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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:14:28 GMT -8
"62 percent of people feel like Trump deserves credit for the economy." Okay, fine. Granted. Now, can you answer the question? You have no valid questions, only more hyperbole being fed to you by the media. There is no empty leadership except what the Democrats are doing while trying to destroy the country. I don't watch news. I don't get my points from the media. See, this is what happens when you have no ammunition. You just resort to excuses because you can't defend your fandom. For a moderate, I'm disappointed. A valid question : Why did the vice president not wear a mask to the Mayo Clinic? Why is the federal government hijacking state supplies? And most importantly, where is the national rollout strategy? Measured, valid questions. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:22:56 GMT -8
I don't watch news. I don't get my points from the media. See, this is what happens when you have no ammunition. You just resort to excuses because you can't defend your fandom. For a moderate, I'm disappointed. A valid question : Why did the vice president not wear a mask to the Mayo Clinic? Why is the federal government hijacking state supplies? And most importantly, where is the national rollout strategy? Measured, valid questions. 👌 And you can't answer them. Because....MAGA? I'm not going to resort to personal insults, but you're better than this. You owe this sycophant nothing. Take away the media, take away the hyperbole. You're left with a million plus cases, 70,000+ deaths and a president who is actually lauding his own effort. Now, you'll absolve him and blame the media. But those deaths (which will continue through to the end of his presidential term)....they aren't going away. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 19:29:43 GMT -8
And you can't answer them. Because....MAGA? I'm not going to resort to personal insults, but you're better than this. You owe this sycophant nothing. Take away the media, take away the hyperbole. You're left with a million plus cases, 70,000+ deaths and a president who is actually lauding his own effort. Now, you'll absolve him and blame the media. But those deaths (which will continue through to the end of his presidential term)....they aren't going away. 👌 You don't watch the news but are filled with information that only has come from it. You must have a crystal ball. I will ask a question? Why did the Governor of NY not wear a mask while addressing the public and going out in public after he implemented an order requiring it? 🤔 And I already addressed your BS regarding the false claims about the Feds "hijacking" medical supplies. Go back and find it. And it's not a personal attack, it's a fact!! |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:34:08 GMT -8
I don't watch news. I don't get my points from the media. See, this is what happens when you have no ammunition. You just resort to excuses because you can't defend your fandom. For a moderate, I'm disappointed. A valid question : Why did the vice president not wear a mask to the Mayo Clinic? Why is the federal government hijacking state supplies? And most importantly, where is the national rollout strategy? Measured, valid questions. 👌 You don't watch the news but are filled with information that only has come from it. You must have a crystal ball. I will ask a question? Why did the Governor of NY not wear a mask while addressing the public and going out in public after he implemented an order requiring it? 🤔 And I already addressed your BS regarding the false claims about the Feds "hijacking" medical supplies. Go back and find it. Epidemiologists, virologists, medical health professionals....I get the news from them. How they absorb it isn't up to me, but I'm not out here to again talk about the media. I don't know why Cuomo didn't wear a mask, he should have. Why did the vice president at one of the largest hospitals in the country not wear one, then did the next day? Why did the president discontinue the social distancing guidelines after April 30th? These aren't "false claims"....a Massachusetts doctor had his supply seized by DHS. Maryland has a supply under protection by the National Guard. Again, the president doesn't care about you, me or anyone else but his own ego. He consistently uses trigger language that indicates exactly that. This isn't a hill to die on. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 19:36:38 GMT -8
You said to me in a post in another thread that you think that Trump is a horrible person. Of course your feelings about him will be blinded when it comes to you admitting that he has done well in many important areas, and that's too bad. That goes for UWphoto as well. I readily admit that I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, and I don't like some of the things he says, but that shouldn't overshadow his accomplishments. John, can you please list the "accomplishments" for analysis? Also, do you think he has brought America closer together, or not? Lowest unemployment in decades for all races, women, and veterans, more Americans were employed than ever in history, over 4 million jobs created, best economy in decades, moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, etc, etc.... Of course all of this before the pandemic. He's had to make tough decisions including building a wall that has divided the country and he says stupid stuff that I wish he wouldn't. I'm not too up on the environmental issues that you are very passionate about so I won't comment on it. I know you say that you could have fixed the economy as well if you neglected the environmental issues lime Trump has, but I find that hard to believe. We really needed someone to put America first and the country was hungry for this and I believe he has done that. Like I said at the same time, I wish he would keep his trap shut. Also remember, he was never groomed to be a politician so you can go back and find stuff he said in the past that isn't good. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 19:39:19 GMT -8
