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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 22, 2020 20:47:04 GMT -8
I'm not asking if you can counter it. I want to know if you have even the slightest clue as to what you are commenting on. Your dodge just now shows that once again you are speaking on something you know nothing about. This is not a conspiracy theory. He is speaking towards are very specific Phase 3 requirement as it relates to test subjects. There's no context to indicate that, if you think the president has the slightest clue. When actual health professionals are stating that rushing an untested and unproven vaccine to market is a terrible precedent, I believe that over the objections of what Donald Trump wants to save his dwindling election chances. Again, he appointed this man. It's not about "speed", it's about his savior complex with a 38% approval rating. Trump said it about as plainly as can be stated. He wrote "the FDA is making it very difficult for drug companies to get people in order to test the vaccines and therapeutics." The tweet is about THE FDA......MAKING IT HARD TO GET PEOPLE. This is a news item from earlier in the week that you obviously didn't pay attention to. The FDA has put racial quota requirements on the Phase 3 clinical trials. The drug companies have more white volunteers than they need but only a fraction of the Black and Latinos required. The drug companies are bringing in head hunters, and influencers for outreach, and even throwing money directly at any Black or Latino willing to be part of the trial, but even with all that they can't get enough to satisfy the FDA requirements. If Black and Latino people would sign on, we'd have an approved available vaccine is less than 10 weeks. If the FDA would drop the racial quotas, we'd have an approved available vaccine in less than 10 weeks. THAT is what Trump is talking about. He wants the FDA to stop with the racism so we can save some lives by rolling out a vaccine.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 22, 2020 21:09:20 GMT -8
There's no context to indicate that, if you think the president has the slightest clue. When actual health professionals are stating that rushing an untested and unproven vaccine to market is a terrible precedent, I believe that over the objections of what Donald Trump wants to save his dwindling election chances. Again, he appointed this man. It's not about "speed", it's about his savior complex with a 38% approval rating. Trump said it about as plainly as can be stated. He wrote "the FDA is making it very difficult for drug companies to get people in order to test the vaccines and therapeutics." The tweet is about THE FDA......MAKING IT HARD TO GET PEOPLE. This is a news item from earlier in the week that you obviously didn't pay attention to. The FDA has put racial quota requirements on the Phase 3 clinical trials. The drug companies have more white volunteers than they need but only a fraction of the Black and Latinos required. The drug companies are bringing in head hunters, and influencers for outreach, and even throwing money directly at any Black or Latino willing to be part of the trial, but even with all that they can't get enough to satisfy the FDA requirements. If Black and Latino people would sign on, we'd have an approved available vaccine is less than 10 weeks. If the FDA would drop the racial quotas, we'd have an approved available vaccine in less than 10 weeks. THAT is what Trump is talking about. He wants the FDA to stop with the racism so we can save some lives by rolling out a vaccine. This is already the fastest a vaccine has ever gotten to phase 3 in history. He doesn't give a damn about saving lives. He wants to come off as the hero after he botched this entire process from start to finish. He was so traumatized today...he went to golf. As usual. He doesn't care about anything but power and himself. Get off the bus.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 23, 2020 5:32:42 GMT -8
He doesn't give a damn about saving lives. He wants to come off as the hero after he botched this entire process from start to finish. Regardless of Trump's motivation, don't you think it would be better if we had a vaccine sooner rather than purposely delayed? Or is ghoulishly watching other people lose their lives something you cheer if it will possibly impact the election in a way you approve of? It is a valid concern. Even garbage leftist propaganda CNN, when reporting on this issue last Tuesday wrote:
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 23, 2020 7:09:55 GMT -8
He doesn't give a damn about saving lives. He wants to come off as the hero after he botched this entire process from start to finish. Regardless of Trump's motivation, don't you think it would be better if we had a vaccine sooner rather than purposely delayed? Or is ghoulishly watching other people lose their lives something you cheer if it will possibly impact the election in a way you approve of? It is a valid concern. Even garbage leftist propaganda CNN, when reporting on this issue last Tuesday wrote: Here's the problem with trump and a vaccine. He has zero credibility...none! All he cares about is himself, he could give a f x x x about others. I won't go through all the medical quackerey he has pushed on the American public so far, ending with the my pilllow guy and oleandrin. Anybody who would trust trump on a medical cure being ready is really dumb. The medical professioanals, without threats and pressure from trump, yes. Even his sister says he's a shyster not to be trusted. The more and more crazy $#!+ this guys says and does, I keep waiting for some of the cult to jump off the bus. I understand hating the other side, but what level of crap will you take? Real question, would the guy getting shot on 5th avenue really do it?... I think not unfortunately.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 23, 2020 7:15:20 GMT -8
