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Post by whitehawk on Sept 15, 2015 18:37:59 GMT -8
They should not listen to faceless comments.....but they do. I have found over the years that when I ask negative posters to meet me, they never show up. And my point is that this behavior is wrong. Why do you want to meet negative posters? Now I see your agenda. Do you also ask to meet other people from other forums who disagree with you and post negative things about other topics? Why in the world would someone risk such danger? They likely took your invitation as a threat of harm. Let's be VERY clear here. This is suppose to be a forum for "Aztec fans and alumni." I could be wrong, but it sounds like what longtimesdsufan is posting is that he wanted to talk with fellow Aztec fans/alumni to talk about the Aztecs. LOL! This isn't Raiders University. The thing that boggles my mind is how we all want to support Aztec Athletics, but when it comes to differing opinions on players, coaches, schemes, SDSU administrators, etc, it is just like driving in rush-hour traffic. People will drop some insidious actions/reactions in traffic while driving a car, but as soon as they are face to face, that wall is gone. This should be a discussion among the Aztec family. We should see each other as just that: family. I tell you true, I've never been a fan of the Chargers, but I was in Edinburgh back in '95, walked by a guy who was wearing a Chargers Super Bowl shirt, and I had to stop and ask if he was from San Diego. Within seconds, the divide among a random person walking down the street was broken. It is very rare for me to walk around San Diego and see someone wearing some Aztec gear. If I see it, I always will at least say, "Go Aztecs!" I don't agree with all of you, and I don't expect all of you to agree with me, but at the end of the day, we all want to see San Diego State succeed. In my opinion, that is what this thread was intended to point out: what are we doing as a collective that is hurting/helping Aztec Athletics. Ultimately, none of us are on the field throwing/catching the ball or calling the plays, so it all comes down to what is it that we, as fans and alumni, can do to support the Athletic department as individuals, and quite possibly more powerfully, as a collective group. GO AZTECS!!! BEAT USA!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2015 18:45:44 GMT -8
The correct answser is C.) - Recruits don't give a rip about what anyone who isn't a current or former player or coach has to say on a message board, and since players and coaches don't post on message boards the recruits couldn't care in the least what is posted on message boards. Anyone who thinks that a prospective recruit reads boards like this one and bases his decision even in part on what is posted on that board is delusional. We do NOT have that kind of power or influence. Not even a little. At the risk of me getting banned or some such I will write the following. it is not an attack on your person, just a question about your actions. So let me get this straight... You start a poll thread asking a question you have a strong opinion about and then you tell anyone who disagrees with your opinion that they are delusional. Some might consider that a personal attack, no? For the record, I didn't answer the poll question. I think polls are a waste of time especially this one but I am entertained by this fan board. Edit note: After reading further in the thread I now see you didn't start the poll, you only modified it some.
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Post by longtimesdsufan on Sept 15, 2015 18:46:45 GMT -8
They should not listen to faceless comments.....but they do. I have found over the years that when I ask negative posters to meet me, they never show up. And my point is that this behavior is wrong. Why do you want to meet negative posters? Now I see your agenda. Do you also ask to meet other people from other forums who disagree with you and post negative things about other topics? Why in the world would someone risk such danger? They likely took your invitation as a threat of harm. Why is there such fear about meeting in person and improving the communication instead of a faceless forum? The point of the thread, before it was changed, was what would you say to Rocky in person. When people get together and talk thing out, things get better. At least that is my opinion. Maybe we both change a little bit. However, it can create respect.
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Post by pbnative on Sept 15, 2015 19:17:53 GMT -8
Aztec Mesa, Where Aztec fans have thier say (modified, moved, or deleted).
