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Post by missiontrails on Jul 23, 2024 9:40:00 GMT -8
Jamaal's self-ally-oop, Strasburg's no-hitter, basketball vs. Kansas, Marshall destroying USC on national television. And none of those got us the the national championship. Those were flashy and big moments for sdsu fans, but not for the national stage and not for out exposure to the national. The Butler shot was the single greatest play/shot/moment in school history. It wasn't just a great Aztec moment, but it was one of the greatest moments in NCAA tourney history. In MySTRAS' defense, I think he was just adding more to the list I started of great Aztec moments. I don't believe he was implying they were better than Butler's shining moment. |
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Post by rockshow on Jul 23, 2024 9:56:50 GMT -8
There should be two Mt.Rushmores. One for athletes and one for coaches and administraters. One would be Marshall Faulk, Tony Gwynn, Lamont Butler (for the shot) and Steven Strasburg. The other should be Don Coryell, Steve Fisher, Dr. Steven Webster and Dutcher. All of those have elevated SDSU in the national spotlight. Without coach Coryell we would have been just another Long Beach State. With our President Weber we wouldn't enjoy the athletic support from the college administration and the raise in academics the University continues to grow nationally. Agreed. Trying to compare Steve Fisher and Don Coryell to Xander Shauffele and Marshall Faulk is just weird and should be separated into two different conversations. Now Tony was dominant in baseball and basketball while on campus, and while as a coach he wasn't legendary, some of our best teams this century were under his watch. And of course after college he went on to play his whole 20 year hall of fame career 8 minutes from campus. So he's the rare crossover in all the important categories which cements him as the greatest Aztec ever. |
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Post by tecsonthebeach on Jul 23, 2024 10:45:55 GMT -8
I looked up Tony Gwynn and saw that the Padres selected him in the 3rd round. Wow, talk about a sleeper pick.
For those of you who were following Gwynn’s SDSU career at the time, did you have a sense that he was going to be an outstanding player in the big leagues?
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Post by zurac315 on Jul 23, 2024 12:35:00 GMT -8
Athletic Director Bill Terry who hired Don Coryell and Malcolm Love who approved the hire.  |
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Jul 23, 2024 12:55:18 GMT -8
There is no hate from me directed towards Butler...he is a tremendous college player who spent 4 years as an Aztec player...but...
He is not an "Aztec-for-Life" since he is now a Kentucky Wildcat...he didn't get traded or cut...he quit the Aztecs to move on to get paid more...he is an "Aztec-for-a few years" and I appreciated that he was a member of the Aztecs while he was here...and I'm happy for him that he's getting more money at Kentucky.
Aztecs Mt. Rushmore is, in my opinion, reserved for only for "Aztec-for-Life" players so Butler doesn't even qualify.
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Post by Den60 on Jul 23, 2024 13:30:05 GMT -8
I looked up Tony Gwynn and saw that the Padres selected him in the 3rd round. Wow, talk about a sleeper pick. For those of you who were following Gwynn’s SDSU career at the time, did you have a sense that he was going to be an outstanding player in the big leagues? He wasn't known as a good defender and not really a power hitter. Once in the pros, he worked hard on his defense and because a good right fielder. For me, I am looking at those players and coaches who did the most to elevate the public's view of the school which includes their careers after leaving SDSU. |
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Post by Den60 on Jul 23, 2024 13:37:31 GMT -8
Fair, but I was just one year old then and my memory of the Aztec season is a little fuzzy. Understandable. You kids have a limited view of history.  (To be so young again, sigh.) Actually all of us tend to view history only by what we have experienced during our lifetime. I know there were some great Aztec players before my time, but I tend to not put them in my all time greatest list because I never saw them play and have no way to value their achievements. You had listed as one of Fisher's accomplishments as " built the program from nothing." I just wanted to point out, and add to your list, the fact that Coryell also " built the program from nothing." Just wait till you get my age and you memory of yesterday's breakfast is a little fuzzy.
Yes, that I didn't know. I did go to some Aztec games as a child but family had Chargers season tickets and my dad often worked 6 days a week as well. I know Coryell more from the Chargers than the Aztecs all though I did like Dennis Shaw since we share the same first name. A little tidbit. One day I was going to my barber at the top of Avocado Road in the Mt. Helix/Fuerte area. It was my annual haircut LOL. As I was walking in a guy was walking out who was looking at the ground with a grimmace on his face. I sat down in the chair and my barber, Vincent (who also owned the shop), said "do you know who that guy is?" I said, "he did look kinda familiar" and Vincent said "that's the next Charger coach." I said, "that was Coryell?" |
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Post by MarshallU on Jul 23, 2024 13:46:17 GMT -8
Gwynn
Faulk
Strasburg
Fisher
All other answers are incorrect.
