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Post by aztec70 on Nov 4, 2010 7:27:51 GMT -8
The democrats in the house are going to be far more liberal as a group than before. Very few of the members of the progressive caucus lost. It was the blue dogs that lost elections.
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Post by davdesid on Nov 4, 2010 15:21:15 GMT -8
This is good. We need a clear difference between freedom and serfdom. At least one blue dog survived. Heath Shuler. I hear he's going to run against the wicked witch for minority leader. He was a crummy football player and he's as dumb as a box of rocks. I hope the dumbass party selects him as their leader. At least we'll be rid if the botox witch. She can resign and run for mayor of...qu....oh never mind..... For your amusement: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKg |
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 4, 2010 20:15:52 GMT -8
He can run if he wants, of course. I can't imagine a blue dog winning minority leader. Why would any liberal vote for him? We will see if Pelosi wants to continue being a lightning rod.
It is good to see clear line between freedom and serfdom. We can depend on liberals fighting for liberty. That is how we get our name.
The clip was amusing.
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Post by AlwaysAnAztec on Nov 5, 2010 7:07:11 GMT -8
He can run if he wants, of course. I can't imagine a blue dog winning minority leader. Why would any liberal vote for him? We will see if Pelosi wants to continue being a lightning rod. It is good to see clear line between freedom and serfdom. We can depend on liberals fighting for liberty. That is how we get our name. The clip was amusing. +1 The goal of the republican party is to make the U.S. just like Russia during the time of the Czars.  |
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 5, 2010 11:12:47 GMT -8
He can run if he wants, of course. I can't imagine a blue dog winning minority leader. Why would any liberal vote for him? We will see if Pelosi wants to continue being a lightning rod. It is good to see clear line between freedom and serfdom. We can depend on liberals fighting for liberty. That is how we get our name. The clip was amusing. The question about if Pelosi wants to help the Republicans by staying in the spotlight as a "lightning rod" is being cheered by Republicans. |
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Post by davdesid on Nov 5, 2010 13:02:05 GMT -8
>>>We can depend on liberals fighting for liberty.<<<
Yewbet!
If you define a government forcing its citizens to purchase products they do not want to buy "liberty", I guess you're right.
The goal of the demagogue party is to make the US just like Russia under Lenin and Stalin.
Not gonna work. (that's a double entendre).
I hear Pelosi is going to run for minority leader. With an approval rating of about 8%, I hope she wins!
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Post by waztec on Nov 5, 2010 19:05:55 GMT -8
This is good. We need a clear difference between freedom and serfdom. At least one blue dog survived. Heath Shuler. I hear he's going to run against the wicked witch for minority leader. He was a crummy football player and he's as dumb as a box of rocks. I hope the dumbass party selects him as their leader. At least we'll be rid if the botox witch. She can resign and run for mayor of...qu....oh never mind..... For your amusement: www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHJoj9IqeKgWhat we need is a clear difference between corporations and human beings. A distinction made irrelevant by Citizens United. |
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Nov 9, 2010 17:17:25 GMT -8
This is good. We need a clear difference between freedom and serfdom. Ooh, "serfdom". Yeah, like someone who spent his entire life living off the DOD dole has any right to offer an opinion about "serfdom". Want change? How's about you offer us some solutions based upon cutting the most bloated military budget in the history of the world along with the most ridiculous retirement plan anyone has ever enjoyed? How is it that the right wingnuts can complain about me getting 2.6 percent retirement while people like Pooh get to retire at age 38 and get medical benefits for life? Why is it we need a military budget that's larger than than virtually the entire western democracy's combined simply because we have this overwhelming desire to be an empire? Of course, I don't expect you to understand any of this because you were part of the defense system and as such believe that every buck DOD spends is well spent, but quite frankly, I'm serious tired of spending my tax bucks to support the world's greatest welfare system. =Bob |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Nov 10, 2010 9:28:06 GMT -8
Conservatives who feed from the trough always support their benefits but want to deny everybody else theirs. As long as we have low IQ people trying to make a living in the United States we will need support systems for them and their offspring. It is totally unfair not to have those support systems in place. Right now, there are over a million teenagers and young adults on Social Security because they can not make it on their own.
Is there any other answer?
