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Post by AzTex on Oct 20, 2019 21:24:51 GMT -8
BYU still cheating it would appear: Basically because of the new rules in college football this year allows you to fair catch a kick off, and they put the ball at the 25 yard line for your team. Very few 100 yard runbacks on kickoffs I know, but that is the way it is. They made the first down because if you had noticed the sideline ten yard marker was not completely at the 35 yard line. It was about 1/2 ft. short, and BYU was just lucky enough to make it that far for the first down. I thought at first it was short also, until I looked at the replay and noticed that the flag was not right on the 35 yard line. That does make one wonder how many times during the game that the chains were set to make it 1st and 9.5 instead of 1st and 10 where it wasn't so obvious. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 20, 2019 22:48:44 GMT -8
Again, we're not a Top 25 team. We're 35-40, in terms of how good we are vs all the other FBS teams. I'm not worried about the Top 25. I'm worried about Fresno and Hawaii and BYU. We're not good enough at this point to be thinking about Top 25. What Rocky is correctly thinking about is winning the next game. We're not playing great football. We're playing great defensive football, but, overall, this team isn't in that top 25-30 teams. If we win out, then we can talk about Top 25. But right now this team isn't playing well enough, overall, to worry about how our opponents' records may or may not affect our potential Top 25 votes. Oh, and we have to actually BEAT Boise for it to matter, anyway. Right now this team isn't playing well enough to stay within 10 points of Boise. Where in my comment did I say we were a top 25 team? I said Boise's loss will hurt anybody who beats them because Boise is sure to be out of the top 25 list. I case you didn't get the post it was how playing the cheaters teams have more to lose then gain. Please point out where I said the Aztecs are a top 25 team. You seem awfully preoccupied with Boise's ranking, as if beating them while they were ranked in the Top 25 would therefore get us in the Top 25. If we're not a Top 25 team (and aren't going to be) it doesn't matter what Boise's ranking is, right? The primary goal is to win one game at a time. Everything else is icing on the cake. |
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Oct 21, 2019 6:57:04 GMT -8
Basically because of the new rules in college football this year allows you to fair catch a kick off, and they put the ball at the 25 yard line for your team. Very few 100 yard runbacks on kickoffs I know, but that is the way it is. They made the first down because if you had noticed the sideline ten yard marker was not completely at the 35 yard line. It was about 1/2 ft. short, and BYU was just lucky enough to make it that far for the first down. I thought at first it was short also, until I looked at the replay and noticed that the flag was not right on the 35 yard line. That does make one wonder how many times during the game that the chains were set to make it 1st and 9.5 instead of 1st and 10 where it wasn't so obvious. This is why I hate playing BYU. |
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Post by Motown Monty on Oct 21, 2019 9:05:45 GMT -8
We beat them last year without penny or pumphrey! We also beat them with mostly the same crew we have now. Also, should Boise win out, we'd be on their smurf turf, which we are 3-0 on. And like many on here mention Aztecs play down to bad competition, but they also play up to good competition! I think we'd have a great chance to win You are just one game off on that smurf turf statement. We are 3-1 there having lost to Boise there in 2014, 29-38. But, we have won there more than many MWC teams have because we do not fear Boise or their turf! Aztecs are 2-1 on the blue and Boise is 2-1 in San Diego. www.sports-reference.com/cfb/play-index/rivals.cgi?request=1&school_id=san-diego-state&opp_id=boise-state |
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Oct 21, 2019 11:59:36 GMT -8
I consider any year that we are playing the last game for a championship a great year.
