availability, disregarding public safety orders (Pence in the Mayo Clinic, the president just yesterday in Arizona not wearing a mask), discontinuing social distancing guidelines, ending the task force while cases and deaths continue to rise, just to name a half dozen. It's ironic that you mention destroying the economy, because if the Republican Party wanted to save it, they'd actually put money in the hands of people, not multi-billion dollar corporations who furloughed or fired workers after they received their bailouts. Both parties are terrible. You said to me in a post in another thread that you think that Trump is a horrible person. Of course your feelings about him will be blinded when it comes to you admitting that he has done well in many important areas, and that's too bad. That goes for UWphoto as well. I readily admit that I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, and I don't like some of the things he says, but that shouldn't overshadow his accomplishments. John, can you please list the "accomplishments" for analysis? Also, do you think he has brought America closer together, or not? |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 17:40:34 GMT -8
I thought you were a moderate? I'm not a Trump hater in the TDS oversimplified mold, but a person who has disdain for the principles his base promotes. Key notation there. I could care less about the mainstream media, it has zero to do with my argument. But if you want to argue hypocrisy, there is a metric ton of videos of Hannity and others lying through their teeth as well - Again, this isn't about the media, it's about the facts. The uneducated isn't a go to, it's a polling metric. Trump's approval rating with non-college educated whites is very high, compared to sub-40% in the opposite category (as of a couple weeks ago). And yes, to get to the crux of the argument, you're right. Supporting the president (who doesn't care about you, me or anyone else) during these times is pretty troubling. America needs a leader, not a person who acts like a mafia boss trying to extort states in the middle of a pandemic. I want to make one thing very clear since you bring up the same tired and inaccurate thoughts : I don't blame the president for everything. In fact, largely before this crisis started, I was indifferent to the person in office. Unfortunately, patterns have emerged. Downright psychotic behavior on social media, attacking governors, promoting social unrest, lying to the public about testing availability, disregarding public safety orders (Pence in the Mayo Clinic, the president just yesterday in Arizona not wearing a mask), discontinuing social distancing guidelines, ending the task force while cases and deaths continue to rise, just to name a half dozen. It's ironic that you mention destroying the economy, because if the Republican Party wanted to save it, they'd actually put money in the hands of people, not multi-billion dollar corporations who furloughed or fired workers after they received their bailouts. Both parties are terrible. You said to me in a post in another thread that you think that Trump is a horrible person. Of course your feelings about him will be blinded when it comes to you admitting that he has done well in many important areas, and that's too bad. That goes for UWphoto as well. I readily admit that I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, and I don't like some of the things he says, but that shouldn't overshadow his accomplishments. I'm an adult. There are plenty of people I dislike. I'm able to separate that disdain and be objective when it comes to matters of importance, such as this one. You keep rehashing "accomplishments"....yet you won't comment on the white nationalism he promotes. The civil unrest and outright danger that he cultivates. Wishing he would tweet less is an OANN sized softball in the midst of what the country is dealing with. For a lot of people, accomplishments begin and end with their own financial standing, which is a gigantic bubble, ignoring the rest of a much larger picture. Unemployment? More job growth under the previous administration, even before the pandemic started. Border wall? Yeah, let's paint that thing black at a cost of 500 million dollars, surely a great way to spend tax dollars during a national emergency. Does the lack of responsibility not bother you? By his own admission, he takes none. Does the quid pro quo of Democratic states not bother you? Surely it isn't the mark of a great leader to be holding PPE hostage in exchange for the states "doing something nice." Does the blaming of the previous administration for things that hadn't been created yet not bother you? I don't expect to get real answers, but it would be nice to dig a little deeper than the surface here. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 18:54:54 GMT -8
gimme a break "trump hater". Prolly 50% of America hates Trump. I have perhaps 200 people I can consider friends. You either support trump, or you despise him. So, I know 3 friends who support trump. The rest are professionals in the science community, teachers, lawyers etc. My women friends despise him the most. let me see "blood coming out of her whatever", "Mika bleeding from the face", "look at that face"..and on and on. You guys think its wonderful that he is disliked and tells it like it is...but he generates hatred that America has never seen for a leader. I remember my 3rd grade teacher coming around the corner sobbing after Kennedy got shot...the nation was in mourning..if trump got an aneurysm the reaction might not be the same...and you guys know it...so guilty as charged ..I despise the MF like no one in my 66 years...but I am not alone..and that's exactly how he likes it...gaslight, divide and conquer etc. but please spare us the trump hater $#!