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Post by mightymightyaztecs on Feb 6, 2016 19:55:54 GMT -8
Our coaches recruit very athletic guys not the " Jimmers" . Take a look back at our best teams - with K. Leonard , White , M.Thomas , .... did have Chase T as a quality shooter but that was not our main strength and has not been since then Our team this year continues that style of play . Our forwards and even the 5's , have dominated most teams in the MW this year , when they move and we can get them the ball . Look at Skylar's and Angelo's production and FG%. We are Not a good three point shooting team , so maybe try D.Williams to help get the guys down low the ball rather then guys just taking threes . or give Malik a try at SG - his D is even better then Matt's now . Look at the stats again . What is our % on threes and % of two point shots . We kill the other team down low ,even though every other team has zoned us . They would prefer that we keep trying threes rather then work the ball inside where they have a very difficult time defending us . So it is not changing our offense , just realizing what we are good at and doing it even better . Let's be real, our program lacks a quality shooting coach. The Spurs fixed Kawhi's form over the course of a couple of weeks during the lockout and now he's one of the league leaders in all three categories (50.7% 2FG / 47.8 3PT% / 87.9 FT). There's a reason why vaunted shooters come here and lose their touch but become lockdown defenders. I don't really mind, we've built our identity and program on defense. Would love if some day we could snag an NBA level shooting coach though.
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Post by aztecforlife29 on Feb 6, 2016 20:55:57 GMT -8
Velazquez is the shooting coach, right?
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Post by Aztec Empire on Feb 6, 2016 21:20:50 GMT -8
Shrigs has demons right now. He is definitely in his head. Can't believe he didn't rattle a few of those home.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 7, 2016 0:04:54 GMT -8
How has he "hurt us quite a bit"? He was 0-4 in the last game, but he's not taking minutes from someone who's been 2-4 of late. He's basically taking a few minutes from Perez, and maybe a couple from someone else (if that), and he brings a lot more defensively than Perez who's 2-18 from 3 in conference play.
He definitely didn't cost us against UNLV. You could say the only time he really "hurt us" would the TO against Nevada, but you could find something like that for everyone, including the guy(s) he's taking any time from.
If he were taking bad shots or making bad plays at critical times, then maybe. But he's not.
The only really "bad" thing he's really done, other than that 1 TO, is get posterized & shown on ESPN over & over.
He's scored 0 points on 36 minutes, he did play good defense in a stretch last game (whole second unit did well chol not great), but he's not an impact defender and struggled defensively before that. Someone above said he wasn't good defensively in that game so maybe I'm off. And yes Ben Perez would make a considerable difference in score if given those minutes. Hopefully Shrigley gets up to speed before the end of the year, but it is far from a certain thing. Look at the seasons Chandler Parsons/Wesley Matthews are having (yes I'm a mavs fan), these kind of injuries of which based on timetable Shrigley may have been rushed back from can take a long time to get back to form from. What makes you think Perez would make a difference? First, disagree on Shrigs D. You're obviously entitled to your opinion but completely disagree, and no doubt he's a significant improvement over Perez on D. Plus, Perez is 2-18 from 3. He's been terrible in conference. Shrigs upside is much higher. At least for this year (and next). Yes, hope he gets up to speed. He's looked good in practice.
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Post by moctezumaii on Feb 7, 2016 6:39:07 GMT -8
He's scored 0 points on 36 minutes, he did play good defense in a stretch last game (whole second unit did well chol not great), but he's not an impact defender and struggled defensively before that. Someone above said he wasn't good defensively in that game so maybe I'm off. And yes Ben Perez would make a considerable difference in score if given those minutes. Hopefully Shrigley gets up to speed before the end of the year, but it is far from a certain thing. Look at the seasons Chandler Parsons/Wesley Matthews are having (yes I'm a mavs fan), these kind of injuries of which based on timetable Shrigley may have been rushed back from can take a long time to get back to form from. What makes you think Perez would make a difference? First, disagree on Shrigs D. You're obviously entitled to your opinion but completely disagree, and no doubt he's a significant improvement over Perez on D. Plus, Perez is 2-18 from 3. He's been terrible in conference. Shrigs upside is much higher. At least for this year (and next). Yes, hope he gets up to speed. He's looked good in practice. "I mean, listen, we're talking about practice, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about practice. . . What are we talking about? Practice? We're talking about practice, man. [laughter from the media crowd] We're talking about practice." A. Iverson
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Post by 83aztec on Feb 7, 2016 6:51:08 GMT -8
Watch Shrigley shoot yesterday. He does not use his legs like he should. Mostly using his arms to shoot. Also not shooting in rhythm. He is not fully back yet.
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Post by enriquesdsualum on Feb 7, 2016 7:04:42 GMT -8
I wonder if Kawhi could give our staff pointers on what the Spurs did to him? I mean his shot improved tremendously the minute he left SDSU while still being the best defender in the NBA.