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Post by aztecwin on Nov 10, 2010 13:00:37 GMT -8
This is good. We need a clear difference between freedom and serfdom. Ooh, "serfdom". Yeah, like someone who spent his entire life living off the DOD dole has any right to offer an opinion about "serfdom". Want change? How's about you offer us some solutions based upon cutting the most bloated military budget in the history of the world along with the most ridiculous retirement plan anyone has ever enjoyed? How is it that the right wingnuts can complain about me getting 2.6 percent retirement while people like Pooh get to retire at age 38 and get medical benefits for life? Why is it we need a military budget that's larger than than virtually the entire western democracy's combined simply because we have this overwhelming desire to be an empire? Of course, I don't expect you to understand any of this because you were part of the defense system and as such believe that every buck DOD spends is well spent, but quite frankly, I'm serious tired of spending my tax bucks to support the world's greatest welfare system. =Bob We need more $800 hammers and less Dept of Education. ;)Why is it that losers and late comers to the debate never understand the real issues at hand? Of course DOD should be streamlined. Of course Dept of Education should be shut down. |
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Post by davdesid on Nov 10, 2010 15:31:04 GMT -8
This is good. We need a clear difference between freedom and serfdom. Ooh, "serfdom". Yeah, like someone who spent his entire life living off the DOD dole has any right to offer an opinion about "serfdom". Want change? How's about you offer us some solutions based upon cutting the most bloated military budget in the history of the world along with the most ridiculous retirement plan anyone has ever enjoyed? How is it that the right wingnuts can complain about me getting 2.6 percent retirement while people like Pooh get to retire at age 38 and get medical benefits for life? Why is it we need a military budget that's larger than than virtually the entire western democracy's combined simply because we have this overwhelming desire to be an empire? Of course, I don't expect you to understand any of this because you were part of the defense system and as such believe that every buck DOD spends is well spent, but quite frankly, I'm serious tired of spending my tax bucks to support the world's greatest welfare system. =Bob You get 2.6 percent? That's cool! I'm not bitching about that. The military formula is 2.5 percent, and yet you are bitching about that. Anyway, glad to see you back, =Perfesser. Hope you enjoyed your din-din on the 2nd.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2010 16:11:05 GMT -8
This is good. We need a clear difference between freedom and serfdom. Ooh, "serfdom". Yeah, like someone who spent his entire life living off the DOD dole has any right to offer an opinion about "serfdom". Want change? How's about you offer us some solutions based upon cutting the most bloated military budget in the history of the world along with the most ridiculous retirement plan anyone has ever enjoyed? How is it that the right wingnuts can complain about me getting 2.6 percent retirement while people like Pooh get to retire at age 38 and get medical benefits for life? Why is it we need a military budget that's larger than than virtually the entire western democracy's combined simply because we have this overwhelming desire to be an empire? Of course, I don't expect you to understand any of this because you were part of the defense system and as such believe that every buck DOD spends is well spent, but quite frankly, I'm serious tired of spending my tax bucks to support the world's greatest welfare system. =Bob The short answer is that we spend inordinate amounts of money so as to be able to protect our interests while simultaneously NOT killing people. Precision weapons and the C3I systems needed to manage their use and deployment are expensive. Training troops to use them is also expensive. The efforts associated with the "Hearts and Minds" peice of modern warfare also doesn't come cheap. Welcome to the American Empire....pick a fight with us and we'll vaccinate your goats and your kids, fix your teeth, pave your roads and build you an airport. LET THIS BE YOUR WARNING! |
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 11, 2010 0:46:51 GMT -8
Ooh, "serfdom". Yeah, like someone who spent his entire life living off the DOD dole has any right to offer an opinion about "serfdom". Want change? How's about you offer us some solutions based upon cutting the most bloated military budget in the history of the world along with the most ridiculous retirement plan anyone has ever enjoyed? How is it that the right wingnuts can complain about me getting 2.6 percent retirement while people like Pooh get to retire at age 38 and get medical benefits for life? Why is it we need a military budget that's larger than than virtually the entire western democracy's combined simply because we have this overwhelming desire to be an empire? Of course, I don't expect you to understand any of this because you were part of the defense system and as such believe that every buck DOD spends is well spent, but quite frankly, I'm serious tired of spending my tax bucks to support the world's greatest welfare system. =Bob The short answer is that we spend inordinate amounts of money so as to be able to protect our interests while simultaneously NOT killing people. Precision weapons and the C3I systems needed to manage their use and deployment are expensive. Training troops to use them is also expensive. The efforts associated with the "Hearts and Minds" peice of modern warfare also doesn't come cheap. Welcome to the American Empire....pick a fight with us and we'll vaccinate your goats and your kids, fix your teeth, pave your roads and build you an airport. LET THIS BE YOUR WARNING! NOT killing people? The comedy never stops. ;D |
