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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:16:23 GMT -8
Post by sdsunewbie on Jan 10, 2013 23:16:23 GMT -8
I said after the Arizona game, he was a eventual lottery pick and the best pro prospect on our team... after watching the game last night, and seeing how he does in extended minutes... does anyone disagree with me now?
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:18:37 GMT -8
Post by 1611Luginbill on Jan 10, 2013 23:18:37 GMT -8
He still needs some time to improve his defense. Not enough ball pressure IMO. A few more pounds wouldn't hurt either.
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:20:09 GMT -8
Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 10, 2013 23:20:09 GMT -8
Yes, I disagree with you "now." He has the potential to get in the NBA, but it is way to soon to say he has more NBA potential than Jamaal or even Chase and Thames.
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:27:28 GMT -8
Post by sdpads24 on Jan 10, 2013 23:27:28 GMT -8
If you can't shoot, you won't make it in the nba. Simple as that. Doesn't matter how tall you are or what position you play.
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:27:32 GMT -8
Post by sdmotohead on Jan 10, 2013 23:27:32 GMT -8
Another Shepard thread?
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:33:12 GMT -8
Post by mySTRAS on Jan 10, 2013 23:33:12 GMT -8
Yes, I disagree with you "now." He has the potential to get in the NBA, but it is way to soon to say he has more NBA potential than Jamaal or even Chase and Thames. There's no such thing as too soon when simply talking about 'potential'. We all love Chase but he simply isn't big enough or fast/quick enough to have any chance at the NBA. You can already find Shep on lists of current 'Top 100 NBA prospects'... you just can't teach 6'8" point-forward skills. Sheps size, when properly used, creates automatic mismatches for opponents at any level of play.
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:46:00 GMT -8
Post by ctap13 on Jan 10, 2013 23:46:00 GMT -8
Size alone will get him into the NBA.
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:52:46 GMT -8
Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 10, 2013 23:52:46 GMT -8
Size alone will get him into the NBA. He can't beat Thames for the starting PG spot but is guaranteed a spot in the NBA because of his size? It doesn't work that way. He has the body and athleticism, but that is not all he will need to be a lottery pick. Basketball is arguably the hardest pro sport to make a team on, let's get real on predictions this early.
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shepard
Jan 10, 2013 23:59:58 GMT -8
Post by Lloyd on Jan 10, 2013 23:59:58 GMT -8
Let's keep in mind that he's only a freshman. Nobody is saying he is ready to step into the NBA tomorrow afternoon.
But based on the significant improvement he has shown over the past 5 games, it's a pretty safe bet that he will improve a little more in the next two years.
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Post by azzfan on Jan 11, 2013 0:11:29 GMT -8
Yes, thank you for starting a thread about you. Problem is you mislabeled it as a Shep thread.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 11, 2013 1:13:21 GMT -8
He's got to grow in his game even more than Kawhi did.