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Post by sdsu2000 on Feb 7, 2016 10:07:38 GMT -8
Shrigley is going to keep shooting and will find his form & rhythm. Then either on some road game or the MW Tournament when it's needed most he's going to drop 4.
The guy came back unbelievably fast and it's going to take a month or two to get it going again.
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Post by mightymightyaztecs on Feb 7, 2016 11:46:38 GMT -8
I wonder if Kawhi could give our staff pointers on what the Spurs did to him? I mean his shot improved tremendously the minute he left SDSU while still being the best defender in the NBA. Good article on it (skip down). "Kawhi Leonard made the old Tony Parker look like a long-lost Korver brother. As DraftExpress noted before the 2011 lottery, virtually every one of Leonard’s shooting metrics from his time at San Diego State were abysmal. Among the 17 wing prospects the site evaluated before the draft, Leonard was 15th in points per possession, 16th in points per shot on jumpers, 15th in points per possession on isolations, and dead last in adjusted field goal percentage. He shot just 32 percent on catch-and-shoot jumpers and 28 percent on pull-ups. While Leonard was still considered a talented player and was only 19 on draft day, his primary contributions at the professional level — at least at first — were expected to come from his defense, effort, and rebounding."
and from a different piece“What helped with Kawhi … the previous year, Richard Jefferson, we had changed his shot. He had a similar shot, behind his head. The draft happened and Kawhi comes here, and we have to talk to him. A shot’s very personal. It’s not easy to change your shot. We came up with a couple things, and he was all ears. He wants to get better. We saw that right away. He was very interested in improving. I showed him pictures of Richard, and pictures of himself. They both had this (mimics the behind-the-head form). Richard was 30 years old when he changed his shot. We thought Kawhi could change, too. And then we used Kobe Bryant. We both grew up in Southern California. He grew up watching Kobe play. Kobe has a beautiful form, technically really sound. We used him as a model – that release point and shot. Those four days, he practiced and said, OK I’m going to take this and do it over the summer.”
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Post by aztecanthony on Feb 7, 2016 21:07:02 GMT -8
If you want this team to do anything in the postseason, Shrigs has got to drain 'em. Once that first one goes in, that rim will seem that much bigger. Keep shooting, Matt -- just like the gym back at LCC. From what I hear about Matt's HS scoring is that he was more of a slasher scorer than shooter. His transformation to spot shooter at D-1 level has not materialized. I hope it will soon but pure shooters are a rare breed, tough to morph into one.
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Post by johneaztec on Feb 7, 2016 21:38:18 GMT -8
Shrigley is going to keep shooting and will find his form & rhythm. Then either on some road game or the MW Tournament when it's needed most he's going to drop 4. The guy came back unbelievably fast and it's going to take a month or two to get it going again. Exactly. He needs to keep shooting, then come tournament time he'll hit some big ones for us.
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Post by C'mon Man on Feb 9, 2016 0:09:23 GMT -8
I wonder if Kawhi could give our staff pointers on what the Spurs did to him? I mean his shot improved tremendously the minute he left SDSU while still being the best defender in the NBA. Good article on it (skip down). "Kawhi Leonard made the old Tony Parker look like a long-lost Korver brother. As DraftExpress noted before the 2011 lottery, virtually every one of Leonard’s shooting metrics from his time at San Diego State were abysmal. Among the 17 wing prospects the site evaluated before the draft, Leonard was 15th in points per possession, 16th in points per shot on jumpers, 15th in points per possession on isolations, and dead last in adjusted field goal percentage. He shot just 32 percent on catch-and-shoot jumpers and 28 percent on pull-ups. While Leonard was still considered a talented player and was only 19 on draft day, his primary contributions at the professional level — at least at first — were expected to come from his defense, effort, and rebounding."
and from a different piece“What helped with Kawhi … the previous year, Richard Jefferson, we had changed his shot. He had a similar shot, behind his head. The draft happened and Kawhi comes here, and we have to talk to him. A shot’s very personal. It’s not easy to change your shot. We came up with a couple things, and he was all ears. He wants to get better. We saw that right away. He was very interested in improving. I showed him pictures of Richard, and pictures of himself. They both had this (mimics the behind-the-head form). Richard was 30 years old when he changed his shot. We thought Kawhi could change, too. And then we used Kobe Bryant. We both grew up in Southern California. He grew up watching Kobe play. Kobe has a beautiful form, technically really sound. We used him as a model – that release point and shot. Those four days, he practiced and said, OK I’m going to take this and do it over the summer.”
This is a little off topic but after the recent Spurs Lakers game coach Popovich asked Kobe if he would work with Kawhi this offseason and Kobe said he definitely would, especially since they're both in southern California during the offseason. I'm excited to see what that can do to Kawhi's game if Kobe can instill some of that killer mentality into Kawhi's head.
