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Post by Texaz on Nov 30, 2017 14:07:53 GMT -8
Anyone who watched yesterdays presentation heard from the start how they are going to fix the flood plain and build the development to work WITH the river not like how Qualcomm tries to build inspite of it. Go back and watch for yourself before you try to discourage others into thinking this plan is not well thought it. This plan and renderings are exactly what we need. Yes, they said yesterday the were going to build up the stadium site and return the river to its original flow before Qualcomm was built. |
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Post by rebar619 on Nov 30, 2017 14:25:50 GMT -8
Stadium currently budgeted at $250M which is $100M above what the university initially said they could budget. I don't see how they can expect to have the field 30' below grade which is being proposed to cut costs. At the current location of the Q you hit standing water within 2 feet. When the city looked at dropping the field at the Q they decided against it because it would require a very expensive active drainage system. Dude topography. Learn it, love it, embrace it. This is all about taking advantage of what the land is doing. No ground water to deal with. Dig down, build seats. Exhibit 1, Aztec Bowl. |
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Post by rebar619 on Nov 30, 2017 14:27:40 GMT -8
Surface flow from the river won't be an issue because the deign of the project won't allow for it to get there otherwise the classrooms and restaurants would be flooded first. Now ground water could be an issue I guess but not to the magnitude of the photos but then again drains and underground parking structures will hinder that. Again, the water table is less than 2 feet below the current field level. Whenever you get any significant rain the field quickly becomes swampy. This proposal has them going 28' below the water table adjacent to a river. You can't "drain" uphill so you will have to have an active drainage system working 24/7/365. And it isn't just the field that will flood, you are looking at about 23' of seating area that would be below the water table. I do not expect them to build any classrooms, apartments or other occupied space below the water table though they likely will have some parking below grade that will be at risk of flooding when we get any significant rainfall. I am an engineer. Take my advice. Dont worry about it. People paid to know have this covered. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 30, 2017 14:53:51 GMT -8
Surface flow from the river won't be an issue because the deign of the project won't allow for it to get there otherwise the classrooms and restaurants would be flooded first. Now ground water could be an issue I guess but not to the magnitude of the photos but then again drains and underground parking structures will hinder that. Again, the water table is less than 2 feet below the current field level. Whenever you get any significant rain the field quickly becomes swampy. This proposal has them going 28' below the water table adjacent to a river. You can't "drain" uphill so you will have to have an active drainage system working 24/7/365. And it isn't just the field that will flood, you are looking at about 23' of seating area that would be below the water table. I do not expect them to build any classrooms, apartments or other occupied space below the water table though they likely will have some parking below grade that will be at risk of flooding when we get any significant rainfall. Some 5,000 underground spots are being proposed between the stadium and the river. I understand your concern about the water table. The elevation difference between the field and that area is greater than 20'. Remember SC was planning on brining in 500,000 cy of import. I'm sure when they do geotechnical exploration if they need to make adjustments they will. This isn't going out for bid and will need to go through all the typical engineering and review so if problems arise they'll be worked out. |
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Post by aardvark on Nov 30, 2017 15:22:34 GMT -8
I wonder what Landon Donovan has to say about all of this? I'm sorry, who? |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 30, 2017 15:24:43 GMT -8
No way that there is a two story difference in height from the lowest portion of the parking lot to its highest much less from where the current stadium sits and the proposed one does. The USGS Topo map disagrees with you, the river is approx.40 ft, stadium sits at 60 ft, the north west corner is between 80 and 100 ft. viewer.nationalmap.gov/basic/?basemap=b1&category=ustopo&title=US%20Topo%20DownloadAs Boise Aztec has pointed out, bringing in dirt is not hard to build up areas as needed and create a grade that water will flow away from the stadium into a drainage system, or even underground ground drainage pits designed to hold overflow during periods of large rain fall. If the stadium is built below grade, then dirt will be excavated and reused in other areas of the development as needed. Park-like Drainage basin pits can be created if needed for runoff, and the River park isn't just for pretty pictures. All that open land creates a natural flood barrier that absorbs water as opposed to asphalt and concrete that retains water and doesn't allow water to seep back into the ground. and there you have it... Nice work... |
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Post by aardvark on Nov 30, 2017 15:25:41 GMT -8
No way that there is a two story difference in height from the lowest portion of the parking lot to its highest much less from where the current stadium sits and the proposed one does. The USGS Topo map disagrees with you, the river is approx.40 ft, stadium sits at 60 ft, the north west corner is between 80 and 100 ft. viewer.nationalmap.gov/basic/?basemap=b1&category=ustopo&title=US%20Topo%20DownloadAs Boise Aztec has pointed out, bringing in dirt is not hard to build up areas as needed and create a grade that water will flow away from the stadium into a drainage system, or even underground ground drainage pits designed to hold overflow during periods of large rain fall. If the stadium is built below grade, then dirt will be excavated and reused in other areas of the development as needed. Park-like Drainage basin pits can be created if needed for runoff, and the River park isn't just for pretty pictures. All that open land creates a natural flood barrier that absorbs water as opposed to asphalt and concrete that retains water and doesn't allow water to seep back into the ground. When all else fails, bring out facts.  |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 30, 2017 15:56:46 GMT -8
I've actually enjoyed all the Soccer City fans and news media who have shown they are biased for Soccer City asking how will SDSU pay for this? SDSU doesn't know what they're doing and shouldn't be involved in development.