He doesn't give a damn about saving lives. He wants to come off as the hero after he botched this entire process from start to finish. Regardless of Trump's motivation, don't you think it would be better if we had a vaccine sooner rather than purposely delayed? Or is ghoulishly watching other people lose their lives something you cheer if it will possibly impact the election in a way you approve of? It is a valid concern. Even garbage leftist propaganda CNN, when reporting on this issue last Tuesday wrote: People may say Trump doesn't give a crap, but the Dems SURELY don't give a crap about people. Their agenda is to do whatever it takes to make Trump look bad and prolong issues that could be solved, all the way through the election. Things will magically get better quickly if Trump loses. That's as clear as a sunny day.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 8:45:13 GMT -8
Regardless of Trump's motivation, don't you think it would be better if we had a vaccine sooner rather than purposely delayed? Or is ghoulishly watching other people lose their lives something you cheer if it will possibly impact the election in a way you approve of? It is a valid concern. Even garbage leftist propaganda CNN, when reporting on this issue last Tuesday wrote: People may say Trump doesn't give a crap, but the Dems SURELY don't give a crap about people. Their agenda is to do whatever it takes to make Trump look bad and prolong issues that could be solved, all the way through the election. Things will magically get better quickly if Trump loses. That's as clear as a sunny day. Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies (like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 23, 2020 10:28:08 GMT -8
People may say Trump doesn't give a crap, but the Dems SURELY don't give a crap about people. Their agenda is to do whatever it takes to make Trump look bad and prolong issues that could be solved, all the way through the election. Things will magically get better quickly if Trump loses. That's as clear as a sunny day. Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies ( like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip. Well, I personally saw a video when one Democrat (I think it was at the convention) recited the pledge and deliberately left out the words "under God." Okay, maybe she just screwed up, though that seems less credible than the assumption that it was deliberate. But, whatever. Anyway, I have written extensively on this site my view that Donald Trump is an extremely flawed man, one who would never be my first choice to serve as POTUS. On the other hand, I do not think he is so devoid of human qualities that he he has no sympathy for those who suffer, from Covid or for any other reason. In other words, I do not think he is a heartless monster. Apparently, many of his opponents do think he is a monster. What is even worse than that is the suspicion that many of the latter also think that people who voted for him are likewise monsters. How are we going to achieve even a modicum of unity in America if one side thinks their opponents are stupid, cruel beasts not worthy of even a tiny bit of sympathy. There are historical examples of that from the 20th Century. The results of treating your fellow citizens in that fashion are too horrible to contemplate. AzWm
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 23, 2020 12:44:01 GMT -8
Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies ( like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip. Well, I personally saw a video when one Democrat (I think it was at the convention) recited the pledge and deliberately left out the words "under God." Okay, maybe she just screwed up, though that seems less credible than the assumption that it was deliberate. But, whatever. Anyway, I have written extensively on this site my view that Donald Trump is an extremely flawed man, one who would never be my first choice to serve as POTUS. On the other hand, I do not think he is so devoid of human qualities that he he has no sympathy for those who suffer, from Covid or for any other reason. In other words, I do not think he is a heartless monster. Apparently, many of his opponents do think he is a monster. What is even worse than that is the suspicion that many of the latter also think that people who voted for him are likewise monsters. How are we going to achieve even a modicum of unity in America if one side thinks their opponents are stupid, cruel beasts not worthy of even a tiny bit of sympathy. There are historical examples of that from the 20th Century. The results of treating your fellow citizens in that fashion are too horrible to contemplate. AzWm Very well said. I have also said that Trump was the lesser of two evils in 2016. I'm thinking the same this year since it's between him and Biden. I'm not sure who I'm voting for yet, but I know it's not Biden. I think Trump gets a bad rap at times, and I also think he doesn't help himself in that regard either.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 23, 2020 12:50:51 GMT -8
People may say Trump doesn't give a crap, but the Dems SURELY don't give a crap about people. Their agenda is to do whatever it takes to make Trump look bad and prolong issues that could be solved, all the way through the election. Things will magically get better quickly if Trump loses. That's as clear as a sunny day. Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies (like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip. You know nothing of my thoughts on who I'm voting for, obviously. The only thing I'm transparent about are the facts. And the facts are that both sides are trying ruin each other. Nice try though Inspector Clouseau, on trying to catch me in a charade. Get a grip.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 23, 2020 13:45:25 GMT -8
People may say Trump doesn't give a crap, but the Dems SURELY don't give a crap about people. Their agenda is to do whatever it takes to make Trump look bad and prolong issues that could be solved, all the way through the election. Things will magically get better quickly if Trump loses. That's as clear as a sunny day. Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies (like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip. After thinking about it, you're basically calling me a liar. One of the worse things you can call someone. You can shove it where the sun don't shine, bud.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 23, 2020 15:42:50 GMT -8
