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Post by badfish on Nov 30, 2017 10:52:41 GMT -8
If only everyone here could voice their same excitement on social media.
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Post by Den60 on Nov 30, 2017 10:55:43 GMT -8
Stadium currently budgeted at $250M which is $100M above what the university initially said they could budget. I don't see how they can expect to have the field 30' below grade which is being proposed to cut costs. At the current location of the Q you hit standing water within 2 feet. When the city looked at dropping the field at the Q they decided against it because it would require a very expensive active drainage system.
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 10:57:51 GMT -8
Stadium currently budgeted at $250M which is $100M above what the university initially said they could budget. I don't see how they can expect to have the field 30' below grade which is being proposed to cut costs. At the current location of the Q you hit standing water within 2 feet. When the city looked at dropping the field at the Q they decided against it because it would require a very expensive active drainage system. I know nothing about construction or development. But, I assume this cost was worked into the budget. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 30, 2017 10:58:35 GMT -8
The presentation and design were A+++++. The stadiums don't even compare. I need this stadium in my life so I can enjoy as the program takes a giant step forward. You want bigger conferences to pay attention this is the project and stadium to do that.
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Post by Den60 on Nov 30, 2017 11:09:46 GMT -8
Stadium currently budgeted at $250M which is $100M above what the university initially said they could budget. I don't see how they can expect to have the field 30' below grade which is being proposed to cut costs. At the current location of the Q you hit standing water within 2 feet. When the city looked at dropping the field at the Q they decided against it because it would require a very expensive active drainage system. I know nothing about construction or development. But, I assume this cost was worked into the budget. From December, 2010. You just don't dig down in an area prone to flooding:   |
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 11:10:34 GMT -8
I know nothing about construction or development. But, I assume this cost was worked into the budget. From December, 2010: I know. I was there for the P-Bowl a few days later. |
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Post by ptsdthor on Nov 30, 2017 11:23:28 GMT -8
I know nothing about construction or development. But, I assume this cost was worked into the budget. From December, 2010. You just don't dig down in an area prone to flooding: Good point but New Orleans is below the water line in many areas. If planned for and built correctly with barriers, drains and pumps, it can be done, I expect. Also, it may be one reason why the stadium is placed in the northwest corner of the plot. It seems to be one of the higher points in the area. |
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Post by sdsu2000 on Nov 30, 2017 11:27:45 GMT -8
Surface flow from the river won't be an issue because the deign of the project won't allow for it to get there otherwise the classrooms and restaurants would be flooded first. Now ground water could be an issue I guess but not to the magnitude of the photos but then again drains and underground parking structures will hinder that.
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 11:47:41 GMT -8
But, but, but, SDSU needs the Chargers! SDSU doesn't need dean spanos... but don't kid yourself to think sdsu wouldn't partner with an mls or nfl team build the stadium. 35k is too small for a big time program like sdsu. 45k is much better. See below. |
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 11:49:30 GMT -8
But, but, but, SDSU needs the Chargers! SDSU doesn't need dean spanos...
but don't kid yourself to think sdsu wouldn't partner with an mls or nfl team build the stadium.35k is too small for a big time program like sdsu. 45k is much better. Think big, become big. Sure, SDSU has said they want a partner. FS tried to screw them. It didn't work out. Oh well. |
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Post by hoobs on Nov 30, 2017 11:51:19 GMT -8
In those pics... note that the northwest corner, where the new stadium will be located, is at highest ground and "dry."