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Post by azdick on Feb 9, 2016 12:07:23 GMT -8
I wonder if Kawhi could give our staff pointers on what the Spurs did to him? I mean his shot improved tremendously the minute he left SDSU while still being the best defender in the NBA. Yours is a misstatement. KL has improved his shooting EACH YEAR since he left, but was still a raw shooter as a rook. His shooting improvement is the result of good instruction, but more importantly, the thousands of jump shot practice attempts that this gym rat takes. When you leave college you are free to hone your skills without having to worry about classes, and the many time constraints associated with being in school, living on a small stipend that barely allows you to eat. The reality is that KL is and was a tremendous talent who has dedicated his life to his craft. His abilities are the result of dedication unlike anyone has seen recently. He is a breed apart.
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 9, 2016 12:20:10 GMT -8
I wonder if Kawhi could give our staff pointers on what the Spurs did to him? I mean his shot improved tremendously the minute he left SDSU while still being the best defender in the NBA. Yours is a misstatement. KL has improved his shooting EACH YEAR since he left, but was still a raw shooter as a rook. His shooting improvement is the result of good instruction, but more importantly, the thousands of jump shot practice attempts that this gym rat takes. When you leave college you are free to hone your skills without having to worry about classes, and the many time constraints associated with being in school, living on a small stipend that barely allows you to eat. The reality is that KL is and was a tremendous talent who has dedicated his life to his craft. His abilities are the result of dedication unlike anyone has seen recently. He is a breed apart. Bingo.
Plus, they're limited on the # of hours a year (staff) coaches are allowed to work with them. Our coaches aren't allowed enough time with them to rework their shot. That's something THEY have to do. THEY have to be dedicated enough to rework/refine shots on their own time.
Sky hired a shooting coach, and worked on it on his own time. The staff just worked with him in doing so, but if he only changed it & worked on it when our coaches were allowed to work with him it'd be a mess right now. Not enough time. HE made it happen.
As a pro you have all day, and you have money to hire guys as well.
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Post by csfoster on Feb 9, 2016 12:26:17 GMT -8
We are 11-0 without Shrigley hitting a shot in conference. Keep Shooting Shrigley!!!
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Post by northcountymike on Feb 9, 2016 13:40:36 GMT -8
Yours is a misstatement. KL has improved his shooting EACH YEAR since he left, but was still a raw shooter as a rook. His shooting improvement is the result of good instruction, but more importantly, the thousands of jump shot practice attempts that this gym rat takes. When you leave college you are free to hone your skills without having to worry about classes, and the many time constraints associated with being in school, living on a small stipend that barely allows you to eat. The reality is that KL is and was a tremendous talent who has dedicated his life to his craft. His abilities are the result of dedication unlike anyone has seen recently. He is a breed apart. Bingo.
Plus, they're limited on the # of hours a year (staff) coaches are allowed to work with them. Our coaches aren't allowed enough time with them to rework their shot. That's something THEY have to do. THEY have to be dedicated enough to rework/refine shots on their own time.
Sky hired a shooting coach, and worked on it on his own time. The staff just worked with him in doing so, but if he only changed it & worked on it when our coaches were allowed to work with him it'd be a mess right now. Not enough time. HE made it happen.
As a pro you have all day, and you have money to hire guys as well.
How did he have the money for it? I thought these guys weren't allowed to have jobs .
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Post by standiego on Feb 9, 2016 13:55:33 GMT -8
Coach Dutcher on the tying shot in the Aztec game on Saturday . During the time out Coach Dutcher suggested Aztecs better put their best 3 point shooter in . So he put Malik in .
If we could have 1 guy get hot from three point area IMO - it would be Malik .
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Post by sdcoug on Feb 9, 2016 14:22:01 GMT -8
Coach Dutcher on the tying shot in the Aztec game on Saturday . During the time out Coach Dutcher suggested Aztecs better put their best 3 point shooter in . So he put Malik in . If we could have 1 guy get hot from three point area IMO - it would be Malik . Actually he suggested putting Malik in for Z; he didn't suggest putting in our best 3 point shooter. They play the same position.
Malik in that spot (over Z, Shrigs, DA, etc.) works on many levels - he can pass over/around the defense easier (if Trey gets open), he's more capable of creating his own 3 point shot if push comes to shove, and he's definitely a better 3-point shooter than Z, even if he was 0 for his last 5.
We can hope that helps catapult Pope into BEING our best 3-point shooter; something he hasn't been this year. Especially at home.
Terrific move by Dutch, and most importantly it was good that he encouraged him to take the shot if available rather than focusing just on making the right pass.
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Post by standiego on Feb 9, 2016 18:34:15 GMT -8
According to Dutcher they needed to put the team's best outside shooter in and that was Malik. The play originally was going to be a double screen , three, for Trey but he could not get open . JH was another option to drive or shoot . Zylan did come out. But they could have also put in another shooter if they wanted but decided Malik was the guy . Malik also got some rebounds and has really made improvements on D .
Trey , JH and Malik give the team numerous shooters but even more important is doing what we do best and whom the coaches recruited athletic guys that can take it to the basket.
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