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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 5, 2020 16:04:52 GMT -8
During the Vietnam era one could get an inexpensive (or free) education. One could also afford to take a week off work to demonstrate in D.C. There were those who did not like lower/middle class Americans being able to have that kind of power and set out to un-educate those same folks and severely shrink their pocketbooks through wealth inequality. Just to make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, you think leftists didn’t like that higher education was so inexpensive and so inflated the price of it? Higher education is entirely leftist. It is really, super-ridiculously hard to find a conservative anywhere in the administration or teaching staff of a university. I think you are wrong. I think the mess is created by unintended consequences of good intentioned leftist policy that flooded universities with easy student loans that cannot be discharged. It started with the Higher Education Act of 1965 introduced by Democrat Edith Green and signed into law by Democrat Lyndon Johnson. The Higher Education Act was further amended in 1998 with the GEAR UP Act introduced by Democrat Chaka Fattah and signed into law by Democrat Bill Clinton. Then it was amended further by Higher Education Opportunity Act proposed by Democrat George Miller. This problem was made by Democrats on Democrats on Democrats to benefit all the Democrats running the universities. If you are looking for someone to blame you’re pretty safe pointing left.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 5, 2020 20:09:29 GMT -8
During the Vietnam era one could get an inexpensive (or free) education. One could also afford to take a week off work to demonstrate in D.C. There were those who did not like lower/middle class Americans being able to have that kind of power and set out to un-educate those same folks and severely shrink their pocketbooks through wealth inequality. Just to make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, you think leftists didn’t like that higher education was so inexpensive and so inflated the price of it? Higher education is entirely leftist. It is really, super-ridiculously hard to find a conservative anywhere in the administration or teaching staff of a university. I think you are wrong. I think the mess is created by unintended consequences of good intentioned leftist policy that flooded universities with easy student loans that cannot be discharged. It started with the Higher Education Act of 1965 introduced by Democrat Edith Green and signed into law by Democrat Lyndon Johnson. The Higher Education Act was further amended in 1998 with the GEAR UP Act introduced by Democrat Chaka Fattah and signed into law by Democrat Bill Clinton. Then it was amended further by Higher Education Opportunity Act proposed by Democrat George Miller. This problem was made by Democrats on Democrats on Democrats to benefit all the Democrats running the universities. If you are looking for someone to blame you’re pretty safe pointing left. Haha..higher education is entirely leftist! Know why mr. Alometer, because of the word "education". Just like the far Right cant find any music for their rallies. No Neil Young, no U2, no Springsteen, no Stones..and on and on. How bout operating systems? No Gates, no Jobs? What exactly do you guys bring to the table..where the cream rises to the top? Here's what you guys bring, being enternally jealous and pissed off. Try focusing on the ruin and dumbing down your orange douche is raining down on us.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 6, 2020 5:09:04 GMT -8
Haha..higher education is entirely leftist! Know why mr. Alometer, because of the word "education". Just like the far Right cant find any music for their rallies. No Neil Young, no U2, no Springsteen, no Stones..and on and on. How bout operating systems? No Gates, no Jobs? What exactly do you guys bring to the table..where the cream rises to the top? Here's what you guys bring, being enternally jealous and pissed off. Try focusing on the ruin and dumbing down your orange douche is raining down on us. What we bring are engineers (largely conservative) to design the world, law enforcement (overwhelmingly conservative) to resist lefty morons currently trying to destroy civilization, the farmers, most surgeons, small business owners, and blue collar workers who make the nation run. What the left brings is people such as yourself, ungrateful for the unglamorous work done to make society work and sneering down at those who do it.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 6, 2020 12:55:43 GMT -8
Haha..higher education is entirely leftist! Know why mr. Alometer, because of the word "education". Just like the far Right cant find any music for their rallies. No Neil Young, no U2, no Springsteen, no Stones..and on and on. How bout operating systems? No Gates, no Jobs? What exactly do you guys bring to the table..where the cream rises to the top? Here's what you guys bring, being enternally jealous and pissed off. Try focusing on the ruin and dumbing down your orange douche is raining down on us. What we bring are engineers (largely conservative) to design the world, law enforcement (overwhelmingly conservative) to resist lefty morons currently trying to destroy civilization, the farmers, most surgeons, small business owners, and blue collar workers who make the nation run. What the left brings is people such as yourself, ungrateful for the unglamorous work done to make society work and sneering down at those who do Well, I was going to give you the engineering department. I know a few engineers and most are not cray cray. I bet 95% of the surgeons you are talking about are embarrassed that a guy like Anthony Fouchi has to have protection for his daughters because they are getting death threats...due to wack job Trump and Peter Navarro. Navarro, by the way, was run out of San Diego when he ran for mayor a few years back. He was considered a whack job then. You appear to support the whack job right. I have said many times that I would vote for a guy like Kascich. Guess that makes me far left. That's how fuggin nits you guys have gotten.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 6, 2020 13:41:59 GMT -8