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Post by Den60 on Nov 30, 2017 11:59:44 GMT -8
Surface flow from the river won't be an issue because the deign of the project won't allow for it to get there otherwise the classrooms and restaurants would be flooded first. Now ground water could be an issue I guess but not to the magnitude of the photos but then again drains and underground parking structures will hinder that. Again, the water table is less than 2 feet below the current field level. Whenever you get any significant rain the field quickly becomes swampy. This proposal has them going 28' below the water table adjacent to a river. You can't "drain" uphill so you will have to have an active drainage system working 24/7/365. And it isn't just the field that will flood, you are looking at about 23' of seating area that would be below the water table. I do not expect them to build any classrooms, apartments or other occupied space below the water table though they likely will have some parking below grade that will be at risk of flooding when we get any significant rainfall. |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 30, 2017 12:05:55 GMT -8
In those pics... note that the northwest corner, where the new stadium will be located, is at highest ground and "dry." This and the ability to take the higher ground and build it up a little is no big deal... |
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Post by Boise Aztec on Nov 30, 2017 12:07:36 GMT -8
Surface flow from the river won't be an issue because the deign of the project won't allow for it to get there otherwise the classrooms and restaurants would be flooded first. Now ground water could be an issue I guess but not to the magnitude of the photos but then again drains and underground parking structures will hinder that. Again, the water table is less than 2 feet below the current field level. Whenever you get any significant rain the field quickly becomes swampy. This proposal has them going 28' below the water table adjacent to a river. You can't "drain" uphill so you will have to have an active drainage system working 24/7/365. And it isn't just the field that will flood, you are looking at about 23' of seating area that would be below the water table. I do not expect them to build any classrooms, apartments or other occupied space below the water table though they likely will have some parking below grade that will be at risk of flooding when we get any significant rainfall. Again, that is why they are choosing the NW Corner, the water table isn't at that level all over the area, water table are higher is some areas like next to the river and lower in other areas... Not a concern... |
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Post by fanhood on Nov 30, 2017 12:19:07 GMT -8
Stadium currently budgeted at $250M which is $100M above what the university initially said they could budget. I don't see how they can expect to have the field 30' below grade which is being proposed to cut costs. At the current location of the Q you hit standing water within 2 feet. When the city looked at dropping the field at the Q they decided against it because it would require a very expensive active drainage system. You should bid or work with the prime to become a sub-contractor the build-out. Sounds like you have experience in the field. |
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Post by Den60 on Nov 30, 2017 12:19:40 GMT -8
Again, the water table is less than 2 feet below the current field level. Whenever you get any significant rain the field quickly becomes swampy. This proposal has them going 28' below the water table adjacent to a river. You can't "drain" uphill so you will have to have an active drainage system working 24/7/365. And it isn't just the field that will flood, you are looking at about 23' of seating area that would be below the water table. I do not expect them to build any classrooms, apartments or other occupied space below the water table though they likely will have some parking below grade that will be at risk of flooding when we get any significant rainfall. Again, that is why they are choosing the NW Corner, the water table isn't at that level all over the area, water table are higher is some areas like next to the river and lower in other areas... Not a concern... Again, you don't have 30 feet anywhere on the site, not even close. And I am talking specifically as to where the stadium sits right now. Moving it over to the NW corner isn't going to be much more than a 2-3' difference if that. |
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Post by boblowe on Nov 30, 2017 12:19:43 GMT -8
Anyone know why parking spaces are so few? Obviously, they plan on many using the trolley, but I think the SDSU plan was 5K parking spots?
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Post by Den60 on Nov 30, 2017 12:23:19 GMT -8
Stadium currently budgeted at $250M which is $100M above what the university initially said they could budget. I don't see how they can expect to have the field 30' below grade which is being proposed to cut costs. At the current location of the Q you hit standing water within 2 feet. When the city looked at dropping the field at the Q they decided against it because it would require a very expensive active drainage system. You should bid or work with the prime to become a sub-contractor the build-out. Sounds like you have experience in the field. Well, I did work as an estimator for a construction company for 10 years but common sense generally tells people to build up if you're building in an area prone to flooding. |
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Post by sdsudevil on Nov 30, 2017 12:24:30 GMT -8
Needs to be a lot steeper. Hope that is tweaked.
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Post by pbnative on Nov 30, 2017 12:24:59 GMT -8
Again, that is why they are choosing the NW Corner, the water table isn't at that level all over the area, water table are higher is some areas like next to the river and lower in other areas... Not a concern... Again, you don't have 30 feet anywhere on the site, not even close. And I am talking specifically as to where the stadium sits right now. Moving it over to the NW corner isn't going to be much more than a 2-3' difference if that. 2 -3' ?? try 10 times that. Plus the flood waters in the picture will never reach the stadium the way they do with a massive water retaining parking lot that currently exists. Plus there are ways to easily mitigate the river overflow during heave rains. A good storm drainage system throughout the development will also remove massive amounts of water flow. As it currently sits, the stadium parking lot is basically a giant catch basin of standing water from all the run off from the surrounding area and streets. |
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