I haven't seen him attempt a single mid range shot. The only 3s he takes are wide open ones.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 1:30:41 GMT -8
Post by Simsonic on Jan 11, 2013 1:30:41 GMT -8
He's got to grow in his game even more than Kawhi did. I haven't seen him attempt a single mid range shot. The only 3s he takes are wide open ones. And take some Muscle Milk for the upper body area because he needs to thicken up.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 4:55:01 GMT -8
Post by Pasadenaztec on Jan 11, 2013 4:55:01 GMT -8
I actually thought you were joking when you said he was a lottery pick.....do you seriously think any NBA team wants a guard who can't shoot or make free throws? Wow, he had 4 pts., 7 assists and 7 rebounds against mighty Fresno St.!....yeah, the NBA teams are lining up after they saw that awe inspiring performance.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 5:46:24 GMT -8
Post by bnastyaztecs on Jan 11, 2013 5:46:24 GMT -8
When he's able to shoot...under the basket and make free throws, then he has a chance. He won't be able to do all this till his junior year.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 7:06:16 GMT -8
Post by slymer on Jan 11, 2013 7:06:16 GMT -8
X is still the best player on the team at getting to the hole.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 7:17:10 GMT -8
Post by longtimebooster on Jan 11, 2013 7:17:10 GMT -8
Size alone will get him into the NBA. He can't beat Thames for the starting PG spot but is guaranteed a spot in the NBA because of his size? It doesn't work that way. Uh, actually it does. NBA scouts don't worry about "now." They worry about the future. And what they see in the future for WSIII is that they can draft this skinny freshman in a year or two, bulk him up with about 15 to 20 lbs. of muscle, work with him on his shot and turn him into a unique talent -- a 6'7" PG with a deadly inside-out game. When the NBA called Kawhi's number, dude was shooting freaking 15% from behind the arc. That's worse than horrible. I can pick almost any random guy down at the Y and he can shoot better than 15% from behind the arc. But today, KL is one of the top 5 rookies in the league. Same's true for WSIII. He certainly won't go to the league after this season, but all bets are off after his soph. or jr. years.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 7:42:44 GMT -8
Post by uncledougy on Jan 11, 2013 7:42:44 GMT -8
Yes, I disagree with you "now." He has the potential to get in the NBA, but it is way to soon to say he has more NBA potential than Jamaal or even Chase and Thames. According to many on this board the NBA drafts on potential, fwtw.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 8:41:17 GMT -8
Post by jcljorgenson on Jan 11, 2013 8:41:17 GMT -8
He can't beat Thames for the starting PG spot but is guaranteed a spot in the NBA because of his size? It doesn't work that way. Uh, actually it does. NBA scouts don't worry about "now." They worry about the future. And what they see in the future for WSIII is that they can draft this skinny freshman in a year or two, bulk him up with about 15 to 20 lbs. of muscle, work with him on his shot and turn him into a unique talent -- a 6'7" PG with a deadly inside-out game. When the NBA called Kawhi's number, dude was shooting freaking 15% from behind the arc. That's worse than horrible. I can pick almost any random guy down at the Y and he can shoot better than 15% from behind the arc. But today, KL is one of the top 5 rookies in the league. Same's true for WSIII. He certainly won't go to the league after this season, but all bets are off after his soph. or jr. years. Kawhi is a poor example. Yes his 3FG% was not all that great, but it was 29%, not 15%. And he was the best player on a team with 3 losses the whole season. He was a double double machine. The NBA looks at you when you are already that good and have even more upside to your game. NBA managers aren't going to waste a lottery pick on someone that is currently average but has potential to be a star, that is what the D-League is for.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 8:44:37 GMT -8
Post by AztecBill on Jan 11, 2013 8:44:37 GMT -8
If he works as hard as Jamaal in the off season he could. But he has to become a good outside shooter - has everything else. Being able to hit 3s or even mid range shots consistently will open driving lanes more than they are available to him now.
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shepard
Jan 11, 2013 9:55:25 GMT -8
Post by longtimebooster on Jan 11, 2013 9:55:25 GMT -8
Kawhi is a poor example. Yes his 3FG% was not all that great, but it was 29%, not 15%. And he was the best player on a team with 3 losses the whole season. He was a double double machine. The NBA looks at you when you are already that good and have even more upside to your game. NBA managers aren't going to waste a lottery pick on someone that is currently average but has potential to be a star, that is what the D-League is for. First, Kawhi was truly awful from behind the arc. He shot 20% his freshman year. And if I recall, he was at 15% for most of the year before he sank a few and brought it up to 20%. But we quibble. Shepard isn't any worse of a shooter than Kawhi. He's probably even better and has a bigger upside, shooting-wise. Shep is shooting 25% right now from behind the arc, so the comparison to Kawhi is legit. Furthermore, if Shep begins playing 30 to 35 min. per game, he, too, will be a double-double machine. And if you recall, the majority of people on this board and around the community loudly stated that Kawhi wasn't ready for the NBA. He needed to work on his shot. He needed to stay in school. Etc., etc., etc. And that wasn't the case. The D-League isn't for guys like Kawhi and Shepard. It's for guys like Malcolm Thomas and Billy White -- tweeners who might be able to make the jump if given the chance. Not guys who already have the physical tools, but just need some seasoning.
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