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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 14:24:31 GMT -8
A lot of people in the government on both sides were slow to act on Coronavirus. If anything, this whole incident has shown how much better Californians have fared with our early response to the pandemic then New Yorkers (Cuomo/Trump). Thank you Gavin Newsom! And screw the idiotic Wisconsin Supreme Court who were willing to make people vote in person in the middle of a pandemic, so that the Wisconsin conservatives can practice voter suppression in Milwaukee (where there were only 5 polling stations in the entire city, instead of the 100 or so that there normally is), so that the Wisconsin 2020 Supreme Court vote will probably go conservative. Ten other states delayed their elections, but only Wisconsin was callous enough to run theirs for political reasons and endanger millions of Americans lives. That debacle enrages me more then Trump's antics, or Cuomo's stupidity. That being said, a stronger response from our president (along the lines of what Governor Newsom did in California) would have saved a lot, and I mean a lot, of American lives. While Cuomo is also culpable, ultimately the man at the top has the biggest stick to wield, and more responsibility rests with him to wield that power. Trump bears more responsibility for this then Cuomo, or any other governor, congressman, or elected official - and that's also why there is so much media attention on him. Ultimately, the reason why we are talking about Cuomo's response to this, or Newsom's response to this, is because Trump did not take a leadership role in this pandemic early enough. If Trump had shut down our borders in January, and shut down the country in the beginning of March, we would be talking about what a great leadership role he played in all of this. State governors took action because of a lack of federal action early on. Sorry Mr. Ball, but I can't agree with most of what you posted. Trump indeed shut down our borders with China in January. He also did so in March with Europe. He was blasted for doing both. New York leadership was telling New Yorkers to go out despite the coronavirus in early March and as late as the 11th. The Governor of California was praising The President for his response to his state just a couple of weeks ago. Dr Fauci just said the misinformation from China caused the delay in the U.S. response to the Covid-19 outbreak. See my post below for those links and actual facts. What I can agree with is, the world had a delayed response. Why was that? |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 14:42:23 GMT -8
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Post by ramrodd23 on Apr 13, 2020 14:46:37 GMT -8
A lot of people in the government on both sides were slow to act on Coronavirus. If anything, this whole incident has shown how much better Californians have fared with our early response to the pandemic then New Yorkers (Cuomo/Trump). Thank you Gavin Newsom! And screw the idiotic Wisconsin Supreme Court who were willing to make people vote in person in the middle of a pandemic, so that the Wisconsin conservatives can practice voter suppression in Milwaukee (where there were only 5 polling stations in the entire city, instead of the 100 or so that there normally is), so that the Wisconsin 2020 Supreme Court vote will probably go conservative. Ten other states delayed their elections, but only Wisconsin was callous enough to run theirs for political reasons and endanger millions of Americans lives. That debacle enrages me more then Trump's antics, or Cuomo's stupidity. That being said, a stronger response from our president (along the lines of what Governor Newsom did in California) would have saved a lot, and I mean a lot, of American lives. While Cuomo is also culpable, ultimately the man at the top has the biggest stick to wield, and more responsibility rests with him to wield that power. Trump bears more responsibility for this then Cuomo, or any other governor, congressman, or elected official - and that's also why there is so much media attention on him. Ultimately, the reason why we are talking about Cuomo's response to this, or Newsom's response to this, is because Trump did not take a leadership role in this pandemic early enough. If Trump had shut down our borders in January, and shut down the country in the beginning of March, we would be talking about what a great leadership role he played in all of this. State governors took action because of a lack of federal action early on. Sorry Mr. Ball, but I can't agree with most of what you posted. Trump indeed shut down our borders with China in January. Sorry, that is not true. My friend was in China in mid February and had a direct flight to NYC. NYT- Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries. www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.amp.html |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 15:02:56 GMT -8
