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Post by zollner on Oct 20, 2019 7:42:33 GMT -8
Two trick plays beat Boise who fell asleep on defense. Boise's back up QB looked nothing like he did when he came in for the injured starter last week at the Smurf Field. Off course the Rainbow Warrior's defense is not very good. Look what Air Force's third string QB did to the Warriors last night. Air Force laid a 50 spot on the warriors, mostly on the ground.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 20, 2019 7:56:50 GMT -8
Really? Boise is the current bane of the Aztecs' existence. They are the new BYU in the conference. They have the special media deal, they get the preferential treatment, they get far more respect and far better recruits than we do. I hate Boise State. Just like I hate BYU. Competitively I don't see the parallel. Aztecs are even in the series with BSU (3-3), have defeated them when they were ranked and defeated them twice in Boise (including the most recent contest last season). Our series with BYU was WAY more lopsided in the Cougars favor. Yeah, but this year is different. The Aztecs don't have Penny or Pumphrey, and our offense against good teams is not very effective. I don't think we'll be able to keep up with Boise if we make it to the MWC Championship Game. I could be wrong, but at this point, with our two world class running backs long gone, I don't see us being good enough to keep up with Boise.
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Post by kturtle5114 on Oct 20, 2019 8:14:04 GMT -8
Competitively I don't see the parallel. Aztecs are even in the series with BSU (3-3), have defeated them when they were ranked and defeated them twice in Boise (including the most recent contest last season). Our series with BYU was WAY more lopsided in the Cougars favor. Yeah, but this year is different. The Aztecs don't have Penny or Pumphrey, and our offense against good teams is not very effective. I don't think we'll be able to keep up with Boise if we make it to the MWC Championship Game. I could be wrong, but at this point, with our two world class running backs long gone, I don't see us being good enough to keep up with Boise. We beat them last year without penny or pumphrey! We also beat them with mostly the same crew we have now. Also, should Boise win out, we'd be on their smurf turf, which we are 3-0 on. And like many on here mention Aztecs play down to bad competition, but they also play up to good competition! I think we'd have a great chance to win
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Post by Den60 on Oct 20, 2019 8:29:19 GMT -8
Wrong. Boise and BYU are not on the same level. As an SDSU fan no program is on BYU's level. Boise gets (unfair) preferential treatment from the conference, preferential treatment that seriously hurts our program. So I hate that program just like I hate BYU. I guess that is what happens when you have a couple of big time bowl game victories in January.
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Post by frustratedfan on Oct 20, 2019 8:53:07 GMT -8
Boise gets (unfair) preferential treatment from the conference, preferential treatment that seriously hurts our program. So I hate that program just like I hate BYU. I guess that is what happens when you have a couple of big time bowl game victories in January. Yeah, but that was 12 years ago. They haven’t done anything since and yet they still get preferential treatment like Aztec Panther said. I get a little tired of this preferential treatment for something Boise State did 12 years ago. Since then they have been on par with us, and yet ESPN slobbers all over them. The MWC treats them like they are someone special. They get the special treatment that hurts other teams in the MWC and for what? Sorry, but I am with Aztec Panther on this one.
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Post by Old School on Oct 20, 2019 9:26:09 GMT -8
Uh, they beat USC. Nothing to sneeze at. Just saying. Still cheaters, tho. Oldie Out
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Post by zollner on Oct 20, 2019 9:28:59 GMT -8
Boise's loss to BYCheaters not only hurts Boise it also hurts anybody in the Mountain West who beats Boise. So now the 20-25 slots will go to the ACC teams, Sun Belt, and what ever conference Appalachia State is in. I'm pretty sure Boise will drop out of the top 25. I never want to play the BYCheaters a lot more to lose then gain, ask Boise.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Oct 20, 2019 9:46:16 GMT -8
Boise's loss to BYCheaters not only hurts Boise it also hurts anybody in the Mountain West who beats Boise. So now the 20-25 slots will go to the ACC teams, Sun Belt, and what ever conference Appalachia State is in. I'm pretty sure Boise will drop out of the top 25. I never want to play the BYCheaters a lot more to lose then gain, ask Boise. Again, we're not a Top 25 team. We're 35-40, in terms of how good we are vs all the other FBS teams. I'm not worried about the Top 25. I'm worried about Fresno and Hawaii and BYU. We're not good enough at this point to be thinking about Top 25. What Rocky is correctly thinking about is winning the next game. We're not playing great football. We're playing great defensive football, but, overall, this team isn't in that top 25-30 teams. If we win out, then we can talk about Top 25. But right now this team isn't playing well enough, overall, to worry about how our opponents' records may or may not affect our potential Top 25 votes. Oh, and we have to actually BEAT Boise for it to matter, anyway. Right now this team isn't playing well enough to stay within 10 points of Boise.
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Post by aztecnails on Oct 20, 2019 12:30:29 GMT -8
boise is not the top 25 team without bachmeier. that gives the other mwc teams an above average chance to beat them.