It's not the corruption, the constant lies (like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) Never happened? Do you ever check anything before typing? Here is one example of Democrats at the DNC taking God out of the pledge: Here is another blatant example where the person reciting the pledge pauses to put emphasis on God being omitted:
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 16:23:30 GMT -8
Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies ( like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip. Well, I personally saw a video when one Democrat (I think it was at the convention) recited the pledge and deliberately left out the words "under God." Okay, maybe she just screwed up, though that seems less credible than the assumption that it was deliberate. But, whatever. Anyway, I have written extensively on this site my view that Donald Trump is an extremely flawed man, one who would never be my first choice to serve as POTUS. On the other hand, I do not think he is so devoid of human qualities that he he has no sympathy for those who suffer, from Covid or for any other reason. In other words, I do not think he is a heartless monster. Apparently, many of his opponents do think he is a monster. What is even worse than that is the suspicion that many of the latter also think that people who voted for him are likewise monsters. How are we going to achieve even a modicum of unity in America if one side thinks their opponents are stupid, cruel beasts not worthy of even a tiny bit of sympathy. There are historical examples of that from the 20th Century. The results of treating your fellow citizens in that fashion are too horrible to contemplate. AzWm The facts are in front of you. Choose to look at them or don't.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 16:25:17 GMT -8
Glad you're finally being transparent and dropping this whole "both sides" charade. Yeah, the Democrats need to make Trump look bad. It's not the corruption, the constant lies (like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) and the systematic undermining of, well, everything....it's the Democrats. It's not the mail-in ballot fraud he committed, or the tax returns he's hiding, or any of the other felonies he's committed.....it's the Democrats. Get a grip. You know nothing of my thoughts on who I'm voting for, obviously. The only thing I'm transparent about are the facts. And the facts are that both sides are trying ruin each other. Nice try though Inspector Clouseau, on trying to catch me in a charade. Get a grip. If you're not voting for Biden (which everyone paying attention knew anyway)...you're left with one option. You'd get more respect if you just showed up with some honesty.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 16:26:44 GMT -8
It's not the corruption, the constant lies (like accusing the DNC of taking God out of the pledge, which, uh, never happened) Never happened? Do you ever check anything before typing? Here is one example of Democrats at the DNC taking God out of the pledge: Here is another blatant example where the person reciting the pledge pauses to put emphasis on God being omitted: Represent what happened with some integrity, please.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 16:34:52 GMT -8
Well, I personally saw a video when one Democrat (I think it was at the convention) recited the pledge and deliberately left out the words "under God." Okay, maybe she just screwed up, though that seems less credible than the assumption that it was deliberate. But, whatever. Anyway, I have written extensively on this site my view that Donald Trump is an extremely flawed man, one who would never be my first choice to serve as POTUS. On the other hand, I do not think he is so devoid of human qualities that he he has no sympathy for those who suffer, from Covid or for any other reason. In other words, I do not think he is a heartless monster. Apparently, many of his opponents do think he is a monster. What is even worse than that is the suspicion that many of the latter also think that people who voted for him are likewise monsters. How are we going to achieve even a modicum of unity in America if one side thinks their opponents are stupid, cruel beasts not worthy of even a tiny bit of sympathy. There are historical examples of that from the 20th Century. The results of treating your fellow citizens in that fashion are too horrible to contemplate. AzWm Very well said. I have also said that Trump was the lesser of two evils in 2016. I'm thinking the same this year since it's between him and Biden. I'm not sure who I'm voting for yet, but I know it's not Biden. I think Trump gets a bad rap at times, and I also think he doesn't help himself in that regard either. The fact that this narrative still exists is disgusting and lacks basic comprehension of events that have transpired. "He gets a bad rap at times" because he's a derelict leader, a cowardly human being and a disgusting, disgraceful representation of the presidency. Xenophobia, transphobia, sexual misconduct, obstruction of justice, bribery, harassment, bullying, racism...the list goes on and on and on. www.mcsweeneys.net/articles/the-complete-listing-so-far-atrocities-1-842He's the lesser of nothing except humanity.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 23, 2020 16:42:45 GMT -8
You know nothing of my thoughts on who I'm voting for, obviously. The only thing I'm transparent about are the facts. And the facts are that both sides are trying ruin each other. Nice try though Inspector Clouseau, on trying to catch me in a charade. Get a grip. If you're not voting for Biden (which everyone paying attention knew anyway)...you're left with one option. You'd get more respect if you just showed up with some honesty. Then you're a liar. If there's only two options like you're saying here, then why are you saying that you're not a Biden fan and you'll be voting for someone else? Be honest Ryan. I said that I'm looking at the other candidates now. So, be honest and say you're voting for Biden. You'd get more respect that way. I actually was considering Biden until I found out his ticket is pro abortion. I can hold my head up high and know I'm not lying. You on the other hand?
