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Post by randiego on Jan 11, 2013 12:23:28 GMT -8
"We have the best fans they give us the best home court advantage around and they're a very knowledgeable fan base, they're smart," said Frank Mercogliano with UNM Athletics Communications. Smart compared to what? The general population of New Mexico? Be more precise.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 12:26:46 GMT -8
Are the same people who consider a limp wristed tap on the shoulder from a guy in a bright yellow shirt "Thuggery", the same people who think Jamaal was "Showing Off"? +1
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Jan 11, 2013 12:59:21 GMT -8
...even UNLV fans on rebelnet - who arguably have a greater right to be angry and rebelnet is hardly a beacon of rationality - aren't blaming UNM or the state of NM as a whole. They are blaming the idiot involved. The individual involved.Watch the video again. Just how many adjacent fans turned toward the jackass who pushed Ant? None. No, instead they were all too pre-occupied maddogging Ant when he took exception to that little twat laying a hand on him. That makes them complicit in my book. No, it wasn't just "individual" as you erroneosuly claim. It was all those assclowns around him that automatically saddled-up with that lil bitch who shoved him. In the end, all I can say is Ant is a better man than I am, as I would have laid his bitch-ass out. Fortunately, your AD understands concepts such as accountability and stepped in to intervene on the right side of the situation, unlike the gaggle of hobos mobbed up in that assclown's corner. And while in the 'big picture' I agree that it was a 'non-event' as some here have described, it doesn't matter in the slightest, as this is a situation for which there must be ZERO TOLERANCE.
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Post by aztecswinagain on Jan 11, 2013 13:00:00 GMT -8
These poor people live in Albuquerque, New Mexico.... We should expect some pent up aggression from them..
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 13:30:48 GMT -8
These poor people live in Albuquerque, New Mexico.... We should expect some pent up aggression from them.. And the guy is a UNLV grad. Talk about unemployable.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Jan 11, 2013 13:36:52 GMT -8
These poor people live in Albuquerque, New Mexico.... We should expect some pent up aggression from them.. And the guy is a UNLV grad. Talk about unemployable. I was reading the "traitor" thread on Mehbelnet. Mehbels were calling for his head, discussing his place of employment, and demanding a lifetime ban from our timeshare (how dare they!?!). I'm fairly certain the guy regrets his actions, but unfortunately, he should have put that shite in check before it ever happened, and now despite his regret it cannot be undone.
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Post by lobofeez on Jan 11, 2013 13:51:31 GMT -8
...even UNLV fans on rebelnet - who arguably have a greater right to be angry and rebelnet is hardly a beacon of rationality - aren't blaming UNM or the state of NM as a whole. They are blaming the idiot involved. The individual involved.Watch the video again. Just how many adjacent fans turned toward the jackass who pushed Ant? None. No, instead they were all too pre-occupied maddogging Ant when he took exception to that little twat laying a hand on him. That makes them complicit in my book. No, it wasn't just "individual" as you erroneosuly claim. It was all those assclowns around him that automatically saddled-up with that lil bitch who shoved him. In the end, all I can say is Ant is a better man than I am, as I would have laid his bitch-ass out. Fortunately, your AD understands concepts such as accountability and stepped in to intervene on the right side of the situation, unlike the gaggle of hobos mobbed up in that assclown's corner. And while in the 'big picture' I agree that it was a 'non-event' as some here have described, it doesn't matter in the slightest, as this is a situation for which there must be ZERO TOLERANCE. How many fans turned to mad dog him? What 3? The people he was sitting with. Look you don't know what they saw and neither do I but Greenwood just took one to the nuts and Marshall ends up in the crowd (nothing wrong there). As an Aztec fan says above that always leads to some jeering. I doubt if anyone except the guy pushing even saw a push on that side of things. They just saw Marshall (rightly it turns out) turn around and stare him down and reacted to that. It all happened in about 3 seconds. You are right in that there should be absolutely zero tolerance and as you say Krebs' response was appropriate.. I have no sympathy for the guy and he deserves our derision. If he never goes to the Pit again then good. But nobody was involved here except the one guy. The Pit crowd is pretty darn respectful. This is the first time anyone's seen anything like it in decades of maximum attendance and rowdy crowds. The exception to the rule not the rule. Like I said, the actions of an individual.
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Post by Section T(urn Up) on Jan 11, 2013 13:55:53 GMT -8
Obviously the guy just made a mistake. I can't believe this spun off into such a big deal. Calling it rude is more accurate than thuggery. And of course New Mexico fans were "mad dogging" Marshall, he's an opposing player. I doubt any of them even felt like what was happening was "real," as opposed to part of the entertainment on the court that we all feel safe to shout at and antagonize at our choosing.
I also think everyone should just chill on where he went to school. I mean, he was in the front row, wearing a New Mexico t shirt and shoved a UNLV player--let's not act like he was rooting for UNLV and is therefore "their problem." Lobo fans should just say he's an idiot and leave it at that. Where he went to school has nothing to do with anything.