You said to me in a post in another thread that you think that Trump is a horrible person. Of course your feelings about him will be blinded when it comes to you admitting that he has done well in many important areas, and that's too bad. That goes for UWphoto as well. I readily admit that I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, and I don't like some of the things he says, but that shouldn't overshadow his accomplishments. I'm an adult. There are plenty of people I dislike. I'm able to separate that disdain and be objective when it comes to matters of importance, such as this one. You keep rehashing "accomplishments"....yet you won't comment on the white nationalism he promotes. The civil unrest and outright danger that he cultivates. Wishing he would tweet less is an OANN sized softball in the midst of what the country is dealing with. For a lot of people, accomplishments begin and end with their own financial standing, which is a gigantic bubble, ignoring the rest of a much larger picture. Unemployment? More job growth under the previous administration, even before the pandemic started. Border wall? Yeah, let's paint that thing black at a cost of 500 million dollars, surely a great way to spend tax dollars during a national emergency. Does the lack of responsibility not bother you? By his own admission, he takes none. Does the quid pro quo of Democratic states not bother you? Surely it isn't the mark of a great leader to be holding PPE hostage in exchange for the states "doing something nice." Does the blaming of the previous administration for things that hadn't been created yet not bother you? I don't expect to get real answers, but it would be nice to dig a little deeper than the surface here. Tell me how he promotes white nationalism please? |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:40:45 GMT -8
John, can you please list the "accomplishments" for analysis? Also, do you think he has brought America closer together, or not? Lowest unemployment in decades for all races, women, and veterans, more Americans were employed than ever in history, over 4 million jobs created, best economy in decades, moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, etc, etc.... Of course all of this before the pandemic. He's had to make tough decisions including building a wall that has divided the country and he says stupid stuff that I wish he wouldn't. I'm not too up on the environmental issues that you are very passionate about so I won't comment on it. I know you say that you could have fixed the economy as well if you neglected the environmental issues lime Trump has, but I find that hard to believe. We really needed someone to put America first and the country was hungry for this and I believe he has done that. Like I said at the same time, I wish he would keep his trap shut. Also remember, he was never groomed to be a politician so you can go back and find stuff he said in the past that isn't good. It's incredibly petty, but this is actually from the White House website. Reads like a jilted junior high student. www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/ |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 19:45:11 GMT -8
You said to me in a post in another thread that you think that Trump is a horrible person. Of course your feelings about him will be blinded when it comes to you admitting that he has done well in many important areas, and that's too bad. That goes for UWphoto as well. I readily admit that I wish he wouldn't tweet so much, and I don't like some of the things he says, but that shouldn't overshadow his accomplishments. I'm an adult. There are plenty of people I dislike. I'm able to separate that disdain and be objective when it comes to matters of importance, such as this one. You keep rehashing "accomplishments"....yet you won't comment on the white nationalism he promotes. The civil unrest and outright danger that he cultivates. Wishing he would tweet less is an OANN sized softball in the midst of what the country is dealing with. For a lot of people, accomplishments begin and end with their own financial standing, which is a gigantic bubble, ignoring the rest of a much larger picture. Unemployment? More job growth under the previous administration, even before the pandemic started. Border wall? Yeah, let's paint that thing black at a cost of 500 million dollars, surely a great way to spend tax dollars during a national emergency. Does the lack of responsibility not bother you? By his own admission, he takes none. Does the quid pro quo of Democratic states not bother you? Surely it isn't the mark of a great leader to be holding PPE hostage in exchange for the states "doing something nice." Does the blaming of the previous administration for things that hadn't been created yet not bother you? I don't expect to get real answers, but it would be nice to dig a little deeper than the surface here. Can you not see how the media has hyped up the country by twisting and taking only snippets of his comments? That's clear as day. I know he does say some stupid stuff, but you have to agree that the media is big time against him and they're very powerful and can be very pervasive to the ones that don't try to educate themselves and already have a dislike for him because of things he's said. They just run with it and get hard headed. It happens to both sides. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 19:46:58 GMT -8
Lowest unemployment in decades for all races, women, and veterans, more Americans were employed than ever in history, over 4 million jobs created, best economy in decades, moved the US Embassy to Jerusalem, etc, etc.... Of course all of this before the pandemic. He's had to make tough decisions including building a wall that has divided the country and he says stupid stuff that I wish he wouldn't. I'm not too up on the environmental issues that you are very passionate about so I won't comment on it. I know you say that you could have fixed the economy as well if you neglected the environmental issues lime Trump has, but I find that hard to believe. We really needed someone to put America first and the country was hungry for this and I believe he has done that. Like I said at the same time, I wish he would keep his trap shut. Also remember, he was never groomed to be a politician so you can go back and find stuff he said in the past that isn't good. It's incredibly petty, but this is actually from the White House website. Reads like a jilted junior high student. www.whitehouse.gov/trump-administration-accomplishments/You don't have to go to that site to know about these accomplishments. Are you going to refute them or give the credit to someone else? |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:49:10 GMT -8