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Post by tonatiuh on Oct 21, 2019 12:36:26 GMT -8
Yes, you are correct as far as playing Boise on their 'Blue Turf', but we were counting the times we have played on the Blue Turf, and if you will remember we did play Buffalo there during the Famous Potato Bowl in December 2013 and beat them 49-24! Actually, we 3-1 on the Blue Turf overall. |
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Post by azson on Oct 21, 2019 14:40:52 GMT -8
I have no idea why you would want Boise to lose this game. Sucks that they did. I’m blown away by your comment. Really? Boise is the current bane of the Aztecs' existence. They are the new BYU in the conference. They have the special media deal, they get the preferential treatment, they get far more respect and far better recruits than we do. I hate Boise State. Just like I hate BYU. No self-respecting Aztec fan would come close to equating ANY other team to BYU. Does BSU have anything resembling the BS Mission loophole that BYU does? No. Does BSU have a long history of BS on-field cheating vs. the Aztecs, i.e. anything coming close to Replaygate? No. Does BSU have anything close to the hypocritical, insufferable, self-righteous fan-base that BYU does? No. (I could go on, but why?) You wonder why you take so much heat from many on this board and why we question what kind of Aztec fan you are? It’s posts like the above. |
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Post by fastaztec on Oct 21, 2019 16:28:23 GMT -8
Really? Boise is the current bane of the Aztecs' existence. They are the new BYU in the conference. They have the special media deal, they get the preferential treatment, they get far more respect and far better recruits than we do. I hate Boise State. Just like I hate BYU. No self-respecting Aztec fan would come close to equating ANY other team to BYU. Does BSU have anything resembling the BS Mission loophole that BYU does? No. Does BSU have a long history of BS on-field cheating vs. the Aztecs, i.e. anything coming close to Replaygate? No. Does BSU have anything close to the hypocritical, insufferable, self-righteous fan-base that BYU does? No. (I could go on, but why?) You wonder why you take so much heat from many on this board and why we question what kind of Aztec fan you are? It’s posts like the above. *************************************************** Help me out here. I hate BYU as much as anybody on here. Primarily because of their arrogance and kicking out ass on a regular basis when in the league. I agree about their fans and the mission is clearly a competitive advantage. I also believe we should not schedule them in any sport. However, aside from the Chad Bunn screw job and the Kyle Spain NO call at the end of a game at their place please tell me of instances of cheating by BYU. Please be specific. |
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 21, 2019 16:36:44 GMT -8
Really? Boise is the current bane of the Aztecs' existence. They are the new BYU in the conference. They have the special media deal, they get the preferential treatment, they get far more respect and far better recruits than we do. I hate Boise State. Just like I hate BYU. No self-respecting Aztec fan would come close to equating ANY other team to BYU. Does BSU have anything resembling the BS Mission loophole that BYU does? No. Does BSU have a long history of BS on-field cheating vs. the Aztecs, i.e. anything coming close to Replaygate? No. Does BSU have anything close to the hypocritical, insufferable, self-righteous fan-base that BYU does? No. (I could go on, but why?) You wonder why you take so much heat from many on this board and why we question what kind of Aztec fan you are? It’s posts like the above. Lighten up, Francis. Boise is getting a huge financial boost that the rest of the schools in the conference don't get. That's as big of an advantage as having players go on missions. They wear blue uniforms playing on blue turf, and that's kind of like cheating as it makes it more likely that an opposing QB would miss a DB in coverage and throw a pick. Both schools are to be reviled. I hate BYU with a passion, but I hate Boise State almost as much. |
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 21, 2019 17:42:40 GMT -8
Any team who plays at Provo is in for a tough game. Lots of factors (altitude, questionable restaurant sanitary practices, Chad Bunn, 24 year old Olinemen) can lead to defeat, so I’m not surprised Boise St lost. It helps that the Zoobs travel here, let them eat 3-3-5 cake.
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 21, 2019 19:51:47 GMT -8
Really? Boise is the current bane of the Aztecs' existence. They are the new BYU in the conference. They have the special media deal, they get the preferential treatment, they get far more respect and far better recruits than we do. I hate Boise State. Just like I hate BYU. No self-respecting Aztec fan would come close to equating ANY other team to BYU. Does BSU have anything resembling the BS Mission loophole that BYU does? No. Does BSU have a long history of BS on-field cheating vs. the Aztecs, i.e. anything coming close to Replaygate? No. Does BSU have anything close to the hypocritical, insufferable, self-righteous fan-base that BYU does? No. (I could go on, but why?) You wonder why you take so much heat from many on this board and why we question what kind of Aztec fan you are? It’s posts like the above. I have followed Aztec football since 1958 and BYU is my most hated team. Way back in the '50s it was the Marine Corps Recruit Depot (yes, we played them). It then became Fresno State for me. BYU then came along and supplanted them. BYU is anathema to me. How we allowed them on our schedule is beyond my comprehension. We finally get a conference without them and then we play them willingly? |
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Post by AzTex on Oct 21, 2019 21:33:09 GMT -8