And UNM is more easily disliked that UNLV for me. UNLV might be more of a "rivalry" in my mind, but UNM is just so sidey and with a coach that really gets under my skin. Alford's a bully with refs and is just extremely emotional and immature, which makes me really dislike him. Dave Rice just can't coach his way out of a paper bag, so I don't dislike him as much.
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Post by MarshallU on Jan 11, 2013 14:00:19 GMT -8
Didn't Chet lay hands on an opposing player a couple years back? i don't remember if he actually made contact with someone or not, but there was an "incident" and it cost him his seat for the rest of the year.
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Post by TheSanDiegan on Jan 11, 2013 14:00:26 GMT -8
How many fans turned to mad dog him? What 3? The people he was sitting with. Look you don't know what they saw and neither do I... ...and that's where I'll stop you. I aprpeciate your perspective, and you're right in that even just a couple rows up, people may have been too far removed from the incident to have seen that punkass sove Ant. But if you're claiming the fans immediately surrounding him didn't see him shove Ant, well, then you and I are simply observing two completely different things. For what it's worth though, I would think it's as likely as not the same thing would have played out the same way in just about any arena under those circumstances, and that this douchebaggery is more indicative of human nature than it is an indictment of any particular fan base. Unfortunately, this is not the first instance of documented thuggery involving UNM and an opposing athlete in recent memory, so like it or leave it, it's going to stick to you guys with a little more adherence than it otherwise would.
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Post by lobofeez on Jan 11, 2013 14:07:30 GMT -8
How many fans turned to mad dog him? What 3? The people he was sitting with. Look you don't know what they saw and neither do I... ...and that's where I'll stop you. I aprpeciate your perspective, and you're right in that even just a couple rows up, people may have been too far removed from the incident to have seen that punkass sove Ant. But if you're claiming the fans immediately surrounding him didn't see him shove Ant, well, then you and I are simply observing two completely different things. For what it's worth though, I would think it's as likely as not the same thing would have played out the same way in just about any arena under those circumstances, and that this douchebaggery is more indicative of human nature than it is an indictment of any particular fan base. Unfortunately, this is not the first instance of documented thuggery involving UNM and an opposing athlete in recent memory, so like it or leave it, it's going to stick to you guys with a little more adherence than it otherwise would. Fair enough on that except I'd maintain this didn't involve UNM, again the guy is UNLV alum. Still you are right in saying it will stick to UNM which is a real shame - one idiot not from UNM makes the whole program look stupid. Way of the world I guess
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Post by aztecswinagain on Jan 11, 2013 14:31:41 GMT -8
...and that's where I'll stop you. I aprpeciate your perspective, and you're right in that even just a couple rows up, people may have been too far removed from the incident to have seen that punkass sove Ant. But if you're claiming the fans immediately surrounding him didn't see him shove Ant, well, then you and I are simply observing two completely different things. For what it's worth though, I would think it's as likely as not the same thing would have played out the same way in just about any arena under those circumstances, and that this douchebaggery is more indicative of human nature than it is an indictment of any particular fan base. Unfortunately, this is not the first instance of documented thuggery involving UNM and an opposing athlete in recent memory, so like it or leave it, it's going to stick to you guys with a little more adherence than it otherwise would. Fair enough on that except I'd maintain this didn't involve UNM, again the guy is UNLV alum. Still you are right in saying it will stick to UNM which is a real shame - one idiot not from UNM makes the whole program look stupid. Way of the world I guess Ohhh stop it please... His diploma might say UNLV but as stated in the article and as shown in the video his loyalties were to UNM.
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Post by lobofeez on Jan 11, 2013 14:57:06 GMT -8
Fair enough on that except I'd maintain this didn't involve UNM, again the guy is UNLV alum. Still you are right in saying it will stick to UNM which is a real shame - one idiot not from UNM makes the whole program look stupid. Way of the world I guess Ohhh stop it please... His diploma might say UNLV but as stated in the article and as shown in the video his loyalties were to UNM. His loyalties are apparently to no one. If I lived in LV I might go to occasional UNLV games but wouldn't cheer for them. Besides the larger point I am trying to make is one person does not represent a larger group.
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Post by aztecswinagain on Jan 11, 2013 15:05:52 GMT -8
Ohhh stop it please... His diploma might say UNLV but as stated in the article and as shown in the video his loyalties were to UNM. His loyalties are apparently to no one. If I lived in LV I might go to occasional UNLV games but wouldn't cheer for them. Besides the larger point I am trying to make is one person does not represent a larger group. Uh no did you read the article?? His loyalties are clearly with UNM "On a Facebook post a couple of years ago Romero said he is all about UNLV, expect when they are playing the Lobos." Also all you have to do is watch the video to see where his loyalties are. And it absolutely does represent a larger group and heres why. Watching the video you don't see a single person pull him back or give him a hard time for doing that kind of garbage. Everyone around him from grown men to young women scream and yell and point at Marshall. If this happened at Viejas I can tell you right now speaking for my section if someone in our section assaulted a player or any other garbage like that we would be on his case big time.. We would not be joining in like an angry mob.