You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong.
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Post by AzTex on Jul 23, 2024 14:10:03 GMT -8
Understandable. You kids have a limited view of history. (To be so young again, sigh.) Actually all of us tend to view history only by what we have experienced during our lifetime. I know there were some great Aztec players before my time, but I tend to not put them in my all time greatest list because I never saw them play and have no way to value their achievements. You had listed as one of Fisher's accomplishments as " built the program from nothing." I just wanted to point out, and add to your list, the fact that Coryell also " built the program from nothing." Just wait till you get my age and you memory of yesterday's breakfast is a little fuzzy.
Yes, that I didn't know. I did go to some Aztec games as a child but family had Chargers season tickets and my dad often worked 6 days a week as well. I know Coryell more from the Chargers than the Aztecs all though I did like Dennis Shaw since we share the same first name. A little tidbit. One day I was going to my barber at the top of Avocado Road in the Mt. Helix/Fuerte area. It was my annual haircut LOL. As I was walking in a guy was walking out who was looking at the ground with a grimmace on his face. I sat down in the chair and my barber, Vincent (who also owned the shop), said "do you know who that guy is?" I said, "he did look kinda familiar" and Vincent said "that's the next Charger coach." I said, "that was Coryell?" Lots of people don't know the history back as far as I do. That's why I like to share what I do know. Even if it repeat myself so those who didn't know can learn. Without Coryell our football program would probably gone the same way as L.A. State, UC Santa Barbara, UOP, Long Besch State and others of our peers back then. We would have ended up in the Big West with Long Beach State. Viejas (Cox) Arena would never have been built and we'd still be playing in Peterson Gym. No arena, no Fisher. No Fisher, no Final Four.
I rank Fisher a very close second to the greatest Aztec Coach, but Coryell will always win that comparison for those reasons as far as I'm concerned.
Great memory for you to have regarding Coryell.
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Post by AzTex on Jul 23, 2024 14:11:28 GMT -8
Gwynn Faulk Strasburg Fisher All other answers are incorrect. You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. If you leave Coryell out, you opinion is wrong also. |
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Post by PAC12 Aztec on Jul 23, 2024 14:15:57 GMT -8
Gwynn Faulk Strasburg Fisher All other answers are incorrect. You're entitled to your opinion, even if it's wrong. If you leave Coryell out, you opinion is wrong also. Or Kawhi or Xander now. We are now going to call it "Mount AzTex" for your stories and contributions. |
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Post by missiontrails on Jul 23, 2024 14:37:12 GMT -8
For those automatically disqualifying Butler or Kawhi because "they left SDSU early to pursue more money". Are you aware Marshall Faulk only played here 3 years and "left early to make more money"? Butler played here 4 years for chrissake! Recency bias?
In case you're wondering, I'm not holding grudges against any of the 3 mentioned above.
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Post by johneaztec on Jul 23, 2024 15:12:13 GMT -8
T Gwynn doesn't come close to cutting it if you're only talking about college performance. SDSU has had several better "college only" baseball players, including his brother Chris. Another baseball player who should get some love is Travis Lee, who won the Golden Spikes award. What, are you nuts? T. Gwynn was a fabulous college baseball player. I can't find his SDSU stats online, but I recall he hit a blistering .400+ while on the Mesa. Toss in his college hoops career, where he still holds the all-time assists record, and he's by far the best two-sport athlete in the school's history. And all that's without his pro career. Yeah, people have a tendency to forget that Gwynn was a two sport star, holding records. |
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Post by jp92grad on Jul 23, 2024 15:16:57 GMT -8
Yes, that I didn't know. I did go to some Aztec games as a child but family had Chargers season tickets and my dad often worked 6 days a week as well. I know Coryell more from the Chargers than the Aztecs all though I did like Dennis Shaw since we share the same first name. A little tidbit. One day I was going to my barber at the top of Avocado Road in the Mt. Helix/Fuerte area. It was my annual haircut LOL. As I was walking in a guy was walking out who was looking at the ground with a grimmace on his face. I sat down in the chair and my barber, Vincent (who also owned the shop), said "do you know who that guy is?" I said, "he did look kinda familiar" and Vincent said "that's the next Charger coach." I said, "that was Coryell?" Lots of people don't know the history back as far as I do. That's why I like to share what I do know. Even if it repeat myself so those who didn't know can learn. Without Coryell our football program would probably gone the same way as L.A. State, UC Santa Barbara, UOP, Long Besch State and others of our peers back then. We would have ended up in the Big West with Long Beach State. Viejas (Cox) Arena would never have been built and we'd still be playing in Peterson Gym. No arena, no Fisher. No Fisher, no Final Four.