Sorry Mr. Ball, but I can't agree with most of what you posted. Trump indeed shut down our borders with China in January. Sorry, that is not true. My friend was in China in mid February and had a direct flight to NYC. NYT- Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries. www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.amp.htmlYou just posted a NYT link, go figure, that contradicts yourself. In the first paragraph it states all that travel was before Trump implemented the China travel ban and was called a xenophob for doing so. You might try to remember the W.H.O. telling the President and top U.S. health officials on January 14th that this coronavirus wasn't being spread person to person. Why would President Trump shut down U.S. borders prior to what he was being told from China and the W.H.O.? 🤔 Nice try, and thanks for your input. 👍 |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Apr 13, 2020 15:03:17 GMT -8
Sorry, that is not true. My friend was in China in mid February and had a direct flight to NYC. NYT- Since Chinese officials disclosed the outbreak of a mysterious pneumonialike illness to international health officials on New Year’s Eve, at least 430,000 people have arrived in the United States on direct flights from China, including nearly 40,000 in the two months after President Trump imposed restrictions on such travel, according to an analysis of data collected in both countries. www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimesd.com/2020/04/04/us/coronavirus-china-travel-restrictions.amp.htmlYou just posted a NYT link, go figure, that contradicts yourself. In the first paragraph it states all that travel was before Trump implemented the China travel ban and called a xenophob for doing so. You might try to remember the W.H.O. telling the President and top U.S. health officials on January 14th that this coronavirus wasn't being spread person to person. Why would President Trump shut U.S. borders prior to what he was being told from China and the W.H.O.? 🤔 Lol. I will say it again. My friend was in Xi’an in February and had a direct flight back from New York City. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 15:43:40 GMT -8
You just posted a NYT link, go figure, that contradicts yourself. In the first paragraph it states all that travel was before Trump implemented the China travel ban and called a xenophob for doing so. You might try to remember the W.H.O. telling the President and top U.S. health officials on January 14th that this coronavirus wasn't being spread person to person. Why would President Trump shut U.S. borders prior to what he was being told from China and the W.H.O.? 🤔 Lol. I will say it again. My friend was in Xi’an in February and had a direct flight back from New York City. Maybe your friend is a spy?? 🕵️ But there is answer why your pal was able to fly back to NYC if that was actually true. The China travel ban was implemented on January 31st. So most likely there would be U.S. citizens in China in February trying to get home. And vice versa for Chinese people in the U.S. trying to get home. No? |
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Post by ramrodd23 on Apr 13, 2020 15:45:10 GMT -8
Lol. I will say it again. My friend was in Xi’an in February and had a direct flight back from New York City. Maybe your friend is a spy!! 🕵️ But there is answer why your friend was able to fly back to NYC if that was actually true. The China travel ban was implemented on January 31st. So most likely there would be U.S. citizens in China in February trying to get home. No? Lol it true! If it was a ban, which is not true. Why is there still flights from China flying directly to the US. So you really think a full flight from China where all US citizens? Come on you are grasping for straws. You can’t not spin this. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 13, 2020 15:48:07 GMT -8
Maybe your friend is a spy!! 🕵️ But there is answer why your friend was able to fly back to NYC if that was actually true. The China travel ban was implemented on January 31st. So most likely there would be U.S. citizens in China in February trying to get home. No? Lol it true! If it was a ban, which is not true. Why is there still flights from China flying directly to the US. So you really think a full flight from China where all US citizens? Come on you are grasping for straws. You can’t not spin this. I get it, the travel ban was fake the whole time. W.H.O. knew? 🤔 |
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Post by sdsuball on Apr 13, 2020 22:09:51 GMT -8
Let me put it this way, I would grade Newsom's response to the virus at a B+, Cuomo at a D+, and Trump at a D.
I don't disagree that there was a lot of misinformation spinning around. It is, frankly, very odd how much misinformation was circulating through official organizations such as the WHO and the Chinese government. It makes me consider the possibility that this was some sort of cover-up type deal by the Chinese sown with misinformation.