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Post by lobofeez on Jan 11, 2013 15:13:19 GMT -8
His loyalties are apparently to no one. If I lived in LV I might go to occasional UNLV games but wouldn't cheer for them. Besides the larger point I am trying to make is one person does not represent a larger group. Uh no did you read the article?? His loyalties are clearly with UNM "On a Facebook post a couple of years ago Romero said he is all about UNLV, expect when they are playing the Lobos." Also all you have to do is watch the video to see where his loyalties are. And it absolutely does represent a larger group and heres why. Watching the video you don't see a single person pull him back or give him a hard time for doing that kind of garbage. Everyone around him from grown men to young women scream and yell and point at Marshall. If this happened at Viejas I can tell you right now speaking for my section if someone in our section assaulted a player or any other garbage like that we would be on his case big time.. We would not be joining in like an angry mob. Believe that if you want. What you are saying: All UNM fans - young and old male or female - adhere to mob mentality. All SDSU fans =perfect and lovely. Give me a break. 'TheSanDiegan' said it best: "For what it's worth though, I would think it's as likely as not the same thing would have played out the same way in just about any arena under those circumstances, and that this douchebaggery is more indicative of human nature than it is an indictment of any particular fan base.."
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Post by aztecswinagain on Jan 11, 2013 15:45:40 GMT -8
Uh no did you read the article?? His loyalties are clearly with UNM "On a Facebook post a couple of years ago Romero said he is all about UNLV, expect when they are playing the Lobos." Also all you have to do is watch the video to see where his loyalties are. And it absolutely does represent a larger group and heres why. Watching the video you don't see a single person pull him back or give him a hard time for doing that kind of garbage. Everyone around him from grown men to young women scream and yell and point at Marshall. If this happened at Viejas I can tell you right now speaking for my section if someone in our section assaulted a player or any other garbage like that we would be on his case big time.. We would not be joining in like an angry mob. Believe that if you want. What you are saying: All UNM fans - young and old male or female - adhere to mob mentality. All SDSU fans =perfect and lovely. Give me a break. 'TheSanDiegan' said it best: "For what it's worth though, I would think it's as likely as not the same thing would have played out the same way in just about any arena under those circumstances, and that this douchebaggery is more indicative of human nature than it is an indictment of any particular fan base.." Not saying that at all.. There are a lot of great UNM fans... But the ALL of the ones in that video act like people who have pent up aggression from living in a place like New Mexico. enjoy!
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Post by sugarrise on Jan 11, 2013 18:38:54 GMT -8
...even UNLV fans on rebelnet - who arguably have a greater right to be angry and rebelnet is hardly a beacon of rationality - aren't blaming UNM or the state of NM as a whole. They are blaming the idiot involved. The individual involved.Watch the video again. Just how many adjacent fans turned toward the jackass who pushed Ant? None. No, instead they were all too pre-occupied maddogging Ant when he took exception to that little twat laying a hand on him. That makes them complicit in my book. No, it wasn't just "individual" as you erroneosuly claim. It was all those assclowns around him that automatically saddled-up with that lil bitch who shoved him. In the end, all I can say is Ant is a better man than I am, as I would have laid his bitch-ass out. Fortunately, your AD understands concepts such as accountability and stepped in to intervene on the right side of the situation, unlike the gaggle of hobos mobbed up in that assclown's corner. And while in the 'big picture' I agree that it was a 'non-event' as some here have described, it doesn't matter in the slightest, as this is a situation for which there must be ZERO TOLERANCE. Who is the old dbag waving the finger at Marshall? Lobo fans look like an angry village of inbreds.
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Post by standiego on Jan 11, 2013 18:50:41 GMT -8
Think all arenas should make the announcement that any fan touching a player, ref or coach , or throwing items onto the floor will be removed from the arena. Do remember a situation a the V , where a person grabbed an opposing player - almost forgot that was the Utah coach who "mistakenly" grabbed an Aztec while he was running down court. But do believe with the way some crazy fans are behaving and sometimes downing a few drinks ,things could get worse unless the conference does something .
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Post by junior on Jan 11, 2013 19:51:30 GMT -8
think there should be a warning to all fans/fanatics before all games, do not throw anything onto a sports facility or touch , a player , coach or ref , as we have seen there are too many crazy people out there . Glad it was not serious but you never know and if a player may do something in return. Stay classy it is only a game. We do have one. And right after that announcement we always look over at The Show and have a good chuckle… but they do draw the line in their section, and I've never seen anything physical.
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