I rank Fisher a very close second to the greatest Aztec Coach, but Coryell will always win that comparison for those reasons as far as I'm concerned.
Great memory for you to have regarding Coryell.
Everybody needs to read this above post when it comes time to talking about Coach Coryell and OUR Mt. Rushmore of SDSU athletics. The only thing that should be changed is that when people have these types of conversations is that they should START with Coach Coryell ! ! ! Go Aztecs! |
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Post by AzTex on Jul 23, 2024 15:43:53 GMT -8
If you leave Coryell out, you opinion is wrong also. Or Kawhi or Xander now. We are now going to call it "Mount AzTex" for your stories and contributions. Thank you for that honor.  |
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Post by AzTex on Jul 23, 2024 15:45:03 GMT -8
Lots of people don't know the history back as far as I do. That's why I like to share what I do know. Even if it repeat myself so those who didn't know can learn. Without Coryell our football program would probably gone the same way as L.A. State, UC Santa Barbara, UOP, Long Besch State and others of our peers back then. We would have ended up in the Big West with Long Beach State. Viejas (Cox) Arena would never have been built and we'd still be playing in Peterson Gym. No arena, no Fisher. No Fisher, no Final Four.
I rank Fisher a very close second to the greatest Aztec Coach, but Coryell will always win that comparison for those reasons as far as I'm concerned.
Great memory for you to have regarding Coryell.
Everybody needs to read this above post when it comes time to talking about Coach Coryell and OUR Mt. Rushmore of SDSU athletics. The only thing that should be changed is that when people have these types of conversations is that they should START with Coach Coryell ! ! !
Go Aztecs! |
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Post by Ambivalent_Fan on Jul 23, 2024 15:52:05 GMT -8
For those automatically disqualifying Butler or Kawhi because "they left SDSU early to pursue more money". Are you aware Marshall Faulk only played here 3 years and "left early to make more money"? Butler played here 4 years for chrissake! Recency bias? In case you're wondering, I'm not holding grudges against any of the 3 mentioned above. No one is disqualifying Kawhi since he was drafted into the NBA…and Faulk drafted into the NFL… Neither played college ball for another school after leaving the Aztecs |
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Post by aztecfred on Jul 23, 2024 17:52:30 GMT -8
Appears Strasburg only played 3 years too.
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Post by mySTRAS on Jul 23, 2024 19:51:09 GMT -8
If you leave Coryell out, you opinion is wrong also. Or Kawhi or Xander now. We are now going to call it "Mount AzTex" for your stories and contributions. Thread title has been appropriately updated! |
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Post by sdsudevil on Jul 23, 2024 20:16:45 GMT -8
There is no hate from me directed towards Butler...he is a tremendous college player who spent 4 years as an Aztec player...but... He is not an "Aztec-for-Life" since he is now a Kentucky Wildcat...he didn't get traded or cut...he quit the Aztecs to move on to get paid more...he is an "Aztec-for-a few years" and I appreciated that he was a member of the Aztecs while he was here...and I'm happy for him that he's getting more money at Kentucky. Aztecs Mt. Rushmore is, in my opinion, reserved for only for "Aztec-for-Life" players so Butler doesn't even qualify. He got his undergrad degree here, from start to finish. If he isn't an Aztec For Life, than neither am I. You are told to go to another school by any academic adviser, and realistically, he will get more eyeballs at Kentucky, which as someone looking to make the best resume you can, is what you do. You can say he isn't Mt. Rushmore, but he is an AFL unless he says he isn't. |
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(To be so young again, sigh.) Actually all of us tend to view history only by what we have experienced during our lifetime. I know there were some great Aztec players before my time, but I tend to not put them in my all time greatest list because I never saw them play and have no way to value their achievements.