I'm an adult. There are plenty of people I dislike. I'm able to separate that disdain and be objective when it comes to matters of importance, such as this one. You keep rehashing "accomplishments"....yet you won't comment on the white nationalism he promotes. The civil unrest and outright danger that he cultivates. Wishing he would tweet less is an OANN sized softball in the midst of what the country is dealing with. For a lot of people, accomplishments begin and end with their own financial standing, which is a gigantic bubble, ignoring the rest of a much larger picture. Unemployment? More job growth under the previous administration, even before the pandemic started. Border wall? Yeah, let's paint that thing black at a cost of 500 million dollars, surely a great way to spend tax dollars during a national emergency. Does the lack of responsibility not bother you? By his own admission, he takes none. Does the quid pro quo of Democratic states not bother you? Surely it isn't the mark of a great leader to be holding PPE hostage in exchange for the states "doing something nice." Does the blaming of the previous administration for things that hadn't been created yet not bother you? I don't expect to get real answers, but it would be nice to dig a little deeper than the surface here. Tell me how he promotes white nationalism please? Sure. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN." "LIBERATE MINNESOTA." "LIBERATE WISCONSIN." Michigan, for example, has one of the most far-right extremist bases of any state in the country. Big time milita movement, who stormed the state capital a few days ago with guns. The president tweeted out this in response : The majority of the president's base is white and angry. By endorsing that behavior, you promote a culture of racism, divide and yes, white nationalism. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 19:52:29 GMT -8
You don't have to go to that site to know about these accomplishments. Are you going to refute them or give the credit to someone else? Refute? No. Give the credit to someone else? Partially. You're still using the best economy ever with no real data to support that. The stock market is not the economy, they are two completely different entities. There was more economic growth under the previous administration. There was more job growth. Much of that has to do with the economy the previous administration inherited. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 19:53:09 GMT -8
Tell me how he promotes white nationalism please? Sure. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN." "LIBERATE MINNESOTA." "LIBERATE WISCONSIN." Michigan, for example, has one of the most far-right extremist bases of any state in the country. Big time milita movement, who stormed the state capital a few days ago with guns. The president tweeted out this in response : The majority of the president's base is white and angry. By endorsing that behavior, you promote a culture of racism, divide and yes, white nationalism. What a big time reach. He's talking about liberating ALL people not just the whites. Sheesh |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 19:54:06 GMT -8
I'm an adult. There are plenty of people I dislike. I'm able to separate that disdain and be objective when it comes to matters of importance, such as this one. You keep rehashing "accomplishments"....yet you won't comment on the white nationalism he promotes. The civil unrest and outright danger that he cultivates. Wishing he would tweet less is an OANN sized softball in the midst of what the country is dealing with. For a lot of people, accomplishments begin and end with their own financial standing, which is a gigantic bubble, ignoring the rest of a much larger picture. Unemployment? More job growth under the previous administration, even before the pandemic started. Border wall? Yeah, let's paint that thing black at a cost of 500 million dollars, surely a great way to spend tax dollars during a national emergency. Does the lack of responsibility not bother you? By his own admission, he takes none. Does the quid pro quo of Democratic states not bother you? Surely it isn't the mark of a great leader to be holding PPE hostage in exchange for the states "doing something nice." Does the blaming of the previous administration for things that hadn't been created yet not bother you? I don't expect to get real answers, but it would be nice to dig a little deeper than the surface here. Tell me how he promotes white nationalism please? Yeah, I want to hear this explanation as well on how Trump "promotes" white nationalism. This should be good. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 20:00:05 GMT -8
Sure. "LIBERATE MICHIGAN." "LIBERATE MINNESOTA." "LIBERATE WISCONSIN." Michigan, for example, has one of the most far-right extremist bases of any state in the country. Big time milita movement, who stormed the state capital a few days ago with guns. The president tweeted out this in response : The majority of the president's base is white and angry. By endorsing that behavior, you promote a culture of racism, divide and yes, white nationalism. What a big time reach. He's talking about liberating ALL people not just the whites. Sheesh No, he pointed out three specific states with Democratic governors, two of which had protests scheduled. He's encouraging people to rise up. Maybe you misunderstood my point : A president who is trying to encourage civil unrest is extremely dangerous. He's been at odds with Gretchen Whitmer for a couple of months and is stating here that the governor should make a deal with armed militia. If you're okay with that, then sure. |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 20:05:43 GMT -8