+!! Yes, a lot of people hate him..fact not a talking point. Give me a Break. "uneducated cult member" All you do is twist things when you are shown your hypocrisy with facts and actual quotes from people you support but criticize the President while claiming he downplayed Covid-19. You added the Bundys and emphasized they're from Idaho in another one of your ridiculous rants in another thread. There are a lot of people that hate the Establishment Demecrats as much as you claim to hate Trump. And guess what, I'm one of them. Just look at your buddy who said what I posted wasn't real. When I showed him the facts, he just blows it off with my bad hyperbole. I posted what over 60 percent of Americans thought of Trump and the economy. That was in February mind you and during the beginning of this pandemic. And you and your so called intelligent friends still deny it. There's a lot more coming in the following weeks that are going to expose a lot of so called honest Democrats that you love so much. Get your popcorn ready!! |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 18:58:46 GMT -8
gimme a break "trump hater". Prolly 50% of America hates Trump. I have perhaps 200 people I can consider friends. You either support trump, or you despise him. So, I know 3 friends who support trump. The rest are professionals in the science community, teachers, lawyers etc. My women friends despise him the most. let me see "blood coming out of her whatever", "Mika bleeding from the face", "look at that face"..and on and on. You guys think its wonderful that he is disliked and tells it like it is...but he generates hatred that America has never seen for a leader. I remember my 3rd grade teacher coming around the corner sobbing after Kennedy got shot...the nation was in mourning..if trump got an aneurysm the reaction might not be the same...and you guys know it...so guilty as charged ..I despise the MF like no one in my 66 years...but I am not alone..and that's exactly how he likes it...gaslight, divide and conquer etc. but please spare us the trump hater $#!+!! Yes, a lot of people hate him..fact not a talking point. Give me a Break. "uneducated cult member" All you do is twist things when you are shown your hypocrisy with facts and actual quotes from people you support but criticize the President while claiming he downplayed Covid-19. You added the Bundys and emphasized they're from Idaho in another one of your ridiculous rants in another thread. There are a lot of people that hate the Establishment Demecrats as much as you claim to hate Trump. And guess what, I'm one of them. Just look at your buddy who said what I posted wasn't real. When I showed him the facts, he just blows it off with my bad hyperbole. I posted what over 60 percent of Americans thought of Trump and the economy. That was in February mind you and during the beginning of this pandemic. And you and your so called intelligent friends still deny it. There's a lot more coming in the following weeks that are going to expose a lot of so called honest Democrats that you love so much. Get your popcorn ready!! Bad hyperbole? No, I apologized because what you posted was somewhat true. Meanwhile, you still dodge relevant questions and would rather trade outrage than articulate your position. I realize absolutely nothing is going to change your mind, but why doesn't the empty leadership bother you? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 19:03:34 GMT -8
Give me a Break. "uneducated cult member" All you do is twist things when you are shown your hypocrisy with facts and actual quotes from people you support but criticize the President while claiming he downplayed Covid-19. You added the Bundys and emphasized they're from Idaho in another one of your ridiculous rants in another thread. There are a lot of people that hate the Establishment Demecrats as much as you claim to hate Trump. And guess what, I'm one of them. Just look at your buddy who said what I posted wasn't real. When I showed him the facts, he just blows it off with my bad hyperbole. I posted what over 60 percent of Americans thought of Trump and the economy. That was in February mind you and during the beginning of this pandemic. And you and your so called intelligent friends still deny it. There's a lot more coming in the following weeks that are going to expose a lot of so called honest Democrats that you love so much. Get your popcorn ready!! Bad hyperbole? No, I apologized because what you posted was somewhat true. Meanwhile, you still dodge relevant questions and would rather trade outrage than articulate your position. I realize absolutely nothing is going to change your mind, but why doesn't the empty leadership bother you? Somewhat true? You people are amazing with your twisted denial. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:06:48 GMT -8
Bad hyperbole? No, I apologized because what you posted was somewhat true. Meanwhile, you still dodge relevant questions and would rather trade outrage than articulate your position. I realize absolutely nothing is going to change your mind, but why doesn't the empty leadership bother you? Somewhat true? You people are amazing with your twisted denial. "62 percent of people feel like Trump deserves credit for the economy." Okay, fine. Granted. Now, can you answer the question? |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 19:11:00 GMT -8
Somewhat true? You people are amazing with your twisted denial. "62 percent of people feel like Trump deserves credit for the economy." Okay, fine. Granted. Now, can you answer the question? You have no valid questions, only more hyperbole being fed to you by the media. There is no empty leadership except what the Democrats are doing while trying to destroy the country. |
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