What we bring are engineers (largely conservative) to design the world, law enforcement (overwhelmingly conservative) to resist lefty morons currently trying to destroy civilization, the farmers, most surgeons, small business owners, and blue collar workers who make the nation run. What the left brings is people such as yourself, ungrateful for the unglamorous work done to make society work and sneering down at those who do. Well, I was going to give you the engineering department. I know a few engineers and most are not cray cray. I bet 95% of the surgeons you are talking about are embarrassed that a guy like Anthony Fouchi has to have protection for his daughters because they are getting death threats...due to wack job Trump and Peter Navarro. Navarro, by the way, was run out of San Diego when he ran for mayor a few years back. He was considered a whack job then. You appear to support the whack job right. I have said many times that I would vote for a guy like Kascich. Guess that makes me far left. That's how fuggin nits you guys have gotten. Be sure to tell your "friends" the next time you're playing basketball of your true feelings of how they are a waste of space and have lived lives that have brought nothing to the table. Beyond just people you know, it seems to me that you are passing judgement on a lot of people whom you have never met, and trying to tar them all with guilt for the worst deeds you can dig up.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 6, 2020 15:19:29 GMT -8
Well, I was going to give you the engineering department. I know a few engineers and most are not cray cray. I bet 95% of the surgeons you are talking about are embarrassed that a guy like Anthony Fouchi has to have protection for his daughters because they are getting death threats...due to wack job Trump and Peter Navarro. Navarro, by the way, was run out of San Diego when he ran for mayor a few years back. He was considered a whack job then. You appear to support the whack job right. I have said many times that I would vote for a guy like Kascich. Guess that makes me far left. That's how fuggin nits you guys have gotten. Be sure to tell your "friends" the next time you're playing basketball of your true feelings of how they are a waste of space and have lived lives that have brought nothing to the table. Beyond just people you know, it seems to me that you are passing judgement on a lot of people whom you have never met, and trying to tar them all with guilt for the worst deeds you can dig up. Sorry you felt I was being harsh on your heros, Trump and Navarro. I do have opinions on who I want making decisions on medicine, science and education. For example, the orange idiot yesterday, said that "some generals" told him the Beirut blast was a bomb attack. Turns out he was lying, so he changed his story. The difference between you and me is...I have a problem with it....and you don't.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 6, 2020 15:39:49 GMT -8
Be sure to tell your "friends" the next time you're playing basketball of your true feelings of how they are a waste of space and have lived lives that have brought nothing to the table. Beyond just people you know, it seems to me that you are passing judgement on a lot of people whom you have never met, and trying to tar them all with guilt for the worst deeds you can dig up. Sorry you felt I was being harsh on your heros, Trump and Navarro. I do have opinions on who I want making decisions on medicine, science and education. For example, the orange idiot yesterday, said that "some generals" told him the Beirut blast was a bomb attack. Turns out he was lying, so he changed his story. The difference between you and me is...I have a problem with it....and you don't. I don't care in the least about you being harsh towards Trump or Navarro. My problem is when you condemn all people on the political right as being lesser humans than you. It is when you say "What exactly do you guys bring to the table..where the cream rises to the top?" When you were saying "you guys", I don't think you believe I am Trump or Navarro posting on an Aztecs message board. You were addressing me as a conservative, suggesting lefties are the cream that rises to the top, and inferring that individuals who hold conservative values bring so little to the table that you can't think of a single worthy thing. You have a supremacist (cream rises to the top) worldview that is more than a little unsettling.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 6, 2020 16:18:32 GMT -8
Sorry you felt I was being harsh on your heros, Trump and Navarro. I do have opinions on who I want making decisions on medicine, science and education. For example, the orange idiot yesterday, said that "some generals" told him the Beirut blast was a bomb attack. Turns out he was lying, so he changed his story. The difference between you and me is...I have a problem with it....and you don't. I don't care in the least about you being harsh towards Trump or Navarro. My problem is when you condemn all people on the political right as being lesser humans than you. It is when you say "What exactly do you guys bring to the table..where the cream rises to the top?" When you were saying "you guys", I don't think you believe I am Trump or Navarro posting on an Aztecs message board. You were addressing me as a conservative, suggesting lefties are the cream that rises to the top, and inferring that individuals who hold conservative values bring so little to the table that you can't think of a single worthy thing. You have a supremacist (cream rises to the top) worldview that is more than a little unsettling. Hey , you are the one that was attacking the "leftist" education system!! This is an attack I hear from your side all the time. How is that not lumping individuals together?? Both my parents were educators, and I take offense. So when you do that, of course I ask what you bring to the table if you think your side is somehow better at it? If so, why do you struggle for musical representation? Representation in science etc. The far right hates Bill Gates and now Fauchi..this is telling!