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 20:11:48 GMT -8
What a big time reach. He's talking about liberating ALL people not just the whites. Sheesh No, he pointed out three specific states with Democratic governors, two of which had protests scheduled. He's encouraging people to rise up. Maybe you misunderstood my point : A president who is trying to encourage civil unrest is extremely dangerous. He's been at odds with Gretchen Whitmer for a couple of months and is stating here that the governor should make a deal with armed militia. If you're okay with that, then sure. Wow. |
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Post by johneaztec on May 6, 2020 20:14:01 GMT -8
What a big time reach. He's talking about liberating ALL people not just the whites. Sheesh No, he pointed out three specific states with Democratic governors, two of which had protests scheduled. He's encouraging people to rise up. Maybe you misunderstood my point : A president who is trying to encourage civil unrest is extremely dangerous. He's been at odds with Gretchen Whitmer for a couple of months and is stating here that the governor should make a deal with armed militia. If you're okay with that, then sure. You're right in there with the media and liberals who will look at something he says and try your darndest to twist into making Trump look bad. It just makes you look bad and desperate. Sorry. |
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Post by uwphoto on May 6, 2020 20:24:05 GMT -8
gimme a break "trump hater". Prolly 50% of America hates Trump. I have perhaps 200 people I can consider friends. You either support trump, or you despise him. So, I know 3 friends who support trump. The rest are professionals in the science community, teachers, lawyers etc. My women friends despise him the most. let me see "blood coming out of her whatever", "Mika bleeding from the face", "look at that face"..and on and on. You guys think its wonderful that he is disliked and tells it like it is...but he generates hatred that America has never seen for a leader. I remember my 3rd grade teacher coming around the corner sobbing after Kennedy got shot...the nation was in mourning..if trump got an aneurysm the reaction might not be the same...and you guys know it...so guilty as charged ..I despise the MF like no one in my 66 years...but I am not alone..and that's exactly how he likes it...gaslight, divide and conquer etc. but please spare us the trump hater $#!+!! Yes, a lot of people hate him..fact not a talking point. Give me a Break. "uneducated cult member" All you do is twist things when you are shown your hypocrisy with facts and actual quotes from people you support but criticize the President while claiming he downplayed Covid-19. You added the Bundys and emphasized they're from Idaho in another one of your ridiculous rants in another thread. There are a lot of people that hate the Establishment Demecrats as much as you claim to hate Trump. And guess what, I'm one of them. Just look at your buddy who said what I posted wasn't real. When I showed him the facts, he just blows it off with my bad hyperbole. I posted what over 60 percent of Americans thought of Trump and the economy. That was in February mind you and during the beginning of this pandemic. And you and your so called intelligent friends still deny it. There's a lot more coming in the following weeks that are going to expose a lot of so called honest Democrats that you love so much. Get your popcorn ready!! Haha.. are you on the clock? Yea, my friends are pretty intelligent. "I love the uneducated". over the weekend the guy you worship was calling a female television newscaster a dog, and saying they should open an investigation into a female aide that tragically died from a medical condition in Joe Scarboroughs office in the early 2000's. I'm sure the girls parents enjoyed that. I know Trump does this $#!+ to gas light and show shiny objects while he screws every important environmental regulations in the US that took 80 years of effort by Republicans and Democrats. f x x x trump. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2020 20:24:15 GMT -8
No, he pointed out three specific states with Democratic governors, two of which had protests scheduled. He's encouraging people to rise up. Maybe you misunderstood my point : A president who is trying to encourage civil unrest is extremely dangerous. He's been at odds with Gretchen Whitmer for a couple of months and is stating here that the governor should make a deal with armed militia. If you're okay with that, then sure. You're right in there with the media and liberals who will look at something he says and try your darndest to twist into making Trump look bad. It just makes you look bad and desperate. Sorry. Not to mention this guy just claimed he doesn't pay attention to the news but then used a news source in a post and used a social media site in another one. I wonder how his personal epidemiologists, virologists and medical health professionals feel about that? 🤔 |
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Post by aztecryan on May 6, 2020 20:33:10 GMT -8
No, he pointed out three specific states with Democratic governors, two of which had protests scheduled. He's encouraging people to rise up. Maybe you misunderstood my point : A president who is trying to encourage civil unrest is extremely dangerous. He's been at odds with Gretchen Whitmer for a couple of months and is stating here that the governor should make a deal with armed militia. If you're okay with that, then sure. You're right in there with the media and liberals who will look at something he says and try your darndest to twist into making Trump look bad. It just makes you look bad and desperate. Sorry. By posting a tweet from the president himself? Believe it or not, my takes are very modest compared to the very far side of the spectrum. I was indifferent on Trump until his handling of the pandemic imploded. I don't care about making him look bad....that's a pathetic path to take. |
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