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 17:21:42 GMT -8
If you're not voting for Biden (which everyone paying attention knew anyway)...you're left with one option. You'd get more respect if you just showed up with some honesty. Then you're a liar. If there's only two options like you're saying here, then why are you saying that you're not a Biden fan and you'll be voting for someone else? Be honest Ryan. I said that I'm looking at the other candidates now. So, be honest and say you're voting for Biden. You'd get more respect that way. I actually was considering Biden until I found out his ticket is pro abortion. I can hold my head up high and know I'm not lying. You on the other hand? I'm writing in, as I've said numerous times. You have that same option, of course. There are only two ACTUAL choices who have a chance of winning, but I'm not voting for either one. Sidenote : Did you really think there was going to be a pro-life Democratic candidate? I thought you did research. Speaking of life, 57% of Republicans stated in a poll that the current COVID death toll was an acceptable number. Yeah, all about life.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 23, 2020 17:36:09 GMT -8
Then you're a liar. If there's only two options like you're saying here, then why are you saying that you're not a Biden fan and you'll be voting for someone else? Be honest Ryan. I said that I'm looking at the other candidates now. So, be honest and say you're voting for Biden. You'd get more respect that way. I actually was considering Biden until I found out his ticket is pro abortion. I can hold my head up high and know I'm not lying. You on the other hand? I'm writing in, as I've said numerous times. You have that same option, of course. There are only two ACTUAL choices who have a chance of winning, but I'm not voting for either one. Sidenote : Did you really think there was going to be a pro-life Democratic candidate? I thought you did research. Speaking of life, 57% of Republicans stated in a poll that the current COVID death toll was an acceptable number. Yeah, all about life. I did not know what the Democrat stance is between life or choice. Like I've stated before, starting this year I'm trying to educate myself better before I vote. When I said in my post a day or two ago about not voting for Biden, in that post I also stated that I was looking at other candidates. Quit jumping to conclusions and thinking that I'm voting only one way. Check out my posts before you decide to call me a liar, bud. It's another bad look on you.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 23, 2020 18:09:16 GMT -8
I'm writing in, as I've said numerous times. You have that same option, of course. There are only two ACTUAL choices who have a chance of winning, but I'm not voting for either one. Sidenote : Did you really think there was going to be a pro-life Democratic candidate? I thought you did research. Speaking of life, 57% of Republicans stated in a poll that the current COVID death toll was an acceptable number. Yeah, all about life. I did not know what the Democrat stance is between life or choice. Like I've stated before, starting this year I'm trying to educate myself better before I vote. When I said in my post a day or two ago about not voting for Biden, in that post I also stated that I was looking at other candidates. Quit jumping to conclusions and thinking that I'm voting only one way. Check out my posts before you decide to call me a liar, bud. It's another bad look on you. The only one who looks bad here is the one defending Trump. I call a spade a spade and you sound wholly uninformed, less than 3 months before Election Day. I'm sorry, but that falls on your shoulders. I don't like disingenuous arguments or inconsistent integrity.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 23, 2020 18:17:03 GMT -8
Well, I personally saw a video when one Democrat (I think it was at the convention) recited the pledge and deliberately left out the words "under God." Okay, maybe she just screwed up, though that seems less credible than the assumption that it was deliberate. But, whatever. Anyway, I have written extensively on this site my view that Donald Trump is an extremely flawed man, one who would never be my first choice to serve as POTUS. On the other hand, I do not think he is so devoid of human qualities that he he has no sympathy for those who suffer, from Covid or for any other reason. In other words, I do not think he is a heartless monster. Apparently, many of his opponents do think he is a monster. What is even worse than that is the suspicion that many of the latter also think that people who voted for him are likewise monsters. How are we going to achieve even a modicum of unity in America if one side thinks their opponents are stupid, cruel beasts not worthy of even a tiny bit of sympathy. There are historical examples of that from the 20th Century. The results of treating your fellow citizens in that fashion are too horrible to contemplate. AzWm The facts are in front of you. Choose to look at them or don't. Well, which facts are you referring to? Do you support or reject the claim that Trump, and pretty much all his supporters, are stupid, cruel beasts? The main fact that I see is that his country is on the verge of falling apart. I'll reach 78 years of age in October, so I've had quite a lot of time to observe the social and political changes in the U.S., starting with the Korean War. At NO point in my life has this country been so divided. Way too many Americans despise people who disagree with their political beliefs. I'm afraid this country is close to being as divided as it was in 1860, and we all know how that worked out. AzWm
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