No self-respecting Aztec fan would come close to equating ANY other team to BYU. Does BSU have anything resembling the BS Mission loophole that BYU does? No. Does BSU have a long history of BS on-field cheating vs. the Aztecs, i.e. anything coming close to Replaygate? No. Does BSU have anything close to the hypocritical, insufferable, self-righteous fan-base that BYU does? No. (I could go on, but why?) You wonder why you take so much heat from many on this board and why we question what kind of Aztec fan you are? It’s posts like the above. I have followed Aztec football since 1958 and BYU is my most hated team. Way back in the '50s it was the Marine Corps Recruit Depot (yes, we played them). It then became Fresno State for me. BYU then came along and supplanted them. BYU is anathema to me. How we allowed them on our schedule is beyond my comprehension. We finally get a conference without them and then we play them willingly? You've got 3 years on me. I believe that MCRD was hated mostly because of how we got robbed by a horrible pass interference call in the November 1963 game. Both before and after that game Fresno was our hated rival. I think you forgot to add Long Beach State which became our main rival in the mid-60s. They were the team I hated most even after we quit playing them. That was until we started playing BYU. To this day BYU is the team I hate the most. I would enjoy our rivalry with Fresno State and would like to play Long Beach State in basketball to keep that rivalry going. But I agree with you. I don't want to play BYU again in any sport, any where, any time.  |
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Post by aztecmusician on Oct 21, 2019 22:47:24 GMT -8
Really? Boise is the current bane of the Aztecs' existence. They are the new BYU in the conference. They have the special media deal, they get the preferential treatment, they get far more respect and far better recruits than we do. I hate Boise State. Just like I hate BYU. No self-respecting Aztec fan would come close to equating ANY other team to BYU. Does BSU have anything resembling the BS Mission loophole that BYU does? No. Does BSU have a long history of BS on-field cheating vs. the Aztecs, i.e. anything coming close to Replaygate? No. Does BSU have anything close to the hypocritical, insufferable, self-righteous fan-base that BYU does? No. (I could go on, but why?) You wonder why you take so much heat from many on this board and why we question what kind of Aztec fan you are? It’s posts like the above. Winner. I don’t know how many of you remember the season of 1979, but the Aztecs were looking pretty good going into the BYU game. They had convincing wins over Arizona, Miami and Wisconsin that year, and we’re looking to take down WAC champion #10 ranked BYU. Instead, the Aztecs received an EPIC beatdown 63-14 at the hands of Marc Wilson and the Cougars. That was pretty much the end of Claude Gilbert’s coaching at SDSU. Since then, BYU became hated rival numero uno. The games in the 80’s and 90,s were rarely competitive, and BYU had a way of rubbing it in, even more than UCLA. Any season with a win vs those bastards should be considered a successful season regardless of the record. |
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Post by zurac315 on Oct 22, 2019 1:04:24 GMT -8
I have followed Aztec football since 1958 and BYU is my most hated team. Way back in the '50s it was the Marine Corps Recruit Depot (yes, we played them). It then became Fresno State for me. BYU then came along and supplanted them. BYU is anathema to me. How we allowed them on our schedule is beyond my comprehension. We finally get a conference without them and then we play them willingly? You've got 3 years on me. I believe that MCRD was hated mostly because of how we got robbed by a horrible pass interference call in the November 1963 game. Both before and after that game Fresno was our hated rival. I think you forgot to add Long Beach State which became our main rival in the mid-60s. They were the team I hated most even after we quit playing them. That was until we started playing BYU. To this day BYU is the team I hate the most. I would enjoy our rivalry with Fresno State and would like to play Long Beach State in basketball to keep that rivalry going. But I agree with you. I don't want to play BYU again in any sport, any where, any time. Yes, I was at that game vs. MCRD. I've never seen Aztec fans that angry. I was about 13 years old. I thought there was going to be a riot. And Long Beach was really quite good and beat us a number of times as I recall. Fresno was and continues to be a real rival but I didn't actually despise them like I do BYU.  What we are doing messing about with BYU I have no clue. I will not be watching or listening to that game. |
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Oct 22, 2019 6:18:09 GMT -8
BYU needs the MW to fill out their schedule. The MW does not need BYU, but continues to help them by scheduling games. JUST SAY NO!
John Wicker should be fired for his blatant disregard of Aztec fan's desires to not play BYU.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 22, 2019 6:22:57 GMT -8
BYU needs the MW to fill out their schedule. The MW does not need BYU, but continues to help them by scheduling games. JUST SAY NO! John Wicker should be fired for his blatant disregard of Aztec fans' desires to not play BYU. I have no idea why Wicker scheduled BYU when he should know that 90% of the Aztec fans never want to see any team from that school in San Diego ever again (and they certainly don't want any Aztec team going to Provo). BYU was gone, out of our conference, out of our lives, but Wicker brought them back. This is not likely to end well. It almost never does. BYU is no longer a rival. At least, they shouldn't be. You can't have a rivalry if you never play each other. |
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Post by 12414 on Oct 22, 2019 7:41:16 GMT -8
I agree with those who think it was deplorable to schedule BYU. And the decision to schedule them for the last game of the season was even worse.