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Post by sdsustoner on Oct 20, 2019 13:20:02 GMT -8
F BYU
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Post by sdmotohead on Oct 20, 2019 14:17:53 GMT -8
BYU still cheating it would appear:
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Post by zollner on Oct 20, 2019 14:19:29 GMT -8
Boise's loss to BYCheaters not only hurts Boise it also hurts anybody in the Mountain West who beats Boise. So now the 20-25 slots will go to the ACC teams, Sun Belt, and what ever conference Appalachia State is in. I'm pretty sure Boise will drop out of the top 25. I never want to play the BYCheaters a lot more to lose then gain, ask Boise. Again, we're not a Top 25 team. We're 35-40, in terms of how good we are vs all the other FBS teams. I'm not worried about the Top 25. I'm worried about Fresno and Hawaii and BYU. We're not good enough at this point to be thinking about Top 25. What Rocky is correctly thinking about is winning the next game. We're not playing great football. We're playing great defensive football, but, overall, this team isn't in that top 25-30 teams. If we win out, then we can talk about Top 25. But right now this team isn't playing well enough, overall, to worry about how our opponents' records may or may not affect our potential Top 25 votes. Oh, and we have to actually BEAT Boise for it to matter, anyway. Right now this team isn't playing well enough to stay within 10 points of Boise. Where in my comment did I say we were a top 25 team? I said Boise's loss will hurt anybody who beats them because Boise is sure to be out of the top 25 list. I case you didn't get the post it was how playing the cheaters teams have more to lose then gain. Please point out where I said the Aztecs are a top 25 team.
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Post by standiego on Oct 20, 2019 14:38:59 GMT -8
makes our game with BYU - even more eventful
would guess MW will lose a Bowl bid if BSU does not make it to the top G5 Bowl invite - so we are going to have to be one of the best 5 or 6 teams in MW to get a Bowl invite -
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Post by tonatiuh on Oct 20, 2019 16:11:09 GMT -8
BYU still cheating it would appear: Basically because of the new rules in college football this year allows you to fair catch a kick off, and they put the ball at the 25 yard line for your team. Very few 100 yard runbacks on kickoffs I know, but that is the way it is. They made the first down because if you had noticed the sideline ten yard marker was not completely at the 35 yard line. It was about 1/2 ft. short, and BYU was just lucky enough to make it that far for the first down. I thought at first it was short also, until I looked at the replay and noticed that the flag was not right on the 35 yard line.
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Post by gocoaztec on Oct 20, 2019 16:15:35 GMT -8
It would have been better for us if BSU had won the game. The only way we come out ahead is if BYU goes on a winning streak before we beat them or if we get home field for the MWCCG because we are playing a 2 loss BSU. Neither is very likely, but who knows?
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Post by tonatiuh on Oct 20, 2019 18:39:07 GMT -8
Yeah, but this year is different. The Aztecs don't have Penny or Pumphrey, and our offense against good teams is not very effective. I don't think we'll be able to keep up with Boise if we make it to the MWC Championship Game. I could be wrong, but at this point, with our two world class running backs long gone, I don't see us being good enough to keep up with Boise. We beat them last year without penny or pumphrey! We also beat them with mostly the same crew we have now. Also, should Boise win out, we'd be on their smurf turf, which we are 3-0 on. And like many on here mention Aztecs play down to bad competition, but they also play up to good competition! I think we'd have a great chance to win You are just one game off on that smurf turf statement. We are 3-1 there having lost to Boise there in 2014, 29-38. But, we have won there more than many MWC teams have because we do not fear Boise or their turf!
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Post by Boise Aztec on Oct 20, 2019 18:56:42 GMT -8
Competitively I don't see the parallel. Aztecs are even in the series with BSU (3-3), have defeated them when they were ranked and defeated them twice in Boise (including the most recent contest last season). Our series with BYU was WAY more lopsided in the Cougars favor. Yeah, but this year is different. The Aztecs don't have Penny or Pumphrey, and our offense against good teams is not very effective. I don't think we'll be able to keep up with Boise if we make it to the MWC Championship Game. I could be wrong, but at this point, with our two world class running backs long gone, I don't see us being good enough to keep up with Boise. Disagree, there is no way that this team or any other Rocky team doesn’t keep a conference championship game close... we went on the road against the “best” QB in the MWC last year and smoked BSU, they were lucky the game was even close. Home or away, this Aztec team beats BSU this year.
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Post by Boise Aztec on Oct 20, 2019 19:00:49 GMT -8
BYU still cheating it would appear: Basically because of the new rules in college football this year allows you to fair catch a kick off, and they put the ball at the 25 yard line for your team. Very few 100 yard runbacks on kickoffs I know, but that is the way it is. They made the first down because if you had noticed the sideline ten yard marker was not completely at the 35 yard line. It was about 1/2 ft. short, and BYU was just lucky enough to make it that far for the first down. I thought at first it was short also, until I looked at the replay and noticed that the flag was not right on the 35 yard line. I don’t think that was his point, the ball was or should have been placed at the 25 yard line so the first down in this situation is very easy. You either make the 35 or you don’t... they didn’t so they should have punted...
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Post by Aztec Since 88 on Oct 20, 2019 19:09:20 GMT -8
Replay reversed the first down. BYU went for it on 4th and inches and made a first down. Then ran out the clock.
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Post by tonatiuh on Oct 20, 2019 19:21:24 GMT -8
Wasn't he assuming that the 35 yard line was where the red flag was for the mark of ten yards and a first down? That's what I thought myself, but
like I mentioned the flag was not exactly at the 35 yd. line. It was 6 inches short. The BYU offense made it to that point and that is how they got the first
down. Some may think it was crazy to go for the first on fourth down, but they knew that giving up the ball to Boise again, and Boise may come back
and score again and steal the game from them. They took a chance and it worked out for them.
*Boise St. learned last night how painful it can be playing the Cougs' in Provo. We have only won there only twice in our many trips up there.
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