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 6, 2020 17:36:40 GMT -8
I don't care in the least about you being harsh towards Trump or Navarro. My problem is when you condemn all people on the political right as being lesser humans than you. It is when you say "What exactly do you guys bring to the table..where the cream rises to the top?" When you were saying "you guys", I don't think you believe I am Trump or Navarro posting on an Aztecs message board. You were addressing me as a conservative, suggesting lefties are the cream that rises to the top, and inferring that individuals who hold conservative values bring so little to the table that you can't think of a single worthy thing. You have a supremacist (cream rises to the top) worldview that is more than a little unsettling. Hey , you are the one that was attacking the "leftist" education system!! This is an attack I hear from your side all the time. How is that not lumping individuals together?? Both my parents were educators, and I take offense. So when you do that, of course I ask what you bring to the table if you think your side is somehow better at it? If so, why do you struggle for musical representation? Representation in science etc. The far right hates Bill Gates and now Fauchi..this is telling! What I was criticizing was specific policy championed by specific Democrat politicians, a system, and good intentioned law leading to the unintended consequences of easy loans on higher education. What you are attacking is the worth of human beings you see as different from you. There is a HUGE difference between my thoughts on how specific ideas influenced our current situation, and your thoughts on a particular type of people being a lesser value human being.
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Post by uwphoto on Aug 6, 2020 17:43:17 GMT -8
Hey , you are the one that was attacking the "leftist" education system!! This is an attack I hear from your side all the time. How is that not lumping individuals together?? Both my parents were educators, and I take offense. So when you do that, of course I ask what you bring to the table if you think your side is somehow better at it? If so, why do you struggle for musical representation? Representation in science etc. The far right hates Bill Gates and now Fauchi..this is telling! What I was criticizing was specific policy championed by specific Democrat politicians, a system, and good intentioned law leading to the unintended consequences of easy loans on higher education. What you are attacking is the worth of human beings you see as different from you. There is a HUGE difference between my thoughts on how specific ideas influenced our current situation, and your thoughts on a particular type of people being a lesser value human being. I never said anything about "human value"..you are inferring...whatever..
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Post by azson on Aug 7, 2020 12:19:33 GMT -8
During the Vietnam era one could get an inexpensive (or free) education. One could also afford to take a week off work to demonstrate in D.C. There were those who did not like lower/middle class Americans being able to have that kind of power and set out to un-educate those same folks and severely shrink their pocketbooks through wealth inequality. Just to make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, you think leftists didn’t like that higher education was so inexpensive and so inflated the price of it? Higher education is entirely leftist. It is really, super-ridiculously hard to find a conservative anywhere in the administration or teaching staff of a university. I think you are wrong. I think the mess is created by unintended consequences of good intentioned leftist policy that flooded universities with easy student loans that cannot be discharged. It started with the Higher Education Act of 1965 introduced by Democrat Edith Green and signed into law by Democrat Lyndon Johnson. The Higher Education Act was further amended in 1998 with the GEAR UP Act introduced by Democrat Chaka Fattah and signed into law by Democrat Bill Clinton. Then it was amended further by Higher Education Opportunity Act proposed by Democrat George Miller. This problem was made by Democrats on Democrats on Democrats to benefit all the Democrats running the universities. If you are looking for someone to blame you’re pretty safe pointing left. No, I posit war-hawks and the MI Complex did did not like how powerful the anti-Vietnam response was and think-tanked options to make sure that never happened again.