That saying is a bit narcissistic anyway. Wonder who came up with it. lol
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Post by myownwords on Sept 15, 2015 19:42:06 GMT -8
Why do you want to meet negative posters? Now I see your agenda. Do you also ask to meet other people from other forums who disagree with you and post negative things about other topics? Why in the world would someone risk such danger? They likely took your invitation as a threat of harm. Why is there such fear about meeting in person and improving the communication instead of a faceless forum? The point of the thread, before it was changed, was what would you say to Rocky in person. When people get together and talk thing out, things get better. At least that is my opinion. Maybe we both change a little bit. However, it can create respect. I have to say, this is a tad odd.
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 15, 2015 20:22:04 GMT -8
Why do you want to meet negative posters? Now I see your agenda. Do you also ask to meet other people from other forums who disagree with you and post negative things about other topics? Why in the world would someone risk such danger? They likely took your invitation as a threat of harm. Why is there such fear about meeting in person and improving the communication instead of a faceless forum? The point of the thread, before it was changed, was what would you say to Rocky in person. When people get together and talk thing out, things get better. At least that is my opinion. Maybe we both change a little bit. However, it can create respect. Given violence in society today it's never a smart thing to get together with a total stranger with whom you have had strong disagreements online. That's why people might take your view as a little unusual. And if I had a chance to talk to Rocky again I'd tell him that while I was happy with what he did as DC and what he did in his first two years as HC I am disappointed that he hasn't been able to recruit good QB's or WR's. And that the program hasn't even been treading water. I'd ask him what his plan to get the program to the next level is, and why he hasn't been able to achieve that goal given five years as HC. (Remember, he took over a healthy program, not a reclamation project.)
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 15, 2015 20:23:24 GMT -8
Aztec Mesa, Where Aztec fans have thier say (modified, moved, or deleted). That saying is a bit narcissistic anyway. Wonder who came up with it. lol Actually, it wasn't me. If I'm not mistaken it was either Aztec William or one of our contributors who came up with an early banner.
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Post by bagtec on Sept 15, 2015 20:25:06 GMT -8
Aztec Mesa, Where Aztec fans have thier say (modified, moved, or deleted). That saying is a bit narcissistic anyway. Wonder who came up with it. lol Unless it serves the certain peoples agenda
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Post by sdcoug on Sept 15, 2015 23:39:24 GMT -8
[/p] Recruiting is about a vibe; often a school can overcome negativity on a message board, but when push comes to shove it definitely can have an influence if 2 schools are similar.
[/quote] And I firmly believe that is ludicrous. Completely absurd. Most people don't even know Aztec Mesa (or any other message board for college athletics) exists. We have a couple hundred active members out of a community of two million people. It's not like word is spreading like wildfire... And even if we were the biggest thing since sliced bread we are still just fans voicing opinions. I know that supporters of the current regime want to squash dissent, but this has just gotten ridiculous.[/quote] Yet somehow quotes from here find their way into the UT. As a parent of a recruit, you Google the university or sports boards related to the universities you're considering. They SEEK out info about athletics at the University which makes a small universe more relevant unfortunately. If you believe that fine, but you have several here who have heard it first hand. Most familiar with the boards (like the administration) discount the lunatics, but parents (& some players) don't have the background. Again, it's a minor impact yet it can and DOES impact some. What has "gotten ridiculous" is someone who claims to be a moderator forcing his will on a board. Being relatively new to this board I'm actually shocked to find out you're a mod here. Yea, there only may be "a couple hundred" here but it's apparent you're doing your best to keep that number low. Nicely done.
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Post by HighNTight on Sept 16, 2015 0:37:06 GMT -8
It's not Barkboard bad yet ... but its getting there
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Post by The Aztec Panther on Sept 16, 2015 4:00:00 GMT -8
Recruiting is about a vibe; often a school can overcome negativity on a message board, but when push comes to shove it definitely can have an influence if 2 schools are similar.