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Post by The Great Aztec Joe on Nov 11, 2010 7:08:10 GMT -8
NOT killing people? The comedy never stops. ;D BLOODTHIRSTY MURDERERS! The damned Republicans have taken us down the wrong pathway. It is time to totally do away with National Defense. Eliminate the Army, Navy and Air Force. Let the states maintain their militias. Think of all of the Trillions of wasted money would no longer be spend on killing innocent people. No more napalming little girls in VietNam. No more blowing up of houses with whole familits in Pakistan. Damn the Republicans and their rampant Murder of innocents. Damn them to high holy hell. |
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Post by davdesid on Nov 11, 2010 13:58:57 GMT -8
The short answer is that we spend inordinate amounts of money so as to be able to protect our interests while simultaneously NOT killing people. Precision weapons and the C3I systems needed to manage their use and deployment are expensive. Training troops to use them is also expensive. The efforts associated with the "Hearts and Minds" peice of modern warfare also doesn't come cheap. Welcome to the American Empire....pick a fight with us and we'll vaccinate your goats and your kids, fix your teeth, pave your roads and build you an airport. LET THIS BE YOUR WARNING! NOT killing people? The comedy never stops. ;D Well, they DO try... blog.usnavyseals.com/2010/05/military-medal-for-courageous-restraint.htmlP.S. Happy Veterans Day |
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 13, 2010 9:38:05 GMT -8
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Post by Bob Forsythe on Nov 18, 2010 15:57:38 GMT -8
Ooh, "serfdom". Yeah, like someone who spent his entire life living off the DOD dole has any right to offer an opinion about "serfdom". Want change? How's about you offer us some solutions based upon cutting the most bloated military budget in the history of the world along with the most ridiculous retirement plan anyone has ever enjoyed? How is it that the right wingnuts can complain about me getting 2.6 percent retirement while people like Pooh get to retire at age 38 and get medical benefits for life? Why is it we need a military budget that's larger than than virtually the entire western democracy's combined simply because we have this overwhelming desire to be an empire? Of course, I don't expect you to understand any of this because you were part of the defense system and as such believe that every buck DOD spends is well spent, but quite frankly, I'm serious tired of spending my tax bucks to support the world's greatest welfare system. =Bob You get 2.6 percent? That's cool! I'm not bitching about that. The military formula is 2.5 percent, and yet you are bitching about that. Anyway, glad to see you back, =Perfesser. Only difference is I had to be 56 before I got that. How old does a lifer have to be to get 2.5? Pooh retired at age 38 after spending 20 years floating on boats and ordering supplies. Yup, that's really offering the best fiscal scenario. =Bob |
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Post by aztec70 on Nov 18, 2010 18:31:28 GMT -8
You get 2.6 percent? That's cool! I'm not bitching about that. The military formula is 2.5 percent, and yet you are bitching about that. Anyway, glad to see you back, =Perfesser. Only difference is I had to be 56 before I got that. How old does a lifer have to be to get 2.5? Pooh retired at age 38 after spending 20 years floating on boats and ordering supplies. Yup, that's really offering the best fiscal scenario. =Bob For some reason I think win was a kiddy cruiser. |
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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 18, 2010 20:28:48 GMT -8
Bob, I agree with you that we could streamline our national defense and thereby save a lot of taxpayer money. On the other hand, it's unseemly to take personal shots at another AztecMesa member on the grounds that he served his country and took advantage of the benefits offered by the government. I'm wondering what you feel he should have done; declined to serve or, once having served and retired, declined to accept his monthly pension checks.
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Post by AztecWilliam on Nov 18, 2010 22:40:37 GMT -8
Or should he be banned from exercising his right of free speech because he is a military veteran? By the way, Bob, for the record, I retired at age 60 and continue to teach (as a substitute) about 50 days a year, which for a teacher is close to 1/3 time. I hope my free speech bona fides are in order.  AzWm |
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