All that being said, our intelligence community had better information then the WHO, and Trump ignored it. Perhaps that stems from his mistrust for our intelligence community, due to his interactions with them through the Ukraine scandal, as well as the Russian election interference. Furthermore, Newsom had less information then Trump did, and acted more decisively. Trump's leadership was/is poor. Furthermore, leadership is not a political trait. I am sure that at least 80% of Republican senators would do a better job of leading our country through this pandemic then he has. The Republican party elected an idiot into the White House, it's 2020, and I am watching a real live version of the movie Idiocracy.
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 22, 2020 15:03:13 GMT -8
hmmmm. seems like Trump might want out...Aides exploring ways to accomplish this. My Perrier Joet is just begging to be drunk. It is in my refrigerator for only one reason!
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Post by aardvark on Apr 22, 2020 16:18:20 GMT -8
hmmmm. seems like Trump might want out...Aides exploring ways to accomplish this. My Perrier Joet is just begging to be drunk. It is in my refrigerator for only one reason!  |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 22, 2020 16:23:24 GMT -8
hmmmm. seems like Trump might want out...Aides exploring ways to accomplish this. My Perrier Joet is just begging to be drunk. It is in my refrigerator for only one reason! Dude shits in a gold toilet. Born with a golden spoon in his mouth. He has gotten away with bullying and bullshitting people his whole life. He has never had real adversity that he couldn't buy off. I think he'll crack. |
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Post by aardvark on Apr 22, 2020 18:29:03 GMT -8
Dude shits in a gold toilet. Born with a golden spoon in his mouth. He has gotten away with bullying and bullshitting people his whole life. He has never had real adversity that he couldn't buy off. I think he'll crack. If you say so. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 23, 2020 7:06:51 GMT -8
Dude shits in a gold toilet. Born with a golden spoon in his mouth. He has gotten away with bullying and bullshitting people his whole life. He has never had real adversity that he couldn't buy off. I think he'll crack. If you say so. This guy might want to take a look at just about every congresspersons and senators net worth before spewing. That includes the do nothing Pelosi and her 120 to 140 million. She has plenty of ice cream though, so there's that. 🙄 |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 24, 2020 3:57:25 GMT -8
This guy might want to take a look at just about every congresspersons and senators net worth before spewing. That includes the do nothing Pelosi and her 120 to 140 million. She has plenty of ice cream though, so there's that. 🙄 Injecting ice cream might even be a bit safer than bleach. Dude is losing it... |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 24, 2020 4:32:56 GMT -8
Producer of Lysol had to put out a disclaimer so people wouldn't try to inject! Comme on man...25th Amendment. How far are the Magats going to follow this guy down the hole??
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 5:24:48 GMT -8
Producer of Lysol had to put out a disclaimer so people wouldn't try to inject! Comme on man...25th Amendment. How far are the Magats going to follow this guy down the hole?? Trump did not use Lysol or any specific disinfectant. Please show us where he did. |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 24, 2020 5:37:16 GMT -8
Producer of Lysol had to put out a disclaimer so people wouldn't try to inject! Comme on man...25th Amendment. How far are the Magats going to follow this guy down the hole?? Trump did not use Lysol or any specific disinfectant. Please show us where he did. Man, you are going to have to spin your way out of this one. Maybe Trump should go back to nuking hurricanes and wind mills cause cancer. He is the f****** president of the United states for God's sake!! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2020 5:37:24 GMT -8
Producer of Lysol had to put out a disclaimer so people wouldn't try to inject! Comme on man...25th Amendment. How far are the Magats going to follow this guy down the hole?? Trump did not use "Lysol" "bleach" or any specific disinfectant. Please show us where he did. We will wait. |
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Post by uwphoto on Apr 24, 2020 5:51:26 GMT -8
Producer of Lysol had to put out a disclaimer so people wouldn't try to inject! Comme on man...25th Amendment. How far are the Magats going to follow this guy down the hole?? Trump did not use "Lysol" "bleach" or any specific disinfectant. Please show us where he did. We will wait. How deep of a hole are you going to dig for yourself? |
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