And I firmly believe that is ludicrous. Completely absurd. Most people don't even know Aztec Mesa (or any other message board for college athletics) exists. We have a couple hundred active members out of a community of two million people. It's not like word is spreading like wildfire... And even if we were the biggest thing since sliced bread we are still just fans voicing opinions. I know that supporters of the current regime want to squash dissent, but this has just gotten ridiculous. Because the writer of the column is a member or a lurker here. His points are almost verbatim what some of Rocky's most ardent supporters have been posting here for the last 3 years. The last place an intelligent person should seek out information about athletics at any university is from a message board. You don't know who is posting on a message board and anyone claiming to have inside information is questionable at best because of the anonymity of message boards. Not exactly the most reliable of sources. Lunatics? It was the AD who was the lunatic when we were trying to get rid of CHUCK Long. He stubbornly held on to his hire and didn't want to let him go - but the, "Lunatics," forced his hand. Jeff Schemmel didn't want to fire Chuck. But the message board fans went on a letter writing (and e-mail) campaign going over his head, and the boosters let him know that they wouldn't support keeping Chuck, either. It isn't accurate (or reasonable) to say that people who are able to point out multiple specific, logical reasons why they won't support a coach beyond a certain point are lunatics.
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Post by alohaboarder on Sept 16, 2015 4:38:34 GMT -8
We are not the only school with a message board.
Most teams have 5-6 different boards.
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Post by untitled on Sept 16, 2015 6:47:26 GMT -8
Some unlv fan on reddit said everyone on here agrees that Hutson is the assistant being investigated. So yeah it leads to rumors which lead to incorrect statements taken as fact
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Post by gigglyforshrigley on Sept 16, 2015 6:51:12 GMT -8
Who knows if it hurts recruiting or not, but repeating the same BS all the time is annoying at the least. All the people perpetually repeating the same negative nonsense is exhausting to read over and over again. At least come up with new material. That goes for the cheerleaders who think Rocky and Fisher can do no wrong also
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Post by ab on Sept 16, 2015 6:59:30 GMT -8
Every AD that we've had has always said that the message boards are too negative. My response was always, it's a reality board. If the team (hoops) wins and wins big, there's very few negative posts. If the team is mediocre or loses when they "shouldn't" then the boards go negative. It's just a mirror of the reality of what is going on with the teams, coaches,and players. Win enough and the negativity goes away.
But, I do think recruits and their parents read these boards and it can adversely affect recruiting certain student athletes. Others don't care or they use it as motivation. It is what it is and after all these years of reading and posting on various Aztec boards, I don't see it changing.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 16, 2015 7:43:23 GMT -8
LMAO @ the idea some top athlete is reading our message boards thinking, "I was just about to fax my letter of intent when I read some posters say mean things about Rocky Long. Screw SDSU, I'm going to Boise, because they have nicer fans on the internet."
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Post by myownwords on Sept 16, 2015 7:46:19 GMT -8
LMAO @ the idea some top athlete is reading our message boards thinking, "I was just about to fax my letter of intent when I read some posters say mean things about Rocky Long. Screw SDSU, I'm going to Boise, because they have nicer fans on the internet." Agreed, and logical to me. Truth is, apparently no one has taken the initiative to analyze this, and I suspect it's because no one in a position to do so, cares.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 16, 2015 7:46:45 GMT -8
Honey Badger is mean to me. I'm transferring back to Utah.
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Post by sdsustoner on Sept 16, 2015 7:48:27 GMT -8
LMAO @ the idea some top athlete is reading our message boards thinking, "I was just about to fax my letter of intent when I read some posters say mean things about Rocky Long. Screw SDSU, I'm going to Boise, because they have nicer fans on the internet." Agreed, and logical to me. Truth is, apparently no one has taken the initiative to analyze this, and I suspect it's because no one in a position to do so, cares. Because in reality, who the hell wants some mental wuss rattled by internet posters on a fan board?
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Post by myownwords on Sept 16, 2015 7:52:42 GMT -8
Agreed, and logical to me. Truth is, apparently no one has taken the initiative to analyze this, and I suspect it's because no one in a position to do so, cares. Because in reality, who the hell wants some mental wuss rattled by internet posters on a fan board? Wisdom, right there.
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