Yet, none of them have ever questioned how SDSU was going to pay for the half a billion dollars worth of construction they just did over the last 5 years on a completely built out campus right next to a neighborhood who hates SDSU development.
If anything, SDSU has shown they know how to get things built in SD and go through the entire process fromstart to finish without leap frogging the environmental review process. SDSU has shown they can raise money and fund construction projects and actually have proven results of doing so in San Diego. But let's question them and not the guys who haven't.
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Post by fisher1fan on Nov 30, 2017 15:57:01 GMT -8
My family of five (including Grammy and Bubba) are in for five tickets! Boom! I live out of state but will still get four season tickets. Can always donate to the military or local HS students |
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Post by aztecbrad on Nov 30, 2017 16:07:45 GMT -8
They need to add a temple where we sacrifice the opposing mascot before each game.
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Post by podpeople on Nov 30, 2017 16:13:51 GMT -8
there's no way that gets done in the next 5 years. that's a $#!+ load of construction. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 30, 2017 16:20:49 GMT -8
there's no way that gets done in the next 5 years. that's a $#!+ load of construction. I could be wrong but I believe they said yesterday it would be built in phases (maybe 3). Phase 1 would obviously be the stadium and I believe the river park and grading on the entire site. And really it would be less than 4 years as the vote is Nov 18 and the season starts Sept 2022. |
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Post by 94sdsu on Nov 30, 2017 17:00:24 GMT -8
I'd like to see some covered seating area as its damn hot during some of our games like our last one vs UNM and it'd be nice to be out of the sun (or rain).
Also, I thought they'd have to build the new stadium in the "A" parking lot section, but it appears they're sticking it in "D".
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Post by cvtower on Nov 30, 2017 17:18:08 GMT -8
I'd like to see some covered seating area as its damn hot during some of our games like our last one vs UNM and it'd be nice to be out of the sun (or rain). Also, I thought they'd have to build the new stadium in the "A" parking lot section, but it appears they're sticking it in "D". Of all the renderings, this one below caught my attention since it's the only one with the canopy-style roof on both sides. Reminds me a bit of Baylor's McLane Stadium in that sense  McLane Stadium (Baylor)  |
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Post by matteosandiego on Nov 30, 2017 17:20:03 GMT -8
there's no way that gets done in the next 5 years. that's a $#!+ load of construction. The stadium itself can get done absolutely. But just like PETCO park took phases, so will the development around it. But really the stadium itself if you look at it, isnt much compared to an NFL stadium or even these big college stadiums. |
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Post by badfish on Nov 30, 2017 17:34:57 GMT -8
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Post by aztecfan1 on Nov 30, 2017 18:31:14 GMT -8
My family of five (including Grammy and Bubba) are in for five tickets! Boom! You got that right buddy. Gives me a new incentive to live to this total dream come true . Go azteca!!! |
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 18:33:04 GMT -8
My family of five (including Grammy and Bubba) are in for five tickets! Boom! You got that right buddy. Gives me a new incentive to live to this total dream come true . Go azteca!!! You only need to make it for five more years. |
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Post by retiredaztec on Nov 30, 2017 18:41:18 GMT -8
Get the remaining signatures, put the proposal on the ballot and there you go....
badda bing badda boon..
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 18:47:42 GMT -8
Get the remaining signatures, put the proposal on the ballot and there you go.... badda bing badda boon.. yup, this deal is almost done. It is all academic now. |
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