Here is the scenario I think has a high probability of happening:
The Aztecs win out going into the BYU game. The MWC West division is wrapped up. A high-level bowl selection could be on the line if they beat BYU. The issue is Rocky Long has always maintained that a conference championship is his major goal. My concern is Rocky takes the meaningless (to him) BYU game lightly and rests his key players for the MWC championship game.
All told, it was a horrible decision by Wicker to allow this BYU game to be scheduled.
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Post by zollner on Oct 22, 2019 8:08:58 GMT -8
I agree with those who think it was deplorable to schedule BYU. And the decision to schedule them for the last game of the season was even worse. Here is the scenario I think has a high probability of happening: The Aztecs win out going into the BYU game. The MWC West division is wrapped up. A high-level bowl selection could be on the line if they beat BYU. The issue is Rocky Long has always maintained that a conference championship is his major goal. My concern is Rocky takes the meaningless (to him) BYU game lightly and rests his key players for the MWC championship game. All told, it was a horrible decision by Wicker to allow this BYU game to be scheduled. I agree nothing good will come of this game, nor will any good come of the game next year. Wicker is tone deaf to the alumni and only sees $$$ signs. A personal experience, was at BYPUKE game many years ago, it was in Oct. the World Series game was being broadcast at the same time as the Aztec v. BYPUKE game. There was a PUKE fan sitting next to me with a small transistor radio. This was way before smart phones. Anyway I asked the Puke fan what the score of the WS was. I know he was listening because every once in a while I could hear the broadcast when said Puke fan turned a certain way. So I asked what the score was puke fan looks right at me and turns away. To be fair I thought maybe he didn't hear me so I asked again. Same response he just turned away and ignored me. Never did get the score. My number one bitch against BYPUKE beside cheating, two year so called Mission advantage, was the time we were playing the pukes and M. Faulk breaks the rushing record right near the pukes sideline and their holier then thou coach refuses to shake his hand. As I said nothing good will come from these games, just ask Boise, the Puke boys used their 25 year old redshirt freshmen back up QB to beat them, plus helpful spots and down markers. |
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Post by AzTex on Oct 22, 2019 8:52:11 GMT -8
You've got 3 years on me. I believe that MCRD was hated mostly because of how we got robbed by a horrible pass interference call in the November 1963 game. Both before and after that game Fresno was our hated rival. I think you forgot to add Long Beach State which became our main rival in the mid-60s. They were the team I hated most even after we quit playing them. That was until we started playing BYU. To this day BYU is the team I hate the most. I would enjoy our rivalry with Fresno State and would like to play Long Beach State in basketball to keep that rivalry going. But I agree with you. I don't want to play BYU again in any sport, any where, any time. Yes, I was at that game vs. MCRD. I've never seen Aztec fans that angry. I was about 13 years old. I thought there was going to be a riot. And Long Beach was really quite good and beat us a number of times as I recall. Fresno was and continues to be a real rival but I didn't actually despise them like I do BYU. What we are doing messing about with BYU I have no clue. I will not be watching or listening to that game. The game was in my first year as a student at State. My future, and current wife, was with me in the student section. My parents decided to go to the game there in Balboa Stadium and had seats under the press box in the reserved section. There was a high ranking Marine officer with a half-dozen or so aides sitting a couple rows in front of them. Not long after that horrible interference call, and as you say with lots of angry Aztec fans, someone near my parents stomped on a paper cup making a loud pop. The Marine and his aides immediately got up and left apparently fearing it was a gun shot. Remember, this was the weekend immediately after the Kennedy assassination. That, along with all the angry fans scared him away. |
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Post by AzTex on Oct 22, 2019 8:54:07 GMT -8
BYU needs the MW to fill out their schedule. The MW does not need BYU, but continues to help them by scheduling games. JUST SAY NO! John Wicker should be fired for his blatant disregard of Aztec fans' desires to not play BYU. I have no idea why Wicker scheduled BYU when he should know that 90% of the Aztec fans never want to see any team from that school in San Diego ever again (and they certainly don't want any Aztec team going to Provo). BYU was gone, out of our conference, out of our lives, but Wicker brought them back. This is not likely to end well. It almost never does. BYU is no longer a rival. At least, they shouldn't be. You can't have a rivalry if you never play each other. We never really had a rivalry with BYU. We considered them a rival, but they never considered us a rival. I'm not sure you can truly have a one sided rivalry. |
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What we are doing messing about with BYU I have no clue. I will not be watching or listening to that game.