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Post by azson on Aug 7, 2020 12:22:14 GMT -8
During the Vietnam era one could get an inexpensive (or free) education. One could also afford to take a week off work to demonstrate in D.C. There were those who did not like lower/middle class Americans being able to have that kind of power and set out to un-educate those same folks and severely shrink their pocketbooks through wealth inequality. Just to make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, you think leftists didn’t like that higher education was so inexpensive and so inflated the price of it? Higher education is entirely leftist. It is really, super-ridiculously hard to find a conservative anywhere in the administration or teaching staff of a university. I think you are wrong. I think the mess is created by unintended consequences of good intentioned leftist policy that flooded universities with easy student loans that cannot be discharged. It started with the Higher Education Act of 1965 introduced by Democrat Edith Green and signed into law by Democrat Lyndon Johnson. The Higher Education Act was further amended in 1998 with the GEAR UP Act introduced by Democrat Chaka Fattah and signed into law by Democrat Bill Clinton. Then it was amended further by Higher Education Opportunity Act proposed by Democrat George Miller. This problem was made by Democrats on Democrats on Democrats to benefit all the Democrats running the universities. If you are looking for someone to blame you’re pretty safe pointing left. I disagree with you for the most part, but at least your recognize the "mess" - so at least we have some middle ground as a starting point for debate - unlike some others on this thread.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 7, 2020 12:32:00 GMT -8
Just to make sure I’m understanding what you’re saying, you think leftists didn’t like that higher education was so inexpensive and so inflated the price of it? Higher education is entirely leftist. It is really, super-ridiculously hard to find a conservative anywhere in the administration or teaching staff of a university. I think you are wrong. I think the mess is created by unintended consequences of good intentioned leftist policy that flooded universities with easy student loans that cannot be discharged. It started with the Higher Education Act of 1965 introduced by Democrat Edith Green and signed into law by Democrat Lyndon Johnson. The Higher Education Act was further amended in 1998 with the GEAR UP Act introduced by Democrat Chaka Fattah and signed into law by Democrat Bill Clinton. Then it was amended further by Higher Education Opportunity Act proposed by Democrat George Miller. This problem was made by Democrats on Democrats on Democrats to benefit all the Democrats running the universities. If you are looking for someone to blame you’re pretty safe pointing left. I disagree with you for the most part, but at least your recognize the "mess" - so at least we have some middle ground as a starting point for debate - unlike some others on this thread. There is a mess, and I loathe Boeing who is the MVP of the Military Industrial Complex but even as much as I dislike them I can't find a way to connect the dots between them and ballooning higher education costs. You'll have to flesh out that theory a bit more for me to understand where you are coming from.
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Post by johneaztec on Aug 20, 2020 22:36:57 GMT -8
I can state this now. I'm definitely not voting for Biden and Harris. I know I'm late to the party on this issue concerning Biden, but since he's pro abortion, I couldn't vote for him personally. For some reason I thought he was pro life. And, Harris's views on abortion are waaaay over the top for me.
I'm still looking at all candidates and will really delve into their personal stances, plans for our country, and their policies as voting day approaches.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Aug 21, 2020 21:49:51 GMT -8
One of the problems with Trump is that he may have so damaged the GOP that it may be 15 or 20 years until we have a viable multi-party system. That would put us in the same category as Russia, China, Cuba, Vietnam, etc. I do not think that any country where you or I would want to live is in that category.
AzWm
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 22, 2020 9:03:31 GMT -8
Yes, this man is no threat to America.
Wait, what?
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 22, 2020 11:40:35 GMT -8
Yes, this man is no threat to America. Wait, what? I understand EXACTLY what he is referring to. Do you? Do you know what FDA-based hindrance to attaining Phase 3 test subjects he is referring to or you are you ignorant of the issue?
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 22, 2020 12:25:56 GMT -8
Yes, this man is no threat to America. Wait, what? I understand EXACTLY what he is referring to. Do you? Do you know what FDA-based hindrance to attaining Phase 3 test subjects he is referring to or you are you ignorant of the issue? You don't have an objective bone in your body, so it's not worth even countering this with somsthing logical. I understand, yes. It's not difficult to see what is happening. The president is promoting conspiracy theories against someone he appointed himself. This is just another instance in a long line of issues of mental decline.
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Post by Al-O-Meter on Aug 22, 2020 14:30:50 GMT -8
I understand EXACTLY what he is referring to. Do you? Do you know what FDA-based hindrance to attaining Phase 3 test subjects he is referring to or you are you ignorant of the issue? You don't have an objective bone in your body, so it's not worth even countering this with somsthing logical. I understand, yes. It's not difficult to see what is happening. The president is promoting conspiracy theories against someone he appointed himself. This is just another instance in a long line of issues of mental decline. I'm not asking if you can counter it. I want to know if you have even the slightest clue as to what you are commenting on. Your dodge just now shows that once again you are speaking on something you know nothing about. This is not a conspiracy theory. He is speaking towards are very specific Phase 3 requirement as it relates to test subjects.
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Post by aztecryan on Aug 22, 2020 15:18:50 GMT -8
You don't have an objective bone in your body, so it's not worth even countering this with somsthing logical. I understand, yes. It's not difficult to see what is happening. The president is promoting conspiracy theories against someone he appointed himself. This is just another instance in a long line of issues of mental decline. I'm not asking if you can counter it. I want to know if you have even the slightest clue as to what you are commenting on. Your dodge just now shows that once again you are speaking on something you know nothing about. This is not a conspiracy theory. He is speaking towards are very specific Phase 3 requirement as it relates to test subjects. There's no context to indicate that, if you think the president has the slightest clue. When actual health professionals are stating that rushing an untested and unproven vaccine to market is a terrible precedent, I believe that over the objections of what Donald Trump wants to save his dwindling election chances. Again, he appointed this man. It's not about "speed", it's about his savior complex with a 38% approval rating.
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